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Take it easy. What im saying is that its given me pause when stock prices act in a peculiar fashion, without any immediate noteworthy news. Just an opinion of mine, as is yours, with your theory of a large owner of the stock possibly exiting their position (which by all means, could be true). Goodness for sure!
As far as I know, doubt anyone on this board has that knowledge or influence on the stock prices movement. When I say insiders, i'm referring to those "invisible forces" that seem to make the stock price behave in an unusual manner right before news reaches the public. Or perhaps causes the price to progress in a certain direction only to halt its progression, then either to drop back, or rebound with no explanation in its coarse of action.
Of course, I could just be looking to deeply into conspiracies that dont exist...But, it does make one go hmmmm?
Also, it seems to me that the drop with Ariad was a little more extreme than what most other stocks in its sector went through. I'm not 100% sure on why the things happen to certain stocks, it just gets fishy that this drop takes place during a time when most (insiders) know there should not be any significant news due out until dec/jan etc.
An example as to inside forces. We were hovering around $25 When we received multiple upgrades in price targets ranging from $28-$31. We seemed to make it from high teens to mid twenties at a pretty good clip. upon those updated price targets, I for one thought that the so called experts low balled their target prices, and that we would achieve those targets momentarily. However, a month later, and now i'm questioning if in fact it will take up to a year to reach those prices. These people (insiders) do seem to know what will take place with the prices.
I dont think the two have to always mirror one another. Whether or not ariad does the opposite than the ibb, for me, reflects more on how lnside forces can try to affect the price.
well said...surprised that some of these noise makers have not called you a basher yet. maybe you need to make an observed statement about the stock, or simply just ask a question towards the company to receive that title.
I cant even begin to imagine how such a flushing in a company like ariad, could be occurring without any bad news driving it...The market seems to be one of the most illegally manipulated practices one can be involved in.
Last 19 trading days for ariad...
16 = red
3 = green
Thinking we would have 82.5% more negative days than positive since oct. 18, would have been ludicrous.
This decline doesn't seem to make any sense. And keep in mind the fall started right around the time we received positive updates and hasnt let up since then...senseless
Wow....just, wow....
At this point, we should be in a state of euphoria in terms of how Ariad is progressing. But as murphy's law suggest, the overall market has to spoil the fun yet again.
sorry about the typo error iandy. Did not mean to offend. was typing in a hurry.
Anyhow, i was responding to a post ariafan had for biotech_researcher. so not sure i understand what you are saying about everyone telling me it was the market and not the stock?
shouldn't have been blasted on thoughts dealing with this stock in this market. I for one think that most on this board want to see this stock succeed. But it is understandable with some of the comments being made lately. After all, the closer we've been getting to a possible approval, the more uncertain the stock price has been behaving.
Maybe iversan was on to something when he stated that we could see a double in price upon approval.
Asking questions about whats materializing in and around ariad, is not bashing.
you all have the right to do as you please. Unlike yourself, I have never told anyone on this board to take a certain course of action on any subject...We should be so privileged for your tutoring.
so you think its a strategic step in order for them to buy more shares at a lower price? As you pointed out, there was nothing about the science for pona or 113.
You did read my post, correct? There were questions? not answers.
The street has downgraded ariad from hold to sell? Did inside investors know this was coming, causing the recent downturn in share price? Or could this be a strategic step by them to buy more shares at a lower price?
Is all this talk on how much ownership novartis has over roche, a ploy to keep one's attention distracted from the real issue at hand...ariads recent price drop.
Bigger flush than whats been happening? Was there negative news that i missed?
Unfortunately, time to add at this price strategy, has occured alot more as of late.
For me, i cannot add at the moment, so i rather we would start to trend upright.
good luck to you and others as well.
I see what you are saying. was just trying to understand that statement from that poster.
about giving it a break, you do realize that other posters have been replying to my post, with specifics about my question towards another poster. I'm not the guilty party for responding to others such as yourself.
Besides these posts have been more entertaining, than whats been transpiring with the posts and stock price, as of late.
im not looking for concrete answers of what the stock price will do in the short term! i was just asking that particular poster why he feels the stock price will do what he thinks it will.
and about focusing on something else, I was addressing that particular poster about his expressed opinions. Don't recall asking for you to focus in and address my question to him.
Just was asking that poster why the stock price would double upon fda approval of pona and not a gradual climb up till that point.
everything you said is fine. and yes I've been holding this stock for what i think the future will hold. all i was questioning is why the stock price could double instantly as another poster pointed out.
lets take this upcoming conference call as an example. As far as I'm concerned, if the stock price does not start to pick up momentum prior to the call, it will be (in my opinion) updates on future development and not much more to make the price boom upwards 100%. Its what i have observed with this stock. A gradual trend upwards from the expectancies of what the company is maturing into.
If we're at $40 on a gradual climb in the next few months leading to a pona approval, or if we shoot to $40 from $20 the day of approval, makes no difference to me.
Simply put, my question to this poster is, why the double in price opposed to the gradual climb upwards.
if you read my post, in response to another poster, all i was asking is why that poster thought that the price could double instantly upon fda acceptance of pona. Because as i have stated, i have only seen this stock have a gradual week to week climb in share price and not a double in price in say, a day or two. thats all.
Not bashing the stock in any way. just pointing out what I've experienced with the stock up until now and why that pattern could change? and yes, i am disappointed as to whats happened with the price, the last 3 weeks.
When we were at 10. And went to 15. In a matter of weeks, is the same as me stating a gradual rise in price from week to week. And not a double in price in one day, as some suggest. And if you read my post in responce to another poster, is that it was i questioning why the share price would double upon approval. i guess i could say a number as to where the share price will be, but why? And based on what? Frankly i really dont know where the price is going to be, as some on this board seem so candid to tell us. All i did was state what i have seen the share price to have done in the past 4 years. No real surprises as far as a single day price spike of 50 percent plus. As i stated in my post, it seems that this share price has a gradual accend on a week to week basis, because investors seem to know whats coming weeks and months down the road. Really not criticizing, as opposed to wanting to distinguish reality from wishful thinking.
Please read my reply carefully. Then if your a true long to both ariad and this board, please tell me where my questions or statements have no merits.
I'm somewhat confused with your statement of blasting off soon, and thinking it could double. Before i continue, i will say that i hope you are correct! But as far as I'm concerned, and as long as i have held this stock, i have yet to see a real blast off in terms of a significant spike in share price. It seems as if this stock has a gradual week to week climb when ascending in value. Also, as most news concerning ariad goes, there hasn't been a real suprise that has caught investors off gaurd.
Having said that, isn't the fda approval of pona baked in? Aren't investors already anticipating this event. Im sure everyone would love to double up when it comes to making money. As i see it, investors would also think as you do and make this share price move gradually higher in anticipation as to what your saying. But alas, it is not. Please elaborate more with this statement of yours concerning the share price if and when pona is approved?
It very well could be. But as you stated it was just my thoughts or my 2 cents.
make an offering now around 20. From there the company will definitely have enough money to see pona and 113 through to marketing and become a stand alone co. The price will drop from the offering, but its no different than whats been happening with the price the past two weeks. The offering would be a sort of camouflage with the price drop as of late. Once the dust settles, the game will go on. The price will rebound if pona is accepted and we will have clear sailing with expenses from there on. Just my piece of mind.
down 8 days in a row and counting. At this point, an offering now could make the most sense
If today holds as is, that would make it seven days in a row in negative territory. And that's after encouraging updates! Can't recall ever seeing ariad having seven days in a row in the green.
I can understand we're down with the ibb, but we have been going down now every day this week. Jeez, how much more before we have a positive day?
I know you didn't say recently...I did.
9.98 this time last year. Not recently
Well said
im no expert in predicting future stock price. But if one is a true long, i think at this stage its safe to say ariad has a steady climb up...with occasional dips.
not sure what will be discussed with tomorrows presentations. hopefully the call will contain good news for the company moving forward. unfortunately for now, i do find the biggest jumps in share price usually take place on unannounced news.
Just my opinion, but i don't think todays market would be able to keep an upcoming positive catalyst with Ariad in the 24s.