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It's drying up
besides, what if someone has say 40 million warranted shares
that slipped by the RS and then just dumps them......
so much for any bounce........
IBox updated
with a new portion at the very bottom.
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Sorry if it seems like a lot.
We wanted the IBox to be informative and
useful to posters here.
There's a lot of links now which should help any discussion
here that should serve well as references.
If any feel the IBox is too cluttered or think it's an
improvement, feel free to PM me.
Some are quite impressed with Celsius as a product.
As an investment, imo, we're all still learning.
It's sinking faster than the Titanic! eom.
It is NOT the wrong forum.
The CTBG dividend is very much a subject dear to GFCI longs.
The value of that dividend is very much a hot topic for GFCI
shareholders, etc.
Until the dividend actually happens and CTBG is no longer a
part of GFCI, it is reasonable to expect some crossover.
The CTBG dividend is in fact the first real possible and actual
event to come out of GFCI in a long time.
I question the value of the dividend myself.
call them and ask them
the number is in the IBox.
Might be worth reading....
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/1399247/000121478207000155/0001214782-07-000155-index.htm
It's a good link
but what's in the link doesn't look so good
when you look at the quarterly reports.
Yikes
Speaking of FTXN/GFCI PR fiascos,
there's this excerpt:
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS HOUSTON DIVISION UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION, Plaintiff,
v.
DARREL T. USELTON and JACK E. USELTON, Defendants.
Intelligent Sports, Inc. (Pink Sheets: IGTS/IGTP)
Grifco International, Inc. (Pink Sheets: GFCI)
71. Grifco International, Inc. ("Grifco") is a Nevada-based corporation that purports to be an international provider of oil and gas services equipment.
72. On or about September 20, 2005, Grifco issued 220,000 shares of common stock to the Useltons as part of a Rule 504 offering. These unregistered shares were issued without restrictive legends. On or about October 5, 2005, the Useltons transferred the shares into two brokerage accounts that they controlled.
73. Between approximately October 28 and November 3, 2005, the Useltons orchestrated a spam email campaign touting Grifco. The spam emails, which contained no disclaimers, indicated that "Rocking Stock Times Selects: GFCI" as a "real winner" and that "nsiders tell us breaking news is expected that can make this company go very high immediately." The principal spammer charged the Useltons at least $54,896 for spamming Grifco.
74. During the Grifco spamming campaign, the Useltons sold all 220,000 shares of Grifco stock, realizing proceeds of approximately $71,866. Grifco stock, which appears to have been the subject of other market manipulations, traded between $0.30 and $0.36 during the spamming campaign on average daily volume of approximately 525,000 shares.
75. After the spamming campaign ended, Grifco stock drifted downward, trading at $0.07 by year-end 2006.
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Maybe this is why the FTXN PR spam deal ended up with
them dumping the shares they were paid with
and then doing nothing.
Perhaps they didn't want to be caught like these guys above?
Perhaps they've offered to PR out something when something
tangible is offered to present to the public that won't
end the new FTXN PR guys in jail.
It's looking more and more like things are quickly coming to an end.
Talking about this excerpt?
UNITED STATES DISTRICT COURT SOUTHERN DISTRICT OF TEXAS HOUSTON DIVISION UNITED STATES SECURITIES AND EXCHANGE COMMISSION, Plaintiff,
v.
DARREL T. USELTON and JACK E. USELTON, Defendants.
Intelligent Sports, Inc. (Pink Sheets: IGTS/IGTP)
Grifco International, Inc. (Pink Sheets: GFCI)
71. Grifco International, Inc. ("Grifco") is a Nevada-based corporation that purports to be an international provider of oil and gas services equipment.
72. On or about September 20, 2005, Grifco issued 220,000 shares of common stock to the Useltons as part of a Rule 504 offering. These unregistered shares were issued without restrictive legends. On or about October 5, 2005, the Useltons transferred the shares into two brokerage accounts that they controlled.
73. Between approximately October 28 and November 3, 2005, the Useltons orchestrated a spam email campaign touting Grifco. The spam emails, which contained no disclaimers, indicated that "Rocking Stock Times Selects: GFCI" as a "real winner" and that "nsiders tell us breaking news is expected that can make this company go very high immediately." The principal spammer charged the Useltons at least $54,896 for spamming Grifco.
74. During the Grifco spamming campaign, the Useltons sold all 220,000 shares of Grifco stock, realizing proceeds of approximately $71,866. Grifco stock, which appears to have been the subject of other market manipulations, traded between $0.30 and $0.36 during the spamming campaign on average daily volume of approximately 525,000 shares.
75. After the spamming campaign ended, Grifco stock drifted downward, trading at $0.07 by year-end 2006.
Don't give up on us yet,
I'm sure things will liven up.
The amazing thing is
a long helped them do that with GFCI
albeit he says he was doing it in ignorance
At the rate RAVI is going
it will be #2 in no time at all.
I don't see my post
as strong evidence of JD facing the wrath of GFCI shareholders.
Imo, JD could care less and so could most of the retail
investing community. In other words, (and I may be wrong)
I believe there's much more to the tumble in FTXN than
angry GFCI shareholders.
A little google on JD shows his connections with GFCI and
one look at the GFCI chart from the past two years says
RUN AWAY! from FTXN as well. It becomes toxic by association.
Strong evidence imo, would be if the Spencer group started
back up and followed through or if a significant number of
shareholders brought forth a civil action. This would show
wrath, imo.
I don't see either of these two things happening.
If one did, FTXN would completely crash imo.
The ties between JD and GFCI and FTXN would bring FTXN
to instant ruination as they hit the press.
On the other hand, JD has lost the confidence a significant
number of investors that would otherwise have invested in
FTXN and surely promoted it to fame.
Imo, public boards don't have that large an influence on
stocks anymore as they have lost their credibility as a
information resource.
My belief is that word is spreading in the investment
community as a whole and relating GFCI and FTXN with JD
and this is making a rather negative impact on FTXN.
If JD had followed through and paid us a dividend in FTXN,
I believe current events would be quite different.
If even one PR event had happened, things would be different.
Well, they're not.
If I'm wrong and you're right, then your own efforts to bring
GFCI's soap opera into the view of those who would and do try
with FTXN, will have made an impact.
It's possible, but unlikely imo.
Printmail,
I agree.
This post of yours from the FTXN board is right on target and
quite a good summary. The only point I wonder about is your conclusion.
I have serious doubts that JD will ever have to face GFCI
shareholders. Imo, GFCI appears to have been gutted along
with the shareholders who are left holding empty words. It
looks like there will never be any consequences for the
losses that GFCI shareholders have suffered.
What's happening so quickly with FTXN is a direct reflection
and consequence of what's happened and still happening with GFCI.
-----------------------------------------------------------------
From the IHub FTXN board
Posted by: printmail01
In reply to: STRONGUS who wrote msg# 26 Date:7/13/2007 8:25:53 PM
Post #27 of 27
wow that was BRUTAL drop 3.00 to .12 in few days. I agree Jim Dial reputation is shot and already has doomed FTXN from the get go. He totally did GFCI shareholders wrong, and he continues to under estimate them. I truly believe he thinks he can just wait them out, they will all forget his promises and PR, tours, phone calls, meetings and not make noise about the lies and unfulfilled promises. I truly believe he thinks he can just open new shell and play the same game on another new group of investors, He is trying to hide the GFCI connection, i.e. leaving it out of his bio on UERI website, but investors these days do DD on the web, and when you search for Jim Dial or UERI youll find what most of already know. Jim Dial can NOT be trusted, His PR is IMO not borderline fraudulent it is blatantly fraudulent. I seriously think he is toast, UNLESS - UNLESS he turns GFCI around and makes the shareholders what he promised them, Profits on the investment, then maybe just maybe sentiment will turn for him. But as of today > FTXN will carry his GFCI reputation with investors, AND GFCI investors will NOT just go away and forget, He is going to face these investors until he turns it around and makes profit for them or discloses the truth... IMO of course....
IMO
Perhaps someone will show us a tally
of how many shares were dumped around that PR.
I suspect the next thing we'll be told is that
the stock is being shorted....which is quite possible...
what will be important is how many shorted shares....
OR
do pumpers get paid shares to pump this stock?
Quite honestly, the way this company is run
is enough to create a company of people
disgusted enough to "bash" it.
Or perhaps they invested only to lose money
and then come to believe the company is a scam
which is supported by a large volume of evidence
which can easily be reviewed in previous posts.
Downs email address
supposedly anyway:
biometricsecurity@hotmail.com
the fact it's a hotmail addy goes to show
what a joke this is.
Male bovine manure?
Pretty much about sums up IDWD.
we join up offline
hire an attorney
and go after them.
Wow, talked to Carlos at Raven Moon today
who is the only one there answering the phone
according to him at the number given out in the PR.
Carlos says the company is doing nothing illegal
or immoral with this latest RS.
It seems to me that those
holding restricted shares bought with warrants
1 year ago before July 6 have been INTENTIONALLY
defrauded with this new RS.
Joey's 30 billion shares will be unrestricted shortly
after the July 6 RS.
There wasn't enough time to even contact the company and get
sh restricted shares unrestricted.
It's a catch 22 created by Joey B so there's no hope for
recovery by those who invested in the warrants.
Those restricted shares bought with warrants were to be
protected from a RS for a period of one year.
So Joey becomes the only player that can sell before or after
the RS without suffering from this new RS and all in time
to send it right back down to .00000000000001 in a week or less.
It seems to me, it's time for a class action law suit.
This latest move crosses the line and a jury would
put Raven Moon out of business which it should be, IMO.
This proves beyond any doubt that Raven Moon is a scam, IMO.
80,000 shares dumped and there's a
20% drop in SP this morning.
Now if that doesn't tell you something is wrong,
nothing will.
The manipulation that's gone on with GFCI
is simply disgusting.
Think on this while you're loaded up
and waiting for the monster to move upward.
I found the new websites!
wwww.downs-flew-the-coop.com
wwww.IDS-fall-downs-and-flops.com
ok, just joking.....but they're probably accurate
in the spirit of IDWD
Nah, Downs owes
the guy at the 7/11 for morning coffees
so he's putting him on the board
along with some guy that walks around
with a sign saying the world is coming to an end.
Exactly
Joey has intentionally timed this to
open up his shares bought with warrants
and consequently ripoff those who participated before.
IMO, this is grounds for a lawsuit.
Only problem is.....
about all you can win is more shares that would be RS'd
to death.
I would be surprised that the
RS isn't ASAP, except for the fact
this now gives Joey the opportunity to screw over
those who bought shares with the warrants.
I think this RS might be the one that opens up some
lawsuits. If someone gets their restricted shares released
only to have them wrecked by an RS, that might be the
straw that breaks the camel's back.
Thank you Lentinman.
I know for a fact you've put in a lot of effort
moderating this board. On the behalf of all who
have enjoyed your time spent here, Thank you.
Even when disagreeing with you about GFCI,
I for one have read your posts as informative.
Your open discussion and dialogue has been helpful to me.
I would encourage anyone looking new at GFCI to read your
posts in forming an opinion about GFCI.
I found your opinions on technical analysis of GFCI charts
to be the most interesting. They are still valid today.
Thank you.
Except this newest RS
is designed to screw over anyone
who used their warrants.
If they unrestrict shares bought with those warrants
and then immediately RS them.....
That is pretty nasty IMO.
If it's on the roof
they'll count the open cubic feet of open air above it.
rotfl!!!!!
little people?????
Maybe it's a folding chair
and a 2"x12"x4´ across some cinder blocks?
and a cell phone of course.
Exactly.
I agree 100%.
While IDS Watcher and I
don't see eye to eye at times...
He's offered you a succinct and accurate description
of IDWD. I for one appreciate it being brief and to the point
without the pages and pages of evidence and opinion he
could have offered.
He got right to the point.
For that IDS Watcher has my thanks.
Look back through the posts on this board
and you'll find literally enough to make you run
from IDWD and never look back.
You'll find IDS Watcher has posted a lot of it.
Even though there's volumes posted by him,
and he obviously can't stand the company or the CEO,
don't let that distract you from the facts
he's posted about IDWD.
I would postulate that any positive run in IDWD sp
is nothing more than more of the same old garbage.
I can't see it holding or Downs following through
on anything.
I still own some just to see it through until the end.
IDS Watcher didn't convince me.
I came to my own assessment and now agree with IDS Watcher.
So, if you're looking for facts,
IDS Watcher has posted a lot of them
and his predictions and opinions have been accurate
about IDWD.
Because Joey, CEO of Ravenmoon says
GOT YOU SUCKA! to anyone that buys and then follows it
with a heinous RS.
hehe
couldn't resist the play on words on your handle....
it just fits the CEO to a T.
Does anyone really believe they have any kind of
positive impact on share price?
Look at current sp, it doesn't reflect that it has any impact.
IDWD is pretty much toast, imo.
About the only real news I expect to see from here on
is that Downs has been arrested again or is being sued.
I agree,
another RS is surely on the way.
I'm surprised it hasn't yet.
The problem newbies have is they haven't been through
one of Joey's RS's.
It doesn't take long for 1000000 shares to become 1
rotflmao!!!!!!!!
this totally cracked me up.
Guess he's missed all the previous Joey deeds....
rotflmao!!!!!!!!
Agreed, I expected a RS already.
Well it's due
for a bounce soon if it's going to have one.