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75%...and questions arising
there are so many tantalising issues
not least that Dr Tao will presumably be aware of the
NDA but will not need to talk about such entities as
Trans Canada specifically...
BUT whatever he says..this will amount to data and tests being done on Trans Canada's pipeline...
SO...to avoid such a clunking absurdity or contradiction..
perhaps we can expect some kind of NEWS before Dr Tao
addresses the conference ??
but 75% ....the savings in power and thus expenditure are
simply fantastic...how can that be resistible or not part of
a package that is irresistible ?
Is not this level of saving clearly equatable with huge
financial gains for all customers.? is it not a more
basic economy than the viscosity issue which is also another
gain in terms of flow/volume/DRA's etc ?
The ecological factor is striking...sustainability being
one factor that comes quickly to mind..
AND what a trest to see that they could not believe the results
of the first tests...and so had it verified by independents
none of which can have any intrinsic, substantive or negative link with the nature of Eurekdirect or how this news came to light
Either Dr Tao is telling us the truth about his work and the basic
chemistry and physics within it..or he is not
And like all the other professionals involved in this lengthy
and challenging process, I think DR Tao prefers to live his
life without the complexities of fraud or misrepresentations..
fingers crossed more than ever over the next week or so
chinese bamboo
Once upon a time, over on Raging Bull, the esteemed
Long called Doozhuh gave us the most apposite illustration
of how Stwa and its products will arrive on the scene
Chinese bamboo puts down its roots for a very long time
while remaining invisible...the tubes and fibres go down
and sideways and fill the available space with a dense network
that is solid to the point of being immovable...and no-one knows
it is there..
Until, dear Reader. the green shoots break through an entire surface and the rate of growth is almost visible to the naked eye..like...like..how about a jungly image from a sci-fi horror or gardening movie,,, !!?
And how pleasing to add that Doochuh provided this metaphor just
as the Chinese were visibly in the game - attempting to get hold of the next prototype while not ready to manage the one they had -
ie some time before Trans Canada -with its Chinese pipelines-
became the first focus of North American interest
and before Joule and condensate became public knowledge..
Bamboo will be everywhere
APJ
it does not bother me in the slightest
where those units are...
and even if anyone was certain where they are,
the issue would then become something else...like
how much they cost or how much STWA paid/ bribed
the recipients or were they promotional gimmicks etc
etc ...and whatever other negative spin
could be applied by the cleverer posters
you should sell your stock and spend the proceeds...
maybe on some educational courses...
Footer dear Footer
were those other application possibilities
of AOT...listed in a STWA document or filing ?
It looks kind of familiar....but..
I had not realised how much else is within its range.
sales are imminent and it is just about funny for some to regard
the sale of an entire process or even a revolutionary process
in the same way as the sale of a simple product which is
just a bit better value than an existing product
the universe is a fraud
and Greg Bigger is an extra terrestrial
at the sharp end of the fraud
this is just a fraction of a serious cult called
Exponential and it has planted members
all over the Oil and Energy industry...
sell your shares now
before the Magic White Pipe arrives and
sucks you..magnetises you.. into a total
absence of Viscosity...
Or perhaps it is Elvis on the moon ?
There is certainly someone up there
and it can't be Hitler because he has
just been proved to be on Mars..(all that
red smoke)
Anyway, I am sure some of us will agree
with me...
Oh and Adolf has just told me that the entire
solar system - as we understand it - is a FRAUD
SMILE AOTW..could you explain
a couple of your remarks..please?
Not that I am a great fan of countdowns, I might as
well not miss another specific reason for getting excited...
ie where do you get the number 8, the possible 8 days until some
commitment by Kinder Morgan lease-wise ?? Of course it must be
in the agreement somewhere but was the wording that specific ??
and who or what are LNG...the providers of no competition
to STWA ?
sorry, I am unwell and disenclined to computer pfaffing
thanks to all Longs who post and post..perhaps in their
sleep !
And another re-cap of the facts
in 30 seconds..having read the latest..
the facts which are so clear in their documenting of
STWA progress and which are expressed in
very clear prose which does not have to contain facts
in order to have authority ...and which prose
to accuse of containing
fraudulence of any kind is clearly nonsensical
But if facts are needed...from memory and the last document..
we have 47 patents..a rock solid bond with Temple..AOT
went through Dept of Energy along with Trans C...this was
300,000 bpd...with proof of savings etc and fewer greenhouse
effect..it approved the lease model and aided product reach
before the 5 units could be sent off to other customers
around the world..I know I have forgotten others but no matter..
There is progress Midstream and Upstream..and in the design and
deployment of Joule Heating..and condensate and Utah..
Not forgetting STWA's internal cuts and improved efficiencies
27 seconds....
and the big fact is IT ALL WORKS
sticking to the facts can be easy
one way, given that there are not so many facts
out there as yet, is to refer to statements by a
CEO who can only represent things truthfully and
usually modestly
what Gregg B writes is not just a point of view.
It is a whole mass of facts discreetly packaged
into responsible sentences
another value of this factual mode of communication
is that you would have to call him a fraud etc etc
if you wanted to contradict STWA technical progress
again and again
I don't think any of the posters really believe GB
to be a fraud...which is another reason why we have
to endure posts which technically and convolutedly
amount to that very accusation..
As clear as day
that we are approaching what could be called
a normal investment landscape....
we have emerged from years and years of not knowing
just how unknown or unproven we have been as far as
the average investor is concerned..
us Longs have had our beliefs and obsessions etc etc
but now we can blend in with Joe Public while actually
our CEO is telling us that our years of Faith and Patience
are very much part of his agenda....in terms of STWA's
solutions and ROI being part of the landscape
what could be better ? I can see ducks everywhere..coming
from Araby and Africa....and goodness knows where else..
Alaska and the Alps...
one Happy Oil Family...
quack quack splash splash..
more hot water for the tub..
fiscal results of 2014 are due soon
along with all the other bits of news
good to see so many matter of fact references to
'our solutions' being communicated to 'decision
makers' etc....as well as ROI being a natural
focal point for those in the know...ie not us..
yet
this is probably the beginning of a normal
investment landscape...with it becoming even more
normal after the first contracts..
right now ...with QS and M Group on the move.
we are just about visible...
if I could choose, be in two places at once,
would I prefer to be buying stock now...as
opposed to the experience of a decade of...ups and downs?
Yes !!
listen to all the happy ducks..a global quackery..
some of the Arab ones are stunningly beautiful !
Another day,another lovely bath
watching the Happy Oil family, nice
and orderly, lots of yellow duckies..all in a line..
another day without the wolf or the fox and all the
other Naughties.. this is good news for these fellers..
after a long journey...how pleasant to relax
and wait for the Ugly Ducklings to be celebrating
the Spring
funny that Kinder should be German for children
splash splash
Lying in the bath, counting the ducks
enjoying the peace and warmth in the
steamed up tub,
there they all are, sitting so pretty, all in a row,
kind of trotting along in their happy family...big ones,
little ones, some not so easy to see or with just a yellow
bit visible (in the steam)
how good it is to hear them all being counted
all the time....safely looked after and secure..
it's pretty clear they are all going to jump in
and who cares in what order...?
even the Ugly Ducklings will not want to miss
out..
and who cares what exactly happened and why to
some prototype ...?
not me...
very soon, the call will be
"my bath runneth over"
the happy Oil Family
a lot of ducks are now sitting so prettily
and in such a long row....by the bath tub
(in the Oil Family bathroom)
that we Longs can look forward to lying in an equally long
bath ...watching the little yellow beauties
slip happily into the warmth
and all the aches and pains will be forgotten
and still they will keep coming
until we are heard to call out
!my bath spilleth over ¬
wow. lining up line by line
to win the prize for the most
meaningless lines and posts
good luck ...it is going to be
a close race
very big improvement of page in all ways
good to see the facts and figures which Quality
Stocks can include and all the global context
up to 56% reduction in viscosity...as one of at least
6 strong sales points..
let's see how soon the greatly more relaxed
Kinder Morgan can provide some more statistics
maybe the share price could move up a little
before the bigger news arrives
shorting etc must be the only process that certain posters
know about,,so not a great time for them...
got to get the timing right...
" incredible growth potential" says the boss
of Quality Stocks, Mr MacCarthur
and I guess he would not have accepted this new client
unless there was a realistic chance of ordinary growth
let alone incredible growth
another good solid step in the right direction
earliest we might hear good news from Kinder Morgan...?
Early March..?
pandavoine - thanks - my focus
was more on the potential for PR for stwa..
who knows, theoretically, that could take place
whatever happens vote-wise ? maybe even more loudly
when President O vetoes it..?
But but..all this is occurring BEFORE the environmental
studies are published ? cart before the horse ?
if this is an obligatory document, maybe that could be
our PR ??
grasping at straws maybe...but anything to move the
weight of the NDA..
to break out from the monotony
of a very familiar kind of post and a
single pattern
if anyone can manage something other than a pressing of
the Repeat button ??!!
Again : does anyone have views on whether the ongoing Keystone
debate and voting and veto process
could have some positive PR effects for AOT.. whether in terms of
what is said by politicians or lobbyists or whoever about TC's
credentials or even New Green credentials...and how things have
changed since the last application ?
Is it really possible that the whole affair could take place
with total silence or effectively a non moving out from under the weight of the NDA ??
well lesl,that is indeed something to hope
for...that TC's voice will be heard publicly and for the
first time and in such a forum or context..
or that the politicians will directly or indirectly
refer to a new Green approach by the energy industry..
it does not seem so fanciful - that Obama is presented with
the positives of this initiative
what a coup for STWA if this happens...could it have been
planned all along ?
ie why bother with incy-wincy kinds of publicity when you know
that your products are going to be announced from the biggest
rooftop of all ??
surely this is worth some salivation..?
even if it ends up in an already full bucket of wasted
dribbles....?
none of these tests and processes
would have begun unless AOT works
it is just a question of sorting out the
varying efficiencies and savings in different
circumstances and with different oils..
that is common sense...
as is the bond between STWA and TC whose facilities and tests
were the best so far
havent said that one for a while
Zerosnoop - I am aware of your good intentions
in re-posting the same article and in re-affirming the
same positives
and I am hoping that the political activity around the Keystone
vote will include some reference by TC of their green credentials
and even AOT,,whether in the success or failure of XL
however the votes go or Obama vetoes or not, it would help us maybe
both ways - via TC knowing the demands on its wallet and what is
available for AOT on its other pipelines
just a thought
thanks Lesl....but could AOT get
some good publicity in any event ?
if it's a no or a veto, well, maybe TC will find their
mouth and actually spell out the truth about their new green technology
and why Keystone needs to be seen in a new light....?
and if it is a negative week , then at least TC now knows
more about how to plan their capital expenditure...and
how much money is available for AOT?
Some clarity for us all...
??
lesl......and when we wake up
is the Keystone Bill being dealt with this
coming week ?
that would help to bring this saga to a new
phase..
Black Spotted Swan and others
yes thanks that is clearer and what I thought you meant
and what I'd suppose to be true re smaller organisations
there was a slight doubt whether you meant that posters / investors should or should not expect the smalls to be waiting on the Bigs
Over on Raging Bull, drfeelgoodcal has suggested that February 11 or 12 (as I recall) is the date of a regular report..(8k ?)
the more I think about TC's position, in the light of recent posts and links, the more it looks as if TC really expected the Keystone project to be resolved - and resolved favourably or at least definitively - while AOT was being tested and finalised....
but such happy harmony has not happened...and all the copious thanks to TC in the 10q looks like both an assurance of Best Possible Deal and of full understanding if TC has to wait on Keystone...
Is it not true - additional to the AOT Keystone Installation page on this I Hub - that TC wanted to use AOT to sail into a Greener
future and that this future was supposed to start with Keystone
being green lighted given its being so Green??
I mean Pandavoine's link makes it very clear...TC is wanting to
buy the necessary land..and they are sending their man to Washington who is being written about by the New York Times..
time-wise, I bwlieve, our best hope is for a contract with built-in allowances and variations..which can come into effect (or not)
as and when the Keystone saga develops..
why can't they focus first on all their other pipelines ?
here is THE TC question for me
if you were on the board of TC
Would you feel able to decide about what funds right now are
available for AOT ?
would you feel able to decide about AOT deployment
while totally ignoring Keystone ?
Black Spotted - sorry, I am not clear
are you saying at the end that the smaller companies
do not need to hear about TC and KM successes before they
order..or they do need to hear this ?
I can imagine a smaller company would need to know whether
it needs to conduct tests of its own...and if those costs
can be saved
thanks folks for those thoughts re bigger picture..
I can't believe it matters so much about AOT's precise
achievements...as long as its savings are significant and AOT
offers long term benefits
Martin Luther King day ?
Have a good holiday....
anyone worried about the drop in oil price ?
doesn't it mean, at worst, that the return on
investment is delayed for a measurable while ?
nonsense. an NDA is an important milestone
and if it was not in place, as sure as apples,
people like you would be making the most of the
absence
your posts are predictable for all the wrong
reasons
that is surely where it started Zerosum
if a mere entertainer may insist (!), I would bet
you a month's supply of...whiskey or a grog of choice,
that a lot of exhaustive testing took place before
the world got to know about a second phase of trials
etc...and without the success of the former, the latter would
never have occurred..
As I recall from one London meeting, TC was keen on marketing
the AOT on STWA's behalf..not to mention TC's Chinese operations
being an issue..
the 10q and other documents make it very clear that TC can be
sure of Top Dog and Best Deal status - but it is clear also that STWA has many other fish to fry...so let's hope Kinder M are a lot less complex...
that tactic of width and diversification has been one of Gregg's many successes..
if an acquisition was to be made by STWA, I wonder if the first
contract/s would be a pre-requisite...whether financially or in terms of Press...
to terminate the lease was normal and predictable
that is the purpose such specific leases are designed for ...
and such a lease is what a prototype should be governed by...
and that is how such tests should be managed..
and that is how business should be conducted
and NDA's respected
there is no other way in the real world i.e.. beyond
the tedium of this board and its ethos of paying VERSUS non-paying subscribers
the facts are that certain people have even less
than nothing to say
and should probably watch out for their own contracts/ leases
even if their 'success'' income is measured via provoking responses
which aims to maintain the integrity of this board
how about the burn rate ? the court cases or Kyte's raids on
shares ? or is Gregg Bigger a phoney and what about
the patents ?
etc etc
what an intriguing post DPS
it begs many questions re information which I guess you would
have supplied if you could
rhyming with tractor seems to rule out 'extractor'?
since it does more than rhymes with it ?
but that would be my guess...
can I see the extractor somewhere.. under its catalogued name ?
well said Pandavoine
we are spoilt for choice in picking the
most unconvincing negativities...whether
tonally or otherwise,
it has got to be a struggle to believe the adopted
personas are not gazing yearningly at their own
delete button
do we believe those who appear to be so sincere..
via painful declarations of doubt ? ..via the
due diligence and the 'scholarship' it is based on?
all of which (having started with an apparently open
or innocent question ).. leads into a really sincere expression
of substance, all so sincere that it is plonked into one messy paragraph that just HAD to come out in one sincere blob,
oh yes and spelling mitsakes add to there (THEIR) authenticity..
the latest revelation to a scholar ?
Nothing less than that Trans Canada quitted in quick time...
Painful.
squeezing sounds comparatively pleasant
compared to the years of the thumbscrew being
applied to the world's most shorted share
over many years
and yes, moi aussi, je suis charlie..following
the always exemplary Armour
The journey towards $200
is surely going to start soon.
The groundwork has been done and stwa has many fingers in
all the right pies and my wonderings are whether the Don Dickson
factor will help the Kinder Morgan contract to overtake the
Trans Canada one
i would dearly love to buy some more stock
I also wondered if there are shares to be bought in
I Hub or whoever owns it..
It just goes on and on allowing re-cycled arguments to go
round and round....Nice work if you can get it
no doubt about it, that is a great article
it presents all the successful R & D in its rightful
context of successful integration into the industry
that needs it so badly...
we can also see a family of products which dovetails into the offer of profound improvement in oil management, all of which products have been designed with absolute regard for optimal and bespoke solutions for clients around the world..
it would be perverse not to expect contracts as the natural
conclusion to so much careful planning and execution
Trans Canada has a secure place in AOT history, they will get the
best deal as the 10q strongly hints - the Lovers are hot and home, just as much when planning to go to a hotel for a week as when sending mixed or hinty little messages in semaphore or in any other language.
Lets hope this article is just one part of PR
which guides the market into rolling out its support
today would be very acceptable!!
thanks also from me to the Longs
let's hope for a Happy New Year for all of those
people
around the world
who have had to wait patiently for their dues
and while
enduring the slings and arrows of outrageous fortune
in our Long STWA case, let's hope we soon will not
have to maintain the integrity of this board
and our family and friends will be eating humble
pie...and the weight will be lifted...
maybe the bounce back of the pps will continue today
the language of love
of course the relationship with TC remains good and
destined to lead to a contract, its consummation.
it was always clear that the first phases with first customers would be slow and partly about finding out as they went along just what different versions/settings of AOT could do in new and different circumstances. It was open ended
But the whole thing would never have started unless its
general success was known up front, with laboratory successes
also having been replicated in real world situ.
As with the language of love, the flirting, the masques (the
NDA), this kind of success does not have to be spelt out in black and white signposts at every juncture : sometimes it can be inferred
or hinted at and be all the more real just because of the
coyness and artifice that both players know is necessary and
expected...they both had all sorts of fun with the uncertain fate of the solitary AOT...
sometimes the success (success of the relationship = success of AOT) is in whole words and phrases like the 'continued' interest or the ongoing refinements of AOT..
or else it is just in the common sense of all the other events and
relationships now in play
my uninteresting answer to your
uninteresting question is that the crude
was of an industry standard that was relevant
to the tests being conducted and thus to the potential
interests of oil managers in general
and the same applies to the crude which they
switched to
but why not get in touch with the organisation
in question..?
a message to fellow London investors
and Mr Damon Heath in particular
please do read and learn ONLY from the likes of
Zerosum, Tedco, As I see it, Footer, Shi468,
Smile AOT Works, Flubug, Pandavoine, Zerosnoop,
Zero2200
and many more posters and those others who no longer
post
These are the posters and the investors whose positions/ investments are based not just on the history and the facts of STWA's progression,and its documents,...
...but also on all the pre-requisites of any business or professional practice, all its logic and common sense, and not forgetting the specifics of pure science and its solid research moving into commercialisation..nor the subsequent and necessary secrecy that goes with positive data and its vast monies.
we have not been helped by the absence of crystal clarity that might or might not be describing STWA's move into a dominant position..
And no-one could have foreseen the precise nature of the road ahead for this new science..no-one could have foreseen how the gradual commercialisation of such radicalism would always fail to move the share price upwards..
but there is a long sequence of events and achievements which
does amount to a confirmation of the real success that is concealed by the NDA...a concealment always being exploited
by negative posters who seek to buy the shares at the best price.
Happy Christmas