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Are you saying that it has not been DEAL TIME!!!!!!! 9,293 times over the last 12 years? But an expert with "inside information" told us that.
It's nice to know that he doesn't chew with his mouth open.
That would make sense if you actually thought that not one of them knows already about Photonics, and our GOO. Maybe you think that if we do 3,4,5, shows with them there that would make a difference, and force them to buy our material. The CEO's of their companies have made comments already acknowledging the need for our type of speed. Tell me again what will will gain by repeating the same mantra to them, and the same Jose's of the industry?
I would say these talks make a difference if it made new players aware of the material, we would have seen share-price increases at any of these, which we have not.
As Harold Melvin and the Blue Notes sang; If you don't know me you will never never know me. All the things we have been through you should understand me, like I understand you.
Dr, Lebby chairing and speaking at conferences with many of the top companies in photonics are involved.
Not a personal snub to the good Dr. but we have done more than a dozen of them, with all the eyes and ears of these top companies being present multi-times. It is good for our ego's to hear how great the GOO is, but we and EVERYBODY that needs to know (potential customers and partners) already know. They never do what we all want the most, make the share price higher. It definitely takes much of the Dr.'s time and effort away from closing the science and the first ever money DEAL!!!.
What is there to gain other than, he look at me, I have the greatest future disruptive technology for all things computer chips, but again it is to the same small group that already knows about it. This is not a slight against M. L., but after a couple of decades to us true long believers, show us the money. Tell the world in a side by side test of the old vs. the GOO. What is the downside to that? No NDA's will be broken, and in reality it may light a fire under the potential customers, when they see the mass media advertising our science, and other potential customers, talking about buying our product first, and leaving them in the dust. Whoever is first to the market with the chip that is 1/3, 10x's Greener, Faster, Cheaper, will own the market. Let's make them fight for the right to PARTY, errrr buy our Goo covered chips.
I have owned LWLG for 17 years, and love everything Dr. L has brought, but tell me if you really think that there are important people that need the power of the GOO, that do not already know about Photonics, and our Cure to Moore? All the Foundries know about us, and what major chip maker has not been represented at some point at one of our presentations? 10, and even 5 years ago, photonics was considered a joke, but now we have seen major players at every chip maker, etc. confirming that it is the future of everything computer chip.
If we are going to do another show, let us do a Ted like presentation with the before chip, and the after GOO chip, showing FASTER, CHEAPER, GREENER. While we are waiting for the T 1 testing to be finished, this at least would open the eyes of the retail stock market and drive our share-price higher. It is time for the company to throw us a bone, with some public NON-NDA PR to stabilize the share-price.
This is still a very esoteric science project that the mass media, and mass market once they learn about it, will see how ridiculously low the share-price is, and jump in. I think Jose is already sold on Dr. Lebby's presentations. Let's open the eyes to millions of new potential newbies to ride the wave.
Another dog and pony show with Professor Lebby. I don't think there is anyone else that we need to educate in the world about the power of the GOO, that doesn't already know, and could make our stock more than $100 at least. Everybody that needs to know, knows so let's get the Closer Lebby to do whatever needs done at the T 1's and foundries and get our first real DEAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You are right, we true long-term shareholders have been kicking the heck out of those shorts. All of us that have literally lost millions of dollars on paper agree with you that we have been the winners and they, that have made millions are the losers. Yep that's the ticket George Santos.
Wow!!!! And it all starts with the Licensing Agreement and the Tech Transfer Agreement Lebby will be inking before the May 2023 ASM which is only 4 months away!!!!
That's great. So are you saying you believe we will get our very first financial contract sometime in 2023?
Hopefully you are right but so far the shorts have been the Roadrunner with the share-price being the anvil falling $20, $19, $18, $17, $16, $15................ Making fun of them at this point is like Mike Tyson looking for his mouth piece, after Buster Douglas knocked him silly, saying you are in trouble now Buster.
Eddie Mush
they just don't understand "investing in pre-revenue" companies.
Great point. It makes you wonder if these people had false expectations due to some very baseless daily copy and pasting that for many years has claimed that there was going to be a financial contract any day, and this for more than a decade. That created too many false expectations that the T 1's were done testing in their labs, which of course is the only thing that matters, because we have nothing, until we have everything.
You realize like many that we are pre-revenue, until the GOO is Through, and until then, no contracts will be Due.
MS when we get our Vein news, and the world hears about the GOO, and our shares are worth whatever the F U money is, and we all meet to party, you are the first one I want to get high with!
So yes, IVDN has really never been in a better position than right now.
Wow since you felt the need to correct me, let me ask this to the handful of real shareholders on this site not being paid to hype, what would you rather have, your stock valued as it was on 2-9-2014 at more than $2.00 a share, with booming growth, or today at $00.25?
To your point if the question is, is it grossly underpriced? The answer is yes, but with the upside in 2014, if there was no FTC lawsuit that still would be wrong in regard to what would be the best position the stock was in. Either way this is the greatest material in a multi-billion dollar industry, with potential of being the best in other multi-billion dollar industries, that are not being pursued, and if ever properly marketed, is the greatest underpriced stock of them all, with insane upside potential, if............
Back to the shorts, the official Finra short data release for December the 15th T=2 price was $7 and there were 18.5 Million shares short. Folks they sold 1.5 million shares over the past month and as of today those 1.5 million shares sold (80k shares per day) they held the price down 5 Cents Per day. Currently $6.14, can you imagine if they did not sell those 1.5 million shares (oh and make no mistake about it they will have to buy those shares back)
Are you know instructing us guys that shorts are bad?
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x said "Do you guys literally not understand that you can purchase more shares when the price drops? Do really want to own less shares than more shares? Over the long haul the shorts providing discounted shares is of benefit to the longs that are buying them."
#bothsidesofthemouth
Yes, IVDN has never been in a better position than right now.
Well actually we were when we were selling the Insultex House-wrap in 2 major National Retailers, ready to ship a major home builder, and the stock was selling around $2.00 a share.
What we do have now that we didn't have then is a victory in Federal Court vs. the USA FTC, who challenged the fact that the material actually had an R-Value.
Who beats the US Government in Federal Court? We freaking did!!!
That victory alone with just basic marketing 101 should have driven the share-price past any previous high. Simply by spending essentially chump change, to let everybody that spec's any construction jobs understand how inferior any material they are currently using is, would create as much demand as we could produce. It is now more than a year later and we are selling for pocket change found behind the sofa cushions.........
Sure proto, right after you do, which is 1,000 times more than I do.
Only a signed financial contract DEAL!!!!! will differentiate us between them and success.
The shorts are back over that 20 Million number, can you imagine if they bought 200k shares yesterday instead of selling because one day that will happen. Do the math on 20 Million shares recovered at 200k shares per day is,,, 100 Trading days using 5 days per week that is 20 weeks or 5 MONTHS of sustained buying. It is so important that you guys understand just how many shares 20 Million shares are to buy when the longs are holding this tight.
Are you now instructing us that the shorts are bad?
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x said- "Do you guys literally not understand that you can purchase more shares when the price drops? Do really want to own less shares than more shares? Over the long haul the shorts providing discounted shares is of benefit to the longs that are buying them."
Yes but we are now on Twitter. Don't all of the major Builders, Developers, Contractors, Architects, and National Retailers go to Twitter to learn about the State of the Art, greatest product in a multi-billion dollar industry?
With just an easy understanding of the amazing properties of the Evacuated Cells, and how it creates an R-6 Value, saving money on Construction, while also saving the heated Earth, why would we want to spend any money advertising (errr Educating as it is not a hard sell) in the Trade sites that the people that would Specify our material read all the time?
Bullish weekly chart, this will move big soon!
We started the week at about $0.26, and we are now about $0.26, with minimal volume. What is your definition of a bullish week?
What is the bid price that they are willing to buy it? I would think with all the great news that gets repeated every day here, they would not wait to buy it so low, and would get some at the ask, which if all that gets repeated here daily, will still be very cheap.
What is your definition of another strong close? A total of $365 dollars was spent on the amount of shares bought yesterday. It is a joke with the greatest material in a multi-billion dollar industry.
Thanks p-pe. What made you think for the last 10 years that the material was 100% complete, and that someone was ready to buy it, when it was so far away from marketing?
Do you really think we will get a a buyout offer before we even get our first single penny financial DEAL!!!!!? By the way when do you anticipate that we will get our first financial contract?
Reading many of the posts yesterday were quite comical, shorts are desperately thinking how they can spin what they heard, oh yes they are scrambling.
Are you now literally telling us that shorts are bad? Don't you still want them to take the share-price a little bit lower so you can have that great benefit of buying a few thousand more "discounted shares"?
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x said-"Do you guys literally not understand that you can purchase more shares when the price drops? Do really want to own less shares than more shares? Over the long haul the shorts providing discounted shares is of benefit to the longs that are buying them."
TRUTH is that Lebby is ON-TRACK to deliver the 12 month goals set out at the May 2022 ASM,
So if he can hit these milestone goals, when do you think they will get their first penny income from selling our material?
So as Dr. L. basically ended the call saying the cycle time of the foundries is long and we are at the beginning with much maturity needed. Thosej of you that actually understand the process and science (not the fake hyper‘s) when realistically can all of these steps be taken, and not to hold you to a date, but some time frame when you think we will market the GOO for money?
Interesting how Dr. Lebby mentioned so many times how expensive it is working to get the foundry to do this and that we need to find a hybrid and other steps that are needed. He called us still a small chemical company. We are getting closer to the proverbial finish line but obviously there are more steps to take. It’s hard to believe that people were predicting 10 years ago that we were any day away from financial contracts and people gave such credibility to this fake hyped news.
The first and only thing that matters, (other than in our case is in their testing labs) supply vs. demand. Give us news of the first real financial DEAL!!!! and there will not be enough supply (shares) for (demand) sale by us true longs, with lot's of the outstanding shares. Then we can actually see and discuss a short squeeze, until I believe we hit $50 within a couple of weeks that it will take for the rest of the mainstream media world to understand such an esoteric GOO, Soon I hope.
Wow, that was $518.96 total market sold today. With the best product in the world, not to advertise to the people that specify the products, is probably why we are stuck at this price range.
I believe that once Architects, and Contractors LEARN about the power of the; proprietary process for forming closed and evacuated cell expanded low density foam is entitled to patent protection, and how it not only saves money in construction, but major amounts of energy, not using our material is like doing CONSTRUCTION MALPRACTICE.
This is just an education, not a hard sell. We few here know about it, but to the rest of the multi-billion dollar building world it is still a secret. Great job on the Twitter site, but until we are in the Industry journals and web-sites, this is a very esoteric unknown entity.
We will look back and laugh how cheap these shares are, and how many missed scooping up as much as they can under $00.50, once hopefully the proper advertising/marketing decisions are made. We beat the Federal Government like 17 months ago. BEAT THE FEDERAL GOERNMENT IN FEDERAL COURT, and we are still selling at a quarter, and even funnier, only averaging about 2k shares worth a whopping $3,400 worth a day.
INCONCEIVABLEE
I'm still baffled by the 3 day run we've been on.
We were at $20,now we are at $5.74 up around a $1.28, why are you baffled? No disrespect but, we have the solution to Moore's Law, and as many stated, will be key in many categories, worth many $Billions. I am baffled why we are not at least 3 time this s-p, even though we still have not had our first financial DEAL!!!!! Let's get to at least 50% back to $20 before we have a parade.
Looks like the shorts are not giving up easily because it has not been this high for a Loooong time.
Are you telling all of us disciples that shorts are bad?
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x said "Do you guys literally not understand that you can purchase more shares when the price drops? Do really want to own less shares than more shares? Over the long haul the shorts providing discounted shares is of benefit to the longs that are buying them."
Thanks PP. True but that would be one and the same as I have not made the transition it yet.
$5's on deck!
Please Eddie Mush don't jinx us again.
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After 17 years of nurturing the baby GOO to hopefully MEGA GOO, as soon as we get the NEWS, I will want to spend the glorious profits ASAP. It's not like they say about the best revenge...., showing all those that made millions of other safer investments over the last 2 decades, while laughing at my pure belief of Photonics etc. but just self satisfaction that us true long term (non-fake hater/pumper) believers were right. Just hope I live long enough to do so, as we have lost some solid posters here over the years.
THANKS ALL!
Thanks. Sorry for my ignorance, but if I convert to the Roth this week, and pay taxes on all my gains, and Vein gets the news we all want, If we then go right to $50 and I sell lot's of my shares, they will definitely be tax free? Don't know if age is a variable, but I am over 65. TIA
Thanks to both of you! I thought that you must hold the shares for either 3 or 5 years before you sell them to trade them tax free? Anyone know? I agree the broker has a vested interest.
So if one is over 65 is there still a real saving in converting? My broker makes it seem like I would be paying the same taxes either way when I sell. If we get back to where I have been waiting now 17 years with LWLG after the first financial contract, I would take it down, and go to the beach asap.
Thanks in advance to anyone that really knows how this affects those of us that are older and will not want to wait I think it is 5 years for the savings by converting.
I like the small increase relative to the recent high, but as Winston Wolf said in Pulp Fiction;
Let's not start --------each others -----, we still have work to do.
Until we even go halfway to $20, ie $10 let's keep the hyperbole on the low down.