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"But to each his own, it's your money."
if you believed your closing statement, you wouldn't have cared to ask the question in the first place.
its over. true longs prevailed. cease the ariad board games and move on with your life...as many here have already done.
biotechrocks Tuesday, 12/27/16 10:11:21 AM
Re: None
Post # of 79839
Big buys going on - as posted last week we will have good action in the last two weeks of the year as more new large investors will look to get in before year end (I had projected $13 before year end - and we're getting there). 1Q 2017 should see some BIG news and people want in prior to that.
biotechrocks Monday, 12/05/16 11:31:26 AM
Re: jbog post# 79334
Post # of 79839
Lets see what the value is after Wed. I suspect buying will pick up even more and maybe some additional short covering will get us past 14.5/15 by then.
Leakage from any substantiated buyout rumor will quickly get us close to 20 in my humble opinion.
did pona or brig get the axe? i don't care if it was the president of the u.s. or even god, how can someone speak negatively about a company and have this kind of impact on share price? everyday drops for a week and a half and counting?! down almost 40%?!?! seriously, is brig getting pulled? did ariads science get revoked? because the companies rise in share price, including as a buyout candidate, are still there, are they not?!
for f***s sake! sell the company already, and make that move towards stability!
denner as much of a f**k up as h.b. just sell the company already! ariad will never amount to stardom on its own!
"Accumulation keeps occurring... Big move up is coming soon. JMHO"
wrong again ss!
you agree?! his/her statement contradicts itself. there has been nothing but good news about ariad recently, and yet the price continues to fall (down 9 out of the last 11 trading days and counting). if the powers to be can control the share price to that extent, how could the share price exceed expectations in the future (maybe if there is a built in buyout price)? there will always be a bump in share price because of good news from time to time, but unless your a successful day trader, that price for a long will gradualy drift back down by the powers to be. a buyout or bust for longs is the only peace of mind.
there are posters here that would suggest that despite the recent good news about ariad the company, outside forces continue to hold down the share price. if that were truly the case and the price could be so easily manipulated by the wills of unseen forces, why the hell wouldn't anyone owning the stock oppose to wanting a buyout now, instead of later? if these outside forces have that much control over the perceived value of a stock, waiting for greater returns may not ever happen. stop living on message boards, get this company sold and move on with life.
ariad is one of the worst performing stocks. nothing ever seems to change that fact. yet, people not only continue to be surprised, but continue to invest in it. in terms for investment reward, which should take blame?...ariad the company, or the people who continue to hold long investment positions in ariad the unicorn?
"Heard it all?"? You ain't heard nothing yet. !"
get a grip…ihub, remember?
"The FACT that Mr. Martin J. Duvall, Chief Commercial Officer and Exec. VP of Ariad earns $717,000 per year, and holds ONLY 79,000 shares after selling 14,000 in Q4 2015 speaks VOLUMES!. He KNOWS how Iclusig is selling now!"
The fact that he is the CCO, A.K.A VP of sales, and now only owns 79,000 shares after disposing of 14,000 shares in Q4 is very disturbing to me. My guess is $25-$35 million in Q4 sales"
this statement is a good point…but what is your point? you constantly bring forth negative speculation about ariad to this board. can you elaborate on why you constantly take a negative posture towards ariad pharmaceuticals? what is your agenda? thank you
do not get caught up with individuals thoughts on this board when it comes to investments. they mean nothing and are always wrong.
do not think that the management team at ariad has messed up because of where the company stands today. management is quite happy in their situation over at ariad. they have been taking care of themselves quite nicely, with or without products out in the market. also, do not think the management team will be distraught from a total company collapse, they wont be. they'll move on. only the longs will lose, and management could not give a dam about joe long stock holder (welcome to the real world). for the company to have steadily continued to decline two years after the reinstating of pona, and now sits in the $4s as an average, clearly demonstrates that something has gone wrong with this company and may not be fixable.
be weary of any news or activities that may single another saving grace exit (for some newer and older suits), as a last ditch effort for them to score more by cashing out.
this company and its stock, has become extremely volatile. the uncertainty that surrounds ariad today, has become more alarming than before any approved drugs, or even after pona was pulled for that matter. its true burger was not a good leader, but what the hell is the new management's agenda? the share price seems to be making new 52 week lows on a daily basis. the short interest is climbing week to week. the hell kind of strategy is this for company value? even the presentation on the 24th can be interpreted as a bad sign, because of the 4:35pm time. after markets close?! this company has become very much a bizarro world.
"I truly can't wait until this thing gets sold. I just hope that it does happen and hopefully sooner than later."
how much time has one waisted in their lives waiting to enjoy the rewards from a sale of ariad? at this point, there is no more sooner. sooner went out the window a while ago. if this company gets sold tomorrow, it would be considered later. hopefully it would not be considered MUCH latter.
its snowing where i am. i was bored, and needed the laugh. thanks again for that. good luck with your investing.
sure they're not (wink)
at this point the BoD are irrelevant. replace them with the best in the business and it won't make a difference. the damage has been done. sale or bankruptcy remain.
i disagree. i believe 90% are here for the message board. you are not forced into participating with a message board in any fashion, if you own stock.
as for the hostile takeover, can you explain how that works and why any company would even consider ariad for a hostile takeover? if not, continue to engage in message boards as you choose to.
barclays said what?! blasphemy!…what do they know?! our precious ariad, will "SOON" be a trillion $$$ company!
has ariad become one of the many scam companies found on the nyse? seems the logic for this company to succeed after 2plus years of nothing, just isn't happening. no communications, delays, staff leaving the company, new ceo, no sale, etc. yet, the upper management/bod, keep making money. when does "soon" for investors get replaced with "enough"? hopefully not when its to late
aria…the stock of broken dreams
realistically, ariad the company will not answer any legitimate question, that reflects the companies future finances and intentions honestly. that is a guarantee!
but your effort with the ihub posters will be much appreciated. so at the very least, you have that going for you.
not from this board. people on this board would have you believe something big will take place "soon". yet the insiders are selling. guess they didnt want to wait for a bigger pay out…that makes sense. as the posters here repeat themselves over and over again about the impending success ariad will "soon" have, the share price is not far off from the share price after the collapse of 2013. almost two years ago! how is that for being better off than in 2013! but as the year gets closer to an end, the posters will start mentioning that 2016 will be the year, finally! just like they said about 2015, 2014, 2013, 2012, 2011, 2010, etc.
obsession can be fatal.
so ariad rejected bxlt $10.+ offer, and they get punished with the share price dropping 30%?…sh**, i wish the real world worked like that, when placing an offer for a car or house that doesn't meet the asking price….funny
you know when you realize that you don't have a life?... when you take what this board says personally.
if this were a buyout leak (won't believe it till i see it), why hasn't the trading for ariad halted?
Both comments are valid points (for a change). bigger question is what is denners mind set. Why would denner remove burger, if the goal was to go it alone? This stock has had so many head scratching twist and turns throughout the years, I have developed a much better sense of investment skills. studying such a unique investment case like ariad will do that for you.
like harvey before him, denner reads like a book. they both want to build legacies at any cost. both are greedy, except in much different ways. harvey wanted to reach his bio legacy through the only way he knew how, long term dedication and fraud. unlike burgers long term aspirations with ariad, denner needs a quick turnaround at the most maximum, in order for him to start achieving his deceitful rise in wall st lore.
both strategists ways could make money. except in this long played out story, its time for denners way to put the end in this sad chapter.
logic has prevailed!
so called "investors" on message boards only hear from other (ahem) investors from the message boards. if you polled the common people that walk the streets every day, after telling them about ariads story and which way they would vote if given the chance, 9 out of ten (if not better) would jump at the chance to at least double their money from here and be done with uncertainty moving forward. cashing out and at least doubling your money asap, has the same perception as voting for denner. there are million(s) more ariad investors (not just from the meaningless message boards) that actually have a say with how this story will end. like i used to say, logic should prevail.
the buy out price from the article reflects pona alone. does not include the other two drugs in their pipeline (no market values discussed as of yet, with outside investors and editors concerning pipeline), or any other company assets that ariad may hold…message boards need to grow up
oh, the irony…in terms of business, the harv as ariads ceo, has become what his company is trying to eradicate.
other than you mentioning a potential buyout of ariad, have you stated any other definitive reason to be invested in ariad this past year?
"I agree selling off '113 globally (US and EU specifically) is lunacy."
either 113 should solely be theirs, or the whole company should be sold off for a better return.
"What I don't get, is that the so called turn around experts that aren't calling for HB's head. This 'turnaround' isn't turning around with the same thinkers at the top that got us here."
at this point, this whole situation with burger and investing in ariad, feels like a twilight zone episode. the idea with any investment is to make money. i can't see how any high stake ariad investor, is not thinking about the best way to capitalize on their weakened investment. it is absurd to think that a big time investor would even consider giving in to a selfish ceo and not want whats best for themselves. i truly believe something must be transpiring with ariads situation behind the scenes. my 2 cents
building "shareholder value" does not work any more harvey. why have you not committed to sell? are you really going to demonstrate that much transparency in your own agenda?!
lets think for a minute. last year after the crash (and worst off than we are now), there was a false speculation piece, that informed of a possible acquisition of ariad. that buyout rumor alone, shot the price in the mid $9 range. thats close to $10, and we only just got pona reinstated at the time! in the past year since then, we have drifted up and down, but no higher than in the mid $7. i think a buyout would be a handsome reward for all involved. hell, the speculation of a real deal now would be enough for most to bail out happily! but the company is still trying to go it alone, barely staying above $6?!?!?
the idea of harvey continuously informing investors that they were building ariad as a stand alone company, did have appeal for a potentially greater reward for shareholders.
the crash changed everything for those dreams and rewards. but with the crash wiping out a stand alone, that did not mean that ariads pipeline nor committed investors should suffer as much. there was (is?) a way for some redemption and forward progress. logic of such a fail, would have been salvaged in a buyout. continuing its pursuit for life saving drugs and still rewarding the loyal investors.
the idea to continually promote a demoralized and struggling company (since the 13 crash) as essentially a future standalone, is simply not acceptable. any laid out plan since the crash, that does not involve a buyout, has shown corruption and disrespect to all loyal investors and patients alike. there is no other reason at this point, for the company to continue on with their stand alone struggles, other than having someone like harvey as your undisputedly selfish and ego driven ceo .
"The biggest problem faced by ALL shareholders, institutional and individual, is if Denner gets fed up, takes whatever profit he has and goes away."
not so true. if denner walks, the price would still go up if harvey leaves right after him. at this point, its all about harveys direction
until further developments ensue, the company now fully belongs to harvey and his inner circle. also day and short traders both large and small
as sad as it may be, analysts and price movers do not focus in on what potential ariad may have with their science any more. they now dissect and focus not on how the latest press release from ariad benefits the company's future, but rather how it affects the ceo's future. thats why since the reinstatement of pona, the price has always gone down after the company releases optimistic news…potential is not there with harvey in place. plain and simple
you don't get it? because everything that is being announced or released by the company up to this point, is for harvey to stay in power for as long as he can, no matter what the cost. the company has always been about him and his legacy! before the crash, an observation like that would have been debatable. but since the crash over a year ago, there is no debate! he has been exposed to the fullest degree of selfishness. thus the controlled press releases and drop in share price. always a drop in share price!