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BlueBliss -
Post that L2 when you get a chance with some comments of what you thought was "interesting". I noticed someone sold over 3MM shares at the bid today, either very desperate to sell or they were trying to create some fear.
We all want news, patience is the only thing that will help us get through the next 5-6 weeks.
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I'm glad the guys here can buy and sell with TD again, but I have to agree... the price held up much better when that brokerage was not allowing trades. Either they are shorting it, or a lot of behind the scenes flippers use TD for trading HNSS.
Either way, I'm eagerly looking forward to hearing the Black again. His investors need updates from the past 4 months of company activity.
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Maybe they'll come for the chart and stay for the real play, i.e. the MicroFill, which, per HNSS, is going to be a "game-changer".
We shall see..
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It was on their website. Still is last I checked. Www.healthnostics.com
It was the shareholders that rejected the buyout offer. There were not enough shareholders that wanted the buyout and therefore we did not have the required 50% for the proposed sale.
Congrats! Did they give any explanation as to why you were restricted and subsequently allowed to trade again?
"Do you think there really is a machine?"
Yes.
"Have you verfied that there really are patents pending on it"
Who said there were patents pending? The PR said the MicroFill had several "patentable" technologies. Have you verified that it doesn't?
"Have you seen any pictures of the machine?"
What would a picture prove? Answer: nothing. We are ALL waiting on the actual launch. Not some stupid picture.
"Have you seen any numbers that show how many wipes the company is actually producing because Black has never published any?"
Nope. Have you seen numbers that say they AREN'T producing wipes?
"Have you toured their wipes plant?"
Nope. Have you toured their plant to prove it doesnt exist?
"Have you verfied any of Black's PR's at all as being legitimate?"
Nope. Have you verified that ANY of Blacks PRs are NOT legitimate?
Short answer is no one knows anything, one way or another, until Black gives us news. Some choose to think the glass is half full and others think its half empty. There is no evidence either way, yet, and we will only know when the company issues a PR. You act like the lack of information is a bad thing for the company.... We don't know what's going on so why own the stock if you assume its bad?
Just looked at that app... not impressed. They are using a "proprietary" volatility indicator to extrapolate the future price of whatever stock you are looking at. Problem... the previous price movements are not necessarily indicative of future price movements (i.e. you can't use the past to predict the future).
Also, it shows APC (Anadarko Petroleum) is going to open up around $81 today, a full 5% lower than where it closed on Friday. Not sure this is possible since they are supposed to be releasing earnings after the market closes today, and the numbers are supposed to be pretty good. I guess we will see in an hour and a half.
As for HNSS, only the Company is going to get us moving again by releasing positive news on the MicroFill or Financials.
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"status is DARK"
Care to elaborate?
(Have to combine posts, I'm limited to 2/day)
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Plenty of shares at .0009 for you to buy if you are trying to initiate a position here.
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TA was reinstated as of January 27th. Are you able to trade HNSS again? Have you tried?
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Did the investment community "not believe" when they bought shares and caused a recent 400% rise in pps? How come you only post doom and gloom when the price is falling? The price rose 400% on "no news" and you didn't think that meant the investing community believed in HNSS, yet when the pps falls on no news, you blame Black for not giving out verifiable information and say no one believes in HNSS. I think you are wrong in your assessment of the "investment community", the only cause for today's decline is impatient sellers and/or flippers trying to crater the pps so they can buy back in lower and try to flip again.
The long term investors are still accumulating shares and still think Black will deliver. We all agree we need news, but to state as fact that the investment community does not believe in HNSS or Black is just simply untrue.
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Just placing my bet that HNSS pps will be higher in the future than it is today. I personally believe we will see some positive news from the company by the end of quarter, but obviously its just my opinion.
Not much to talk about until we get news. I can tell you investors are not "sleepy" though, most have been working overtime during the past few months to bolster their holdings and lower their average pps to take advantage of the coming news.
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*EDIT* Try calling and asking to place a phone order. I'm curious to see what they say. Also, I don't forsee a big sell off like you do, there are not that many people that are having issues buying and selling the stock. Those that are having issues very likely do not own a significant enough position to really do much damage to the stock price unless they act like idiots and start bid whacking just to get out.
The majority of the OS (from the last numbers we saw) is locked up in the longs hands and is not going to be sold at these prices. I wouldn't worry about a big sell off.
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Have you tried calling in the trade? It costs more, but I think they allow you to make a trade over the phone instead of via the internet.
100% gain is great! You must have bought fairly recently then? Strange that you can't sell.
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*EDIT*
ANYDAZE, don't know how you want me to verify it to you other than just telling you... I can buy and sell with Fidelity. I have made transactions very recently with no issues whatsoever.
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Etrade and Fidelity both allow it (I use them both), and I've heard ScotTrade allows it but they charge extra fees for penny stocks.
Good Luck.
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Its comforting to know that even though some people are trying very hard to push the pps down (as evidenced by the recent bid whacks down to .0009 today), the price recovers quickly because there are only a small handful of people will to sell at these prices. The sells seem to be coming from people bent on driving the price lower (presumably to try and instigate some panic selling?).
News from the company can come anyday, best we all just hold tight and see what happens.
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Did you look at the screenshot? Bid size was the exact same before and after the 260k share trade at .0011.
The only MM at .0011 was HDSN with 250k shares. There was no MM showing 5,000 shares, so while I understand about some MM's hiding their lot sizes, it doesn't have to do with my inquiry.
Look at the screenshot again and you'll see HDSN sitting on the bid with 250k shares all alone. The next thing that happened was a 260k share trade at the bid, and yet, HDSN did not get any of those shares. So who did? Whoever bought the shares did not ever show up on my L2. If they had shown up on L2, the lot size of the bid would have gone up (it stayed at 250k through the entire transaction).
So what does it mean when there is a sell to the bid, but the lot sizes on the bid (or the ask) do not change after the sale?
When 55k were bought at the ask, you can clearly see the lot size on the ask being reduced by 55k. After the sell to the bid, the bid lot size stayed the same. Who got those shares if the bid size never changed? Anyone with some experience care to explain?
I also read that in an article this weekend. I forgot to post, thanks for reminding me.
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Well... we are still WAY better off than we were a month ago, and most of us were smart enough to buy up the shares in the .0004-.0008 range. I don't know about you, but my average is looking pretty dang good now.
You are a loser
All that's left is to be patient and let Black do his job.
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Buddy... we've gone over this a thousand times. Its not a chill on the stock, the stock is trading just fine. Certain brokerages do not want to pay extra fees that are imposed by working with Penson and so the BROKERAGE chooses to not allow the stock to trade.
I have Etrade and Fidelity and have used BOTH to buy shares of HNSS this week.
Your issue is with your brokerage, not HNSS. You might try calling them and trying to place a trade over the phone as sometimes they allow that even when they don't allow online trades.
Last post for the day so I won't be able to respond, but just know that most of us have no problem trading the stock and it is in fact retail investors who are buying. Its not some conspiracy by MM's or the company to make it look like the stock is still trading. It is, in fact, still trading. Just not if you have Zecco or TDA.
Good luck getting this sorted out.
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I wonder if he did that too, but even if he didn't... a LARGE percentage of the OS was bought by longs when the pps was in the .003-.001 range and I know those shares will not be easily sold. Most of the shares are in good hands.
You're right in saying that we are establishing a higher base from which to launch when Black starts to issue PR's again.
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Very odd. NITE moved from .0015 to .0035, haven't seen NITE move like that pre-market before. RAFF is also at .0035 but they have been their since as long as I can remember.
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Person Mark, will be checking out NBRI
Smart investors are buying up the available shares in anticipation of company news. Be it; financials, MicroFill update or news on the TA suspension and possible investigation of manipulative trading, we are definitely on the uptrend now that the manipulation has subsided (hopefully lawsuits for those groups and individuals involved will follow).
Social media is starting to pick up on HNSS's recently acquired momentum, might see more eyes on HNSS this coming week.
Check out my previous post for a nice chart of HNSS's recent progress.
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Our good friend Punk sent me this great looking chart this morning. HNSS has been on a huge upward trend since the start of 2012 and looks to be gaining even more momentum in anticipation of positive financials and/or news of the MicroFill launch!
http://investorshub.advfn.com/uimage/uploads/2012/1/15/upebv14JAN2012_HNSS+Chart.jpg
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Exactly, HNSS would not have a regulatory body take a look at their company for malignant trading if their books were not in proper order.
I think the silence (while frustrating at times) is going to turn out to be a very positive move for HNSS and its investors.
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Nice to be steadily building a higher base prior to news from the company. Should provide a higher launching point when good news hits.
As another poster stated, its amazing what the pps will do when it is not being manipulated by MM's and posters.
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Yep, without VFIN and VNDM we only have retail sellers that are either 1)flipping for smaller profits after buying in the .0004-.0007 range or 2)long term investors looking to lock in a little profit.
We can move up very easily.
*EDIT* As I wrote that, NITE came in and undercut the ask. Move it up NITE!
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All it takes is buying on the ask, and not even in huge quantities either. MM's took HNSS WAY too far down over the past few months and now that they are gone we should trend steadily upward until news hits. Those that were fortunate enough to buy some shares when HNSS was maliciously mis-priced will make a nice ROI off their ability to see through the MM bs.
Still looks to be a fair amount of sellers at .001-.0014 (that I can see on L2), these guys probably bought down in the .0004-.0006 range and are just looking to secure some profit. Once we get through them, the shares will keep getting thinner and thinner.
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Completely agree with your post. Something has been in the works and it is very possible that Black is, or has been, working with a regulatory entity to look into how his company's stock has been traded and manipulated.
Since the start of 2012, certain MM's have been mysteriously missing from the ask. The same ones that, for the past several months, had created so much downward pressure on the stock price by selling (seemingly) infinite amounts of shares at the ask are now suddenly quiet. And what happens? HNSS pps is free to move up over 100% YTD without any news. It will be great to see where the pps is once Black is able to disclose what has happened over the last several months, release FY2011 financials and update us on the MicroFill update/launch.
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