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12345a, please post the link you are referring to at Yahoo. It may very well be a rumor unless it can be substantiated with a link to the event by someone either at Roche or SVFC.
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That's the magic question! To what extent will the recovery be? I believe there will be one and that is why I have been adding significantly at .0002 to average down. No one can predict what will happen but I fully expect a turnaround. All logical signs are pointing in that direction. GLTU
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I hate to keep beating a dead horse but the 8-K's suggest it won't happen. If SVFC was a sinking ship with nothing in the pipeline I would agree with you. We all know how fickle penny stocks can be. 99% of them are crap. SVFC actually has real potential with a great supporting cast. And no, I don't include Dr. Victor as a CEO, just as a doctor. Won't see no bid here and anyone selling is making a very big mistake IMO. Minimal downside risk and huge upside potential.
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Agree, I'm not at all pleased with the lack of visibility from the company either. But I am not going to let that cloud my thought process by getting into a debate about the future and potential. My gut feeling is that they'll eventually have a new CEO, perhaps a different company name, and much more visibility as a result from this new "organization." Like I've said previously, SVFC isn't going anywhere, and a "no bid" is certainly not going to happen. All IMO.
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My guess is YA is trying to get all they can now. The 8-K's weren't released until 10/20 and 10/21.
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How could I possibly know? I can't say for a fact that it WON'T happen. Besides, that tactic makes very good sense for a company that is a sinking ship with no alternatives. I don't believe that is the case with SVFC. Again, carefully read the 8-K's. A R/S makes absolutely no sense.
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MB25, you wrote "Looks like no bid on the near term horizon.' What exactly is this based on? For the first time in months there is a plan in place (read the 8-K's from 10/20 and 10/21). It will bounce between .0001 and .0002 until the plan is executed and then go up, simple as that. If there was ever a time to acquire shares now is the time to do so. All IMO.
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Bingo! These two critical statements seem to get lost in translation on this board, or just ignored. However, they are very meaningful! The current PPS is due to conversions and dilution. We all know that. The PPS has hit rock bottom IMO and a there are things going on and in the planning stages that will ignite this company. SVFC isn't going anywhere despite what you may otherwise read.
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Slow down son...I stand by my post. It is not WRONG[color=red][/color]. It is factual and completely unbiased. SVFC is going to survive, like it or not.
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According to the 8-K's a M&A or JV is not out of the question. If one of those scenarios were to happen then a lot of the repairs will be taken care of. More than likely a new CEO, debts paid off, etc. Maybe even a new company but with the same science and technology led by Dr. Victor. The doctor wouldn't have to worry about being a CEO anymore and could just focus on what he does best. Doesn't sound bad. I'm just speculating of course but it can't be ruled out.
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familymatters, without hesitation, yes! Why? They changed accounting firms, restated their financials, added a temporary CFO (to be replaced with a permanent one at a later date), and then released the 8-K's on October 20 and 21. They should be announcing the opening of the Andrews Center anytime and will be opening others in the future. Why would the company be getting its ducks in a row if something wasn't in the works? And do you think Dr. Andrews, Raymond Hill, etc., would be associated with SVFC if the company wasn't going to eventually succeed? They wouldn't be wasting their time!
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No question investor's in the past have been hurt, particularly if they sold. However, it had nothing to do with common sense or being smart. It was caused by dilution and conversions agreed to in an agreement Dr. Victor shouldn't have agreed to. The Dr. is naïve in such matters and that is why he will be getting help in future financial decisions. Let him stick the medical side of SVFC. Those who did invest within the past year, or longer, can't blame themselves for the decline. Penny stocks are always risky. But this company does show tremendous potential and given the right resources will be just fine. The 8-K's are an excellent indication that they are heading on the right path and could make a quick 180 at a moments notice. The downside risk in minimal. That is why I wrote the smart money is adding at current prices. The upside potential is enormous and folks can lower their cost average significantly by adding. All IMO. SVFC$$$$
Finally, some common sense. Doom and gloom? The 8-K's weren't released by accident. No, the bid will not go to zero. Yes, the PPS will rebound once the conversions and the rest of the current nonsense ceases. Longs know this and are patiently waiting in the wings. Smart money is adding shares and new investors are on the scene to flip. IMO we hover around .0002 and then rebound to .0006. There will be resistance at .0006 that SVFC eventually breaks through and then it's off to the races. All IMO. SVFC$$$$
I couldn't agree with you more Gannicus. This is a great time to pick up additional shares IMO. I added a bunch at .0002 which to me was a no brainer. The conversions will eventually cease and the ride back up will be a good one. Not suggesting a rapid rise, but a bounce and then a nice trend upwards. The 8-K's are very telling. GLTU SVFC$$$$
Bingo!! That is why SVFC isn't going away and I'm not selling. Way too much upside to ignore not to mention all of the work alluded to. Andrews, Hill, etc., aren't stupid either. The bid will never get to zero IMO. SVFC$$$$
I understand the frustration but that makes no sense. I mean, why? Read the 8-K's again. This company isn't going anywhere. At the current PPS the downside risk is minimal and the upside reward is enormous! I have been adding and won't sell. Better days ahead. Just patiently waiting. SVFC$$$$
Lol, pathetic? Welcome to penny land BBW! There is nothing surprising about any of the trades or manipulation that takes place with any of the penny stocks and SVFC is no exception. SVFC will survive the conversions and all of the other nonsense currently taking place. SVFC will be just fine and the bottom feeders down here will profit the most IMO. Now, more important things like off to the driving range! SVFC$$$$
StockingUp, very well said! Good post! SVFC$$$$
Who is "Slick Vic?' I haven't found the name associated anywhere with SVFC. However, there is a Dr. Steven Victor, a highly prominent figure at SVFC. He doesn't use any aliases to my knowledge. It appears that the use of "Slick Vic" may be a character assassination on Dr. Steven Victor. Actually it's an ongoing personal attack. Please stick to the facts. Dr. Victor hasn't, and won't be indicted of any criminal wrongdoing so why even suggest the man is dishonest and capable of intentionally harming shareholders? He may be naïve about financing but he is certainly not dishonest. SVFC$$$$
Yep, nothing new as that has all been well documented. However, the 8-K's are potential game changers. Something positive for SVFC is obviously in the works, conversions or not. SVFC$$$$
Good post StockingUp. The 8-K's are very telling. Getting too emotional here could prove to be very costly. SVFC$$$$
Throw all charts, expected timeframes, etc., out the window. I expect we will get pleasantly blindsided by a series of events that will make the majority of us very happy indeed. I've never believed in using charts for penny stocks anyway. They're useless IMO. But this baby will fly in due time, and no one will be able to predict when launch will take place. One thing is certain, especially in light of recent developments, this stock is highly undervalued. Hold on tight! All IMO. SVFC$$$$
jay one, I think that scenario would have been more likely if SVFC had finished at the HOD yesterday. With the massive volume there will be a lot of resistance trying to move up from here. IMO we'll get to .001 and beyond, but it will take longer than this week. Unless of course we get some unexpected mega news dropped on us! SVFC$$$$
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TGS, why would Dr. Andrews, Raymond Hill, or others, associate themselves with criminals? They are highly regarded professionals and their reputations mean everything to them. So why would they risk everything to get mixed up in something criminal? Dr. Andrews is at the top of his field! Think about that! Yes, the toxic financing is a mess. Dr. Victor is guilty of being naïve when he agreed to the deal, but he is certainly not a criminal! By the way, the toxic financing WILL get fixed in due time. Might want to purchase a few shares! SVFC$$$$
Yep, we could see a nice run of PR's. The PPS can only be held back for so long. Conversions, dilution, all of this nonsense will eventually be in the rear view mirror as SVFC seeks to restructure and seek better financing alternatives. A future MA or JV? Hmm... SVFC$$$$
Well, that is the nature of the beast. Anyone frustrated by the lack of upward movement today needs to relax. Tremendous volume yesterday will make it difficult to move. Need to get past .0006 for starters, but that will eventually happen IMO. Just revisit the pipeline, do DD, and reread the 8-K's from the last couple of days. Does anyone really think this is going to just sit here at around .0003 to .0004 forever? Hell no! Who benefits from that long term? Again, read the 8-K's. Patience will be rewarded big time. I know longs have been patient for awhile, but we are finally starting to see something to get exited about and now is NOT the time to sell! Long and strong! All IMO. SVFC$$$$
Longs are going to be the winners here. Flippers playing a dangerous game and the frustration is clearly showing. SVFC$$$$
dcsteve, the science and technology SVFC can offer is enormous. Now that management has decided to get off the crapper and take this in a new direction, as evidenced by the 8-K's, the implications and potential rewards for shareholders is tremendous. All IMO but I think we are going to be very happy campers in the not too distant future. SVFC$$$$
Only a matter of time. I can wait. SVFC$$$$
Sage7243, added, thank you! SVFC$$$$
Let's not get too caught up in whatever happens with the PPS today or tomorrow. The most important event over the last two days is the release of the 8-K's. The implications of what they mean will do wonders for the PPS, if not today, or tomorrow, then certainly soon! SVFC$$$$
The volume is insane! This is getting the attention of a lot of folks. SVFC$$$$
LJ, I can't PM so I couldn't respond to your question. Git R Dun!!! SVFC$$$$
Inforich, yes it is typical. I'm not sure about retesting the lows though. The volume is enormous and if it finishes at the HOD I don't think we'll retest the lows again. We'll just have to wait and see. Sentiment is definitely changing. SVFC$$$$
cofca, 2 posts? Welcome to the party! What have you got to back up the claim that the 8-K is BS? Dinosaur Securities certainly isn't. SVFC$$$$
Hey, I hope some of you guys are right! I'm just trying to keep expectations realistic. Long and strong! SVFC$$$$
There was so much selling/buying at .0003 that it may be a bit of a challenge to get past .0006 due to profit taking. If we can get past .0006, IMO, this could run close to .001 within a few days easily. Like I said though, getting past .0006 will be a challenge short term. SVFC$$$$
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Thank you for pointing out the obvious which the current PPS clearly reflects. However, the recovery is under way. Time to climb on board or get left behind at the station! SVFC$$$$