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SMMW share holders and potential buyers I heard (falls over) that you make stuff up.
If not where did you get this information. PROVE your statement. If you don't then you prove mine.
My guess is you did not take the time to read his complete post.
You need to send it to Clock I am sure he wants to post it. I remember him saying he was waiting on getting it. He was sure it was bad news for share holders.
Your are correct he is incorrect. He is not paid. He is just someone who has nothing else in his life to do. Just like you. So sad!!!!
Not everyone
Falls over laughing
By: themountnman
21 May 2006, 09:29 PM EDT
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Illy
Thanks.
And as yourself and gorb and RJ and others write, there’s most definitely no shortage of ways to look at the overall situation. And I myself have already made mention of the fact that management’s exact plan re near-term pps appreciation is unfathomable at this point. With us not knowing just and exactly how for example the audit itself fits into the proceedings other than the becoming fully reporting angle that is. But one thing IS very much an absolute and that’s near-term pps appreciation. The significant and stable kind. But just and exactly what IS the plan? What’s the intended methodology exactly? Because my take in light of the BUYINS.NET approach is that management would absolutely RUN with things on the Q&A sessions and coming webcast fronts. That they’d VERY MUCH fully advantage/leverage an indeed ideal/golden and certainly self-generated opportunity and EXCITINGLY build us Q&A session by Q&A session toward the pièce de résistance. The webcast. And so and thus entirely negate the need of waiting for audit completion. For the fully reporting reality. But same is very obviously not happening as the first of our Q&A sessions WAS for the far greater part positively anemic. I mean why no positive spin? WHY no excitement? Why no much needed great and intimate detail? Why no “We’re headed for the big time!” ballyhoo? Why no P.T. Barnum routine without the excesses? So on? And so what IS the plan then? For ANY reasonable person for sure and for certain WOULD think that given again the BUYINS.NET approach the Q&A sessions would be made as earthshaking as possible simply because it adds up. Light that is a positive roaring INFERNO under market level.
Present the eagerly waiting masses an entirely feasible short squeeze scenario and start the imminent pps appreciation excitement in a VERY big way? And then get IR involved in a way that amounts to anything BUT exciting? Simply makes no sense at all. For if t’were me for example well I’d be answering those questions with every iota of info/detail available to me that didn’t breach SEC rules/regs. I’d be building the excitement something ferocious as opposed to very much undermining same by virtue of the indeed tame/lame and the rehashing and the entirely cursory and so on. The VERY MUCH failing to fully advantage/leverage an indeed tremendous/golden opportunity to build all the excitement in the world. It’s just and simply a total letdown is what it is. At least so far.
And, yes, we know that the Q&A represents nothing formal per again SEC rules/regs but that by no means equates to justifiable reason to not fully advantage/leverage same as stated. Particularly given the near-term becoming fully reporting intent. And, sure, some of the provided detail WAS uplifting and then some. Extremely telling. Including the Wachovia, GMAC Financial and Chestnut Financial, et al and approx $2m in funding/financing detail which tells us very obviously that we’re currently operationally in a position to service the relevant debt load with on the fundamental side the necessary unencumbered collateral being obviously in place. And so right there we have a major plus for sure that supports entirely things we’ve heard earlier inclusive of strong positive cash flows being in evidence and significant asset base/working capital. And of course also uplifting and very telling were the mentions of that bigger company and the associated NDA and things on the TWC/Hunter pursuit front and our 51% ownership interest in N’East, etc as discussed. But still. We shouldn’t have to pick and prod our way through whatever detail there is to find the highlights. The golden tidbits. Those details should spell themselves out in full with the happy and more message(s) being EXTREMELY plain to all immediately. And so and again WHY isn’t it happening? WHY the cursory, superficial and such approach? Tameness/lameness indeed? Rehashing? Pablum indeed? And, yes, we know that what management is up to re building a very real company the right way is no cakewalk and that they’re extremely busy and so on but that’s no worthwhile explanation at this point in the overall proceedings given the extreme importance overall of near-term significant and stable pps appreciation. We’re not just talking shareholder discontent with market level stagnation after all we’re talking about Skiershop and that bigger company acquisition and additional funding/financing on favorable terms and our BB and PriQX applications and premium-priced stock issuances and shareholder base expansion and a LOT more. The need of market level realistically reflecting and then some company true value/valuation inclusive of the effect of multiples is PARAMOUNT at this point for far more very substantial reasons than one. And so no excuses for sure. Extremely busy or no management need approach those Q&A sessions the right way and start spelling things out in again the detail that’s very much needed/called for.
It’s time to BUILD excitement and not unthinkingly tear same down following an indeed exciting start (read short squeeze talk). Time to do things right for sure. Management is WELL AWARE after all of what’s needed in the way of relevant info/detail released to shareholders/prospective shareholders in order to light the needed fire under market level. They know perfectly well what’s needed. We all know perfectly well what’s needed. And so why ISN’T it happening? Or IS next trading week it? DOES next trading week equate to liftoff with the following week putting major smiles on faces all around?
I have to tell you that I had high hopes for us on the IR front. With new IR in place that is and the Q&A and webcast(s) and so on. High hopes and then some as it just seemed that in concert with intended venue(s) advancement and the associated audit and the BUYINS.NET angle to be the beginning of what we’ve all so long awaited. And what do we get? Well let’s face it indeed. A major letdown for the far greater part is what it very much DOES amount to. As new IR at this point at least seems to be nothing more than a changing of the guard. Nothing more than a simple handoff of fiduciary duties. Duties amounting to the business-as-usual obligation to keep shareholders up-to-date/informed. And while same is certainly a big plus and in more ways than one it’s not what again I for one was hoping for. Far from it as stated. With the Q&A routine to date being very much a total wash for the far greater part. Who got excited after all? Where’s the entering/adding frenzy? Time to think is what it very much IS.
We’re applying in duality to escape pinkland and thus the audit. The associated. And we have again the BUYINS.NET angle and mention of needed pps appreciation relative to the aforementioned (read Skiershop, etc). And then add in new IR and then factor in additionally overall shareholder discontent with again market level stagnation and so on and what’ve you got? What would ANY reasonable person conclude? Well very obviously that it IS time for realistic and more tangible shareholder value as stated is what. And all additional that serious and stable pps appreciation again equates to and portends (see above). And when we DO get part one of the Q&A routine going primetime? Well as stated said conclusion gets blown to you-know-where and back. And it just and simply DOESN’T fit. Makes no sense whatsoever. We get pablum indeed instead of the industrial-strength/at-length answers/detail we DO need. And I’ll tell you true that I have a sinking feeling that this coming trading week will bring no changes. That Q&A part two and so on will be every bit as uneventful as is part one. And as for the webcast? Well here it is…
‘Shareholders and interested parties are also encouraged to send in additional questions for an upcoming audio interview with Dan Burgess and Ian Lamphere to info@smallcapvoice.com. The closed session interview will be held on 5/25/06 and a link to the audio interview will be provided, through a press release, on 5/26/06.’
And we’ve already as stated seen a fine example of the sadly anemic result of ‘shareholders and interested parties’ sending in questions. And DOES it bode well? Any of it? Look at ALL promising, does it? In terms of near-term actual tangible shareholder value that is? The serious kind? Entering/adding frenzy? We ALREADY know about our overall intent in general business plan terms. ALREADY know about the VVV push and so on. We don’t NEED a rehashing of our PR’s to date and other indeed total tameness/lameness that WILL get us absolutely nowhere at market level. But IS that what we’re going to get? In Q&A parts two and beyond? The upcoming webcast inclusive? Skirt that is the more direct/to-the-point questions and generalize re others? Rehash indeed the already known? Rehash what’s already been PR’d and so on? Avoid like that proverbial plague the indeed needed great and at-length detail where it counts the most? And IS same what we need?
We every one of us - management inclusive - know perfectly well again what it is going to light a serious fire under market level. With the BUYINS.NET angle alone being certainly a most welcome addition to same. And so why then IS management so obviously marginalizing/squandering so tremendous/golden an opportunity indeed? WHY the Q&A tameness/lameness indeed? An indeed tremendous/golden opportunity absolutely being marginalized/squandered. And so it seems we can send in all the questions we want to, as many times as we want to, with the answers to same being FAR from what’s again actually needed. And so? And so time to VERY MUCH think. To knock off the pablum/skirting routine and spell out the specifics in as great a detail as possible. As at-length as possible. For what we extremely realistically need ARE the audit details. For that is Dan and Ian to at the very least in the upcoming webcast spell out in NO UNCERTAIN TERMS what the audit will spell out when it’s complete. And whether said audit is complete or not as of this writing management for very obvious reasons have enough related info/detail currently in order to in the webcast very much do market level a world of good and then some. To indeed spark/catalyze an entering/adding frenzy of the century and again then some. Assuming of course that everything we have good reason to believe is the current fundamental and operational, etc reality really IS the reality. And if it is? As evidence would VERY stronlgy suggest (see above). Well then DO think! DO spell it all out as stated. And DON’T indeed marginalize/squander/waste an indeed tremendous/golden opportunity. All those ears intent upon listening ever so carefully and closely that is. All that ready and waiting investing/trading principle. All those itchy fingers on those buy-side triggers. And so if we want/need a significantly higher stable average trading base and the rest as discussed above? Well then DO fully advantage/leverage an indeed awesome opportunity and DO bring same to fruition. SPELL OUT indeed that which we need spelled out and DON’T simply bore us with a bland yellow brick road tale about what the years 2010 plus will bring. It’s been long enough after all and as evidenced above one WOULD certainly think that given ALL the overall intent is VERY MUCH near-term serious and stable pps appreciation and so DO knock off the Q&A pablum/tameness/lameness, etc routine and START answering those SELF-INVITED questions in ways that WILL and TO the nth degree get the pps appreciation job done. The again much desired and needed one. And the webcast the same. GET the job done the right way. The again desired/NEEDED way.
The .0001 ugliness we know was left in place from management’s perspective for as long as it was in order to facilitate insider buying but it’s again more than a little obvious that it IS time to end said ugliness and permanently so. And again the BUYINS.NET routine alone more than cements that particular reality. And so time to think indeed. To do what’s right/called for indeed.
And so come next trading week and the Q&A continuation and the webcast indeed? Well what hope HAVE we if Dan and Ian DON’T do what’s indeed very much right/called for? If they fail ENTIRELY to spell out much needed detail? Will we sit at .0001 longer than it’ll take the bunch of us to evolve beyond our physical bodies? I mean to say after all it’s ridiculous after so long. The same way TheSUBWAY engagement was ridiculous. At what point exactly DO we get serious? IS management doing what they’re doing for ALL the shareholders as Bobbie in that interview claimed? And if so? Well WHERE’S the evidence? It’s been a VERY long wait after all and we suffered through our silent period to boot which stressed the hell out of the less wise among us. And so when IS IT our turn? When DO we see an actual ROI from our collective investment? Our patience? Our support and so on? And how INDEED about those aforementioned additional reasons to end the market level ugliness seriously and permanently? Very substantial and difficult to argue with reasons.
Well Dan and Ian had BETTER start answering those questions as needed/called for and additionally make that webcast all it can be or there’s going to be one HELL of a nasty backlash. They know damn well INDEED what’s needed and if we DON’T get it it’s most definitely NOT going to look good and a lot more. They need tell us EXACTLY why the ‘no reverse’ steadfastness. Just and exactly why it is that our share structure as it currently stands IS no barrier to significant and stable pps appreciation and long-term company success otherwise. And if the answer is those long ago premium-priced issuances? The ones up to .0005? Well then we’re in big trouble, aren’t we? Because what we NEED to hear is that the primary reason relates to insider and related holdings and intended disposition(s) dynamics. To things being overall closely held and so on. To open market purchases and institutional holdings, etc. Inclusive of the detail and ALL detail. Or IS there a massive buyback planned? All of the above? And if the webcast DOES come and go with no getting into serious detail as needed WHATSOEVER? Well need I say it yet again? And if additionally no mention of the numbers on the fundamental side additionally nor relative to things operationally? Well again need I say it? Again? A complete and total waste and worse is what it’ll VERY MUCH be. And one HELL of a backlash indeed. Wait all this time and at the most opportune/golden moment(s) indeed? And after all the VVV lip service and more? We get…
“Phhhht!”
Nothing. Or as close as possible thereto? No entering/adding interest whatsoever? Or again as close as possible thereto?
We NEED an entering/adding frenzy. We NEED share structure discussion. And in spades. What after all has management been reading on these boards for months on end but whining, bit##ing, moaning and complaining and such about our share structure? I mean to say? And multiple Q&A sessions and a webcast and no worthwhile mention of that which VERY MUCH as stated needs detailed and extensive, at-length discussion FAR more than any other? And additionally? Well we need additionally overall operations discussion in spades. Give us the OTC atypical realities. YES? Or NO? Which is it? DO spell it out because it IS the only way to light again a serious fire under market level along with again share structure discussion in great detail/spades and that most definitely IS it. There IS nothing else. Strong positive cash flows? Accretive to earnings? Profitable as a unit? Well DO spell it out. The way any other sensible and rational, shareholder-considerate management would under similar circumstances. Circumstances of a truly massive and anxious, itchy-fingered (see above) audience indeed ready to listen intently indeed. So DO paint a picture. A glorious one. And cease and desist with the very much pi##ing around angle. Invite instead ALL the entering/adding we any of us could POSSIBLY ask for. USE those heads for something other than hatracks. TELL US about how many of those $20 DVD’s we’ve sold. How much advertising/marketing revenue(s) we’re seeing courtesy of agreements with entities such as New Visions, etc and all that nationwide and global syndication. And all related else including about how we’re doing on the sponsorship front. And about Stockli and whether at the very least that 9% profit target was met. TELL US about our asset base and about whether or not there’s any real estate associated with the Stockli and/or Lisker acquisitions. And what the latest Lisker fiscal period numbers look like and so on and what the future holds. Inclusive of what positive bottom line effect(s) our aligning ourselves with Charlie Webb has seen to date/will see. And include the Skiershop acquisition details and what same will bring into the fold once finalized and whether same WILL amount to wholly owned for us. And so on. DO fire up that gray matter to full tilt. The opportunity IS there. So DO fully advantage/leverage it. DO think.
It’s NOT rocket science after all. And again I know exactly how I’d handle it if t’were me on the inside. And there’s not likely any of us would do any different. And so why should Dan and Ian be any different? Why hold back? We don’t have to go the Mario/buyout hype routine but it most definitely DOES make sense and then some to paint very much as glorious indeed a picture as befits us/benefits us. To indeed and VERY MUCH fully advantage/leverage an indeed golden and more opportunity. BRING about that desired and more doubling and more of our shareholder base and the rest of it (see above). And visibility? Volume? Value? And how much visibility so far? Well all kinds of it, right? Audience more extensive than ever as stated? Crash and friends ready and waiting? Tout sites? Trading pros? Retail? Institutional? MM’s? So on? And serve up nothing but close to worthless pablum indeed?
“I will make you money!”
Well DO SO then and sideline indeed the worthless lip service. Stop talking about it and just DO it. It’s damn well time after all. And it’s not as stated just about worthwhile tangible shareholder value. It’s as stated about Skiershop and that bigger company and additional financing on favorable terms and our shareholder base and a whole host more (see above). And so DO…
Get it done!
Rocket science it most ASSUREDLY…
Ain’t!
gorb…
“crash overide if it is true you will be buying back try to buy as much of the 6 bil thats out ther before the shorts can so we can all make good money and laugh at them as they go busted”
lol
Interesting two weeks ahead for sure.
And keep those fingers crossed that Dan and the rest really ARE as smart and as shareholder considerate and so on as we think/believe they are.
Crash…
Congratulations. Job well done obviously. And hopefully I’ll be back posting soon. And at least nothing seemingly got fried and so a major plus there. And with data intact? But one hell of an outcome all the same. Industrial strength for sure. And will do. Tread carefully I will. Avoiding those banner ads for sure. And thanks for the update. And as for that PM? Well…
Message = awesome.
Truly awesome. And in fact the very reason why in an earlier post I myself referenced that $5.5m ceiling and asked rhetorically about whether same seemed to fit. Because I saw exactly what you and friends see. Summus centers and a lot more. The leasing. The rest of it. REN and so on. Geography and demographics. And what you and friends should actually consider doing is sharing generally some of those indeed very clear and more thoughts. Particularly seeing as the timing is right.
And in more ways than one.
"Frank Did It All Wrong"
And hopefully you’ll suffer no more nasty setbacks re RB’s charm. And sorry that your weekend was so spoiled. You and the rest. With the next couple of weeks looking mighty prospective in terms of making up for same. And then some. Just as long that is as Dan and the rest DO…
Fire up that gray matter to full tilt.
themountnman
Well very interesting. Welcome aboard!!! Yes you are 100% right many just lurk.
They are like termites
LOL I dislike snow to darn cold.
I am in Point Loma
good night
I WANT YOU TO KEEP POSTING
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so again how did 100% of those restricted shares hit the market in just 3 days if management wasn't intentionally misleading shareholders...
SOMEONE please explain to me how they know it was not tired shareholders unloading?
YES they do
Somebody help me get up that floored me. I would love to know what you found out.
Mountain Man has very little clue what is going on.. /// if he does or not was not my point. I read his post and take as much information from them as I can/ I do not read any posts from anyone without stopping to say what did it say. It did not say a pr this week was my point. Have a good day off to work now.
Please read this again and try to not change the meaning.
Progress being made. With very possibly a formal good word or two from the powers that be later this week."
YES he says (Progress is being made) and a pr may be later this week. You state ( this week) which is not what was said. So then many say he lied which he did not; if it come on lets say Wed next week. YOU see what I mean?
and this means what?????????
Well I guess you would know. Sorry
May I ask how you know this? How can I buy at that price?
I think the person who did not proof read the first one is costing the company money. This happens way to much. Fired for cause.
Yes I think so too/ I also think it will run, just do not know when.
I know this is a penny stock. I know many things have been said. I sit and wait for real news, like everyone else. I think it will make a small run .0004 to.0006. I know we need more information from the company.
I do not post alot but will as needed. Whats on your mind?
so do I/ but was replying to a post
rb is up and working/ you tell so many lies
This is what I got for clicking on the link LOL
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Wow thats old news but a different time frame
TIC TOC its almost time!!!!!!!!! This brings a smile to my face.
“I will make you money.”
“With what’s coming the stock will sell itself.”
No reverse. Premium-priced restricted and locked up stock massively issued at an approx .0004 average. Fundings. Being at long last and for the first time fully capitalized as needed and wanted. Skiershop acquisition closed. N’east funded as agreed. Steamboat and Aspen balls rolling. And in a big way. Long overdue filings completed and formalized. Long overdue outstanding liabilities covered in full. Brand new identity. Name and symbol. Continued M&A activity inclusive of a –- bigger -- company. And a whole lot more. And if you weren’t already a shareholder Max would you become one? Price of admission right is it Max? Best it can possibly be in fact? But not for much longer?
I did not say venting was a bad thing. I know it put a smiles on my face.
I see / thanks
What do they charge for L2
LOL but you will go in style
Ban List for Prime Rate Investors Inc. // what is this? tia
ok/ well I guess it is true you are a head case? All I did was ask a question about one of your post.
Wonders why you will not reply
Who did yo go to dinner with?