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Whoever this promoter guy is, he is right. I stop talking about TDCP because everyone knows how bullish I am on this stock. But the fact remains, if TDCP can hold the technological edge in 3D technology, then the guys at TDCP now will be the next Steve Jobs. In 5 to 10 years--maybe less- 3D tech will make today's iPad, Kendle look like Tonka Toys. 3D will not only change the computer and everything electronic but it will bring about a cultural revolution as well. I need to stop talking now. I have said too much already.
My friends, a 15% drop for a penny stock is far from a free fall. If it goes down 70% or more, that will be a great chance to really load up. ECDC is going to go much mucho higher. Don't worry. It just takes a little time.
Do you have a name for this Angel from Heaven, this goddess, this Ronald Reagan incarnate?
Yes you are missing something--but not to worry. Have a nice day.
I am sorry you are having a bad time my friend. Just remember, as bad as it gets, 5 or 10 years from now, this bad time will just be a bad memory. I wish you much success.
They could but that is not likely. The pps is way too low. TDCP wants the pps to be as high as possible before the r/s. Remember, the higher the pps before the r/s, the less dilution TDCP will have to execute. In addition, if TDCP behaves the way most companies do with a r/s, they will do the r/s close to the drop dead date which in this case is April 30, 2012. They prefer a big lead time so that the market fully digest the fact that a r/s is coming. Also, just before the r/s they will give a notice of a specific date for the r/s. Usually that will be about two weeks. So they will publically announce the actual date of the r/s about two week ahead of time. Based on how the stock is behaving at that time, that will tell me whether to buy more TDCP before the r/s or sell before the r/s or maybe even do a combo.
Whoever sold me my final buy for ECDC stock at .007, thank you very much. I now have all the shares I want to own in this stock. ECDC is a great stock with a great future.
Lane, from what I can tell, TDCP is going to do a r/s no matter what the pps is like April 2012. I think they do not want 1 Billion plus shares outstanding. But I agree with you, a pps of .25 or .35 by the time of the r/s would be very nice--and it could easily happen.
I understand your problem. I am not selling any of my new TDCP shares. The price is just too good. That TSP is getting closer and closer. I think we might see much sooner than 12 months. What scares me is that they will reveal the TSP just before the r/s. Boy what a problem that will be.
If my memory serves me correctly, the last time TDCP moved up to .10 earlier this year--the stock behaved just like it is now. We have been having big volume days for a week now with modest but respectable gains. Of course, there is no question that the stock is way over sold. Thus, this could be just a short term correction to the upside. In any case, each day that goes by we get closer and closer to the 12 month timeframe for the TSP and the r/s. What I fear most is that the stock will be radio active at the time of the r/s! That means I or we will have to decide whether to sell before the r/s and run the risk the stock will not correct to the downside or hold through the r/s or even do a little of both.
I am hoping that some day my little PWRM will hit pay dirt. It's a nice company and it does not deserve to be here in the tank. Dear PWRM: Please be a nice company and make a move-- a nice uptick! say .50?
If you do I promise to send you a nice Christmas card this year. Thank you.
YOu can see the bid and the ask, right? put your order in for .011 and you will get your shares. You must decide if you want to press the AON button. Leave it unbutton and your order has a better chance of being filled. I have an order in too. I think you might be blocking my order!!
I am bullish on ECDC. This stock is going to soar in the near future. Right now I have an order in to buy more ECDC stock. My order price is set for .007. I might get it and I might not. If I get it at .007, this will be my last buy at this price for ECDC. I will have enough shares. Good luck to all.
I agree. Two months ago, some people here thought that when the S1 was released--the stock would soar. Well, that did not happen. However, the fundamentals for ECDC have not changed. The acquisition or Rogue is the key to ECDC's future. This stock will be take off big time. In the near term a .10 to .20 TP is very possible--.05 is certain. In 12 to 24 months, $1.00 or something in that area is likely. I am very bullish with this stock.
Are people here at iHUB positive or negative on today's S1 and 8K release?
True, there is a small amount of dilution about 15.5%-- but aside from that--I think things are great!! Has anybody lost interest in ECDC with these SEC releases?
Excellent comment. That is the way to look at this situation. The more often the extreme moves in the pps, the more certain will be the final and last uptick in the stock price. Violent ups and downs are great--that is a sign of a stock on the move !!
Thank you very much for your post. The information was very helpful.
For ECDC to do this with no new news, to do a second rally back to back with one last week is highly suggestive. Something is going on that we do not know about--something big and important. I think there is a real chance this stock is going to move substantilly higher by the end of this year. I am glad I did not sell any shares last week.
Considering today's news about ECDC: what happened? did the tanker sink?
Thank you Ohmmm for the info.
Dear Madman, when this falling knife finally hits the floor here at TDCP, I am seriously thinking about buying more TDCP stock!!
Hello Madman. So nice to hear from you. Regarding your question: it is not 100 certain that TDCP will wait until April 2012 to do their r/s. Technically, they can do it anytime now. however, if TDCP does their r/s the way most companies do it, then they will not do the r/s until the April 2012 time frame. As you know the deadline is April 30, 2012. Most companies wait until the last possible moment. Thus, there generally is a long period of time between the time for approval for the r/s and the actual time it is done. In our case that would be six months or so (from October 2011 to April 2012.) Also, just before the r/s, most companies will give a final notice of about 2 weeks or so before the r/s and give the actual date the r/s will occur. So for example, say the deadline was November 30, 2011 to do the r/s. Then sometime right about now (in late October), they will issue a press release and state, the r/s will take effect November 15th, 2011. In our case, we can expect some final notice in late March or early April 2012. Clearly, a r/s right now, today would be a joke. TDCP must work to get the pps back up before the r/s to make it worth it. I am confident the pps for TDCP will be much higher by the time the r/s occurs. Good luck my friend.
My last buy in ECDC was a week ago at .007. If she goes back to .007, I will buy some more. This stock is way oversold. And I believe it will do extremely well in a few months.
I don't believe this!
with a crazy bid ask like this, something is going to happen now!
One good hard spike on the upside and we might take off again. Just one spike upward is all we need.
The good news is with this kind of volume, it can flash just as easy the other direction. This is very bad day to short this stock.
If the volume keeps up until the last 30 minutes of trading today, we just might break through .025. If we break through .025 today, I have no idea where ECDC will go tomorrow or this week.
Let's see what happens during the power hour. Maybe she will break through then.
I heard that on CNBC too. Apparently, the TV was something Steve Jobs was interested in. I think someday in the not too distant future, you will not be able to buy a TV as we know. That the TV and the computer will be completely merged.
I have changed my mind. I was going to sell some shares today at .025+ and hold the rest as free shares. However, I think this stock next year could be between .50 and $1.00. I am not going to sell any shares at all but hold the stock and see what happens next year.
Looks like we have some people who are willing to take a .015 profit verses .15--too bad.
If we can bust out over .025 in the next 30 minutes-- we have a real chance for a moon shot!!
both the bid and ask are slowly moving back up!!
Can this stock hit .10 today???!!
The management at TDCP can never "admit" to pumping the stock. There are serious legal consequences to certain "pumping" methods that can get the company in trouble. Naturally, Brother Sid is going to say he will not make pointless press statements. The can "promote" the stock, they can say they want the stock to go up and will everything within the law to help it go up. But straight-out pumping is sinful. The problem TDCP management has is clear. If the stock tanks, the r/s will be a joke. They will not be able to dilute the stock after the r/s with a stock price this low. Thus, it is in their best interest for the stock to be as high as possible before the r/s. How do they do that? TDCP has already told you how they will raise the stock price before the r/s. They told you at the meeting they are only telling you information that is two years old--at least some of it is that old--the part you heard. The best stuff, the current info is being kept secret for legal and other reasons they have not told you about--yet. Now just guess how TDCP will raise the stock price before April 2012?
Thank you for offering to make the call. If you would be willing to do that-that would be great. The timing of the new post r/s shares--when they plan to issue them is an important piece of information and I would like to know what they say to you. Confidentially, I would like to follow up with my own call in the January/February time frame to see if they provide me the same answer they provide you. To see if their plans have changed. So much of how they do a r/s depends on what TDCP's stock is doing at the time. Naturally, I will be glad to share with you and everyone on the iHub board whatever info I find out when I make my own call next year.
Thank you Artsy for your kind response. I feel fortunate that you and the others were willing to share with us the information you had from the meeting here at iHub. I liked both of your posts a lot. Thank you.
As I indicated in my post, you will not know the answer to your question until shortly before the r/s. If TDCP is dead in the water before the r/s--don't buy before the r/s. Wait until after the r/s and wait until the stock drifts down back. If TDCP is radioactive before the r/s then buy before the r/s. I will post my secret message concerning r/s again in March and maybe earlier for some of the people at the yahoo web board. You cannot make a large post like mine on the yahoo. Thus, the yahoo people will need to come to Ihub to read my post. Good luck.
SECRETS OF A REVERSE SPLIT.
For those who never have experienced a r/s, here are some scenarios to help you to decide whether to buy TDCP stock before or after the r/s. If you currently own TDCP, this will help you to decide whether to liquidate all of your shares before the r/s or hold on to some through the r/s.
Please find below six different possible scenarios for the r/s at TDCP.
Key facts to remember:
1) As you can see from below, in terms of dollar gain or loss in your investment in TDCP, it does not matter whether the r/s is 15:1 or 35:1. You will not lose more or less if one ratio is used verses the other. Your dollar loss or gain will be the same regardless of which one is chosen. However, there may be other advantages to one ratio verses another. Many companies will use a r/s try for a pps of $1.00 or higher to be qualified for a listing on one of the major exchanges.
2) Don’t assume the stock will go DOWN after the r/s. In many well established companies, the stock will go down little if at all after the r/s. In penny stocks like TDCP, the general rule is the stock will plunge big time. It is even possible the stock will return to the pps before the r/s. This is because management begins to dilute the stock after the r/s to raise money.
3) However, TDCP is a bit of a wild card. CSpace technology is new–almost everything about TDCP is new. This is why it is not clear that the stock will go down.
4) If TDCP releases some good news shortly before the r/s and the stock goes red hot like it did a few months ago, the chances the stock will go down after the r/s diminish substantially.
5) If TDCP has a steady climb in the pps 3 to 4 weeks before the r/s, the chances the stock will go down after the r/s diminish as well.
6) If TDCP stays here at .01 all the way to April 2012, the chances the stock will go down after the r/s are almost 100% certain.
7) Remember, the higher the pps BEFORE the r/s, the less amount of dilution TDCP management will engage in after the r/s.
8) Thus, if the r/s occurs in April 2012, which is the usual pattern in situations like these where the drop dead date for the r/s is scheduled for April 2012, a lot depends on where TDCP’s pps is at that time. How is the stock behaving just before the r/s.
9) Fortunately or unfortunately depending on how you look at it, there are 6 months until April 2012. For a penny stock that is an eternity. It is not out of the question that TDCP could be at .25, .50 or even a $1.00 by that time. The number of things that can cause this stock to go nuclear are almost unlimited. Now that TDCP’s management has put the proto type on the calendar (12 months at the outside) the speculation factor kicks in big time. You can use your own imagination to guess what can cause TDCP stock to go up: patent issues, new partnerships with Boeing etc., investment news letters, false rumors, market makers pushing the stock, etc. (Two years ago I owned a stock called ASFX. There was a false rumor that there was going to be a buy out. I made 400% return on my investment in less than 30 days due to that false rumor.)
10) Finally, please remember that many companies like to issue good news shortly before the r/s to lessen the pain for investors and to allow those investors who want out to sell at a higher price.
11) If you already own TDCP stock, and the temperature of the stock is red hot shortly before the r/s, you may want to sell a few shares and hold on to the rest. This is the conservative play.
If you are an aggressive investor, you may not want to sell any shares.
If you are ahead +25% by the time of the r/s, you may want to buy some more TDCP stock.
If by late March or April 1st, TDCP is here at .01 –notwithstanding any good news– find the nearest emergency exit and get out. You can buy back in after the r/s.
12) Remember-- a nasty rule about r/s. You cannot sell any shares you now own–those shares that exist before the r/s-- until management at TDCP issues new shares to Scottrade, etc. Until the new shares are issued, you cannot sell any shares you hold through the r/s process. Your stuck. The new issued shares could take weeks for TDCP to issue them. Sometimes months. During which time, you must suffer and watch to stock either tumble or sky rocket without the ability to sell. Of course, you can buy and sell any post r/s you buy. This was one of the questions I had for the Oct. 15th meeting–how long will it take TDCP management to issue the new post r/s shares? I never got an answer.
13) Reverse splits are an exciting time for investors. If you study your stock carefully and have a good sense of timing you can turn what is usually a bad situation into an opportunity. Good luck my friend.
Let’s assume TDCP stock price stays at .01 until the r/s in April 2012.
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .075.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0375.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .015
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Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .175.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0875.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .035
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Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 5%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1575.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 10%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .165.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 25%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1875.
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AT 15:1 R/S.
Question: With $5,000.00 to invest, should I buy more TDCP shares before the r/s or after the r/s under each scenario below– if the pps goes down?
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .075.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $2499.98. Thus you will lose $2,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .075 you will have 66,666 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0375.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $1249.98. Thus you will lose $3,750 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .0375 you will have 133,333 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .015
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $499.99. Thus you will lose $4,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .015 you will have 333,333 shares at no loss.
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AT 35:1 R/S.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .175.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 14,285 shares for a total value of $2,499.99. Thus you will lose $2,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .175 you will have 28,571 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0875.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 14,285 shares for a total value of $1,249.93. Thus you will lose $3,750 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .175 you will have 57,142 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .035
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 14,285 shares for a total value of $499.97. Thus you will lose $4,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .035 you will have 142,857 shares at no loss.
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AT 15:1 R/S.
Question: With $5,000.00 to invest, should I buy more TDCP shares before the r/s or after the r/s under each scenario below–if the pps goes up?
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 5%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1575.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares before the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $5,249.94. Thus you will gain $249 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .1575 you will have 31,746 shares at a loss of $249.00 in lost stock you could have had.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 10%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .165.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares before the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $5,499.94. Thus you will gain $499.94 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .165 you will have 30,303 shares at a loss of $499.94 in lost stock you could have had.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 25%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1875.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares before the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $6,249.93. Thus you will gain $1,249.93 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .1875 you will have 26,666 shares at a loss of $1,249.93 in lost stock you could have had.