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should anyone be buying right now?
I got lucky. I got in at 1.22, got scared when it got close to $1 and totally bailed. I got pissed when it went over $2, but said, "oh well, that will happen, don't panic".
Now I saw this poor thing just crash hard. I still believe in it and may look to jump back in at some point in time, but to be honest, would it be safe to buy in right now?
I know this company is huge, but I trying to figure out how PCX can climb out and get back to the numbers it use to. It got delisted hard and going to take awhile to get back into it.
sorry to see those that got stuck. You know me, I got nothing but love and luck for you all to make it out with this and believed in it. So this is sad to see
Oh yes, fully agree, no way APS is going to say anything about GWBU. Im only thinking they aren't going to "retire" because they didn't reach $2 and will blame it on the whole server issue link you pointed out.
I "think" the pick is officially coming out this week. I played the CTD* already, but go out at 10%. Only because RARS has me gun shy a bit
I'm in hold pattern until official email, so I will keep on holding until that happens
thanks for any and all input, much appreciated
hey Ken! You and a few others have been very gracious with tips and wisdom to keep me from buying in on some stuff in the past.
With GWBU and a few others I've seen, rumor mill has been going around for CTDT being the next pick (since yesterday). What is your thought on this since APS sort of fizzled with GWBU?
I have a feeling they are going to say that is the reason they didn't break $2, due to your link you provided. Now that it appears they relocated their service elsewhere, I'm sure the next pick is coming.
I want to jump on something, but can't right now. But, at the same time, I don't want a situation like RARS in the sense that it was a rumor to be its pick and when it wasn't, it went right into the toilet.
Are you waiting as well for official email? Or you just doing your own thing?
If you don't want to give away any tricks of the trade, no worries, fully understand. Just trying to hit up a true pro and get some insight
thanks in advance!
-Frank
saw this yesterday:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=77310047
Then if you read up on the link from the other, you will notice that the comment fields suggest they went somewhere else.
After checking on the site myself, I see that they did last update it on June 25th, which is when they moved their stuff. So everything should be working now.
This could be "why" they haven't been emailing out and further pumping GWBU. I have a feeling they are going to say they won't quit due to this issue and blame that for the reason why GWBU didn't reach the $2 goal.
They could be also going quiet for their next pick, which may be CTDT or something else. For now, I'm just going to lay low and wait for the official email to come out. Last check still shows last update on their site is June 25th.
in the same boat, bought in and sold out monday, can't do anything till Thursday.
email for APS is working. They relocated their stuff June 25th.
You can easily go in, submit a new email address to be on their list and you'll get an email from them shortly.
hope this is the pick, but I'm still holding off until official email comes out.
this has a good run and happy to see everyone is cashing in.
I don't want another RARS in the sense that a lot said it was the pick and when it wasn't, it came crashing down.
nothing but love and luck to you all. If they pick it, I'll be in with you. Won't be in a good spot like the rest, but oh well.
yeah, I noticed that nothing has been updated since June 25th on their site
"predictions" for next announcement is thursday, friday, or next Monday.
I've seen many already say it was SWTR (now CTDT) for next pick, but I'm still holding off till next email
for all we know, they could come back and do GWBU again since they didn't reach the $2 goal
Of course, they can easily say the reason WHY they didn't reach that goal of $2 is due to that spam issue mentioned by ken. I can see it now "we had issues with our emailer which caused us not to promote GWBU like we normally do, and therefore caused it to not reach our $2 goal like we wanted. Due to this issue that has been resolved, and overwhelming support to continue our newsletter, we will keep promoting" or something like that
doesn't matter to me. I'll just have to keep waiting for next promotion by them. I tried to jump on the TBX this morning, but once I got the announcement, I went to buy within 30 seconds of that email and put in the order at the current price and when I submitted it, it was already in the .60s at over 300%. Oh well. Not fast enough, or TBX is too fast to make it jump to quick, who knows. But 300% in a few seconds of the TBX email is insane. Not sure who even got in on that email at the bottom line (unless you got in the week before)
Ya, so do I. I'm not "bashing" this stock, all I was saying earlier was to "be careful". I'm going to be cautious and hold off till the official APS.
I think at the price is a good entry point to get in at. Even if this goes up to .30 and APS comes out with it being the pick. It's much better than starting way too high at $1 and trying to get it to reach $15. It couldn't even get to $2.
With this as low as it is, starting at .30 or even .35 (like SNPK as an example) and have it shoot to 2.40 in a couple of weeks. That's possible with this easy.
In my case, I'm gonna wait and jump when email comes out. If I'm too late, then I'm too late. If its not the pick, then I avoided a bullet. I may not get a huge profit like some of you all, but I still may get some. Some is better than none, or negative.
good luck to you all and hope this is the actual pick. I got my finger on the trigger!
hey, what makes you think its this Thursday? Just curious how you may know it. My guess was Friday the earliest and most likely Monday. My reasoning is that they started GWBU for 2 months on May 14th and I figured the end would be July 14th, or July 13th the earliest. So, that would put it around Friday or Monday
Just trying to see your thought on it
thanks
All I'm saying is, if you've been watching this one (SWTR or CTDT), it was at .30, then mid .30s, then reached .50 and then tanked down to the .20s. Then it tanked further down to where it started at this morning. That all happened BECAUSE people thought it was the next APS and it wasn't.
Therefore, it DID tank like RARS did in the sense that RARS doubled on the rumor of APS, then tanked on everyone sayings its not the pick. We are back to the "rumor" again that this is the next pick
I do hope that this is the pick as I've been watching and waiting to pull the trigger. But, after seeing how many lost so much thinking the same thing with RARS, I'm going to hold off until that official email comes out.
Hope you all have loaded up and make out big and I'll be the lonely loser who probably waited till it was too late. But that's ok, I'm not going to risk it on a chance with this. We all know IF APS comes out with a pick and it's NOT this, we know it will tumble down hard and you better jump quick before you lose it all.
nothing but luck to you all
I'll wait for the official APS email. Last time this happened, I saw them promo RARS and we all saw what happened with that and where it went. Everyone thought it was RARS and it tanked because it wasn't the pick.
until it comes out, you are just guessing. I saw a ton of people "guess" RARS thanks to Preferred and others and it wasn't APS pick and bam, tanked city
be careful!
Yeah, I agree. Plus, APS isn't going to be able to come out with their pick until next week due to the 2 month contract they have with the other one that picked GWBU. If they DO pick this one, it won't be until next Monday the earliest.
TBX went this week so they would be ahead and before APS as they know APS can't come out with a pick until either this Friday, or next Monday. Reason is they picked no May 14th for GWBU and 2 months is July 14th, which is a Saturday. Could be a chance that they can do it by Friday, but I'm guessing most likely on Monday
Sad thing for TBX is I don't really know anyone that got in on that early enough. I know I got the alert, jumped on it in seconds, put in a bid and next thing I know its at .60 (300%). Oh well, guess not fast enough.
This one is good for a few trades here and there, but don't think CTDT is going to be the next pick.
ooops! Maybe I should buy a ton now?
yeah, go ahead and keep "loading" up. Saw a lot of people do that with RARS who also tried to say it was APS next pick. Where is it at now? OH yeah, wayyyyy down there.
See this all the time. Its a good way to get in, say its next APS, sell out on top of almost 100% and watch others prove its not APS next pick and watch it crash
feel sorry for those that got in and kept "loading" up.
I got great advice from very nice people to stay away and I'm glad I did. I just want to pay it forward and share the same good advice.
good luck to all
actually the .30 to 2.50 (actual numbers I think was .35 to 2.48) was SNPK that they are talking about
Either way, it's fake, knowprophet did a good job isolating it was a fake
not worried, I'll just wait for the official email
keep buying this one up though, it will be way up there with RARS, lol
haha, that's hilarious!!! Someone posted the same fake email on here earlier.
APS won't be able to pick anything until after July 14th.
nothing but rumors and this is what happens with rumors, they climb the stock price up and tanks after rumors are confirmed false
just have to wait for official mail sometime July 16th or later
yeah, exactly what I'm planning on doing. I know the first few days of the pick is really good. You will see it well for 2 weeks. After 2 weeks, I don't touch it anymore
Like you said, I typically get in early, jump out after a good profit and wait a few days for dust to settle. Watch it a bit and see how its' going and jump back in. Typically there is a few days without any PRs. Every time a PR comes out, it jumps. Get in right before or on the PRs and then get the quick profit and get out
rinse and repeat
Thanks to all for your posts. Excellent info, good sharing, most appreciate it.
I think I'm gonna listen and just hold my moola until next week.
I believe TBX is next week for sure. Something is telling me that APS won't be until the following Monday (July 16th). If my "guessing" is good, APS did the pick May 14th and supposed to run it 2 months. That puts it approx July 14th (Saturday), so IF they have a contract to where they can't do anything until after 2 months, then that puts it right around July 16th
I also have a feeling TBX knows this and wants to beat APS to the punch
roger that, good looking out. I figure this would be bottom, but with dumps like this, it can go way lower
I'll hold off till official APS and/or TBX email
thanks man!
i'm about to buy, should I even bother?
I have to agree. You had 2 times where it jumped 300%. That's definitely rare.
Like many promos, towards the end, it's going to tank. Just like APS, it stopped promoted GWBU and its down huge. It had a nice bounce this morning on big news, but it's not much.
It's one of those things, you enjoy the ride at the beginning and get out. No point in going back in later, or holding in the long run. None of their picks typically hold in the long run at the level they were. Some do, but those are also rare.
APS recent pick was horrible, not even 100%. Here you have TBX for AGRT that had 2 run ups of 300%. That's great.
The next pick could even be larger. For those that jumped on this late and kept holding, sorry to hear that.
Best to just wait until next week when they come out with a new pick.
nothing but luck to you all
hey Ken, thanks for the PM. Sorry, I have free acct and can't respond.
It looks like my order isn't going to fill again. Will have to check this out tomorrow.
I may just hold off till TBX next pick when I know the volume will be there and easy to buy. TBX and APS next week I'm sure.
good luck to all here
Nope, it hasn't filled any of it. I have a limit orders for 150k at .11 and another 150k for .12. Not filling any. I don't think it's the volume too low today.
I've got a few people hit me up (not on these boards) telling me to pull them out because AGRT is pretty much done. I'm on the fence though. I would like to think they will blow up again, but its tough with no new PR or any further news. This is a short week with July 4th and I think market is closing early tomorrow right?
Who knows. Its tough to get in on it. Maybe I'm going for too much, very odd
this thing is going to bounce like crazy. better watch out. hopefully CJ is buying at this level and get a good position. I got a 300k order that won't fill again. I increased it since the price has also decreased.
looking for this baby to bounce from .10 or .11 all the way back up to .60 again
Exactly. I'm also holding off on buying more. I got some funds moving around and looking to jump on some more when it dips more. I hope it doesn't, but at the same time, in all reality, we know it will and I want to be able to get a better position as well. I've been looking to add a lot more and this would be the time to do so.
Not expecting major jumps till later this year. Could happen in August when they announce just how much they will get from Apple, but not expecting it to be much. End of the year could be the piece that we expect to finally seeing good revenues that will be the best piece for this to jump and stay
yah, that was also my question/concern as well. Visser is not affected by the dilution, but at the same time, if this drops down to what Visser got in at (.11 cents for some of his shares, etc), then he may not like it very much.
The only thing that has me not freaking out is, Visser knows about all of this and he doesn't seem to be concerned/worried about it.
He may be aware that we have to take a step or 2 backwards, in order to make bigger steps forward. Yeah, we may dip some, but he knows the end result in a couple of years will be much greater.
Its tough to say. You wish that they could just come out and tell you, but we know they can't do that.
I still like how stable it is, so that's definitely a good sign. about to go on vacation and thought to myself "don't even look at the price anymore, you're not going to like it for awhile". I know it will be great later this year, but we have another bumpy ride
So, it looks good, but the ride isn't over yet.
have to say, I like how its holding up still. To be honest, I really thought this was gonna be at .25 or lower by now
The good news is, financing is fine and we are going to get good news soon, no doubt. The best news won't be until 4th QT, but we need to be stable with it.
The big question is, has the Dilution started? If not, this may be why we haven't dropped. If it has started and not a ton of dumping and lowering with the dilution, then that is also a good sign.
Hopefully it will keep maintaining where it's at, will prove just how strong it truly is. This is something we already know, but its important with the numbers and investors to see this, will be great in the long run
ya, looking to jump in this bad boy.
not sure if it's next APS pick, but should be good
ya, good call. Maybe not till next Monday or after that. They may still push AGRT, but so was APS on GWBU and we all see where that is and what happened
Funny, I emailed TBX last week to confirm their pick is still remaining the same, but they never responded.
Don't be surprised if they change it this week. You may not even hear anything this week and they will pick something new next week.
This is going to keep going lower.
Be careful...just saying
JMO
many thanks for all the updates and clarification. I had been following along for awhile. Think this was the first time I saw it dip that low after market. But, like a lot of you have said, it doesn't really mean nothing, esp with the market being slow and not much volume.
I put in a few bids and they didn't get filled, but they were very high volume numbers. Will try on Monday
thanks again!
yeah, NOT new to stocks. Last time I see it dive like that, its kind of weird. I don't see that happen with that huge of a gap, not too mention how it changes.
but that's good to hear, I was about to say "holy crap, sorry guys/gals!"
wow, couldn't help but see the news posted this morning, and then the 10k in after hours. I saw that it had dropped in after market news. Now I'm seeing the "bid" prices drop from $2...to then $1.80 and now it's at .82. ouch!
I hope that isn't the case. Was going to jump in this today at 2.27, but they didn't pick up my bids.
anyone know what's going on more than this?
this is the 10k they posted after market closed
http://xml.10kwizard.com/filing_raw.php?repo=tenk&ipage=8345888
yeah, not many are buying, and people that are selling are selling higher than the buy/ask.
I think people are waiting on email from TBX or some news. Think it also means MMs are not wanting to fill big orders, not sure.
Its tough to say what is going on. Was looking forward to finally jumping in on this with 125k shares.
I think next email from TBX with some news is going to make this thing jump again. Will it go up to .60 again? Sure, why not. It could go even higher.
But apparently I can't get in and this one is very risky at the moment, so I'm not going to push it without a good entry point
I killed my order. They aren't filling it and the volume and numbers are too low. Oh well.
Hmm, may have to do a "market order" then. I'm thinking of doing that as well since none if filling
that sucks. I got in a buy at .16 for 125,000 shares. waiting to see if it fills
Well, there IS a good chance that the "revenue" piece in the 4th QT may be from the Apple extension. They could say that those funds are given to LQMT until the 4th qt. It's tough to say though
however, thinking about it more, this may even be a "hint" that they are NOT going to get a lump sum, or payments spread out through each quarter. But, in fact, could be the result of "royalties" for liquidmetal used in Apple products.
Since apple is NOT going to be selling the new iphone until Sept or October, that puts it EXACTLY at the time where you would count on 4th qt revenues.
If that is the case, then I would say 4th qt will be decent, and quarters after will be big as well.
That is good news in "long term earnings and revenues". This is stuff that will be for years to come.
Well, thanks anyways. Both men of integrity.
We kind of figured this was going to be the case. I haven't been really reading into it much. Going to be waiting on this for awhile, but that's the point
Will be interested to see how the stock reacts tomorrow. I would think it wouldn't do anything until the new shares are free. From there, who knows what will happen.
If it drops a lot (e.g. back to .11 or less), I will definitely be buying a more more. This is one of those I'm leaving alone for at least 5 years or more.
once again, thanks to Watt and 87 year old Vet. A friend of mine just lost her grandfather who was 88, and was WWII vet and part of Patton's tank group.
Nothing but respect for you all. Will keep chiming in when I get a chance.
-Frank