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Interesting. More channels is always better. Grass-roots ground swelling. If this works, in a year we may have to fight hostile take-over attempts! I am looking forward to it!
Good luck to all.
Have a BTGD (Bionic Tonic Green Day)
No I have not. Believe it or not I cant read!
Not crap sort of. I never read one school assignment from grade school through my last days of college. I just skim stuff. Maybe I need ADD drugs.
From time to time I have been able to read a few novels, but they have to work for me somehow. With your alias, I wonder if you have ever read Hominids, 'The Neanderthal Parallax' by Robert Sawyer. Also his book 'Calculating God'.
A book I read that I think any person taking the oath of office of president or congress should have as required reading is that of Col. David Hackworth, Steel, My Soldier's Hearts'
I wish I could read well. It takes me a long long long long long time to read a book. So long there are only a very limited quantity I have ever finished.
I write a lot...hi hi... I would like to write a book.
I yak a lot, around town and on international radio.
Bionic tonic is helping to keep me going. Or should I say it was.......I need more....
I have been studying the composition. While I dont think they add caffiene, I think there is some in there. I would place a $100 bet there is caffiene in there unless they actually went through a process to remove it from some of the extracts they use. But it is not loaded with it for sure.
While a lot of the other energy drinks have some similar compounds, the more I research them and Bionic Tonic's, the more I agree with the verbage 'Superior Formula'.
So, is lady pink out or not. I want my lady pink! I need more bionic tonic. I wish I did not have to pay more for shipping than for the product. Oh well..............
And absolute master of NONE - Especially investing. I have a good track record of calling longer term macro trends, but have only lost overall in the markets and most everthing else related to monetary value.
I too am a patient man, yet I can see my grave approaching. A guy at UBS PaineWebber once told me that I was the most patient investor he has ever seen. That in the long run, it would pay off for me. Lets see if the 92nd time is a charm!
Good luck up there in NY, pretty country indeed!
I not only want distribution in our area, but commericals too. Lots of them, paid for by revenuest too!
Far from the boarder aye! Are you near the Northern boarder, perhaps in one of the last hold-outs for Hine's Emerald dragonfly?
I hear you can attract them with a by spraying bionic tonic on local weeds up in northern Michigan.................
I hope it is Floresent Pink! Buy the way, does anyone know when Bionic Tonic will be available in Kegs! hi hi.....
Too bad they can't put a hint of a waist line in the lady pink can!
U mean a Good Bartender
I am a mixologist of a different sort. I study, liquid-liquid, liquid-solid, solid-solid, liquid-gas and gas-gas mixing and blending technology.
I can really whip it up, so to speak!
Actually the goal is often not to whip it up, but achieve the highest degree of uniformity in the shortest distance and/or time at the least power consumption. But that is for another day!
I know they did good early DD on formulations and markets, but if they want some formulation ideas to throw in the idea tumbler, lets us know.
For a kids drink, it would be WILD if they could make something that 'Glowed in the Dark', or at least maybe a near clear plastic container that would!
Quantum Foam Makes Me Roam!
The Bar is Open!
Give me a B&B, Bourbon and Bionic!
How about a Ta-kill-ya with Bionic Tonic for a Bionic Rita!
Or a Bionic Boris (Vodka & Bionic Tonic)
Or a Natasha (Vodka & Lady Pink)
Or a Greeny Meany (Bionic Tonic & Grain Alcohol)
Or a Bionic Jacktonic (Jack Daniel's and Bionic Tonic)
Or a My Tai Lady (Lady Pink & Rum)
Come to Ohio where the motto is; 'when the going gets though, the tough go drinking'
I don't think these guys have any idea what they have unleashed!
And have a Gin & Bionic Tonic on the Rocks while you wait. If it takes awhile, so be it.
Long term, I think the company can support a 1.5B share quantity. But I certainly would not want to see it go higher. If this company can keep getting new product placement to the point where it has national recognition and consumer following, it could end up being a $2B capitalization, or bought out for something around there. Some mention higher, but I am trying to stay within a more realistic range. If a major did do a buy out in a year say, after good product expansion from here, maybe a 200 million buyout price could be realistic. That is 0.13/share.
If they simply keep growing at a modest pace and exceed their production/sales goals year over year, I could see a 45 million capitatization being hit in a year or so, that would be 0.03/share.
While it could spike above, I think 0.01/share within 12 months for a 15M capitalization is much more realistic. That is still a much better return that most of anything else likely in the next 12 months. It may also be a value (assuming growth) that is highly sustainable, not just a temporary spike on speculative volume. If that was to occur, then a 1000/1 reverse split would not be bad if it got us on the Nasdaq or something at $10/share with only 1.5M shares. That would be a sweet position with a low number of authorized shares.
I still think that not having any financial data is a drag on the stock, but that a pseudo P/S or price to product price ratio can be computed by taking the current company capitalization and dividing it into the retail price of 1 can. At a $1.99 retail price, that says 1 can of Bionic tonic is currently worth the equivalant of 0.0001% of the company. i.e. - the company is currently selling for the price of 1 million cans on the shelf! Intuitively, that seems cheap to me.
That is a paradox of sorts I am having, every time I go to order more Bionic Tonic, my common sense tells me it is better for me to use the same small amount of capital and just buy more stock with it. The stock has a better potential to hang around and go up. But the Bionic Tonic, it does not seem to last to long. I am filling my office up with empty cans though. It is my way of going Green I guess. GO GREEN WITH BIONIC TONIC! It is pure GREEN energy!
Yet, everyone should know that many years ago, I lost my encephalon. It got up and walked away one day, an I have been in search of it ever since. Someday, I may see it, but I doubt I will recognize it. So I am calculating all this with the use of an encephalic cavity only. Therefore all is IMTDAO!
The best thing for BNPD in the long run is to not focus too much on the short run, but to methodically move the company finanicially forward with each step on a slightly better finanical foundation and revenue than the last.
That also includes no more share dilution.
The next best PR will be any commerical that gets aired and the production run of Lady Pink hitting the streets - IMTDAO
That would be interesting, if not for the party at least!
This old liver is not quite what it used to be though. So some of the young in the area have had to take the reigns from me over the years.
Indeed, if you ever are coming to town, we should make the attempt.
Why not?
As mentioned in some of my earlier posts, there is at least the appearance of a nicely stage-gated product development and deployment here.
There also seems to be a ground swelling of sorts with some of those involved on the board. Certainly there can be a pecuniary interest through stock ownership, but there is also sense of enthusiasm with the product.
I found the viral marketing comment interesting. I wonder if the company should take better advantage of this through a stockholder volunteer program. Maybe a company assisted method for those of us that might have knowledge of local establishments or events, or whatever, to further expose the product to the public could be a grass roots way to make something phenomenal happen.
I believe a minimum shipment quantity for most products is one pallet.
If the company could give us a good deal on the delivery of a pallet, maybe one that was ½ Bionic Tonic and ½ Lady Pink, it might help us spearhead its introduction or provide valuable data.
What about a stockholders meeting where we might have the chance to help with ideas and/or possible networking of distribution routes. I have not been to vegas in a while, but our neck of Ohio, is party capital of the world, hi hi ...
I understand why there would be apprehension from management. It could be a diversion to a plan that may indeed be coming together by its own right. An uncontrolled expansion might leave some markets more lost. It is possible a product just stuck on some shelves in a town could thwart better future laid plans. However, I guess what I am saying is if there is anything management thinks some of us can do to help with the introduction of this product, please let us know.
Put me down for an extra large, maybe an XX large as I hope to gain some here with Bionic Tonic!
Good luck to all, interesting day as usual these days.
Need my Lady Pink.
Quantum Bionic
Warp 10 Bionic
Take a trip to the Nexus and back with Bionic Tonic!
90% of all my tasts tests are a resounding positive!
I agree. A effectiveness test done in a controlled study could be done that way. I am doing the personal tests too and/or with a group I already have results for. So we all are now familiar with the great taste of Bionic Tonic. My group is tainted from a taste awareness side.
This is fun, even if non-scientific.
I was thinking of check my heart rate and blood pressure every 15min for 2 hours after drinking 1 can of bionic tonic, as well as record mood while trying to sit still for 2 the 2 hour period.
Then repeat the procedure the next day at same time and percieved comfort level at the start, but after I take 1.0mg Alprazolam 15 min prior.
I am sure there are some standardized reflex and awareness tests out there we could research and try to some degree.
I can tell you one thing for sure, after drinking it I have never had the jitters or anything and I have never felt wore out or tired. And I am somewhat of a lazy butt. I typically feel more like sitting around, than I have after drinking 1 can of this for about 2 weeks.
I have been trying to quantify such and effect but having difficulties. Ideally I would like a placebo group, but how do you obtain a placebo group with Bionic Tonic. If I tried, people would know rigth away. How could I possibly duplicate the great taste of Bionic Tonic!
Looks interesting, but hard to say. It would take a while to review. Not sure I will have time. A company I think may have something very good for the world is NNVC.OB, Now trading as NNVCE.OB as they are late on a filing. They are a group of Dr/Scientists that have developed some very novel nanodeployment menthods for anti virals and other things like rabies. The CDC is so impressed with their rabiecide that I think they are in collaborative studies at the moment. Their effectiveness against HIV, and H5NI bird flue and Dengue fever is looking quite remarkable.
Agree, have to watch discussing other stocks here, SO, GO BIONIC TONIC....I love the looks of that BIKE!
Absolutely. Not the recent guy, but quite awhile back, someone on Yahoo posted this was a scam, that there was not promotion, there were no cans of anything, just prs. I was going to do it anyway, but when I saw that, I called and ordered the cans. They arrived right on time. Then I started my own taste tests. For those new here who have not seen some of the results of my TOTALLY independent taste tests, see my post 7908.
There is no absolute guarantee this company will succeed in the long run. But this is not a scam! That alone sets it apart from a lot of others!
Best of luck to all.
It is actually a piece of brain corral. I told people then it was my exo-encephalon.
I was burning a lot of stock certificates that day, that one was caught on film.
Keep up the good work on your end. I hope things payoff for you someday in your life. You have one of the lowest paid, most difficult jobs. Know that our country loves you, even those who the others say don't.
Have you ever read any of Col. David Hackworth's books?
He was a true defender of our troops. He has a book; Steal, My Soldier's Hearts" I do not thing anyone should be allowed to take the oath of office in congress or for president until they have read that book!
They also need to appreciate some of the translations of Sun Tu.
Few people know that we lost 8000 troops from Gulf War 1 due to DU weapons poisoning.
Oh, I posted an ignore the dude post on yahoo a moment ago.
Have a great day!
I live in the big Wad. Maybe I will meet you there for an Arrogant Bastard and Boinic Tonic Someday!
Bionic Tonic is a BLAST! I have not had this much fun with a stock in 30 years of investing. Whether it ultimately goes to the moon or not, I am having a blast.
I also love a lot of microbrews....Arrogant Bastard is one of my favorites. There is a bar up the street that has 69 taps. It is on draft there. That is one of the places I would like to introduce Bionic Tonic to. Alternating between Arrogant Bastard and Bionic Tonic provides an effect tht is almost like eating the funny mushrooms!
Hey, I love those Bionic Tonic Bike Photos!
What a Screeeeemin Machine that is!
Hey Drproteus, here is my wife and I at the same party in 1987, I put my stock executioners hood on! Oh, buy the way, she (and I) are bud lovers! Still wish they had the frog commercial!
Hey drproteus, here is me a in 1987 when I lost my first batch of money and did not properly take advantage of market opportunities that presented themselves then.
Have a Great Day everyone!
I agree you can get these conditions, but they are indeed overbought when they happen. I think if shares are not diluted further, that next year a 45 million dollar capitalization may not only become justifiable, but sustainable. That would be 0.03/share. Under that condition, we could easily see a pop from momentum type traders that could go to 0.15/share.
One thing that would help is when they have the time and money to at least file enough information to get off the STOP listing on the pink sheets.
However, if the company management is so focused on growing the foundations and cash flow machine of the business, such that once they do file more official information, it is good information with good indication of future prospects, then I would much rather wait for it.
As I have been stating in almost every post, this company is selling currently for a price that 0.00014% of the company can be purchased for the same retail price of one can of their product. That is a very very very very very very good ratio!
If the company management truly repsects its shareholders and minimizes any more dilutive actions and does not just split it off leaving a shell, like some do, (and from what I can tell these guys are not of the low level of people), then at that ratio, this company is currently being nearly given away at these prices.
Best of luck to all.
Best of health to all.
God bless America
Godspeed to Bionic Tonic!
Heisenberg May Have Slept Here!
I asked the screw ball on Yahoo to figure out how that might apply. Wonder what he will come back with.
Nice to see the additional PR
More coming I think
Have a bike, now need a car
Gotta have my Lady Pink
This Bionic Tonic is ABSOLUTELY ADDICTIVE!
Everyone Have a Bionic Weekend!
Post 8884 has the pic of Radio Free Bionic, which will be broadcasting to the South Pacific tonight - hi hi !!!
Pic below is shows Bionic Bubbles!
Could have been worse. BNPD actually did not do too bad today.
This shows a pretty solid base formed around 0.001. And you guys know what I think about the price of entire company relative to just one can! GREAT RATIO!
Bionic Tonic is Powering RADIO FREE BIONIC on INTERNATIONAL SHORTWAVE!
Guess I spoke too soon about BNPD, but hold guys, this could just be some normal profit taking or support of margin calls on other investments people have. Some profit taking could be there to buy into some of the good deals presenting themselves on the bigger boards.
If BNPD goes to 0.0005 or lower - IMO - BUY BUY BUY!
Good luck to all.
Glad see both BNPD and the market holding fairly well here.
This could mean my prediction of a low of 7000 in the 2010 timeframe may hold. I hope so.
We will have lower corporate earnings as spending continues to fall. We dont need stimulus to spir spending. We need savings to build a better financial base for all to stand on. Then future markets will have more of a real basis to them.
Good to see the roaming bashers dont find this board that readily like they do on Yahoo!
Good luck to all.
Yes, it could potential break 2000 within this bear cycle.
good luck to all........
I think your calculations are basically correct, however I think their is an argument for the intrinsic dilution not being to bad.
If a company has a small product that is sold over and over because it is a consumable, say razor blades. If the price of on of these blade packages on the shelf is sold at a value that is equivalent to 0.0001% of the company, that is a more true ratio of price to sales ratio.
I agree for BNPD to be taken super seriously by the market as a stand alone (not bought out) company, it must do a reverse split, maybe 1 share for every 1000 or more. But that does not have to happen now. Right now it is most important for their business plan to be executed properly, proper stage-gating, etc., so that the company grows in a stable fashion. Then enough cash flow will be there to hire the accountants necessary to file SEC items needed to get on better exchanges.
A stock must have a $5/share price to be allowed to get on the nasdaq. It can fall below that, but for it or the NYSE if it falls below $1 for then it can be delisted.
This is still a start-up. Look at it that way. They need to build the company to a basic level of operations first. It is not quite there yet. If they truly are only cash, with no use of debt, that is great! This crisis the market is in will not effect them as much. But this could force people holding BNPD to sell to cover their margin calls. That is temporary and not related to the strength or prospects of the company.
What is, is if people cant afford to buy Bionic tonic because they or their parents lost their jobs.
So much more I could better address, but I have to get to work and just typing fast making typos and not explaining well.
Best of luck to all.
Dont panic.
Love life, it is all we really have.
Look adpt, it has debt, but they have so much cash they could pay off their debt and still have so much cash that when you divide the net cash by the total number of shares you get a cash value higher than the stock price before todays sell off.
The caveat is if the ecomony is so bad they do not sell anymore products, they will go into a cash burn stituation.
Look at VIGN, they have no debt. I think today their stock price may fall below their cash per share value.
I have not screened all stocks, but use a stock screener to look for stocks with a debt to equity ratio of <0.01 and a positive PE to start with, then narrow further. I have not check stocks like Coke (KO). Look for companys that have products people will continue to buy and are likely to not go out of business. If you find any of those with low to no debt and cash on hand, to where their share price might drop below their cash value, they could be very good long term buys.
Again, I think it will be at least 2015 before we see any true steady turn-around. I think that will come at least bu 2020. To bad I might be dead by then.
Good luck to all. I will try to scan some stocks and provide better examples.
Wow, today is the day markets drop BNPD will likely hold up though.
IN 30 years of investing, I have not seen futures this low.
Stocks like BNPD can be semi immune to the. I say semi, because some may have margin calls that dictate selling everyhting. So BNPD might get hit by that.
My prediction of a low of 7000 in 2010 may be off. We may see 7000 today and 5000 in 2010.
Good luck to all.
Dont panic. I wish I had cash in my accounts, there will be stocks with no debit selling for 70% of their cash in the bank value today. Once again, I knew it was coming, but have not properly prepared to take advantage of it.
Good luck, appreciate those you love, dont do anything rash today................
It looks like it is getting HEATED over there!
The guy has a point, but for crying out loud it does not always apply. I dont like the massive dilution either. But gee, he is just blowing steam or something other I wish not to mention. I wonder what his repsonse to 800 will be?
If anyone here has any inflence over the company, it would be nice to strongly request they do not dilute farther.
But dont anyone thing that guy is on the up and up either.
I still say even with 1.5 BILLION shares, the company is selling at a price that gets you 0.0001% of the company for the cost of 1 can on the shelf! That is not too diluted yet.
Lets keep it that way. If it dilutes further. Then lets bitch and report people to the SEC and all that stuff!
Have a good day everyone.
I am no expert at reading a women's mind. No one is, not even other women. But I think the Lady Pink can is head and shoulders and other things as well above this lousy looking can. looks like a good can for brake fluid or some hair perm solution, or whatever, but not nearly as eye catching as the lady pink can.
I am telling you, these guys did a good job stage-gating this product. The can design was part of that process. Jack Welsh would be proud!
I hate that when it locks up then multi-sends messages
Sorry about that guys.
I am out of green stuff......having the DT's
Thank goodness. Way to go HybridNotchPop
Did you ever get your can of Bionic Tonic.
You poor guys need a boost!
Just found out my hot water tank exploded. Wow, that will be about 300,000 share of BNPD or more.....
Its fun though. Every day brings a surprise. Good or bad, what they hey, why not party anyway!
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Thank goodness. Way to go HybridNotchPop
Did you ever get your can of Bionic Tonic.
You poor guys need a boost!
Just found out my hot water tank exploded. Wow, that will be about 300,000 share of BNPD or more.....
Its fun though. Every day brings a surprise. Good or bad, what they hey, why not party anyway!
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Thank goodness. Way to go HybridNotchPop
Did you ever get your can of Bionic Tonic.
You poor guys need a boost!
Just found out my hot water tank exploded. Wow, that will be about 300,000 share of BNPD or more.....
Its fun though. Every day brings a surprise. Good or bad, what they hey, why not party anyway!
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