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Today will go with.......1000 national guard deployed in NYC by a dem gov and its crickets by the left,,ok, thats fine.....However had the right deployed 1000 guardsmen in a city, you know darn well it would garner 24/7 coverage
In the same way,,,,,,If roles were reversed with Mace, I could easily see the left screaming about rape victims for days
The parties are like greased lawyers, they make the argument of the side they're on, be it about the national guard or rape, its a constant not the exception...........They deserve each other now...
Poor Hur,,,,The look on his face is a great FU to both parties....
Biden could have gained some confidence by replacing Harris, considering the age issue and all,,,,
Im sure he was afraid to upset the progressives,
Remember how 70% didn't want 'him' to run....
Well they are stuck with that so then there is Harris
No reporting on left media, but print and right media reported her well
Wait for the end, it shows the real clip
Not me, the reality in our nation...Dems constantly dismiss and worse 70m voters and their families and that doesn't help...
Or they actually read it.....No Republican will win on 5000 a day....Then you had the vote just 3 days after it was released as is the new political way of things...
Its seen as a stunt with a poison pill, and its hard not to see it that way after Biden and dems 3yr record on it.....Also there is what he could do without it and doesn't...... Back to Lankford today
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Gotta remember Dems are not to happy about the border now either.....NYC etc...
Ah you guys will love the polls if and when they switch........Trump is bound to run his mouth too much and Biden will be kept to very well choreographed outings....
Trouble is, One big mistake out of Biden is a real danger now...
Yep, and damned if he isn't the front runner of all things,,,Why do you think that is?
No authorization, not legal...But no 'recourse' until the thresholds hare met....so the status Quo remains untill
But the bill does not, in fact, authorize immigrants to cross the border illegally. Instead, among other provisions, it would give officials the authority to summarily remove migrants, with little recourse, after a certain number cross: an average of 5,000 encounters per day for a week, or 8,500 in a single day.
Hang your hat on the word legal if you wish,,, Once upon a time you wouldn't let word play keep you from the facts...times change eh...
I'd stick with the Britt gal,,,Issues aren't dems forte now
Dems once stuck to data now its rhetoric in lieu of
Maybe that's how we got in this mess....
'Special election' Dems ignore polls at their risk
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Full article posted...... Here is the link
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4518985-democrats-see-polls-as-overestimating-trumps-strength/amp/
To dems 2022 argument.....It ain't 2022
Voters also voted to protect abortion rights in red states like Kansas and Ohio, and Democrats won special elections in the Pennsylvania state house and most recently in New York’s 3rd Congressional District, where Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-N.Y.), outperformed polls by roughly 4 percentage points.
“To me, the most significant electoral data out there is we keep winning elections,” Rosenberg said.
“It’s important to not rely on polls but to match it with what people are doing when they actually vote. When people go vote, Trump is underperforming public polling,” he added.
The flaw in that argument is Trump was not on the ballot in 2022.
And when Trump has been on the ballot, he’s tended to perform better than polls predict.
Screw the NYT? Here, after SOTU...ABC News/Ipsos
Seems things have settled out,,,,After abortion and climate change Biden is 60+% down on all the important issues..
State of the Union: Biden somewhat exceeded expectations, but approval
https://www.ipsos.com/en-us/state-union-biden-somewhat-exceeded-expectations-approval-ratings-unchanged
33% trust Biden to do a better job......over all
I had the numbers before it came out via CBS, I try to stay informed before I comment....
Coulda been a good bill, HR2 also....But legalizing 5000 a day?
Search CBS or 4000 and 5000, its there if you care to find it
You didn't read the bill...OK.......Now play it all off like its 100 yrs ago, its not, and its a problem dems are now far underwater about.......
Maybe a 5000 a day threshold had something to do with it too...
Shall we split the 5000 among NYC, Chicago, DC, Denver and San Fran
Its only a thousand a day
Women 47% to 46%..New York Times/Siena College poll
In the Times/Siena poll, Trump led Biden among women by a 47% to 46% margin among likely voters. Meanwhile, men backed Trump over Biden 49% to 42%.
The poll also showed Biden ahead among suburban voters, a key group that will play a significant role in races up and down the ballot.
Among this group, Biden led Trump 47% to 44% among likely voters.
Seems the suburbs and women may be effected by the economy and consider other things too.....Not just one trick ponies as dems seem to take them for granted for....
Times-Siena
https://www.businessinsider.com/poll-biden-trump-women-suburban-voters-economy-inflation-2024-3
You obviously didn't read all the fact checking eh.....Two parties always trying to mislead the US,,,
As said before, one lies, one spins,,,but many consider spin a lie too......
Lankford and dem border misinformation...
You remember him I'm sure....
Dem smugness on immigration has come back to haunt....Deservedly so,,
Now you have to call better than 60% of the country bigots :)
And sanctuary cities ? They aren't being smug about it anymore are they.....
Everyone knows Who's winning and losing Monopoly
Only 2 sides of the board still left playing.......So good analogy, people are 'reminded' of it day in and day out
Monopoly :)
Yeah manners have gone to hell in a hand basket haven't they, and no adults in the room to say, Children! Progressives have of a way of calling out the least of words as offensive, but they are the biggest offenders of all.......
Yep ,from speech to race, religion, politics and on to offensiveness, progressives now define hypocrisy....
So, "Just so you know we see it clearly" ;)
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looking a bit silly now aren't ya....
So Sorry, used you to make a point about progressives.........
Christian fundamentalists deserve mockery,...So to Muslims, Jews or Hindus? Another double standard progressives have,,,,,Well blatantly hypocritical
Enjoy the show everybody....
Think I'm surprised, even a little bit,,I'd expect nothing less, but always hope for much much more out of such a useful tool...
Doesn't bode well for us does it
Enjoy SNL bet you will get your skit ;) Fingers crossed
So do progressives, lol,,,,,SNL soon!
The populace isn't the least bit interested, but those interested in shaming her aren't interested in them....a world that's finally lost its last ounce of integrity....
Remember this,,,,,,,,
Still worried about KitchenGate eh..... Time for that person--or persons--to step up to the plate.
Maybe a witness will come forward
Hmmm, And the fact checking on Biden was as bad as what's her name rebuttal speech.....
Glad you agree on the article....And you got my reminder about Kennedy......
Didn't say Mockery keeps racism alive...Progressives do, MSNBC, need I say more....
Yeah manners have gone to hell in a hand basket haven't they, and no adults in the room to say, Children! Progressives have of a way of calling out the least of words as offensive, but they are the biggest offenders of all.......
The writing was to how progressives handled and made history in the past dealing with nearly the exact same issues we are today.......
The writer had a point about blowing it, they didn't back then, they did this time around.......
Good SOTU poll.....Rich! you all quoting a poll after all the chit you all have said about them, but I expect no less from this group,,,,,,,,,,Difference is, I listen to the polls and dems haven't only dismissed them and in doing so dismissing the people...... Thats a good poll, means people liked his performance as with most STOU polls....
Things will settle in a week or so as they always do and we'll get another read.........But Biden squandered his last opportunity to make any attempt at unity in this country, like he squandered the last 3 yrs........ I call him Buck, short for Buchanan...
This one 1 is a yr old but to my point,,,,,we will see from here,,,,,,wonder what the same polling would say today
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Biden’s impact on the tone of political debate in the U.S.
Today, 39% of Americans say Biden has changed the tone of national political debate for the worse since taking office, while 20% say he has changed it for the better and 40% say he has not changed it much either way.
About half of Americans (53%) say “stands up for what he believes in” describes Biden very or fairly well, while only about half as many (27%) say “inspiring” describes him similarly. These views are largely unchanged since last August.
About two-thirds of Americans say they are not too or not at all confident in Biden to make wise decisions about immigration policy (65%) or to deal effectively with China (65%). Nearly as many express low levels of confidence in him to work effectively with Congress (62%), to make good decisions about economic policy (61%) or to handle an international crisis (60%).
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2023/04/07/assessments-of-biden-and-his-administration/
So the plan is to beat populism with more of the same? Thats a bad plan historically....
So of neither party does anything meaningful that makes it ok? Why are dems so underwater on all the major issues voter are concerned about,,, You lead on one, abortion.....Do you think people will see election hyperbole as your willingness to actually fix anything with the approval the Last three years you have earned?
edit: That's when historically people change the presidency in elections
No, but rwnuts would be a yes........Nice to see some people that see through both
They weren't reforms at all... It was just an expansion of dem policies that weren't to the issues, just payouts from the government that weren't even paid for and lied about constantly by dems on tv.....They would adjust sunset provisions instead of prioritizing.....
Nowhere were they taking on the corps and financial institutions in any meaningful manor
The filibuster?.....No party is worthy of having complete control without some bipartisan support....
People are sick of woke and the tide is turning since you have gone to ridiculous extremes.......Even your KitchenGate shows its hard to take you seriously.......Much rather solve complex problems
Democrats see polls as overestimating Trump’s strength
https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4518985-democrats-see-polls-as-overestimating-trumps-strength/amp/
Former President Trump led President Biden in a recent national New York Times/Siena College poll by 5 percentage points, prompting a campaign spokesperson for the Democrat to argue polling “consistently overestimates Donald Trump while underestimating Joe Biden.”
The remark is emblematic of a deeper skepticism of Trump’s strength in certain Democratic circles.
Biden allies point to primary results this cycle that show Trump underperforming his polling numbers and failing to capture moderate voters, as well as nonpresidential cycles under Biden where Democrats outperformed projections.
“We’ve got a long way to go. We’ve got a lot of work to do. But I think everyone in this town … is overestimating their strengths and underestimating ours,” said Democratic strategist Simon Rosenberg.
Some Democrats were quick to dismiss The New York Times poll in particular.
Strategists were puzzled at the poll’s finding that women were equally split between Trump and Biden at 46 percent each, given exit polls in 2020 found Biden won women by 15 percentage points.
Democrats also questioned the poll’s findings that Trump was leading Biden by 6 points among Latino voters because Biden won that group by 33 percentage points in 2020, according to exit polls. Multiple Democratic strategists and pollsters noted 97 percent of interviews with Latinos surveyed for the poll were conducted in English.
Even Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.), who ended his long-shot primary bid against Biden on Wednesday, was skeptical of the poll’s findings.
“When the NYT/Sienna poll shows me at 12%, you better believe it is flawed,” he wrote on X, formerly known as Twitter. “Only 5% even know who I am.”
The Biden campaign’s belief that Trump is overestimated by polls is largely driven by the fact that voter behavior has not matched projections, including during this year’s primary elections.
Even as Trump has coasted toward the GOP nomination, winning all but two primary contests by huge margins, he has fallen short of what polls projected and has struggled with the voters who will likely play an outsized role in November.
Decision Desk HQ polling averages showed Trump projected to win the Michigan primary by 49 percentage points, and he ultimately defeated Nikki Haley by 42 percentage points. In South Carolina, he was projected to win by 29 points and ultimately carried the state by 20 points over Haley. In New Hampshire, Trump was projected to win by 14 points, according to Decision Desk, and won the primary by 11 points.
At the same time, Trump has hit his numbers in some races, including in Virginia — where polling averages showed him ahead by 25 percent, and he won by 27 percent.
Amy Walter of the nonpartisan Cook Political Report wrote Trump is entering the general election campaign “in strongest shape ever.”
Election Day is still roughly eight months away, but polling has shown Trump leading Biden in a likely rematch of the 2020 race.
The Decision Desk HQ average of national polls shows Trump ahead of Biden by roughly 2 percentage points, a potential warning sign for Democrats given Trump lost the popular vote even when he won the Electoral College vote in 2016.
The swing state data isn’t much better for Biden, according to Decision Desk HQ data.
Tags: Arizona, Donald Trump, Georgia, Hillary Clinton, Joe Biden, Michigan, Pennsylvania leads Biden in Georgia by an average of 7 percentage points, in Arizona by 5 percentage points, in Pennsylvania by an average of 4 percentage points and in Michigan and Wisconsin by an average of 3 percentage points.
Biden won each of those states in 2020, and with particularly narrow margins in Arizona, Wisconsin and Georgia.
“No, President Biden, the polls are accurate. Americans just don’t like you for destroying our economy and our borders,” said Jason Miller, a senior Trump campaign adviser.
There are signs Biden may be underestimated, though. While thousands of Democratic primary voters cast ballots for “uncommitted” in protest of Biden’s handling of the Israel-Hamas war, pollsters said many of those voters are likely to rally to the president’s side once the general election arrives.
“It is clear that there is some protest vote amongst regular Democratic voters in the primaries, and since polls are a snapshot in time this is what they are capturing,” said Scott Tranter, director of data science for Decision Desk HQ. “But historical vote patterns tell us staunch partisans usually come home, and as such I expect Biden to get back many of those voters.”
Rosenberg, the Democratic strategist, argued perhaps the strongest evidence that the polls are wrong about Trump is the reality that Democrats continue to win elections, particularly in the aftermath of the 2022 Supreme Court decision ending Roe v. Wade.
Without Trump on the ballot in 2022, Democrats defied expectations of a “red wave” sweeping Republicans into power in Congress. Democrats added a seat to their Senate majority, while Republicans captured a four-seat majority in the House, a smaller margin than expected.
Polls in Washington’s Senate race between Sen. Patty Murray (D-Wash.) and GOP candidate Tiffany Smiley showed a close race in the closing weeks, but Murray won by roughly 15 percentage points.
In 2023, Democrats retained control of the governor’s mansion in deep-red Kentucky and won a key Wisconsin Supreme Court race thanks in large part to abortion messaging.
Voters also voted to protect abortion rights in red states like Kansas and Ohio, and Democrats won special elections in the Pennsylvania state house and most recently in New York’s 3rd Congressional District, where Rep. Tom Suozzi (D-N.Y.), outperformed polls by roughly 4 percentage points.
“To me, the most significant electoral data out there is we keep winning elections,” Rosenberg said.
“It’s important to not rely on polls but to match it with what people are doing when they actually vote. When people go vote, Trump is underperforming public polling,” he added.
The flaw in that argument is Trump was not on the ballot in 2022.
And when Trump has been on the ballot, he’s tended to perform better than polls predict.
Polling in the 2016 presidential race missed significantly, leading to a surprise Trump victory even as he lost the popular vote.
A final RealClearPolitics average of polls in Michigan projected then-Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton would carry the state by 3.6 percentage points. Trump won the state by 0.3 percent, or less than 11,000 votes.
The RealClearPolitics polling average had Clinton ahead of Trump by 6.5 percentage points in Wisconsin, where Trump won by 0.7 percent.
And in Pennsylvania, Clinton was projected to win by 2.1 percent, according to polling averages, and Trump carried the state by 0.7 percent.
Polling in the 2020 election was much closer to the final result, but even in some cases, Trump overperformed expectations on Election Day.
The final RealClearPolitics average in Georgia had Trump ahead in the state by 1 percentage point, but Biden won the state by 0.3 percent, or about 12,000 votes.
Elsewhere, though, Trump fared better than polling predicted, even in defeat.
The RealClearPolitics average had Trump down 6.7 percentage points in Wisconsin, a state he lost by 0.7 percent. In Michigan, polling averages showed Biden ahead by 4.2 percentage points before Election Day, and he won the state by 2.8 percent.
Trump, who has long quipped to supporters that he only likes polls if they show him ahead, is sure to tout surveys in the 2024 race as long as they are favorable to him. But both sides ultimately expect a close race in November, regardless of what polls show in March.
“National polling, eight months out, confirms what we know to be true: this will be a very close general election contest like all modern presidential elections are — but, we have a clear path to victory,” the Biden campaign wrote in Wednesday’s memo.
Depends what your active about doesn't it.....Most most of the issues back then are the same issues we are once again experiencing...........
Turn MSNBC on see if they are reporting broader issues the effect everyone or is it a narrow field of view based on us v them..........Do the same with fox, you will get the same result
Problem being, no one will tell their followers to shut up and lets start doing what's best for the country.....One thing I note which is counter intuitive,,,, fox will at least report the economy as the majority of the population sees it (only for political purposes mind you, not to solve anything) while the left leaning media reports the economy from the upper 40% of the population view and claim everything is fine just look at this data....Not the effect that data has now created..
If I was to highlight it would be the last sentence...
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CNN
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The public’s long-held pessimism about the economy shows signs of easing since last year, a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS finds. But even with the uptick, many Americans’ views of the economy – and the nation as a whole – remain bleak.
Only 35% of Americans say that things in the country today are going well, but that’s an improvement from the 28% who felt positively about the state of affairs last fall. And while just 26% of Americans say they feel the economy is starting to recover from the problems it faced in the past few years, that’s also up from 20% last summer and 17% in December 2022.
Overall, 26% of Americans currently say that economic conditions have stabilized, and 48% say they believe the economy remains in a downturn. Yet, the US economy has been growing strongly since 2020, and the jobs report released Friday showed a stunning gain of 353,000 jobs last month, a stronger-than expected kickoff for 2024.
Of those who think the economy is recovering, nearly three-quarters (73%) say President Joe Biden’s economic policies have helped to improve things. An even broader 83% of those who say the economy is continuing to devolve say his policies have instead made things worse.
Views of the nation’s economic trajectory are inflected by partisanship, with the uptick in sentiment coming mainly among Democrats (49% now say the economy is recovering, up 10 percentage points from July) and independents (24%, up 7 points). Just 6% of Republicans say they see a recovery beginning, nearly unchanged from last summer.
But within the Democratic Party, there’s also a significant age divide, with most younger Democrats less likely to see the economy on the upswing. About one-third of Democrats younger than 45 (35%) say that the economy is starting to recover, compared with 63% of those 45 and older. And more broadly, a narrow majority of Democratic adults younger than 45 (54%) say that things in the country are going badly, a view shared by only about one-quarter of their older counterparts (22%).
Recent Commerce Department numbers show the US economy remaining robust, CNN reported in January, with the first jobs report for 2024 expected to look strong.
When Americans who say the economy remains in a downturn were asked to explain why they feel that way, most cite inflation and the cost of living generally (50%) or the price of specific items like food (9%) or housing (7%), with many pointing to their own financial situations. Another 13% who feel the economy is still in decline cite Biden or Democratic policies, and 9% name wages and income. Fewer mention jobs, gas prices or the stock market.
“Everything that matters in life is continuing to get more expensive, regardless of what the inflation index says,” wrote one Republican from Georgia who responded to the poll.
“Everything is still expensive and many people are struggling with that,” said a Republican-leaning independent from Louisiana. “Consumer debt is way up. Wall Street is doing well but that doesn’t help the average worker.”
https://www.cnn.com/2024/02/02/politics/cnn-poll-economy/index.html
Kitchen Gate? Progressives have been ridiculous this past decade or so....Not the progs of the civil rights movements nor of the past....
No, prog leaders fail their followers by leading them down paths that are removed from common sense and the historic times that are now repeating....
So enjoy your mockery, when mockery and bad jokes have been nearly a whole focus of modern dems, keeping alive racism as if the country hasn't made progress beyond our wildest dreams in comparison to the past....Keep digging for the next ridiculous issue to advocate for instead of the broad realistic problems that effect society.... Make things worse with the modern divide which has grown dangerous beyond comprehension for America instead of better...
Continue to distract from the fact your taking an easy way out when the hard necessary path is left untraveled......May remember Kennedy in his Moon speech, "We do these things because they are hard" and that's how America became great......
I posted this in it's entirety but I wanted you to personally receive the Title and link as you lead folks who willingly follow, but you take them in a downward direction instead of up....
Progressives Should Read Progressive History—So They Don’t Blow It This Time
The original progressive reform movement was flexible and broad. That’s why it worked.
By JOSHUA ZEITZ June 01, 2019
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2019/06/01/progressives-history-227037/