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we're all here... some, like me, just lurk now. IMO, it's all downhill in the trusted computing soapbox derby, and Wave will be the big winner at the finish line. How long our downhill run is, or how how fast the race is is irrelevant. Posting at this point is like nervous parents cheering on the sidelines -- it won't affect the outcome of the race. JM(jaded)O.
Hi Doc -- it ain't over till it's over and your expectations for seeing it through are, IMO, very well founded.
See ya in Vegas (and bring something from Scriabin!)
Right on, weby. we are watching with microsoft and cisco, the saga of gm and ford being played out today before our eyes... who, 40 years ago, would have understood volkswagen, and similarly, who, today really understands the disruptive, looming transformational impact of Wave??? Now, back to my (self-satisfied) lurking.
soxrule noticed it -- :")
What a silly question, given the public documentation available.
Hey, don't you guys remember the grumman bearcat and hellcat of wwII... or the wildcat of korean war fame? Ahistoricity pains me!
What does it take? Listen to Papa Gino!
It's inevitable that at some point in the near future there will be will be increases in the number of authorized AND issued shares. The real question, which you assidiously avoid, is what will be the net capital value of the company when dilution caused by the issuance of additional authorized shares, occurs. Context means everything, and your so-called suspicians, stated without the benefit of explicitely stating what context you have in mind, that is, without describing whether Wave will have a larger net capital value (due to increasing revenue) or a smaller net capital value (due to decreasing revenue), is meaningless.
BTW, I am not going to 'go away' to the other board, as you demanded that I do in your private message. Based on that demand, it is you who is the censorship freak, not me, because you think that this message board has been successfully transformed into a monopoly soapbox forum for bashers with no opportunity for rebuttal. Keep dreaming... your vaunted 'free speech' doesn't work that way.
keV, 'dilution' refers to dilution of the VALUE of one's position, not in a change in the nominal NUMERICAL RATIO of a person's position relative to any other position or to authorized and issued versus versus authorized, but unissued shares. You are not even raising a substantial objection to the RS, but rather merely playing around with words like 'dilution' to confuse the uninitiated or unsophisticated investor. I would think you could come up with something better than that.
last time i looked, we did have an idea of the number for 'expected' revenue. What comes through from the recent Dutton, etc. presentations???
Reread the RS announcement, as it says that incresased liquidity in order to attract increased investor and institutional interest might be a result. so what's wrong with that, since the proportionate value of authorized shares available for sale remains the same, whether before or after the reverse split. Where do you come up with this silly imagery, 'back-door' dilution???
Opinions are DISPUTABLE. Facts are refutable. English is a language, and some indisputably speak it correctly. THAT is a fact, and not an opinion.
How can one 'refute' an opinion? It just doesn't make any sense.
A high assurance platform is one that conforms to technical standards that embody the highest required level of secure capability, but I don't know what these standards are.
Weby, your meticulous rebuttal of the facile 'opinions' of that poster is commendable. I wish I could share your patience.
Blah, blah, blah...(in all fairness).
OT (to lugan) e-mail me at al-waliid@sbcglobal.net.
I second that! The Yahoo WAVX board is intellectual mediocrity raised to the level of a superlative.
Rachaelelise, 'she' doesn't want to 'short the heck' out of this stock, 'she' wants to disseminate misinformation about Wave in this widely read public discussion forum in order to dissuade potential new buyers from considering buying the stock, and thereby to put pressure on those of 'her' ilk who still have considerable large short positions. It is a totel waste of time to respond to 'her' as if 'her' expression of concerns had any serious intent.
Dame23, I think I'll open my wallet and get in line behind PEP.
You say, "...so-called" NTT agreement? C'mon, your deprecative agenda is still showing.
What don't you understand about "We ARE prepared."?
"Alias born on Wednesday, June 21, 2006". That says it all.
Your advice is not worth much, as you suggest at the end of your post, for the simple reason that a company doing a reverse split, in the context of the impending news anticipated for Wave, is equally as likely to see a total share valuation increase post-reverse split, as it is likely to see a total share valuation decrease. Your misleading post is about five days too late to illicit the response you seek. I'm being both patient and polite with you here, so please don't bother me with a response.
This came across the radio news: hackers breached data security at the Dept. of Agriculture. Personnel records of 26,000 employees compromised -- names, social security numbers, etc.
Some here agree with your conclusnd and some don't. The RS proposal does not need a unanimous vote to pass or be defeated.
i think everyone understands all the options of the RS proposal, both pro and con, or positive versus negative,
and that that is why most have become fatigued by the further discussion of it. No-one is trying to suppress negative criticism or discussion of the proposal, because beyond the letting off of steam, such discussion is now deemed pointless. Most have progressed beyond the 'I want to commiserate... I share your pain/anger/disgust/or whatever, with you' stage of analysis.
Perhaps management feels that achievement of breakeven, given Wave's share price history, would not of itself be enough to unstick the share price and meet the NASDAQ minimum bid requirement. If we are ramping up in operations, as well as beginning to achieve breakeven revenue flows, we will certainly need to finance the increased operatinal cash requirement, while concurrently maintaining the higher share price to support the financing of such a steep ramp-up in operational activity. This is IMO only.
More anticipated revenue materializing. It looks like the sugar's dissolving very rapidly. Sell now, while you still can!
Nice STMicro announcement...! Are those who were P.O.-ed by the RS proposal selling this morning? Inquiring minds want to know.
If I have a cup of sugar, and the fine grains aggregate and and my sugar gets lumpy, have my grains of sugar been taken away? You're the engineer... you be the judge.
Mashallah to our e-GYP-tian friend!
your shares are not "being taken away", Micro. That has been explained ad naseum here over the last two days. Get a grip... you are still reacting emotionally.
thanks for your opinion. Sage words of wisdom for all to see...!
It's noted in the RS Proposal. There is a post here explaning exactly that (OS adjustment) point.
Ramsey, You're being rational here. You know that's not allowed... I'm putting you on 'ignore'.
Zen, 'crisis' versus 'opportunity' -- I think about that singularity all the time.
Why did you not include a reference to the law(s) which state the circumstances in which federal securities law PRE-EMPTS state blue sky laws??????????????? I smell a smelly AGENDA here. That's nothing new for this board though.
isn't that a matter of form over substance, if the US market finds it more convenient to buy the stock rather than the ADR, and most U.S. retail investors buy the ADRs?
Not a long-winded historical re-cap, IMO, but a pretty accurate, unemotional summation of our 'slog'. And I see the light at the end of the tunnel.