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Jorge there are some who have been following this story that believe you and Johnson by association have difficulty in reading and understanding the transcripts and judgments from the courts on the Cases you have brought on in Chile.
Is it true you are reading impaired?
Or is this another ploy in the Lopadope strategy?
I for one would welcome any direct court indication that you have some sort of rights on the Amerillos claims.
I can remember as a youth fishing with my pops, the valuable lesson learned upon the capture of a big one.
As I held it up for a picture for the ages it wiggled and dove back into the waters never to be seen again.
Unda released, Ossa released, DiFonzo released, Leon released, Brady released, all released with a wiggle!
MUNK ,LIL, EMERY all giggling!
I would like to giggle but all I have are tears........................
April 1st 2021:
Chile has brought back the death penalty by firing squad a la Pinochet.
For one event.
Thornton as well as Bristow are ordered to report to Chile's jurisdiction to be summarily executed by firing squad in the town square of Allepo.
Lagos,Bachelet and Pinera are ordered to be witnesses at this morbid event.
It is due to their complacency in these matters.
The Diaguitas community will provide refreshments!
END
The Pascua Lama Mining Project is owned by Canadian Barrick Gold and is located in the high mountain area of the Huasco Valley, Atacama Region, Chile. This project is currently suspended due to serious environmental noncompliance, but there’s an upcoming ruling that could order its reopening. Below are 14 reasons why the communities oppose this project and based on which the Chilean State cannot allow its continuation.
1. Malicious Destruction of Glaciers. Barrick attempted to destroy glaciers without informing about it and was forced to acknowledge their existence due to community pressure. It is nonetheless responsible for the destruction of at least three glaciers: Toro 1, Toro 2, and Esperanza. In 2013, the first two were at 1% of their original size and there is mounting evidence that they are covered in dust. The company has been sentenced in several occasions for the severe non-compliance of its glacier monitoring plan, one of the requirements set forth in its environmental licence, a violation that was ratified by the Environmental Superintendence.
2. Restricting the Access to the Mountain Range. The gates and signs reading No Trespassing; Private Property, set up by Barrick, prevent the communities from freely accessing the mountains. For the Valley’s ancient dwellers, the mountain range was an ally for survival and a source of firewood and medicinal herbs. The glaciers that source water are honored and considered “perpetual banks”. This restriction is also threatening the ancient tradition of animal husbandry and transhumance, since now shepherds must ask the mining company for approval or accept alternative routes along the coast to move their herds, some of which have resulted in the death of several animals.
3. River Pollution. The Valley’s pre-cordillera area is the source of several rivers, some of which have been polluted by Barrick since the beginning of its operations, but more intensively as of 2011, when it began the mine’s pit without having built a water treatment system. Since then, on several occasions the rivers have ran with acid drainage and irregular discharge of polluted waters, in addition to exceeding by large almost every heavy metal threshold. These rivers feed all of the Valley’s ecosystems and supply all its irrigation channels for crops, in addition to being the source of drinking water for the population and animals.
4. Harm to Human Health. Pollution with heavy metals meant a severe threaten to human health, particularly for children 0-4, a fact that has been ratified by the Environmental Superintendence. The presence of this company in the high mountains is a permanent risk for human health due to its incapacity of managing the forces of nature.
5. Destruction of Native Flora and Andean Wetlands. Barrick has already been penalized for the irreparable destruction of several acres of llareta moss and high Andean wetlands. These are slow-growing fragile ecosystems that provide many ecological services, both for this territory and for the entire planet.
6. Binational Mining Treaty: Promoted by Barrick, signed by president Frei in 1997 and ratified by president Lagos in 2001, this treaty allows for the exploitation of the high summits at the borderline, creating in practice a virtual country with regulations custom-made for the mining companies. With this treaty, Barrick managed to get a hold of 25% of the national territory, which corresponds to approximately 4,000 km of borderline. Today, there are more than 30 mining projects in the pipeline in the area, which threaten to destroy more glaciers and pollute additional water sources.
7. Tearing the Social Fabric. Barrick has proven to be a bad neighbor who has sowed discord and mistrust among the Valley’s community members, acting in bad faith, deceiving, and lying. With unprecedented financial resources that took advantage of small and vulnerable farming communities, it funded projects through public agencies and made direct money contributions to the neighbors, thereby undermining their dignity. Thus, it bought wills and managed to disrupt communities who had organized against the mining operation, using the tactic of divide and rule. In 2014, it signed an agreement with a handful of leaders and behind the back of the community known as the “Diaguita – Barrick Understanding Memorandum Agreement”. This agreement was announced to the media with great fanfare in order to demonstrate the feasibility of the project and the “acceptance” by the Diaguitas (Chile north’s indigenous peoples). However, the organized community along with the Diaguitas that were unwilling to compromise, managed to uncover the maneuver before the pubic. The division caused by this bad neighbor continues until today.
8. Coopting the Huasco River Surveillance Board. In 2005, Barrick signed an agreement worth US$60 millionwith only eight of the nine board members and behind the backs of the Board’s members. With this, it managed to silence this important organization of more than 2000 irrigation farmers who once eagerly opposed the project. Subsequently, it began a secretive purchase of water shares to gain control of the Board’s decision-making power (the votes of which are based on water shares).
9. Track Record of Penalties. To date, Barrick accumulates nine penalties between 2007 and 2018. In addition, it is the largest offender in the country’s history and was penalized with the highest fine on record in Chile. Even so, it keeps on non-complying. How many penalties must a company accumulate before it is clear that its operations violate our laws? We don’t want to let Barrick break their own records. The evidence shows by large that they have no intention of complying and therefore, the only solution is for them to close their operations and leave our Valley and country forever.
10. Corruption and Illegal Actions. Barrick is a member of the Council of the Americas, a US-based corporate organization that promotes free trade and which, among other actions, has acknowledged two Chilean former presidents (Lagos and Bachelet) for their loyalty to the privatizing system designed and implemented during Pinochet’s Dictatorship. Barrick’s contacts pervade all of Chile’s national life and venues, including the governments in office and the mainstream media. That is how it has managed to keep on operating in spite of lies, wrongdoings, concealment, illegalities, infractions, and penalties. Not long ago, Barrick’s Executive Director recognized in an interview to have a direct line to the current Government and a joint working agreement, disregarding every evaluation and law enforcement process applicable to the rule of law.
11. Claims by Chile’s Environmental Agency (SMA). Upon demanding the project’s shutdown, the SMA argued the need to protect the environment and the community based on a potentially severe and impending harm due to grave and persistent non-compliances of the standards, measures, and conditions set forth in the project’s environmental licence. In addition, it warned that risks could materialize should the project resume its operations.
12. Acknowledgement by Barrick Itself. If Barrick’s top-level executives have already ratified (in a leaked audio, in a public interview, and in the findings of a feasibility study corresponding to Q4 2019) that they built this project noncomplying the environmental commitments made in their Environmental Qualification Resolution (RCA) and that the project is unfeasible. What further evidence is needed? When a company openly recognizes that it cannot comply with an environmental resolution (even if insufficient and obtained wrongfully), it is unbearable to let them continue damaging our resources, particularly one of the scarcest natural assets today: water.
13. Ordering the death of a Valley. The Huasco Valley has been historically productive, fertile, and diverse. Large-mining operations have proven to be totally inconsistent with traditional livelihoods, including small-scale farming, and animal husbandry, and prevent the possibility of developing and continuing these activities, thereby becoming more a loss than a gain for the Valley.
14. Rethinking Development in the Covid-19 Crisis. This world crisis calls upon us to rethink both development and the continuation of our species. In this context, it is clear how self-sustainable isolated places are playing a crucial role in protecting ourselves against future health threats, which could unfortunately increase in severity and frequency. Therefore, it is worthwhile to safeguard territories with their own development options and not sentencing them to death by imposing upon them activities that destroy their ecosystems.
GIVEN ALL THESE REASONS, AND TO PROTECT LIFE, WATER, AND THE INTEGRITY OF OUR VALLEY, WE DEMAND THE TOTAL AND FINAL SHUTDOWN OF THE PASCUA LAMA PROJECT AND BANNING THIS DESTRUCTIVE COMPANY FROM OUR COUNTRY
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Hey there SLUGGO! Help me out here.
What is your timeline in telling all us unfortunate MWR shareholders who the REAL owners(s) of Pascua Lama is/are?
This information would surely assist us in managing our affairs as well as giving you the personal satisfaction of putting it/sticking it to us.
You have promised this for years now and still no answer.
Perhaps JL would also would also like to know as this could save all of us many legal expenses.
Waiting ......... toodaloo for now!
Kremerman did the exercise. Here goes — Chile’s 0.1 percent decide:
The interest rate you end up paying with a bank for consumer credit.
The excessive charges on electricity, water, telephone or gas bills.
The supermarket account you pay each month.
The return of your pension fund (during the first half of August 2011 the Pension Funds had lost more than $8,000 billion pesos, or $15.4 billion, equivalent to more than 6 percent of the total funds).
The value of your private health care insurance plan.
The credit card interest charged by retail stores when you have to buy clothes or any appliance.
The harsh conditions for small businesses that operate as a supplier, contractor or part of the business chain of large companies (sometimes waiting 120 days or more to receive pay).
Bus fare and plane ticket costs.
The percentage of fish available for artisanal fishermen.
The shows and news you see and hear on TV and most radio stations.
The editorial line of the biggest media companies.
The fee you pay in a private school or university.
The players that are hired by your favorite soccer team.
And, of course, the possibility of not having universal quality public education and health because they don’t want to pay more taxes (one Warren Buffett idea they failed to like).
Met a man from Chile last year in the Chocolate business that advised me he had had business personal dealings with Andronico Luksic.
Said Mr. Luksic was a brutal bully.
We will get very little from the press in Chile on the Pascua Lama story.
Mr. Luksic's band of merry minions have too much control.
They will protect Barrick to their deaths!
https://www.economist.com/the-americas/2017/02/23/why-chileans-dislike-business-leaders
There seems to be a very large piece of the puzzle missing!
MSX intends to go forward with a counter case against the BCSC.
Galati is not cheap.
Galati has a history of cases as difficult as this in going toe to toe with governmental foes.
Galati has through his efforts won an appeal to the original BCSC ruling hanging MSX for lack of evidence and wrongful press releases by Johnson.
These press releases were all ordained by Lopehandia who has been using MSX as his conduit to win his actions against Barrick Gold Corporation of Canada.
These actions have been ongoing for over 25 years!
MSX costs have been in the many millions of dollars in pursuit of justification to Lopehandia's claims, and by a contractual agreement partial owners of the Mineral Claim Mina Pascua, supposedly owned by Lopenhadia.
The need for money to pay legal actions has been a serious problem for Lopehandia and Johnson in these matters.
Keep the KOOL AID flowing with action after action has been the MODUS OPERANDI for both combatants.
WE will win after this next action mark our words we will win.
SEND MORE MONEY.
Lopehandia has had no remarkable legal wins to report on as his many actions go through the courts in CHILE.
He may now be recognized as a legal LEPPER in Chile.
The remedies seem to be unattainable.
Galati since the judgment by Judge Oosten has not resurfaced as far as I know with a court appointment to pursue the Oosten window opening.
Why?
Covid-19
unpaid legal costs
Lack of crucial evidentiary information from Chile
Ossa's denial of expertise in Chilean mining legalities is not strong enough to act as a basis of turning the BCSC rulings.
Other ???????
There is only one LAST kick at the can on this last attempt.
DO NOT MISS THE CAN
If you were to post some factual info on the lack of legal proof of claim rights by Jorge, I am sure you would get the reply you are looking for.
Perhaps even a dig by Newgold who has the inside track on all things MSX!
Our investment success in this story must be right around the corner.
RIGHT!
I do not really think Mr. Llanos cares much about this.
He is free to go about his business of scamming other mining ventures for Phyllis, Natalia, Davalos and many others.
I wonder what the court costs were?
Live free, live quickly!
The case dismissal of one Hector Mordecai Llanos must eat at the craw of one Jorge Lopehandia.
JL's arch nemesis escapes the guillotine of justice. A plan so well thought out and delivered to the courts with a pre ordained ruling. It had to be guilty!
Not so said all the judges, all charges dismissed.
After so so many tears of mining the evidence strand by strand, to be washed out of the courts with the morning rain must truly hurt.
I really feel bad for Jorge and whatever lawyer was working this case, really bad.
Bye for now!
Newgold you have not been right on anything to date.
YOU SAY Barrick has never mined one ounce from Mina Pascua so somebody else has to owns it.
Slugman knows who really owns Mina Pascua and he will tell us all as soon as Covid-19 is over with. Of course it will never be over so we will never know.
But now you are 100% right. I have no idea of what is going on.
Since you have a line on things perhaps you could enlighten those shareholders who are still holding out for a piece of the pie or in the least some crumbs from those who really know. After their investing funds they could now use in their latter years. Funds they see or saw as lost forever.
Jorge:
How is Juan Guillermo Torres doing?
Has he been appointed to the Chile most excellent SUPREME COURT?
If so do you have a replacement in mind?
Jorge your kid stopped posting using your handle!
Did he loose lap top privileges or forget the pass word?
Halting MSX is only one little insignificant stone at the bottom of this criminal pyramid.
The fall out from the OTHER PART OF THE STORY is mind numbing!
Newgold there is a whole lot of conjecture in this post unless you were on the call or personally privy to the actual presentations.
Were YOU?
Johnson is banned from providing inside information.
How soon,its been 15 years or more depending on when you figure the start?
So you have no idea what the HUGE is do you?
I have no idea of what or how a figure could be arrived at even though it is all fictional for now or forever.
Seriously,if the appeals going forward have any timeline it will/could take this action into the next several years and on and on and on.
The intent has always been to break the ability for MSX/LOPENHANDIA to carry THIS legal action forward. So far they have done a very good job.
How much more can we afford and who is contributing with what "GUARANTEES"?
I am tapped out.
movie at 11:00 .....no butter please
Just to be clear,what is huge, for you????
Newgold in life there are no guaranties. Do not ever claim that there is. It could come back and bite you severely in the backside.
My posts like JL's are peppered with pretty much quality JUNK.
They are meant to be be junk.
Skip them if they displease you I will not be offended in way.
Tonight I have date with Angeline Ossa. I have always been attracted to loose women who would sell their souls for filthy lucre.
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For Lopehandia this deal is like Russian Roulette, with every case launched the chamber he believes will eventually find one that fires real lead.
Don't be in the way when it does.
Yes there have been a lot of empty chambers, but like some here did not stand in brain line long enough during creation, these folks see things only as what is told to them.
The forest has a lot of trees. That is why it called a forest.
The big guy sometimes looks after the downtrodden and needy.
Perhaps this will be one of those times.
My expectations in these matters have gone from; there may be something here, to a much lesser degree of enthusiasm based on the capabilities of those leading this parade who play no instruments.
Newgold you and many many more of us will never see the end of this in our natural lifetimes.
I am much too old now to journey to the ALTERNATE UNIVERSE on a return trip! Too many lightyears for me!
Mark the date!
Say why don't you share your own enthusiasm with MTSTACK over at the STOCKHOUSE site. I usually enjoy her rebuttals to your facts.
Sort of even things out on a level playing field.
Do not misinterpret my posts.
We have had no real gains other than more litigation after more litigation.
The grease is too thick on the pig to get a hold of it.
I would wager that my time and financial input in these matters is significant compared to most.
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Where would the BCSC get any funds to pay out a litigation award?
From the taxpayers of British Columbia ??????
Does the BCSC carry insurance for malpractice?
If the evidence is so complete and so profound as you say with impunity, why has the appeal case not been taken to court.
As you say it seems to a SLAM DUNK!
Perhaps we have no funds to carry the torch to the liberty of justice.
Sort of like trying to blow up something with huge amounts of boom powder but no match to light the wick on the fuse !!
Doesn't there need to be a rim and basket for a slam dunk?
You are dunking in thin air!
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It would be an interesting project to foresee what the total financial implications might be as this story develops and proves "possibly" to be correct.
It must be HUGE to have so many from so many different avenues involved in suppressing it.
Any takers on a calculation.
Can't be done can it?
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Not sure where you get your 100% true unless it comes from JL!
Judge Oosten's decision indicated that there was enough information in Galati's folio to ALLOW.. ALLOW.. ALLOW for an appeal of the decision to be granted to bring further evidence to court. The judges in the BCSC hearing were chosen and scammed to render their verdict with a timeline as well as preconceived decision.
There was enough evidence to show a lack of fairness to ALLOW for the appeal to go forward..... IS THE WAY I SEE IT.
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I had some refuse to get rid of last week.
Went to the local dump with my load and funds to pay for this service.
At the gate I was greeted and turned away due to their being no capacity for my load. The area would need to be reworked to make for more room.
When asked what gives I was told a couple guys had come by with major "STUFF" to unload. They went be the names of Lopehandia and Johnson.
They asked that the "STUFF" be burnt "tout de suit"!
They were told when they unloaded to depose their load in the BS pile!
But wait.
The BCSC with their ZOLNAY RATS wanted to go through it before it was lit up.
Likely all was contaminated.
for records
https://www.mining.com/featured-article/the-rise-and-fall-of-pascua-lama/
movie at 11:00
On or about 9/11/20 MSX was given a right in a judgement to answer to an appeal on the BCSC hearing which hung us all out to dry as we watched the guilty ride away with smoking guns and a smirk on their faces.
The Honorable Madam Justice Joyce DeWitt-Van Oosten made a judgement in our favor, what the ehay are we doing with the opportunity?
anyone....anyone.....anyone.... Buehler... Buehler, yes even you Angelina a la grange tetonas!
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Let's have a look at the calendar, yeppers it is confirmed we are in the year 2021.
2020 was as declared by JL the year his legal woes would have been resolved.
Perhaps we are in the alternate universe yet again!!!!
By extension if this were true MSX may have had recourse on the trading Ban placed by the BCSC.
Johnson's problems are another matter in the many PR declarations made .
When you draw your gun and shoot it willy nilly you had better have a target or if not count your rounds.
2020 2020 2020 like RED22 has passed us by yet again.
Perhaps it may be time to revisit reality right JL?
The new Chile Constitution should have a few chapters on banning legal bribes and collusion. Right after Llama/Guanaco farming!
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I would think JL's master legal plan has been scuttled by smoky evidence.
By smoking I mean his evidence blows away like smoke.
Llanos was to be one serious nail in the heart of the matter and Phyllis made that go away. Was it because there was no evidence of criminality, I guess not even if Unda had testified in a dual position.
I have said it before I will say it again Chile wants no part in allowing this case to be proven as we have been told it has been proven by Lopehandia, period.
Too many people have been paid off to make this so. Mostly in the courts in Chile.
Torres has sent in his papers to practice child molestation and other abuses law instead of staying with this case.
It truly is impossible for ANYONE to believe that after 20 years of recreating the crime (his words not mine) that nothing upon nothing has stuck to his claims that is verifiable in Chilean legalize.
Likely the reason Galati has not been ordained to carry forth the appeals case defense. Not enough evidence forthcoming that the appeals was to be based on, is my take.
I could be wrong but that is what it is looking like folks.
Please line up for the KOOLAID. Line starts here for those believers over here folks over here! You will be saved, you will be saved, amen to all believers.
Drink deeply my friends drink deeply.........................
movie at 11:00
Should be playing Aretha tunes....
WHO' ZOOMIN' WHO? IN THE BACKGROUNG
GREED and Stupidity mixed with Influence Largess!
Anyone out there in LALA land ask yourselves this question.
If you had discretionary monies to place and knew of this story what type of collateral would you be asking for in order to lend money into this play??
I can not imagine what collateral is available?
Human remains are worthless...... RIGHT?
Hey out there in Mountain Star land, you all realize that there have been so so many side deal loans made with asset attachments that IF EVER anything does provide payment to those loaners, MSX shareholders will be so far down the ladder that down will look like up.
I would guess it may be close money wise as to side loans versus original monies payed by MWR/MSX to Lopehandia.
Lopehandia has nothing without the legal proceedings ongoing with MSX.
Not like he can start over with another "errrr" target, or could he???
Is there another opportunity out there?
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO???????
When you are shut down the options get inventive as well as circumventive.
Regardless we are all in this dumpster fire together!
One could really ask themselves what NUDEGOLD looked like as a younger person. Might tell us a lot. You can't argue being supportive.
There is little doubt that there is some mental disorders with both individuals. Do we really want to know? I say no. It would burst the bubble.
Bubble has very little air left in it at this point.
I have asked several times if we ever requested and received a qualified dome check before throwing more funds at this and I never did get an answer.
Now all MSX shareholders understand how the Vietnamese felt in the late 80's.
Living this story is much like being kept in a deep dug out cave while being carpet bombed above with Napalm. When you come the surface as things quiet down, all you are faced with drives you back down your dark hole.
PERHAPS FOREVER
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Jorge can you explain what happened to your criminal action against your very best enemy one Unda Mordaquai Sebastian Phylicia Llanos?
JL I wonder what Luksic is doing with his Washington rental since Jared and Ivanka moved out?
The new greens will have none of that Minnesota mining where the lakes are all drained to be desert in a few years.
WATER IS KING.
COPPER NOT SO MUCH
KEEP "YOUR GREEN" IN YOUR VAULTS ANDRONICO IN YOUR VAULTS.
As an aside twere I were a slug I would not hang with those mentally handicapped slugs sunny thereselves in a bath of salt on a hot sidewalk!
I would be the little slug in the shade dinning on JL bacteria decomposing from lost legal cases.
So much bacteria so much!!!
Hey Sluggo whatever happened to your pals YKR and CATCHAFLY??
I though I saw you on my last walk!
If I were Juan Guillermo Torres I would likely be looking to get some sort of life back in my existence on this planet.
Perhaps take a murder case or two for relaxation or applying to be the head legal for the People VS Chile in the upcoming Constitutional Hearings.
You would think a good legal mind would have some sort of inkling on registering cases that have little to no chance in succeeding normally, let alone in a legal jurisdiction that is tainted and bribed. That is Chile!
Might be surprising for us if he were to let us know what he really thought of all these fubar legal efforts away from the Gestapo like influence of one Jorge Lopehandia.
Where has JT gone or going????
2020 was by his own statement was the year all JL's legal woes would be resolved against CMN/Barrick.
Looking in the not too distant past ....... NOPERS JL you are still Persona non Grata in the legal wins columns!
Galati has given up trying to dry the powder you sent him.
PSSSSSS....SSSS....sst .... no boom no bang just a lot of NADDA ?????
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SO JL if we cut the crapolla and get down to the nasty bits of the entire deal what you are saying to us morons is that your position and claims are saintly and sit next to the creator himself.
The real problem for us idiots at the MWR/MSX table of dreams is that MSX management were too selfish, greedy, stupid, uneducated and poor with no funds to see this through. Just like what the Fitzgerald effort produced.
NADDA
BUT BUT BUT..... had your claims been so saintly and evidenced as you claim we would not be where we are today.
It wouldda couldda shouldda been a slam dunk as simple as flying a flag in the morning breeze.
SO SO far from reality, n'est ce pas?
YOU YOU YOU and only YOU made it so easy for the securities' legals to burry us like a bone on doggy day.
Chile want no part of any of this and will see to it that it never gets anywhere. Too embarrassing for them on so many levels.
Who is coming in after PINERA. Who's turn is it?
New constitution and all.
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No way of knowing who posts here and what the motivation.
JL is Torres pretty much fed up with loosing or just you and where did you two find this lawyer. I checked up on him as much as I could and all I could find was that he shows up as a real estate lawyer.
Must be a different guy right.
I guess there is no real need to be anywhere near a court house to hear that another case has been dispatched to the poop bin!
"Yesterday, JT requested and the Court approved the delegation of power of attorney to Mr. Manuel Ignacio Pena Varela, to represent JL at the dismissal hearing on Thursday, February 25. in the criminal trial against HUL. O 10451-2020." from stockhouse Barrick's plant.