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Thanks for the update guys I really hope you all are right. I have a lot of confidence in this one.
Good to see you posting chocking-dog. I am still holding another one right now, but if that one pans out I will be getting a BIG position in this one at these prices. 2 mil or so.
We are going to have some millionares come out of this stock...thats nuts.
Is all the longs still holding till .006-.05? Just curious.
If the merger hits that is when the PPS will sky rocket but that will have to happen first. I don't think it will go to much over the .001 mark until then.
JMHO
I think you missed the boat. With this new merger they will probably see a penny before its over. IMO
Its a pink sheet they dont have to file an 8K unless they have very good reason to.
Dogcatcher is the man! Very reliable.
I have my sell order in for .01. I am liking what I am seeing. GLTA
I think it is hilarious how you just happened to jump on this forum right when stocklemon.com posts that information.
A must read about Stock Bashers (unknown author)
How to recognize Stock bashers on Message boards, newsgroups and in chat rooms. its too long but you got to read it.
LEARNING is a process and an evolution. Learning is not all fluff. Learning is a process of awareness and unfolding development; one must be willing to work at it though.
A year ago when I asked broker friends of mine if the internet message boards will have any affect on a stock. They ALL laughed at me and said those idiots having an affect on a stock!
A truth: IT IS EASIER TO SCARE PEOPLE INTO SELLING THAN IT IS TO INFORM PEOPLE INTO BUYING A STOCK.
Well I asked those same friends this last week, and the answer from all YES! message boards and ""shorts" (some) can manipulate with lies, and deceit.
Now think about that, you have elderly that invest and find their way to the message boards only to see false posts about "SEC Violations" and "Class action suits" or you have a Yuppie with a kid to put in college going to these message boards only to see posts by 15-20 (probably 5 or 6 under alias) "pack of shorts" posting the same false stuff about SEC Violations or lawsuits or "there's bad news coming out" ....what do you think they will do ?
It's easier to sell the stock and put the money into the bank for nervous people like the elderly and the Yuppie who needs college funds. THAT'S WHO THE PACK OF SHORTS PRAY ON AND DEPEND ON. They bet on a stock to go down-not up! Understand? And they have just as much money and risk as you. But they have the edge of fear, lies, falsehoods to post and pray on the nervous. Longs don't have that.
Lesson 1: Remember, BASHERS NEVER BASH A BAD STOCK. Watch the board for stocks with no potential. They never have any bashers. Bashers only go after stocks that are going upwards or have excellent potential to go up. Bashers get left behind, so they want to bring the price down.
Lesson 2: BASHERS ALWAYS BRING UP OLD NEWS THAT YOU HAVE HEARD MANY TIMES. New startup companies always have a few bits of bad news. The basher will post this over and over again. The stupid basher will try to make the old news a bit fresher to try to fool you.
Lesson 3: BASHERS POST MANY TIMES A DAY. They try to wear you out. They comment on everything, every other post, and can answer every question. THEY KNOW IT ALL! There is no positive comment they won't bash. They try to control the board. True longs may have to address the bashers or they will appear to the newbies as being the people with all the information.
Lesson 4: BASHERS WILL LIE TO YOUR FACE. Never trust a basher. The truth on startup companies is that many mistakes are made and losses happen. The basher will try to make you believe all startup companies make a profit, release financials every quarter and all aspects of the business run smoothly. THIS IS NOT TRUE. THE BASHERS LIE TO YOU. Startup companies can go years without profits, financials and good business, this is the nature of the beast.
Lesson 5: The bashers know YOU CAN'T VERIFY THEIR STATEMENTS. That's why they make the statements they do.
Lesson 6: The bashers PLAY ON YOUR LACK OF KNOWLEDGE. They can lie about information and you couldn't know the difference (unless you have done your assessment of the company and know the truth and facts).
Lesson 7: Bashers play on your lack of patience. YOU have held a penny stock for a while. You knew it will be a big penny stock someday, but the BASHER CAN GET TO YOU BECAUSE YOU ARE TIRED OF WAITING FOR YOUR GAIN . That's when the basher is best. You are tired. You have forgotten the goal for the penny stock was to hold it for one year. The basher is bothersome, so you dump it on a bad day. Some others also dump. Then you get mad for your loss and return to let everyone know how mad you are. Then you turn into a basher as well. THE BASHER HAS WON, AND GAINED A NEW PARTNER TOO, to be able to get in at a great price.
Lesson 8: BRING THE PRICE DOWN. That is the basher's job. The truth is not important. Lies are the norm. Post continuously on the board every day. They are trying to hit the newbies visiting the board. They are trying to wear out the longs on the board. They do whatever it takes to wear the longs out.
Lesson 9: BASHERS WILL TRY TO CREATE DOUBT AND GET YOU TO RESEARCH ITEMS THAT THEY KNOW WILL LEAD TO THE CREATION OF DOUBT IN YOU AND IN OTHER STOCKHOLDERS. A typical trick of an advanced basher is to propose that there is a potential "problem" because "we" don't have the facts on a particular subject. The basher dares someone in the group to find out the answer to the question. The basher already knows the answer; the basher already knows what will be found. The power of this tactic is that the basher is now in control of the actions of the stockholders; the basher has you, the stockholder doing HIS/HER due diligence and when you, the stockholder come back to the group with a questionable finding then the basher gains credibility. What to do??? Solution??? Well, I think it's important to find answers but on your own terms. I actually pick up the phone and call the company and talk to the investor relations person or the CEO until I get a satisfactory answer. The problem here is that the advanced basher has you doing his bidding and his work; you have essentially joined his ranks. So, develop your own little Due Diligence package and answer questions by placing the information into the package and referring all new investors to read the answers to questions raised in the Investor Information package but DON'T GET INTO A CONVERSATION WITH THE BASHER REGARDING THE TOPIC. THAT IS WHERE YOU LOSE. DON'T CONVERSE WITH THE BASHER; ANSWER INDIRECTLY; DON'T USE THE BASHERS NAME; DON'T GET INTO A PERSONALITY CONTEST.
A BASHERS HANDBOOK: know the enemy who wishes to steal your money! Do not underestimate a bashers influence on a stock. The Pro's are good at what they do and what they do is profit from your losses. Below is their "hand-book" so to speak. Learn from it or donate your money to those who make an organized plan to steal your money!
BASHERS DO THE FOLLOWING:
1. Be anonymous
2. Use 10% fact. 90% suggestion. The facts will lend credibility to your suggestions.
3. Let others help you learn about the stock. Build rapport and a support base before initiating your bashing routine.
4. Enter w/ humor and reply to all who reply to you.
5. Use multiple ISP's, handles and aliases.
6. Use two (2) or more aliases to simulate a discussion.
7. Do not start with an all out slam of the stock. Build to it.
8. Identify your foes (hypesters) and the boards "guru" Use them to your advantage. Lead them do not follow their lead.
9. Only bash until the tide/momentum turns. Let doubt carry it the rest of the way.
10. Give the appearance of being open minded.
11. Be bold in your statements. People follow strength.
12. Write headlines in caps with catchy statements.
13. Pour it on as your position gains momentum. Not your personality.
14. Don't worry about being labeled a "basher". Newbies won't know your history.
15. When identified put up a brief fight, then back off. Return in an hour unless your foe is a weak in reasoning powers.
16. Your goal is to limit the momentum of the run. Not to tank the company or create a plunge in the stock; be subtle and consistent.
17. Kill the dreams of profits, not the company or the stock.
18. Use questions to create critical thinking. Statements to reinforce facts.
19. DO NOT LIE, DO NOT NAME CALL and DO NOT USE PROFANITY.
20. Encourage people to call the company. 99% won't. They'll take your word for claims made. If they do call you can always find something that is inaccurate in how they report their findings.
21. Discourage people for taking the companies word for anything. Encourage them to call the company. They won't out of laziness.
22. If the companies history/PR's are negative constantly point to that. Compile a list of this data prior to beginning your efforts.
23. If the price rises blame it on the hype or the PR, temporary mass reaction, the market, etc. Anything but the stock itself.
24. If other posters share your concerns, play on that and share theirs too.
25. Always cite low volume, even when it's not.
26. Three or four aliases can dominate a board and wear down the longs.
27. Bait the hypesters into personal debates putting their focus/efforts on you and not the stock or facts. Divert their attention from facts. Show them the facts from a "different angle."
28. Promote other stocks that would-be investors can turn to instead of the one your bashing.
30. Do not fall for challenges on the "values" of what you are doing, it's a game and you are playing it with your own rules.
GRADE YOUR FAVORITE BASHER:
Advanced Basher:
Will join the message board early and actually "pump" the stock with positives; this basher is very intelligent, has the facts of the company, actually helps longs with Due Diligence and generally gets the confidence of the stockholders. Then, when the stock hits their price, the tone will change and they will start asking longs to check into this and check into that. The seeds of doubt are being planted. This basher will then start using all the tactics listed on this page to create seeds of doubt. ALWAYS LOOK AT THE PROFILE OF A PERSON YOU SUSPECT. ASK WHAT STOCKS THEY'VE "SUPPORTED" IN THE PAST AND CHECK OUT THE MESSAGE BOARD. An honest person will have a positive track record that can be followed. I strongly believe that a contrary view is needed but this person is out to steal your money and does it by deception and creates fear after gaining confidence! BEWARE, this is the most clever basher and the hardest to spot.
Grade A Basher:
Posts lots of old news, responds to all positive posts with a negative side. Never responds to being called a basher, never posts on another board. Can spend up to 80 hours a week bashing a stock.
Grade B Basher:
Very good way with words, always claims to be your "friend" taking the positive poster into confidence, never posts on another board, spends about 60 hours a week.
Grade C Basher:
Spends less time than the others but is somewhat effective and gets a C grade due to getting excited when bashers rules say not to get excited, spends about 40 hours a week.
Grade D Basher:
Needs to learn the basics about being convincing when making a negative statement. Spends a good amount of time working the stock, maybe 20 hours a week. Grade F Basher: A complete idiot, most readers are not convinced he knows anything about stocks in general. The type that says a stock "sucks", but gives no rationale, shows up every so often but no regular schedule.
WHY BASH?: MONEY (the usual reason), SPORT, ENTERTAINMENT. Some bashers are compelled to bash because they are inherently a part of the dark side of life so they must do it. It's a sad fact but never the less, a fact. It's life so you must learn how to deal with it or become a victim!
LEARN ABOUT HOW STOCK BASHERS WORK: how they are paid: (this was written by a basher) I know the following from a "friend" who needed extra money. I never answer a basher directly because I then become a basher's little money machine. IGNORE THEM FOLKS...how bashers are paid: When you REPLY to bashers you give them an opportunity to earn 5-7 bucks. The service agreement they enter into with their employer states their messages will be monitored for content, profanity, lies, etc. but Money Manager's and the like don't have the time to check all their bashers messages. Only occasional spot checks are done. Those who manage the basher will generally read the headlines to see if a basher is replying to other posters by name. That tells them the basher isn't just "posting blindly" or repeating the same message over and over since they won't pay for those. A basher will attempt to milk three to five replies per post at one to two dollars each. This way the basher spreads negative influence to as many stockholders as possible. A basher will create this discussion thread because it takes less time reading more messages than is necessary. This ultimately allows the basher more time to post and make money. In general, NEVER ENGAGE A BASHER. Make them read all the posts and think up ways to enter the discussion.
NEVER ENGAGE A STOCK BASHER; if you do so then YOU BECOME THE BASHER'S AID!
Read the news, do your own homework and make your own decisions. Get real time quotes and follow the stock for a couple of weeks. Due Diligence is key here. Know that there will be a time when the stock runs up which will be followed by the Bashers and those that missed the boat. The bashers will trash the stock by saying such things as "it's a Pump and Dump" and "the company is lying" and deceiving. There goal is to scare off newbies and potential new investors by "shaking" you out of your shares. Take the time to confirm your Due Diligence, ,trust your own judgment and believe in yourself, pick your point of return or loss and live with it. Don't listen to hype or bashers and live by the rules you have created.
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I completely agree with you. He has no idea what he is talking about, yet someone will come on this board not knowing either and will listen to what he is saying. The float on this stock is basically gone that is why there are no shares available to buy unless you buy at .02 or above. The same reason the price can change a penny in 1 bid. My opinion there are a lot of MM NSS that will have to majorly cover when SPZI starts to run. It's always that way on pink sheets.
JMHO
I hope that is the case because I will buy them all after it goes below a penny. Start looking for some form 4's if this thing drops below a penny. Think what you want but I see this being a dollar stock this time next year. The product and the management is very capable.
What your position in this anyway? Did you buy at 4 cents? Almost everyone that was posting on this board predicted only 5 cents if it was a smooth launch which in this case was not, but that doesn't mean the company is a failure it just means they got set back a tad. If you are a day trader your in the wrong stock. They are not going to put out PR's just to be putting out PR's they will release news when it is significant the CEO already stated that.
JMHO
I am pumped about the over 100 million shares that were aquired using 2 form 4's in mid March!!! Go baby Go!
Or illegal NSS.
Thank you for backing me up on that one. I don't understand why OTCBuzz has to make this so complicated. In case he doesn't know the company tells the T/A to issue or retire shares. The T/A doesn't tell the company, sorry it doesn't work that way. The CEO/Board makes that decision.
It means all the O/S are being held and the float is low.
Apparantly you don't know what your talking about so maybe you should quit telling other people they don't know what their talking about.
Its up to the company to update the T/A. The company knows the A/S, O/S, and float before T/A does. Do you not realize the T/A gets the info from the company? The company has to send the T/A certs in order to get the A/S correct. Maybe that hasn't happened yet and that is why the T/A does not have 73 million. When you retire shares certs have to be sent to the T/A.
Okay thanks.
Whats the lead time for that process a few days, a few months?
Anyone had luck getting their divvy through Ameriturd?
What about the other way around? The company retired 33 million shares but the T/A thinks they still exist. On the 10SQB it says 73 million but the T/A is telling everyone 106 million.
Hey Janice you and Jim are sharp on this. Is the T/A always correct on the number of A/S, O/S, and Float? Also, if the T/A is saying one thing but the SEC 10QSB is saying something else which is correct? Is it possible that the T/A has not yet updated the records? Thanks for your help.
If I am not mistaken that one went from 5 cents to where it is today.
What's up guys and gals? I don't know if you have looked at this but this looks good to me. This is a link to pinksheets.com and take a look at the form 4's filed at the end of March! Sweet!!
http://www.pinksheets.com/quote/filings.jsp?symbol=JPHC
Here is your answer to number 4. Sorry these documents don't lie. The SEC would have already figured that out. Sorry.
http://yahoo.brand.edgar-online.com/fetchFilingFrameset.aspx?dcn=0001137171-06-000363&Type=HTML
As far as the answer to number 5 if I have a signed PO in my hand I don't care who helped me to get it as long as I got it. There in the business of making money just like me. If anyone should know about doing it illegally it should be the short sellers of this stock.
Read my previous post folks. Don't listen to these guys that are bashing this one. If you don't believe the company then call in on the conference call and ask the questions. Do your own DD not listen to someone else's.
http://www.investorshub.com/boards/read_msg.asp?message_id=10664610
I am glad I got to make your all’s Easter Weekend! Unless you are shorting this stock (buzzard). Sorry.
Have a great weekend everyone!
I hope we see one because I will be upset if it is not issued. That is what the guy told me. Well see I guess.
Okay folks. If you want the truth about this company you need to listen. I talked with the assitant to the president of STTK and here are the questions I asked and his answers. The number I called was in Californa it was the "T" number on their website. Now this is not the exact wording of the conversation I didn’t have a tape recorder.
1)
Q: Is STTK going to release anything else about the stocklemon.com website? Shareholders have been worried about the information released.
A: Yes we currently have our attouneys involved and will be releasing a link to get detailed information to the lawsuit and the progress of the lawsuit. We are filing a lawsuit agianst stocklemon.com.
2)
Q: When is the China contract going to be confirmed?
A: It is confirmed STTK has the PO to do the work we are currently waiting on China to tell us how they want to approach the issue. In other words when you purchase a car do you want power windows and power locks or do you want the navigation system.
3)
Q: What about this Goodwin Wang guy? There are rumors he is fradulant?
A: STTK does not know if he is the same guy we have not researched his history. What we do know is he introduced us to high power people in China and delivered everything he promised. STTK just wanted to get a contract signed with China so we can start doing the work. As far as STTK is concerned Goodwin done everything he promised.
4)
Q: What is the share count and what is the insider holdings?
A: The shares authorized is 73 million and the insiders hold 48 million “restricted shares”. The float is around 25 million.
He also stated that a PR will be released later today that states their will be a conference call for all interested shareholders sometime next week. No details of the conference call or the exact time but this is the information I got. IMO this company will turn around.
I am holding my shares and potentially adding more.
Hope this helps everyone.
Nice post!
Well being that they are a pink sheet they don't have to, but it would seem to their advantage that they would report with gains like this. Pink sheets are so frustrating because everything may look great but investors shy away from putting money into them due to the amount of scams that are out there. The big question will be are they planning to move to the OTC or higher anytime soon? If so they could skyrocket, otherwise it will be unstable with a lot of short term day traders and risk takers. You don't find that many long term holders in a pink sheet. IMO
Well you could be right on this one. I spend some time at the marketwatch boards and their are some predicting a dollar in 6 months. This could be true the only trouble with this is it is a pink sheet.
Not to happy about this one right now I want to see this run. I don't think we will see it though until some valid information is released. A conffirmation of the China contract would be great!
Nothing like having an end of day tank.
When I called this number I asked for investor relations and they gave me another number out of Chicago and said to contact Peter Nasca. The number was 312-421-0723. Has anyone else experienced this? When I called that number I got voice mail.
I don't know if any of you guys are looking at the level 2's but there is huge bid volume at .65 and up where as the ask volume is small. It leads me to believe that there are many more buyers than sellers. JMHO
The only problem with a suit against stocklemon is that a stock always dips when that type of announcement is made.
Does anyone have the number to IR for STTK? I will give them a call and ask if any of teh contracts are confirmed yet and what if anything are they going to do about stocklemon.com other than their PR release.
Any other questions you all want me to ask?
You do quite a bit of option tading Gate? Just went to the link at the bottom of the page and noticed you were talking about calls and puts. Never got into to options because I don't have a real good understanding on how they work. Good luck though.