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Half the sites recruiting and we are 2 weeks in. Ugh. It is more non warp speed in action, folks, as B gets into the ring with C.
They are holding the bout in Russia in many arenas and in Toledo and Metairie too- token US participation.
Results in summer. Ugh If very good news, sooner , no doubt. If the results are slow to come out surely bad news = classic Leo plan.
Must hope data so good the trial is stopped and B given to all. Now that would be a nice twist
He was not quiet about everything. He announced the trial start 3 times and then realizing he could not keep announcing that it would start, he finally announced very quietly in a 10 Q that it hd started.
How quiet is that? Start Q4 and start Jan and start week 1 Feb?
All wrong.
Not quiet.
Just wrong.
Something happened? There we agree. Obviously, since the start was delayed 3 times after the start was announced
Want to run trials in Siberia?
7 Nobel St Moscow Russia IP HQ
***OFFICIAL USE ONLY*** privileged trial information
Move it people! We told the Americans we would start on December 17 and we are already more than 2 months behind!!!
Recruit! Enroll! Dose!
repeat after me: Recruit, enroll, dose!
or you will be running trials in Siberia. You think it's cold in Moscow?
Site 15 to Site 5:Boris Goloschekin to Natasha Lomakin
***OFFICIAL USE ONLY*** Misuse punishable by poisoning
Intratrial communication.
Boris here. Hey Natasha- I thought you guys were gonna blast out of the gate? And guess what? Word about the trial finally came out and you have not even started recruiting! It is right there in black an white on the American trial site!
Natasha-well...
Boris- Hospital #15 here in St Petersburg is on the move. And you over there in the capital in Moscow at "Central Clinical Hospital with a Polyclinic"? Hey get in the game!
Natasha-sigh. We will overfulfill our quota nonetheless. Just you wait.
Let's summarize, shall we? Shocking, really. Less than a year ago IP was not in the running for a COVID therapeutic. Yet they did lab studies and published a paper and got FDA expedited approval and started a trial. All this from nothing at all.
And yet the share price is just above a quarter, and it is dropping steadily, for days now.
Is it all to be expected? A triple from 8-10 cents a share on the possibility that this would come to pass- that is plenty of gain for an unproven indication?
Maybe so. It shows how wrong the expectations were then, that there would a big rise in share price as these particulars unfolded. There were some bumps up, and then IP went right back down again.
Looking at it from a distance, this is about what we ought to have guessed since there is a good chance the trial will fail.
The long view helps understand how wrong expectations have been for this company. Over the top hopes? Those are still there, since maybe it helps patients. But a price of a quarter? Not many would have expected it at this juncture.
Interesting- I wrote this before seeing the trial news someone found today. Leo could not be bothered to tell us this himself. I wonder why? The trial is in Russia, with the fewest of exceptions? It just started and half the sites are not recruiting yet? How many enrolled? How many dosed? There is something sad about this when it ought to have been sensational.
Buy buy buy- just look at these prices!
But if B v C fails what will IP be worth?
A nickel. Maybe.
Wait for it. wait for it...it is ANOTHER buying opportunity! What a surprise! The company that fails to deliver is at it again.
So much certainty about good data coming out of Russia that the share price keeps sliding on down....way on down. It would appear that most people are not willing to pretend that there is a very good chance of success of B v C- hence the share price
Pathetic CEO ommunication. What's he hiding?
How sad for all of us shareholders, here for years, that Leo has played this so poorly. Could I have done better as CEO? I doubt it.
But at least I would not have issued those ugly B OM subset PRs and lied to my shareholders with statistical tricks as with P2b and B OM
Leo's communication with shareholders? Desperate? pathetic? I could not agree more. That is what I am unhappy about. Joking- mostly- about Russia.
Single digit share club! Join the club of those with average share price of under 10 cents. In single digits. So many of you-hahahahaha-have to keep averaging down from very high share prices but no, not here.
Single digits all the way! That is just one of the great things about me. And plus it is a lot of shares.
Zippity doodah! My oh my!
Single digits for all those many shares.
Just amazing timing thank you very much
The Hail Mary Russia trial, you mean? The B v C trans Russian desperation last minute trial? Well, we are certainly near the end of the game.
Wait wait- tough to say for sure. Opening up Texas could provide a market if B actually works....
Untrustworthy CEO chooses untrustworthy country for B v C trial. Bogus.
Russian CRO- we will poison those who do not like our results! Guaranteed!
It's all about trust. IP DD: Russia? Well what do you know? I had checked Madagascar and Peru and the Maldives and New Zealand and Japan and Canada and Belgium and Argentina and Italy and on and on- all those trial sites- and whaddya know?
It turns out Leo is running the trial behind our backs - not even a word(to most people, anyway)- in Russia, 20 sites mostly in Moscow and St Petersburg .
How interesting. COVID ravages our country and we are going overseas.
Over to where the data cannot be truly trusted- gee, why would the untrustworthy CEO choose an untrustworthy country? Why?
CEO Ehrlich : How did those clowns ever figure out the trial is in Russia? Who leaked it?
IP HQ Moscow: the penalty for leaks is poisoning here in our glorious country. So not likely on our end.
CEO Ehrlich: What is the penalty for delaying the trial by 2 months already? Remember we were supposed to start Dec 17? Remember? What went wrong?
IP HQ 7 Nobel St: Huh? Asking such questions is futile. it would be like your shareholders trying to get information out of you.
CEO Ehrlich: Ha, haha. Good one.
Please Sir- could I have a bit more information?
Not a chance! Keep logging in says CEO!!! All you need to do is repeatedly check clinical trials gov site- why should there be a problem with that? One of these days you may find out what I should tell you now.
But you will not like it so I am hiding that information....maybe. Maybe not
Russia trial already way behind! Start delayed by 2 months from Dec 17 to mid Feb and deadline was moved back by 6 months. Maybe it won't go till Sept- but it means there have been problems ALREADY getting things up and running in Russia
Great point- with all those days to wait, then why wouldn't the CEO man up and tell the details?
Because in this matter he is a LOSER
A recurring feature:tomorrow's NEJM today. OK guys it is one article about treatment for COVID 19 after another. But no mention of B at first glance- oh yes, still recruiting, no doubt.
LOL. Hey you use the same thing in Russia? Pretty funny.
IP Moscow- DA. Funny.
Does anyone need poisoning yet? ***OFFICIAL TRIAL USE ONLY***
7 Nobel St Moscow.
IP HQ- Hey Comrade Leo- If it is your very sincere belief that the trial could go more smoothly, if any problems need fixing then we have a few approaches to such problems. It involves a shot, sometimes. Or sometimes smearing around lethal poison instead of a shot. It is the sort of hing we have a lot of practice with
We are also very good at denial of any involvement.
Even if our involvement is proven we will continue to deny it.
Mr Ehrlich- umm. No. No need at all. Not yet anyway. How many patients have been dosed so far?
IP HQ- we will let you know. OK? Don't push it.
Leo- Not to worry. Believe me, I can stall my shareholders. I have been doing that for years.
IP HQ- LOL.
Hey people- remain calm and keep checking the website. I gave you the name of the website and that is all you are gonna get from me. It's clinical trials something or other.
Who expects more info? Losers.
So you went behind my back and found out the trial is in Russia?
Anybody got a problem with that???
I didn't think so. I mean, how could there be a problem with a Russian trial?
OK so it has been delayed 3 x already. So what.
It's textbook everybody. How to kill momentum Watch the master at work-
Sadly it is your company CEO (Leo at IP)at work killing any momentum he might have generated from having a drug reach a B v C trial.
How to botch it? He has done it so well.
Any rallies? Squelched. Killed.
Just look at the ccurrrent stonewalling and lack of info.
Way to kill the mo Leo-
Kill it.
?keep on clicking? Bogus nonsense. How pathetic and embarrassing to have a worthless CEO who can refer shareholders to a website instead of providing key information
Keep on clicking, says CEO! Eventually one day when you click on the clinical trials site and check on Brilacidin, you will get more information.
But no- I cannot possibly be bothered to tell you myself-
Shareholders! How annoying.
Keep on clicking folks.
As CEO I should have to inform shareholders of critical trial information? Says who???
he also said the trial was going to start Q4 And then Jan And then Feb week 1
So the planned 12/17 start in Russia was delayed multiple times-
No to worry though
just continually click on clinical trials site, per your CEO
LOL
ultimate market validation with announcement of success in B v C?
Oh yes, pending.
Russian trial deadline pushed out to Sept.
When will that big validation be occurring after all?
If ever?
No one knows of course.
Plenty of time to buy here, zero sense of urgency, as Leo has killed any momentum here
B OM will not be resuscitated unless the company has a cash windfall. As things stand, it is a goner.
maybe B UC focus, if the company can survive a B for C flop.
or maybe, B beats C convincingly and the whole world changes-
Frozen B. Trial extension - March 31 to Sept 2021
IP HQ Moscow, 7 Nobel Street, to Wakefield MA USA ***OFFICIAL trial use ONLY*** Violators will be imprisoned or much much worse.
Comrade Leo-just to explain the holdup and the need for trial extension through the summer. As we informed you earlier, the Brilacidin you sent us was stored in 20 hospital basements pending trial start and all of the shipments are frozen. We estimate here that with 6 extra months that the IV preparation will eventually warm up enough to be used in the trial.
6 extra months ought to be sufficient. We do hope to have enough COVID patients to enroll, but word of caution - enrollment will be slower as the year progresses and our population egts vaccinated.
Winters are hard in Russia. As you know.
We assume Comrade that you will fulfill your duty to inform your shareholders of these unfortunate but understandable trial delays
HQ out-
Wakefield IP office- Sigh. Why did I choose winter in Russia for the trial?
Poison me now, why doncha.
Is it true? Can you see Mongolia and Kazakhstan from your window in Barnaul General Hospital?
IP HQ 7 Nobel St Moscow- We heard that was the case-
Official trial use only. Violators will be poisoned. Possibly shot and poisoned. With maybe years of hard labor too.
Barnaul- That old joke? Ha. Ha ha. Yes many different time zones from Moscow-
OK so maybe every now and then some pollution visible from Ulanbataar.
7 Nobel St Moscow Russia IP LLC HQ
Apparatchik- I see we have a warm spell in Moscow and St Petersburg. Even in Barnaul. But colder next week.
Where is everybody? Trial enrollment is so slow.
Miriinsky City hospital here, sir: They want us to exclude heavy drinkers. That is most of our population. You know, by design of the central govt. Cheap vodka for the proletariat.
IP official- Bogus. I call bogus on that. They know how much our population drinks.
Researcher at Miriinsky: We will overfulfill our quota. Eventually.
It would be funny- if it were not the sad truth, instead.
CEO says: More info available, at some point in the future, to those willing to just keep on searching!
Pathetic
You can't HANDLE the truth, IP CEO Leo Ehrlich informed his shareholders, in a company update. That is why I tell you nothing. Nothing about Russia as the trial site. For 106 patients.
I will tell you 60 B and 60 placebo. You can handle that. And some overseas action. You can handle that too.
But that is about all for now.
It's for your own good.
Because you can't HANDLE the truth. About B versus C
I prefer to waste your time, says IP CEO, as he announces that you can just keep clicking on the clinical trials site for more info re B v C
CEO Ehrlich: I say to myself, self: do I have the time to spell out details, like how many patient and how they are selected and where they will be treated, when allpeoplehave to do is repeatedly check out the site? I prefer to waste your time and not mine
I mean, who am I? Some sort of a lackey?
You wanna know about trial design, you can just wait in the darkness until the infois made avaialable.
Honestly, you would think I worked for the shareholders.
Info that every one deserves a long time ago- sorry I cannot be bothered to do my job.
Leo- I recommend everyone waste his or her time looking at the website. Got it?
after the vaccines, after the case declines, after 500,000 deaths in the US already, IP gets in the game, in Russia of all places, land of oppression and public lies.
If the data are sensational this will still end well.
If not then the game may be over for IP. Will there be a penny left for B UC?
No way to find a partner for B v C trial? Evidently not.
Leo talks to Russia in late spring/summer. Let's listen in-
(A few token people treated somewhere in the US, but it's a Russian trial. Don't forget about that market, if it sort of succeeds-)
Leo- But comrade you said payment was forthcoming.
Russian health care delivery executive- That is correct, sir.
Leo- But, when? When? We have shipped you so much product.
Russia- Thank you very much.
Leo: But, but..
Russia- You are not complaining loudly. Are you?
Leo-No. No. Just a soft whimper. Why did I ever pick Russia for the trial? Why? why?
Russia- Do we have to come over there and poison you?
Leo-sigh
Um, actually maybe you refer instead to an older doc here who likes to say how many shares he or she has, and used to be a long, right until he or she became so fed up with lack of info from CEO that he or she began selling. You know- selling, just before the glorious triumph of B v C....
Ah, weekend developments, disgruntled longs have the nerve to speak up....just a bit sad, though.
Natasha? Boris here. Official Brilacidin trial communication log. ***Official use only.*** All other use punishable by slow poisoning death. Which we will deny. Even though everybody knows we did it. What a country!
Boris: Hey have you enrolled any patients yet? I bet they have a few in Barnaul. We will overfulfill our quota certainly. Just not yet.
Natasha: I hope they are not poisoning center researchers with slow enrollment.
Boris: Yes that would be a drag
Natasha: What a country.
14 patients in the US but where??? What could be more fun than guessing? And what choice do we have for the moment? How about Boca Raton Regional Hospital? Maybe. How about Melrose Wakefield Hospital, the closest to current office address? Or Lahey Medical Center in Peabody, near the previous HQ? Are we still paying the bill for that office and lab? Any chance a bigger center like MGH or the Brigham? No idea. But now that Leo broke the tile to say 120 only and we know it's 106 for Russia the only excitement for now is where the remaining 14 will be.
No partnership, no company sale, just the usual Leo and IP baloney- disappointment.
But at least we can obsessively click on the clinical trials site. That's fun, right?
Ironic, right? Headline should read IP does NOT provide study details... yada yada
They left out most everything we wanna know.
But so it goes with Leo at the helm
Pathetic, really
seriously? cannot tell if you are. You know, like any other disease, some are better and some are worse For corona lung injury, goes from a slight cough and a sat of 99-100 to respiratory failure, requiring intubation, and everything in between
You have to be quite sick with COVID if you are admitted
sorry no clue what you mean and no interest in scrolling through an old thread. Uncertain what interests you so much about it
I have said way too may times already: B OM failed, and B v C- nobody knows winner or loser in the corona arena.