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Lets face the truth here... few people want to be heroes on this stock right now....everyone who has stock is keeping their stock...the sellers are from people not on the message boards...when news come out the same people who are afraid to buy stock now will be eager to pay 50% higher prices later...human nature. And a T-Master says (paraphrasing him) the remaining nervous nellies will also be the first ones selling once they get to their breakeven point above .0239 (and higher).
TP
BTW congrats on becoming a moderator.
TP
What is everybody worried about around here.
As I have stated many times an army of one is not going to prevent any army of hundreds from driving up the price of a stock if they really want to do it.
So again, if you think I'm short (which I'm not) go ahead and squeeze me till I cry uncle. Otherwise you'll just have to wait for the next PR and your bretheren for a chance to move the stock higher.
Just go thru his Form 4's and read the descriptions.
I'll give you one example:
http://secfilings.nasdaq.com/filingFrameset.asp?FileName=0001368072%2D08%2D000003%2Etxt&FilePath=%5C2008%5C03%5C28%5C&CoName=ANTS+SOFTWARE+INC&FormType=4&RcvdDate=3%2F28%2F2008&pdf=
That is an opinion. Are you a lawyer? Are you representing Kozak? Sure sounds like it.
<That is not my opinion. You lied for selfish ends>
Beat me to it.
I see we lost a moderator (azguitarist).
Website back up again....nothing new added.
Why is the date set up on GMT (Greenwich Mean Time)? Why not on EST (for Ohio)? Strange.
I suppose that's your own opinion. I do remember that Joe was a master of repricing his own options as the share price plummeted but in the end it didn't matter because the share price just had mind of it's own. I think Joe did enough damage on his own to cast himself in a bad light.
Guess it's up to you to believe what you want to believe. Doesn't change the fact that the stock price is at two cents and if you want to use me as the fall guy to justify why you held onto the stock for so long by all means do so.You should never fall in love with a company or it's stock. We may both think we know exactly what's going on with Ants but only Kozak and Kautzmann know where the skeletons are buried..and I'll give Doc the benefit of the doubt since he has to dig them all up. It's probably going to take Doc a lot longer than he planned to resusitate the patient.
<and the point is you lied about Joe to try and cast a him in a bad light and by extension, the company>
Don't have anything to say.
Don't know what TH and company are waiting for. Maybe they are waiting for the Mayan deadline to pass before proceeding with their plan.
Mafia..what happened to the Ants website?
Now you're getting it.
Remember all those people that posted you couldn't buy at the bid?
O<KAY. ALL my 100k at the bid got filled but registered as sell order. So, if you bot at the bid, it will register as sell. If you buy at the ask, it will register as a buy. On the other hand, if you sell at the ASK, and it got filled it should register as a BUY, all else being equal. I get it, DAH!>
You need a back up broker. There's probably someone who is line ahead of you.
Anyone else having a hard time getting into the Ants Software web page right now? I smell something is up. Couple that with the wrong date on the web page yesterday.......
edit: The site is back up but the CEO Corner page now won't load.....
Another guy who can't understand how OTC markets work and how trades are reported within the iHub trade platform.
Someone is loading up at .021 .
I wonder who that can be...lol.
For people saying that the float is locked up we are still seeing
50K buy at .022
19.2K buy at .0219
85K buy at .0219
The shares are out there and can be bought despite people saying that it's difficult to buy.
Wowza even picked up shares this morning at .019 .
You have to continually ask yourself where these shares are coming from.
I wonder if Ants ever collected on the revenue sharing program that it had in place with Four J's.
The updated filings, if they ever happen, should show this revenue.
<In May 2008, we sold certain technology and intellectual property
related to our first product, the ANTs Data Server ("ADS"), to Four Js
Development Tools, Inc. As part of a revenue-sharing arrangement we will receive
50% of the revenue earned by Four J's in our previously executed reselling
agreement with IBM. The revenue-sharing agreement terminates in May 2012.>
Why has the date on the Ants Software web page been reading October 22 since the late morning (today is the 21st)? Did they load up a page that will be released on the 22nd? Strange.
Rbbb...how long ago did I say that?
<even going to the point of telling lies, such as when you said Joe was selling stock while telling Investors it was a good bet.>
If i ever told investors it was a good bet, I was probably saying it with grain of sarcasm.
What was your screen name on Yahoo?
You know I know the answers.
So why ask the questions?
Everyone is going to get rich.
TP
Well he lost $2.98 per share didn't he?
You may need to get your smelling check out.
What can't you admit that I was right from that point in time to now?
You certainly assume a lot.
As mentioned many times on this board I had a very good acquaintence tried to get me into this stock at 3. After looking at it, I had to question his judgement. I told him I thought he would lose everything but he insisted that I was the fool and couldn't see the value of the company. Now he doesn't even bring it up when we speak. Who knows how hundreds of thousands of dollars he lost. Then coincidentally, months later, IBM came a calling tried to sell the conversion software and I sat in on a meeting where the software failed during the demonstration and the meeting had to be cancelled. IBM was embarrassed because they were showing off what they thought was fixed software that had failed weeks earlier at other presentations. And that was the last we ever heard of Ants in the marketplace. This was explained inless detail to rbb in a post weeks ago.
I hope the Doc has fixed everything. If done correctly and it works during demonstrations then the potential is certainly there. Software seems to have a mind of its own as we all know.
<Tiger I was not referring to you when I said short. I even said you are long ANTS. So I guess, I can call you unhappy investor because, you are probably like one of my source who have been with ANTS for 10 plus years and did nothing but loose money>
On the OTC markets shares are double counted.
You are selling to a market maker and the market maker is selling to a buyer.
This is not the NYSE where specialists pair up orders buyer to seller.
Try googling the subject and read all about.
There were people who SOLD shares and there were people who BOUGHT shares. So maybe two million shares were bought over the past two weeks and two million were sold. You are looking at total volume I think.
That's what happens when you use logic .
Many of you think the float is locked up.
However you have several hedge funds that are probably itching to get out if the stock moves higher. Then all of a sudden you have millions of shares coming on the market.
Your best case scenario is if one of the funds is or has been selling over the past few weeks. That would explain why there seems to be enough shares for others to buy.
I'm that guy and I clearly listed it as my speculation and I told you that is how I was going to play it.
So go bash me over at that board. Because in the end I know you are going to wind up saying you bought the stock too.
TP
<You and that guy made up the rumor of the R/M and you both believed it>
Very few people are buying Ants at the .02 level.
T-Master,catsclaw, wowza and a couple others.
Perhaps everybody else on this board already has their full complement of shares and need others to drive the price higher even while they scream that the stock is going higher, way higher.
Many are super bullish on this board. If you were sure the stock was going 15x, 25x, or 50x higher from the current price I would think you would be buying like crazy, yet only a few people are. The words of the board are not matching up with the recent price movement of the stock (and I'm not talking since .005....I'm speaking of the last few weeks).
T-master, catsclaw, wowsa orders show up when they claim. IMO those guys (or girls) are the one's laying it out on the line right now trying to make you guys rich. And by the looks of things, many of you are letting them do all the heavy lifting to get you there. I admire them for trying to suck up shares. But then again shares continue to be sold to them even though many think that none are available.
Thanings that make you go hmmm!
This is a funny statement. The only people that would be short this stock are the market makers. With only a couple dozen trades per day on this stock and with the orders in front of them they could position their orders to make money. And not much. No retail guy is going to sit there unexposed and let a MM jack up the price, especially at two cents.
Please come up with a better excuse as to why this stock is not moving higher.
<How the hell can you believe these ppl. They are short and they would do everything they can to scare you so that they can make their very very very tiny pprofit. Trust me, Ive short pennies before, too little profit to make for me. i am not wasting too much effort for a few bucks>
I can't be a devil's advocate? Do I always have to be called a disgruntled ex-employee if i don't agree with people's opinions? Can I call you a disgruntled ex-employee because you don't agree with me?
<TIGER is a disgruntle ex-employee or something. Its more personal for him to attack ANTS.>
Looks like T-Master and others are having no problem getting shares at .02 .
Why makes you think it difficult getting shares?
You can't what? Buy?
T-Master and others have been doing this the last two weeks. If you are talking about a single block, probably not. BUt other here have claimed they have bought close to (or more) thatn 500K shares in the past few weeks.
<You can't 500K shares if you tried.>
BTW, going back to Reimer.
The Ants PR spells it Reimer. The fake Raging Bull post spells it Riemer. That's the difference IMO. If you believe everything on the Ants Software website you have to believe they spelled Tom's name correctly to.
Just to prove that the "antsnews" posting on Raging Bull is a fake, all you have to do is a take a look at how Tom Reimer spells his name vs the way "antsnews" spelled it.
From the CEO corner blog on the Ants website:
"ANTs is pleased to announce the appointment of Mr. Tom Reimer as ANTs Shareholder Liaison. Please direct all shareholder questions to Mr. Reimer at 937-436-3742. Mr. Reimer is an ANTs shareholder and has been involved with ANTs for twenty years. Mr. Reimer reports to Dr. Kautzmann directly"
From "antsnews":
By: antsnews
18 Oct 2012, 08:05 PM CDT
Rating: post rating 0
If you have any question my name is Tom Riemer I am the Ants shareholder liasion.I can be reached at the number listed on the CEO corner.
http://www.ants.com/index.php/ants-ceo-s-corner
Thank You
Tom Riemer
Ants Shareholder Liasion
Talk about trying to deceive and scare posters on a message board. The Raging Bull bulls should be ashamed of themselves for having to resort to this tactic. If the Doc wants to make an example out of someone it should be this Raging Bull jokester.
Wow, thanks for that vote of confidence.
<In other words it's extremely doubtful that Tiger is Joe>
I would be a little incredulous about that poster "antsnews" who stumbled when a responder replied to his original post saying that the responder should speak to Tom Riemer directly.
Wasn't the implication of this original post that it was Tom Riemer himself that was 'antsnews'?
Now it appears that 'antsnews' is not Tom but someone masquerading as Tom.
I really hope that it was Tom and he is just learning how to use the boards but company officials commenting on message boards are a dangerous thing.
Until I see real numbers..i.e. audited financials or current SEC 10-Q filings come from Ants, then every $ of future revenue or profit is just a promise. The stock is up based upon the perception that big things will really happen to sales and profits. To date, there has been zero confirmed sales, just the prospect of sales (A PR saying you are starting a job in Nov doesn't mean you have confirmed sales right now...it just means you are a sub-contractor to a contract that hasn't yet started). One means everything to the price of the stock, one means everything to survival of the company.
I want the company to prove me wrong. I want Kautzmann to succeed despite what many around here think. It's a big job and things always take longer than you first anticipate and I think the Doc has learned his lesson from earlier PR's.
<As I said, ANTS is up 500% because of significant events currently happening in the company. not BS promises. I love the way you try to twist things up.>
Can you lay on the lather a little thicker?
Tying a Jobs & Buffett like personality to Ants is really stretching it.
If military experience is factor in leading companies, why aren't a vast majority of companies in this country led by commanding (or high ranking) officers?
It's more important to the long term survival of the company that Ants delivers on it's promises rather than making more promises and not keeping them. But even i realize that making promises via news releases is what drives a penny company stock price. And that's how most people are playing this stock right now IMO.
While you guys slap the ask you should probably also watch the bid.
I thought you were the one who said we can't look backwards at this company and we have to concentrate on looking ahead.
<ANTS 2009-2010 weekly chart. A whopping 1300% gain in a year:)))>
Good catch!
<•Negotiating alliances with major Ohio Universities for already funded Ph.D. interns for assignment to ANTS advanced architecture projects.>
At that point in time, there wasn't much left in CZ's Ants portfolio. He only had a couple hundred thousand more to lose. It was almost zero.
<but a single individual investor might be a bit too much. I am speculating that CZ>
I don't recall ever hearing about that one or reading it on this board.
<He also said that he was getting free labor from OSU for engineering internship>.
The expected dates of the filing keep getting pushed back further and further on this board. First it's Oct, then Nov., now it's the end of the year. All Doc needs to do is file the first 10-Q dated Oct. 2011. But if JK refuses to give up documents to complete the filing, then it's going to be a long wait.
<I would be very surprised if we dont have filings by year end>
The funding stopped as of the end of July per his CEO Corner blog. No more mention of the Preferred Offering. Wouldn't you like to know how Ants has been funded over the past two and a half months?
<Well he did discloae that he was funding the operation himself>
Good day to be the market maker! Yay!!