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Not necessarily. It does confirm stock manipulation....millions of stocks traded to just thousands....I suspect we will see more millions traded blimps until acquisitions are fully funded..BUY LOW.
PAIVIS CORP (PAVC) OTC Type: OTCBB
Short Interest for July 2007
Short
Interest Percent
Change Average Daily
Share Volume Days to
Cover
45,826 173.75 127,939 1.00
Walmart would never carry these calling cards because they would want to go directly to the company making them in China instead of paying Paivis to be middle man.
My guess would be gas stations, convenience stores, and truck stops. I am skeptical as well concerning the viability of Paivis' bread and butter product...calling cards. BTW, you might check eBay too.
For the record, most of us are already huge bagholders. But, I would rather be a bagholder than to sell my stock at such a low price as to create a call options market for PAVC.
25,000 is about 5 orders being filled for a whole trading day based upon Level II. Likely and appropriate reaction to buying even if at these low volumes. This keeps the shorts on their toes even if the market is being manipulated.
Where numbers are you looking at..........Volume or O/S?
Watch the odds...144 Filers. Watch the evens....buyers at low low prices.
Google (no qoutes): 144 filings holding period; read for yourself.
I am in the same boat. No word.....no worries on my part. Not yet two year. When you Google form 144, it mentions three years in some places.
Even if PAVC is not substantially short, even though it goes against what most people think, there is a reason the PPS is artificially low. In addition to 144 Filing fees registering PAVC shares, someone maybe even Paivis wants to have a monopoly to BUY LOW. If you can buy, at least cover your shares whether or not you have your certs.
Good catch. So, is Paivis registering the 144 Filing shares on an ad hoc basis with the $300?
Looks like you are right about 144 sell-off. Lots of money left on the table IMO..........Keep an eye on Level II..
True. I have not and don't plan to.....but, I don't have my PAVC shares converted yet either.. FIDELITY. $300 is very small compared to what they stand to lose by selling now. I think we all agree that the PPS is being manipulated to be artificially loooowww. It does not matter why....it does matter if people fearful of being bagholders become like the goldminers who sold their stake just before others found the huge veins of gold. At this point, not yet two years, I have just enough shares to not care how long it takes for Paivis to get me my certs. But, I may be in the market to double down when 144 Filers fold their hands.
Likely, by end of year...over $1. But, don't sell. That last Vickers filing was for very disappointing because that person will settle for $15,000 when their stock is really worth at least $200,000, maybe even $1,000,000. IMO, Paivis should auto-unrestrict the shares after two years. Actually, the SEC may require it. I would have to do some research on that though.
Payday for those who were not locked out with restricted shares........Don't sell so fast, there could be another payday.....PAVC could be a serial payday stock.
It would be nice to know the merger candidate(s). If it goes like Jupiter, likely it will be in yet another industry. I suppose this could go on and on for years....sound familiar?
Doesn't seem to add up given the recent PR concerning acquiring other companies and/ or seeking to be acquired.....Someone...Anyone...Please reply again concerning need for 144 (or !$$ in all caps) Filing if held for over two years. Does the restriction remove itself or cost less than 144 Filing if done after one year but before two years? Also, it would seem that PAVC would buy back shares or do multiple R/S before listing on a major exchange due to extremely large OS not to mention PPS.
Tax,
Thanks for info. What was the price at the time of your alleged short sell?
I estimate payment of $600,000 (20,000,000 shares / 10,000 shares per person * $300) to Paivis for Form 144 Filings. That is equivalent to Paivis selling 4,000,000 shares at today's closing price. This seems totally unreasonable and grounds for protest by not playing this game. I will not be filing. However, I am planning to buy insurance next week.
On the surface, that may be true. Perhaps, a poll is in order. We may be able to quickly determine what brokers are virtually short given saleable shares, that should have been restrictive, that were sold without first being bought and saleable.
Would it be better to hold for two years and remove restrictive legend? I believe asking for certs is asking to be even more of a bagholder than we have already been. At some point, enough has to be enough.
Form 144 Filings are suspect....If you file using prior day's closing, are you stuck with that price? My guess is that someone is accumulating Form 144 shares, not including Stahl's bogus Form 144 filing, that could hit the market all at the same time; the ultimate market manipulation. Sub-penny is a real possibility..So, do you buy or file your Form 144? Also, I wonder what would happen if everyone cancelled their Form 144.
$0.37/share average within range for June 18, but the volume of 69,348 is more than volume for the entire day (Source: Yahoo Historical Share Prices):
Date Open High Low Close Volume Adj ------ Close*
25-Jun-07 0.48 0.51 0.4 0.45 121,700 0.45
22-Jun-07 0.36 0.44 0.36 0.43 154,400 0.43
21-Jun-07 0.36 0.39 0.33 0.34 124,100 0.34
20-Jun-07 0.32 0.32 0.29 0.3 27,800 0.3
19-Jun-07 0.37 0.37 0.32 0.34 85,300 0.34
18-Jun-07 0.27 0.39 0.27 0.39 65,000 0.39
*N/A (for dividends and splits)
$0.30/share average less than Low for June 21 (Source: Yahoo Historical Share Prices):
Date Open High Low Close Volume Adj ------ Close*
25-Jun-07 0.48 0.51 0.4 0.45 121,700 0.45
22-Jun-07 0.36 0.44 0.36 0.43 154,400 0.43
21-Jun-07 0.36 0.39 0.33 0.34 124,100 0.34
20-Jun-07 0.32 0.32 0.29 0.3 27,800 0.3
19-Jun-07 0.37 0.37 0.32 0.34 85,300 0.34
18-Jun-07 0.27 0.39 0.27 0.39 65,000 0.39
*N/A (for dividends and splits)
$0.43/share......AMAZING...How do they do that?
Panic only if you can't buy. If you can't sell, you can't lose.
Key Statistics From Yahoo Finance..
Share Statistics
Average Volume (3 month): 160,189
Average Volume (10 day): 225,038
Shares Outstanding: 30.66M
Float: 24.64M
It does add up..just not in the way you think.
You are on the right track..Keep following the money.
It would be interesting to know how or why the PPS is so much higher than recent prices. If accurate PPS, calculated by dividing value by number of shares in 144 filing, then there is a substantial lag in the 144 filing date to posting 144 filings in the public domain. In this case, Vickers might owe you some money.
You are somewhat correct. Follow the money...
Nice to know SEC sees us as Insiders.
Please provide an update on Fidelity accounts. Also, I tried to buy today and was not allowed.
20M is suspect....20M*200=4B (before reverse merger)....20M/200=100K (after reverse merger).....20M/125M=16% of A/S (if actually 20M after reverse merger). This seems like an extremely large percentage of A/S for any director or c-level officer of any corporation.
Good vent. In light of recent traffic, I have drafted a poem:
DD and Candlesticks,
PPS causing Panic,
Pumpers not so Glad,
Dumpers not so Sad,
PAVC soon to make History.
Lighten up. Give it back to A, or put A on ignore.
BTW, I would buy if I could.
If you can buy, do you?
Me too.
PAVCE
Big Money,
Why are your worried? You are already rolling in it. I think this is all a simple misunderstanding that will be resolved as soon as the CEO determines how much of a bonus he wants for this year. So, he has bigger fish to fry than when some PAVC BBS members will get their gratis round-up shares. Much bigger fish to fry....
It could all be a huge scam but unlikely post-ENRON...people go to jail for a long time or die while waiting to go to jail for a long time...Then, there are the few who think their MBA makes them smarter than the rest of us.