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*cough*
Or did you mean to say:
RVME is a fully reporting JOKE??!!!!!!
Well when I saw Gina D
thought she had a nice rack
and then stupid me bought this garbage
two-three RS's ago.
Then there was no bounce near the bottom
and whoosh, like flushing $ down the toilet.
1 million shares have become 1 share.
See what happens when a nice rack turns an old man's head.
hehe
You're juggling apples and oranges there.
Or would cats and dogs be better?
That's like saying GFCI is on the same planet, in the
same universe and it just doesn't fly. Different countries=
different laws. It's STILL OFF TOPIC.
Wayne Newton is in Nevada, by your logic, he's guilty
of securities fraud in Canada.
The difference is so obvious you are back on ignore.
The statement of allegations is made by:
The Ontario Securities Commission which, btw,
is in CANADA. It has nothing to do with GFCI.
From Cyo's own post:
Ontario Securites Commissions: http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/SOA/soa_20061227_suljabros.jsp
IN THE MATTER OF THE SECURITIES ACT
R.S.O. 1990, c.S.5, AS AMENDED
- and -
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES, LTD. (NEVADA),
SULJA BROS. BUILDING SUPPLIES LTD.,
KORE INTERNATIONAL MANAGEMENT INC.,
PETER VUCICEVICH AND ANDREW DeVRIES
STATEMENT OF ALLEGATIONS
OF STAFF OF THE ONTARIO SECURITIES COMMISSION
http://www.osc.gov.on.ca/Enforcement/Proceedings/SOA/soa_20061227_suljabros.jsp
STATEMENT OF ALLEGATIONS
OF STAFF OF THE ONTARIO SECURITIES COMMISSION
This is a Canadian Gov website.
period, end of story.
GFCI isn't doing this in Canada to anyone's knowledge that I'm aware of.
Therefore, it's off topic.
Except JD can deliver explanations
which then make it: not fraud.
That's the problem with Pinks....too much latitude.
It's also why they are such a risk.
Off topic imo
Canadian law has nothing to do with GFCI imo.
Check it out
UVSE
Universal Energy Corp
Wonder why there's been no discussion about this?
There's the PR with it about the UERI dividend shares
April Fools in advance!
ROTFL!!!!
GFCI is a PINK
Dial doesn't have to give out the information
you're demanding. That's why he hasn't done it....
Thanks for the laugh!
So "someone" got another separate entity involved
in a lawsuit back in '05 against a brokerage house.
This "someone" didn't bring the lawsuit themselves.
I don't see that someone listed as "Plaintiff" on the documents.
A class action lawsuit against a brokerage house
doesn't exactly speak volumes here concerning GFCI, imo.
In most class action lawsuits, the lawyers make the $
and the little guy gets squat.
I don't see any individuals currently suing GFCI.
It appears it isn't in their best interests.
I have on the other hand, successfully sued a much
larger corporation and MY name WAS listed as Plaintiff.
So I CAN say for a FACT, I was the PLAINTIFF.
I say successfully sued as they settled out of court
once they realized they stood to lose and lose big.
I won and was made whole and that's what matters, imo.
That CFTC lawsuit lends little credence to our current dilemma
of waiting on something real and credible from JD.
There's enough in the works currently to make patience
a genuine consideration, imo.
In the meantime, if the UERI dividend is paid then
JD will begin establishing his credibility.
This begins with taking UERI public which would be a step
in the right direction, imo.
Imo, JD didn't hijack the company.
He has taken a mess and by all appearances
is moving bit by bit to straighten it out
in spite of hindrances placed in the way.
We'll know soon enough.
Isn't RR somehow based in the Cayman Islands?
Perhaps this will have some impact on them in the GFCI lawsuit:
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The Voice of the White House
TBR News March 23, 2007
http://millionaires.proboards86.com/index.cgi?board=main&action=display&thread=1174792927
Washington, D.C., March 23, 2007: "There are two deadly financial scandals that will break or which are in the process of breaking. One is the so-called "sub prime mortgage" swindle and the other is the coming collapse of the hedge funds.
In the first instance, unscrupulous mortgage vendors, deliberately target unsophisticated young potential home buyers or the elderly minorities and lured them with promises of very low rate mortgages. Of course the small print in light gray ink and 8 point type informed the poor sucker that, yes, you had a very low initial rate but soon enough, the rates could double or triple. And guess what, kids, they did. And all across America, the banks and final holders of these con jobs results found their mortgages were worthless because the holders could not pay. Of course this was well-known to the initial con men but very often not to the banks or the victims holding the mortgages. All across America, sub prime mortgages giants quietly took their profits and moved to Spain, leaving tens of thousands out on the streets and a growing number of unoccupied, and unsaleable homes. The greedy banks and other mighty financial institutions, seeing how many hundreds of millions the initial salesmen were making, rushed to invest, something they will very soon regret.
While this drama is unfolding, another is in the wings, waiting to lumber onto the stage and explode. One of my friends in the FBI's White Collar Crime told me that most of the huge hedge funds are nothing but shells as their owners are operating one of the largest Ponzi schemes ever. Hundreds of billions have been looted and many of the very flush ceos and their staffs have bought homes in foreign countries to be near the billions they have looted. In the first case, it is the poor that have been deliberately screwed and in the latter, the greedy rich."
London's Cayman Islands: The Empire of the Hedge Funds
March 9, 2007
by Richard Freeman
Executive Intelligence Review.
On Feb. 27, the world's hedge funds, through their manipulation and miscalculation of the yen carry-trade, led to a violent unwinding of that carry-trade, which triggered disintegration of the world financial structure. Stock exchanges fell, from the Dow Jones exchange in the United States, to China's Shanghai composite index, to Brazil's Bovespa index, shedding more than $1.5 trillion in paper losses. Secondary incidents contributed to setting off the downturn. But hedge funds had already bled the major international commercial banks and corporations into absolute bankruptcy, and had leveraged borrowed funds and derivatives into the biggest financial tumor ever. That, combined with their yen carry-trade role, amplified the effect of the secondary incidents, and is now driving the financial system further into systemic breakdown.
And where are those hedge funds? Though they may have offices in locations like Greenwich, Connecticut, or New York City, 8,282 out of the total of 9,800 hedge funds operating at the end of the third quarter 2006 worldwide, were registered in the Cayman Islands, a British Overseas Territory, run like a dictatorship by a Royal Governor appointed by Queen Elizabeth II, with a total population of 57,000 people.
There is good reason for this. The Cayman Islands Monetary Authority (CIMA) is supposed to "regulate" the hedge funds, but instead runs a protection racket for their derivatives trading and tax sheltering. The CIMA gives each hedge fund, at registration, a 100-year exemption from any taxes; shelters the fund's activity behind a wall of official secrecy; allows the fund to self-regulate; and prevents other nations from regulating the funds by insisting on first and final authority in this area.
And the remainder of the world's hedge funds, not registered in the Cayman Islands? Most are registered in other British Overseas Territories and satrapies, such as the Bahamas, Bermuda, the British Virgin Islands, and the Isle of Man.
Global Financial Oligarchy's Instrument
Since mid-January, forces internationally--ranging from the Danish government, to German Vice Chancellor Franz Müntefering (who has famously labeled hedge funds "locusts"), to U.S. Sen. Carl Levin (D-Mich.)--have directed initiatives geared to regulating, and potentially bringing under control the predatory activities of the world's hedge funds. For his efforts, Müntefering was outrageously attacked on Feb. 14 by the German edition of the Financial Times, the London financier oligarchy's mouthpiece, as an "anti-Semite."
The Müntefering, Levin, and other initiatives, though reflecting a well-intentioned impulse, don't recognize the real nature of the beast; accordingly, they will not solve the problem. For the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy, closely intertwined banks and hedge funds are its foremost instruments of power, to control the financial system, and loot and devastate companies and nations.
Recognizing that this financial system is fracturing, the oligarchy will go to general nuclear war against Iran, Russia, and China, rather than lose its instruments of power. Therefore, it is impossible to think of hedge-fund reform in the United States, or in Germany, because the real source of power of hedge funds in these countries, lies outside in the Cayman Islands, ensconced in a fortified shell. Leaders such as Müntefering or Levin, must be prepared to break the power of the Cayman Islands--which means the death grip of the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy, if they are to achieve anything of value at all.
This oligarchy made changes in the Cayman Islands so that the hedge-fund "slime-mold" would find hospitable grounds for growth. The hedge funds' growth in the Caymans, in turn, fueled their growth internationally.
The three island specks in the Caribbean Sea, 480 miles south from Florida's southern tip--which came to be known as the Caymans, after the native word for crocodile (caymana)--had for centuries been a basing area for pirates who attacked trading vessels.
Though under British rule for centuries, the Caymans officially became a British Crown Colony in 1971, though later the term was changed to the euphemistic moniker British Overseas Territory; then as now, Queen Elizabeth II rules firmly, appointing the Islands' Governor, etc.
In 1993, the decision was made to turn this tourist trap into a major financial power, through the adoption of a Mutual Funds Law, to enable the easy incorporation and/or registration of hedge funds in a deregulated system. (Technically, a hedge fund is a type of mutual fund, but not your grandfather's type.*) According to a firm that incorporates hedge funds, "The Mutual Fund Law was established ... to position the Cayman Islands as a hub in the financial industry."[ /b]
According to representatives of Charles Adams, Ritchie & Duckworth, a Cayman Islands law firm that is involved in the hedge-fund business, the Cayman Islands offer prospective hedge funds:
"No regulatory restriction on investment policies or strategies, commercial terms..., or choice of service providers....
"Tax-neutral environment with no direct corporation, capital gains, income, profits or withholding taxes applicable to funds" (emphasis added).
The ease of setting up a hedge fund was brought home in a telephone discussion with a member of the Cayman Islands Monetary Authority, which is charged with "regulating" them. From the day of application, it takes but two to five days for a hedge fund to be approved, and costs $3,600 in total fees, a mere drop in the bucket. To invest in a hedge fund, an investor must put up at least $100,000. From then onward, the hedge fund must produce an annual account, audited by a Caymans local accountant. If one recalls how Arthur Andersen LLP and other accountants carried out audits in recent years, it is apparent that this does not have to be a high hurdle.
The only information that the CIMA will release about a hedge fund, is that it is registered, and where its registered office is. The names of investors and other minimal information are kept strictly secret. Since the Cayman Islands have no tax laws, the CIMA shares little or no information with other nations' authorities on tax matters. On other matters, it is up to the CIMA whether it will "share or divulge information."
On the whole, neither the United States' Securities and Exchange Commission, nor other countries' regulatory bodies, have any regulatory authority over hedge funds. Moreover, neither the SEC, nor other bodies, have pierced the CIMA's armor.
The 1993 Mutual Fund Law had its effect: with direction from the City of London, the number of hedge funds operating in the Cayman Islands exploded: from 1,685 hedge funds in 1997, to 8,282 at the end of the third quarter 2006, a fivefold increase.
Cayman Island hedge funds are four-fifths of the world total.
Globally, hedge funds hold $1.44 trillion in assets under management, but through using leverage of anywhere from 5 to 20 times, they command up to $30 trillion of deployable funds.
But the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy built an entire financial superstructure on the Cayman Islands. Aside from the Caymans' huge holdings of hedge-fund assets, the Islands' banking system possesses assets of $1.41 trillion (though this includes some overlap with the hedge fund assets). The offshore, unregulated Cayman Islands has the fourth-largest banking system in the world--after those of the United States, Japan, and Britain. Compare: The United States has 300 million people, the Cayman Islands has 57,000.
The Cayman Islands also is the world's number-two jurisdiction for captive insurance companies (a type of limited-purpose, and increasingly speculative insurance company). Cayman licensees hold $29.6 trillion in assets.
The Queen's Men
To have the Caymans function as an epicenter for globalization and financial warfare, the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy hand-selected the top Cayman officials.
Since late 2005, the Governor of the Islands, approved by the office of the Queen, is Stuart Duncan Jack, a career officer of the British Foreign Office. For his service, Jack was knighted Commander of the Royal Victorian Order, a chivalric order founded by Queen Victoria, which ranks above that of the Order of the British Empire.
Timothy Ridley, the chairman of the vital Cayman Islands Monetary Authority, is a lawyer who was knighted as a member of the Order of the British Empire for his role in building up the hedge funds and their infrastructure during the 1990s.
Two Americans on the board of the CIMA, further indicate the nasty character of that institution.
Warren Coats, who served for 26 years with the International Monetary Fund, was called in by the United States to be an advisor to Iraq and Afghanistan on "rebuilding money and banking systems"--which has resulted in disaster.
Richard Rahn, a member of the Mont Pelerin Society, the oligarchy's coordinating center for deregulation and elimination of the nation-state, is also the head of the Center for Economic Growth. This Center is an offshoot of the rightist FreedomWorks Foundation, run by C. Boyden Gray, heir of the Reynolds Tobacco fortune; and by former House Majority Leader thingy Armey (R-Tex). Rahn's buddy and intelligence operative Gray helped arrange the European Union Savings Directive, which permitted the Cayman Islands government to exempt the hedge funds there from reporting to European countries their "cross-border income."
In addition to the Caymans, the offshore British Virgin Islands has over 2,000 hedge funds registered, and Bermuda has over 500. (*Note that the total number of hedge funds officially registered in British outposts, combined, exceeds the world total, in this unregulated sector.)
The Real Enemy
With the power accumulated from these unregulated offshore British outposts led by the Cayman Islands, the Anglo-Dutch financial oligarchy has assembled an incredible strike force, above and against the interest of nation-states.
Hedge funds are the dominant force in the Japanese yen and to an extent, the Swiss franc carry-trade. The carry-trade has provided an enormous source of liquidity for some of the most risky derivatives and leveraged financial games in the world. The unwinding of this trade, represented by the 3.6% appreciation of the yen from Feb. 26 to March 2, by itself can bring down the world financial system.
According to reports, during 2005, the hedge funds were responsible for up to 50% of the transactions on the London and New York stock exchanges.
Senators Carl Levin and Norm Coleman (R-Minn.)--chairman and ranking member of the Senate Permanent Investigations Subcommittee of the Homeland Security Committee--have shown that the hedge funds are a center for circulating hundreds of billions of dollars in hot-money flows and tax shelters. They document a case of the brothers Sam and Charles Wyly of Texas, who used two Cayman Island hedge funds to store and shelter $300 million from taxes in the United States.
The hedge funds are among the biggest speculators in some of the most precarious derivatives instruments, like credit derivatives, and collateralized debt obligations (CDOs), which are adding instability to the shaking world financial system.
The hedge funds are leading a frenzied wave of mergers and acquisitions, which reached nearly $4 trillion last year, and they are buying up and stripping down companies from auto parts producer Delphi and Texas power utility TXU, to Office Equities Properties, to hundreds of thousands of apartments in Berlin and Dresden, Germany.
This has led to hundreds of thousands of workers being laid off. They are assisted by their Wall Street allies.
Taken altogether, the hedge funds, with money borrowed from the world's biggest commercial and investment banks, have pushed the world's derivatives bubble well past $600 trillion in nominal value, and put the world on the path of the biggest financial disintegration in modern history.
At the same time, in this Anglo-Dutch mix are the big banks, like the British Crown's Dope, Inc. bank, the Hong Kong and Shanghai Bank, Europe's biggest; and the Dutch ABN-Amro, which owns the old-line British Empire investment bank Barings. With this integrated force, using the Cayman Islands as a basing operation, the Anglo-Dutch Liberals have leverage over the world financial system.
The hedge funds' wild forays cannot be controlled by neat resolutions on open reporting. The hedge-fund issue involves the Anglo-Dutch oligarchy, which believes it is in an end-game war, and will do anything to preserve its power. This is the level of the fight by any force serious about tackling the hedge-fund question.
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* EIR's "Glossary of the Global Financial Casino," published May 27, 2005, defines a hedge fund as "a form of mutual fund used by wealthy individuals and institutions to engage in aggressive speculative activities prohibited to ordinary mutual funds. Hedge funds are restricted by law to no more than 100 investors per fund, and these investors are presumed to be sufficiently knowledgeable to understand the risks. Most hedge funds have extremely high minimum investment amounts ranging from $250,000 to well over $1 million.
http://www.tbrnews.org/Archives/a2654.htm
It's interesting that certain parties
with certain opinions are leaving at this time.
It almost makes me wonder what's in the wind
about GFCI that would cause this to happen.
I agree.
I think the next RS is possible before the end of April.
I'm still willing to bet there will be one mid-june.
This is certainly
the opinion of the day and imo, it is fast becoming shared
by many of the long shareholders:
"IMO, If Jim Dial would deliver something, anything, the "shorts" (if any) would run and the stock would run up!"
There is definitely a very real pressure to deliver
something genuine and substantial.
I agree.
Imo, this is a hypothesis:
"There is no unique technology. There is no profitability. There is an ever increasing O/S and float."
However, it is a very strong hypothesis and is quite logical.
Imo, it details the most likely state of current IDWD affairs.
It was possible at one time the technology was unique.
Imo, there is competition that smothers what IDWD claimed.
Now I can agree with you that it IS most likely Downs
has taken long shareholders for a ride.
excellent post.
Perhaps the recent move
by some shareholders to cert their shares
has helped show there IS a possible short problem
I'm quite skeptical
that he answers emails to you
but not to me
Can you say lawsuit?
Forward looking statements only cover so much.
A RS
doesn't count as a bounce to a nickle
fyi: SEC Documents You Should Know
http://www.briefing.com/GeneralInfo/Gold/Features/LearningCenter/edu_SEC_Documents.htm
The Securities and Exchange Commission was created in the '30s, after the 1929 crash to help protect investors. One of the requirements that the SEC instituted to help keep investors informed are the filing requirements. Here's a list of the basic SEC filing requirements and forms.
Filing Requirements
All public companies are required to file financial documents with the SEC, unless they meet certain exemptions.
Public companies can be exempted from filing the standard SEC forms if they have less than 500 stockholders and less than $10 million in total assets. Exceeding either of these criteria requires them to file.
*However, non-filing companies are required to provide shareholders with financial information on request. If you own stock in a non-filing company, you can call them and ask for financial data.*
All other companies must file regular reports of all kinds with the SEC. Since 1996, these filings must be made in an SGML coded format in order to be easily stored in the EDGAR database operated by the SEC. There are numerous sources on the Internet for accessing these electronic filings.
Registration Forms
S-1 and S-2 forms are the initial filings by a private company that intends to become public. The filing of this form is the first step in an IPO. The forms require disclosure of the current owners of the stock, the past revenue and earnings history, a description of the business plan, all known risks associated with the stock (many of these are boilerplate), and the company's intentions for the capital raised.
S-1's are typically filed first with blanks for such things as the number of shares to be sold and the price. An S-1/A is filed when these "blanks" are known.
A 424A or 424B filing is an amendment to the original S-1 or S-2 filings but which contains a substantial change other than filing in the blanks of the original S-1.
An S-4 filing is used for new securities issued when two existing public companies merge or combine businesses.
Financial Reporting Forms
10-K The annual financial filing form required of all companies. The 10-K is the single most complete description of a company, with a complete description of all risks and history of the business. The 10-K must be filed within 90 days after the closing of the company's fiscal year.
10-Q The 10-Q is the quarterly filing of financial reports. It often does not have the three-year history of financials as the 10-K does, though some companies include this. The 10-Q must be filed within 45 days of the closing of the quarter. There is no 10-Q for the fourth fiscal quarter, as the 10-K fulfills this function.
Amendments to previously filed 10-Ks and 10-Qs are identified with a "/A" as in 10-K/A.
Material Events
Whenever a "material" event occurs, the company must file a Form 8-K describing the event and its possible effect on the company's business. By the very nature, 8-K reports have no schedule. A material event includes such things as bankruptcy, a lawsuit, a merger, resignation of a key officer or director, patent denial, or other significant event.
Insider Transactions
"Insider" is a general term for officers and directors of a company. However, most "insider" rules also apply to shareholders who have more than 10% of the company's stock.
Restricted stock, in general, is stock that has been purchased in any way other than a public offering. There may or may not be actual restrictions imposed by the company or underwriters on how the owner can dispose of the stock (often there are). However, for SEC purposes, restricted stock means stock sold directly by the company to an investor in a privately arranged sale. Exercise of stock options generally does not fall into this category.
Form 144 filings report the proposed sale of any restricted stock. While this includes company insiders, it also includes anyone who owns restricted stock, as defined above, regardless of how many shares.
It is important to note that many "insider" trading reporting agencies list filings of Form 144 by directors and officers, but do not include Form 144 filings by unaffiliated shareholders.
It is also important to note that the filing of a Form 144 does not obligate the filer to sell any or all of the shares listed. The filer has 90 days in which to make the transaction, or portion of it. If the 90 days passes without a transaction, a new Form 144 may be filed.
Form 3 filings state the ownership totals for a new officer, director, or 10% owner.
Form 4 filings state the changes to an insider's holdings when they occur. The Form 4 includes purchases and sales as well as exercise of options, disposition by gift, or other transactions.
Form 5 filings are an annual summation of the Form 4 changes to give a annual summation of the ownership by officers, directors, and 10% owners.
Large Position Shareholders
Forms 13D and 13G are used to report positions by large shareholders, defined as any shareholder who owns more than 5% of the outstanding shares.
Form 13D is a required filing by any entity which becomes a 5% holder. This filing must be made at the time (within 10 days) the holder crosses the 5% threshold.
Form 13G is the same form, but used when the person or entity is making the purchase for "investment" only.) Additional purchases by this holder do not have to be reported on Forms 3, 4, or 5, until the holder crosses the 10% threshold.
I agree
The trick is not to TOU in the process.
Don't make such assumptions and then attribute them to me.
I said suits, not Jim Dial.
I specifically did NOT say Jim Dial.
I specifically DID say suits.
The GFCI shareholder meeting was in part, a strange event.
Now what if Jim Dial is caught in a bizarre crossfire
so to speak between the suits and other extraneous factors?
This is a hypothesis.
I've learned there are so many factions in this melodrama,
it is quite unbelieveable except, they do exist. They seem
to have the most bizarre effect on the circumstances
surrounding GFCI.
What I find is: JD is at the center of an unnatural storm which
by my DD, I find slowly being sorted out (at this time).
I may not agree with the JD's methodology, but I'm not him.
Again, this is a hypothesis to explain some GFCI events.
JD and or events may prove me right or wrong.
We'll only know in time.
I'm currently a curious observer with the ability, means
and patience to see how this turns out and have passed
no judgement. I know enough to know it would be incorrect for
me to currently pass judgement. Therefore, I am not bashing.
I am entitled to my opinion whether it is appreciated or not.
I am entitled to propose any hypothesis I suspect is correct.
I am entitled to watch as others disagree.
I am entitled to not engage and debate with dissenters.
I am entitled to ignore whom I choose.
I am entitled to wait and see if events prove me right
rather than post every piece of GFCI DD I have found.
I went and saw the very GFCI tools that were posted once to
not even exist and was served derision.
I will not reward such behavior by offering any DD of mine
except what I choose when I choose in the manner I choose.
"known to a publicly held copororate officer."
What's a "copororate officer" ? (just joking)
It IS funny if you try to say it out loud.
There's no such word as "irregardless".
Here's a hypothesis:
The results of the two audits weren't released because
there was a desire on the part of the major players
inside GFCI for the long retail investors to bail out.
One haunting conclusion I left the shareholder mtg with was
that most of the suits in the room wanted the rest of the
room to just go away. Some have bailed. Most of the larger
long shareholders have held on and even continued to average
down. There's somehow the feeling of a game of chicken and
who will blink first, the suits or the longs.
It's just a hypothesis mind you.
I disagree.
Lintenman shows the very thing this GFCI board is about,
Freedom of Speech and the right to speak one's opinion
about it from their own moral perspective.
Imo, the verdict isn't in.
Lintenman is 100% entitled to his opinion.
I believe we still have some things to see sorted out
in GFCI and hopefully this will happen sooner than later.
The difference in the last PR which said dividend instead
of share exchange was noticeable, but still not hard
evidence one way or the other to prove:
GFCI: scam or not a scam.
It's a matter of IF/WHEN any of this actually happens.
I'm not holding my breath but I haven't pronounced
judgement on GFCI yet either.
I've never seen such a mess as GFCI with so many twists
and turns in things behind the scenes, away from public view.
I am just curious enough and able to see it played out.
I mean here's a company with real and tangible assets
that's selling product and bringing in income,
but the pertinent facts necessary to a solid investment
decision are sorely lacking. Then it gets topped off with
some PRs that are an embarrassment to a long position.
Imo, it's unique enough to stick around and see what happens.
I don't instruct anyone to invest in it.
I don't instruct anyone to sell it either.
I don't do either of these things because while there's plenty
to make normal rational assumptions about,
there's still too much missing from public view
that seems to miraculously appear behind the scenes.
What a soap opera.
Bleh, and I destest soap operas.
I prefer action and dramas myself.
There must be an element of drama in GFCI
that keeps me interested in the outcome.
1st question answer
deals fall apart, there's nothing we can prove.
2nd question:
Jerry Griffith is not Jerry Swinford and it's very possible
that the sale failed due to issues between them or a failure
by Swinford to produce the motors or any number of things.
What if Swinford wanted the deal to fail?
We don't know.
The bottom line is it didn't happen.
It's not black and white.
Imo, it's not proven or GFCI would already be shut down.
That's what I base my opinion on.
Therefore, it is possible it is a scam.
It's also possible it isn't.
Please explain how my posts are a personal attack
on you by IHUB TOU rules.
My posts were not a personal attack
as proven by posts made towards me as a moderator here
which were restored as I was following your example as
a moderator and found this to be an error in judgement
despite your longevity here.
My post WAS quite possibly annoying to you,
however some of yours are likewise annoying.
I reposted the same idea with changes and they were ALL
deleted. I have taken it up with Ihub Admin.
Since the SEC cracked down on email spammers looking
to influence prices of some stocks, there's a rumor
that their next target is message boards and those
who try to influence retail investors.
Your comment:
For the 100,001th time, to help prevent anyone from investing in this scam.
I find your comment fits into the affore mentioned category
unless you are merely a self appointed crusader with some
limited IHUB authority seeking to save others from harm.
By deleting my posts which make this very compliment,
I now offer the question:
Can a public forum message board by way of its posters and
moderators influence a stock such as GFCI in a negative or
positive fashion?
Is GFCI being manipulated from these arenas?
Tou Violations are:
Personal Attack
Duplicate (Double Post)
Spam- Advertising, Promotion
Vulgarity
Off-Topic
Author Asked to Remove
Violation of Privacy
Threat
Sarcasm is not listed.
My posts were on topic, there was no personal attack and
were not TOU violations.
I believe it's very much On Topic to discuss why someone
would not want people investing in GFCI which someone
has openly stated is a scam in their opinion.
Scam has not been proven in the case of GFCI even if
some hold this as an opinion.
Sorry I don't believe it.
Can you prove these meetings actually took place?
The problem
is when they roll up the garage door at CTT
and try to impress a banker.
The place looks like a converted mini-storage.
I simply cannot believe that bankers would waste
their time any more then they have to by law.
some decades ago
I too stepped into the office of a large investment
banking firm. I believe the President of that bank died
from a heart attack induced by the laughter generated
by my request at the time.
Actually, that bank president went bust and died broke.
It doesn't mean anything that anyone has talked to any
big investment/banking firm. Talk is cheap.
Do you really REALLY believe
you are keeping people from investing?
"For the 100,001th time, to help prevent anyone from investing in this scam."
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Bottom line, imo, it's no one's fault but their own
and of course any criminals involved.
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For the who knows what time:
I don't believe forums have the influence they once had.
People have woke up to the fact that a LOT of complete
nonsense gets posted. THAT is my opinion.
Sorry
not impressed with this new news.
The old news that will now be regurgitated like some
kind of anorexic junkie will be equally unimpressive
but will also be......BORING.
Imo, a forum such as this can have value in discussion.
When it degrades into diatribes, it loses that value.
Imo, a lot more power is attributed to forums like this
than actually exists.
Today's PR for example, says dividends not share exchange.
The discussion?
At this point, it's moot (2nd definition).
It only has meaning if this UERI thing actually happens.
So, one can choose to wait and see
or just take the position that it's another worthless pr.
One thing is certain, imo, it's not going to have any
effect on sp or any other real effect until we know for
a fact if the UERI going public thing actually happens.
People that enjoy risk and are unafraid will buy GFCI.
People that feel it's a scam won't buy.
Very few though will be influenced to do either based
on a public forum discussion, imo.
Good for you.
Sell the assets?
There's not much to sell.
It absolutely amazes me that the SEC and our laws
actually allow a company to function like this.
It's disgusting, imo.
No wait!
Tell us how you really feel! (smile, it's a joke)
"Otherwise, you can say anything you want about GFCI, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. And, except that you will be challenged if you believe Jim Dial, your posts will remain.
Len"
Did you mean accept instead of except?
The use of AND followed by a comma is read as "AND AND",
plus figuring out the accept/except thing just made me
want to be correctly informed.
I'm following the Yellow Brick Road obviously.
Talk about taking a dump
it's dropping like a rock
the only flip on this thing is a backwards flip