Maybe someone can ask Max to take me off of his ignore list long enough to post a reply to that message.

Since he works woth those figures all day long it probably would take less than 60 seconds.

Just an answer, just fill in the blanks with numbers, nothing secret, no insider info, just the facts, and I'll be GONE.

Now all we have to hope for is for buyers with big $$ to search in Yahoo to find a power plant and not go to EBay first

LOLOL

AWWWWSOME!!!!

Where is the PPS going?

IMO that depends on some benchmarks.

A) For PPS to go to DA MOON - need sustained profits
B) for sustained profits - need revenue, lots of it
C) for revenue - need contracts to sell viable product
D) for contracts - need buyers to be confident that the product works as advertised and capability to produce in volume
E1) for confident buyers - need independent validation of products
E2) for capability to produce in volume - need verifiable production capability

So for the validation, we are told that the interested buyers have their own validation, and we, the lowly investors, deserve nothing more than a PhD Wildlife Ecologist's impression of a demonstration

And for verifiable production capability, well z said "trust me Freeus works"

Conclusion - a lot of thing must happen for the PPS to go to DA MOON as lots of us would like to happen, we gotta LOOONG way to go. Having trouble getting to step 1 really.

Press for details and you get dancing from Maximus and insults from all corners of the room and the old "if you don't have big stones and trust, don't play here with us big guys"

Sooner or later, unless something changes, teens are going to look good.

All of course, IMO

Maximus,

re:We publish formulas and market calculations every day spec, you know this yourself as you responded and were involved with them - just yesterday I might add.

Did you by chance need the links of them again, so as to refresh your memory?

It took me a few minutes to check, and I read all of your posts and all of my posts from yesterday. I haven't yet seen you answer a few key questions, at least not clearly and concisely. My cynicism clearly frustrates you and watching someone dance around a question is like watching a train wreck in slow motion.
So I offer a promise. I promise never to post here again if you can provide in a statement the following values on the basis of the testing done on the Rivera Process and resulting products.

The values must be stated in the same way it is written below but with set values substituted.

The Rivera process converts 1 standard bushel of soybeans into ___ gallons of liquid biofuel having a combined BTU value of ___and a quantity of gaseous product having a total of ___ BTU and ____ pounds of solid material.

The ___ gallons of biofuel produced from 1 bushel of soybeans is calculated to produce ____ KWH of electrical power and ____ units of waste heat to be re-utilized if in a combined cycle facility.

We expect to sell the power to the grid for between ____ and ___ per KWH and green credits to be worth between ___ and ___ per KWH produced.

Maximus, fill in the blanks and I'm GONE !

Max, your concise and direct answer to a question always inspires confidence.

The kind of confidence that says "here is your answer, and you see it is just as we said all along, I will be happy to break it down in other words too if you wish. We're trying to explain in clear an un-ambiguous statements every step we take in order to maximise the value and growth of our company"

Fluff and spin, are they buttons on my clothes dryer or the secret to the "Rivera Process"?

Maybe water IS the raw material, and soybeans are just the CATALYST.

Hmmmmm???

Rational, the calcs look correct to me.

Maybe you can share a little knowledge? I'm sure there are others besides myself who would like to know how to calculate it properly.

After all, we are trying to discuss facts, aren't we?

Nah, you're not conn.

you used the ? after a question

It would be more like this? Do you see what I mean!
Whats wrong with you people!!! I hate sciencetists??

"Digital fingerprinting" never lies?!??!!!??

Nah, you don't want Al claiming HE invented it do you?

is that anyone we know ???

Just kidding LOL

There are probably a hundred posts that will fall under the wrath of z's delete key soon. I hope yours is spared, it sums it all up very well, and it is freekin funny.

Thanks for the laugh, I needed it.

String - I don't see the KoolAid graphic anymore, WTF? Just me?

Chains to your comment

Read again this one: http://www.ussec.us/content/resources/alcorn_state.pdf
What the hell is that? Certificate? Laboratory report? Or some such?? Sorry have to say it - it is just piece of .... paper.

It is more than a piece of paper....

The people who made the visit are probably well qualified in their field, no reason to doubt that.

IMO what that paper is - A huge blunder of a PR!! It is in no way a validation of any sort. It does actually say "validation" in the paper, but it is simply an observation of a demostration similar to the video from Oct 06 with a regurgitation of the talking points from a USSE PR. No testing, no chemists, no samples, no measurements, no pictures. A page and a half of "warm and fuzzy" eco-speak.

There must be something horribly wrong to tout this hollow "thank you" letter as a VALIDATION of the process!

This is the great news to end the vacuum of info?

We already knew that you can burn a bucket of beans and make a bucket of flammable liquid and char.

Oh, and gas, don't forget the gas with "economic importance". Now that is some concrete validation for ya!!!

$2 of beans to make $1 of flammable liquid = a miracle

A BIG SWIG OF GRAPE

That is a valid question, otherwise the implication is that the old "batch oven" is still the only producing equipment on-site.

There has been a lot of hooting and hollering from the home team that FreeUS is up and running.

Other than rhetoric, the eveidence indicates otherwise, to me anyway.

JMO

Maximus is even a bit tense

No lack of confidence here, just speculating on the motives of a new poster? Hoping to intimidate him?

There is an awful lot of defensive gesturing for a company on the verge of unimaginable success.

but you did answer a question of mine

k) they moved into an incredible new facility in Natchez, and most people who visit their that have had experience with this board walk away saying they won't ever even read IHUB posts again..

So THAT is why we never get a picture of the "progress"

just my thoughts

Don't let that birdie fly anywhere near your harley.

If he makes a mess you might reduce him to a poof of feathers.

Than where would all the good info come from?

Hey King Oil,

I pegged him first, had him on post #1 at about 95% sure but waited for post #2 for the other 5%.

Darn, if only I could sniff out price moves that well.

Anyway, things should be interesting in the next few days.

spec machine

ahh maybe I got iggy'd oh well

You also said you have been following this forum for months.

Ron, you aren't fooling anyone except yourself.

Welcome back.

Well, if I'm wrong, Welcome

and if I'm right, Welcome back

wasn't meaning to be rude, just to make an observation

sincerely,

specmachine

I didn't know that, last I heard he was in IHub jail.

That would explain the name change to Support USA.

I don't care, but it is so obvious, isn't it??

Connecticut is back

String, your post hit the nail on the head.

I've seen many different posters asking variations of some basic and legitimate questions.

For all of the wording in the post by Maximus, it seemed more like "We're really busy here making sure the company makes the most money for all you shareholders in the future".

With all of the visitors, there is a picture of progress on the additional tubes somewhere, why can't it be posted?

With the two main products being the 7-3-7 fert. and electricity generated from biofuel. The simple question of How much of each is projected to be produced from each bushel of beans?

Nobody asking for secret info.

No reason these questions should not be asked.

No reason they should not be answered.

I'm not bashing, I am a shareholder asking legitimate questions that any sensible person would (as several others have).

spec

Need a couple small items of info..

Maximus, Z, or any others who can contribute

I have some honest questions and having trouble filling a couple of blanks in my ongoing DD. Please help with clear answers if you are able or direct me toward same.

With continuous production of juice in upcoming days, I am recalculating some figures that I am using to weigh in adding to my initial position here.

I heard a figure of electrical power consumed in the process. Can anyone point me to the figures released for KWH/gal of juice or bu of beans? I think it was the radio interview but all I heard was 440 KW/hr. Need additional info to make that into KWH/units of product.

Has there been info released on KWH of power produced/bu of beans.

I have the quantity of other products (fert & gas) to figure their values and I know there are some unknowns in cost of additives and catalyst.

I will be happy to post my calculations and justification of same if I can get these other key components.

Thank you,

Spec

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Interesting thought, but I have sworn off of contemplating the ramifications of it for fear of being "type cast" with the likes of PaperProphet.

Thinking green rah rah

threats and harassment

That's what passes for thoughtful dialog now?

Well I (specmachine) have learned my lesson.

Yes Sir! I will straighten up and fly right from this day forward!

I will NEVER speak against the prevailing wind, nor will I take pleasure in humor that others may fell is in poor taste, and ABOVE ALL I will remain in steadfast blind support of USSE!

God Bless America!!!
God Bless Our Troops!!!
And Most of all - God Bless USSE!!!

Not a bad idea, the ignore list anyway.

I value differing opinions and enjoy humor so my list is just composed of the relentless, inane, and usless info posters.

This is an example of what I mean:

Let me try and explain how construction takes time, for all who does not know. .......they have alot going on! It takes time.

Listen toothferry,

WOW! Well I'm glad our plant is running. Seems like their plant never came off the ground. That is why JR will let any investor view the plant, no mystery!

GeoMoney!

I don't think the village misses him, I sure don't.

Excellent post,

I second that, especially the final paragraph.

Earth to BIOPOWER

What's up? About the time you said Weeeeee, this thing started to make some real progress.

Do you have info???

Would appreciate anything, even a riddle

But based on your statements, it seems reasonable to ask - Why aren't the larger companies (or their savvy employees) sucking up this stock at such a bargain?

Like I said, I want this to work and I think it might.

Sounds like the Connecticut sales pitch on the other board is not helping, who's side is he on?

Yes we needed that,

An ice cube for the KoolAid.

Yep, that's much better.

I guess I'm a cynical optimist?

Come on baby fly.

and thanks to Conneticut would ironically was the "catalyst" for my departure!

Ouch! His boss not gonna like that, he been werkin overtime too!

That is freekin' FUNNY

LOL, thanks, I really needed a good belly laugh.

Sooo freakin' funny

z- They didn't spend 5 million dollars to buy that 11 acre building for nothing.

IIRC - JR said that the property was purchased by "investors" who were allowing him to use it for this project.

Was either in a post by Maximus, or the conference call audio that was available.

Good people involved, yes. Some indications that at least a couple have distanced themselves too, yes.

JMO

My cedential is "I know much more than you do about organic chemistry and physics".

Prove that I don't

Go back to PPs explanation, it is correct. Some don't want to take his word, I just suggested an appropriate substitute (any HS grad with a B or better in chem).

Better yet, go to a Ph.D (in a chem related field) if you can find one that you trust. Take his or her word for it.

If you want to change the laws of physics, you'll have to bring a better sales pitch than what I've seen. If you claim it is magic, show it to David Copperfield, He'll buy it.

Step AWAY from the KoolAid!

Ask any HS grad with a B or better in chemistry where you went wrong in your combustion theory. Be prepared to be laughed at. Come back tomorrow and let us know if you learned anything.

Hoo Boy!

never got over the sheepskin repo?

Paper,

My exposure is probably tiny compared to some in here, so I am treating this as a learning experience. I'll go for the ride for a while but hope to get out with something to play another day. Little Johnny's college fund is safe.

Thanks for your interesting view on the RM, I hadn't thought of it that way. Good to consider.

Your explanation of the BTU issue is excellent (and 100% correct). It seems that the old "run your car on di-hydrogen oxide" myth is still alive for those who want to believe. Sorry to those who believe in magic energy, one day you will wake up with your pockets empty.

That said, there is still a possibility that a good pyrolysis process could work. An interesting point was made somewhere basically - that's not new, I just don't know why you would put something as valuable into it as soybeans, just use sewage, or woodchips, whatever.

As a last gasp, maybe this is a ruse to get the units built and they plan to use them on some waste feedstock. Wishful thinking, but that is all I have at this point. And of course, sarcasm for the KoolAid crowd.

JMO -- Roast me again for my "textural proximity" to PP

spec_machine

what exactly do you mean the "wolves are circling"

please explain

just a twist on a previous poster who said something about Big Dogs circling

In my current view the stock in USSE is injured so I thought wolves were more appropriate. The vultures come after the death, hoping that does not happen.

funny how you can grasp the concept of "sub-molecular activity" to explain the magic energy but a simple analogy goes over your head

I try to find humor, thanks for providing

Paper Prophet,

I have seen you get more than your share of roasting around here and for the life of me, I can't figure out why more people aren't saying "hey, he has a valid point".

I understand wanting to believe in a company, but I try to distance myself from the emotional mind and listen more to the analytical mind. Goes back to my education (yes, a scientist).

I didn't see the shell games going on when I bought into this, and I did make a mistake in taking a leap of faith. That said, I think there still might be some potential here as an energy process. I am sure it has been over-hyped. What I am not sure of is how much, and when we might see the juice.

Hard to be patient when the wolves are circling (they are not BIG DOGS) and hoping that the next circling critters are not vultures over this dead carcass.

Now I get roasted for being sympathetic to PP, so be it.