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heres something else you forgot.. the People to the right of Mr Rosenberg left the red carpet in a limo and are rich. Mr rosenberg on the otherhand owes close to 40 million and most likely drove home in a hyundai he bought in 1997.
no audited finacials, no current financials, board memebers running to the door, massive debt, delinquesnt taxes, massive short volume, declining share price, lawsuits, dilution, but ok.. like i said u better hope that somehow you get some good financial news soon..*scratch that* you better get any financial news, cuz the irs does not play when it comes to getting their money and in short order there could be some liens..
pray for a pop and sell. good luck i see zero medium or long prospects here as of right now.
if im rosenberg, i file chapter 13 and put in an ap with hollywood somewhere
this is my last post and i'll let you guys go... I read the financials.. I read about the DEBT.. i read about the lollipops and pop up book or whatever. and im also reading a steep decline in your share price and now thanks to you clown i also now this stock is being shorted so badly that there are naked shares being sold to people that believe they are "going global".. the movie is going global. but yes you might get a pop after the #'s but after that your gonna be right back on the REGSHO list..
Bank on it..
good luck to you guys this weekend.
Your just proving my point.. the stock is soo overvalued that shares were sold naked because they werent available. anytime you have that kind of short volume there's a reason dont you get that?
OK... fine. a simple wiki of cowboys and aliens complete with sources is readily available.. go read it. as of yet, i see nothing from Mr wiggins that supports his position. he certainly hasnt provided me with any sources, and i read the financials.
i posted facts, and i get called out? its your money your losing. if it were me id want to know why. or just go ahead listen to the assistant mod and see what happens.
i posted my due dilligence just now for you and all to see.. where yours? PDOS may have had an option to buy the film rights back but we all know they dont have any money and the 2 mil they got in 1997 is certainly gone, not to mention theres no way they could fund a film of this level nor even have a sniff at buying it back now.
im reading market maker manipulation. be reasonable for a second. think for a second, if pdos really owned the film would their market cap be anywhere close to 12 mil? NO WAY... folks are starting to understand their actual involvement. so its legit selling or shorting or both. hope you guys get a bump on monday if not you aint gonna get it til some financials come in otherwise its gonna be a long haul til that next "movie" they didnt make comes out.
youd better hope you get that bump starting monday cuz if you dont its downhill from here.. down hill period 2 weeks after release.
if there were a frenzy of uneducated buyers here it might see .10 but if they understand the involvement PDOS has in this film which is close to nothing as of 1997 then you are in deep trouble here.
You know i looked into some of the claims here. Im not trying to be a downer cuz like most who are invested here, i thought.. "wait a second, a movie company with a major title release slated to come out in july and it has daniel craig and harrison for and trades for 2 cents?" impossible.
contrary to what i was told yesterday PDOS is not presenting or distributing this film.. thats a fact.. this film was sold by rosenberg in 1997 to dreamworks. so whatever capital it was sold for at the time is long gone. i was told here 2 million plus box office incentives which the company still may get.. either way the intial 2 mil is long gone by now.
PDOS is listed as a producer, but they are listed as secondary producers not executive producers, which means they are responsible for the original concept and took part in a general guidline to the theme.
this stock "may" have a spike due to the perception that they are gonna get some sort of windfall from the movie but the simple fact is the stock is not going to live up to the hype. after a spike past the initial box office #'s if there is one, this stock will do exactly what it is now declining in value. my 2 cents buy it if u expect a bump and sell next wednesday if you get it.
no i dont think thats correct if you can link that id like to see it. They sold the rights to the movie to dreamworks.
its cowboys and aliens presented by dreamworks.. not presented by platinum studios..
platinum studios produced the movie.. i.e they made it.
otherwise dreamworks would be at the bottom and Platinum would be at the top of the credits. if PDOS owned the rights they be making a hell of alot more than 2 mil,, you and i both know that they couldnt afford to pay harrison fords salary alone not to mention the rest of the production costs.
what you just said completely contrasts from what the wicked clown dude has been saying.
he quotes they sold the rights for 2 mil
After further review, i found some answers, 2mil and more if certain sales levels are obtained under a "undisclosed" agreement..
that pisses me off because this company obviously had an IPO so any deal should made public.you are a shareholder i.e (part owner of the co) so whats up with that b.s. i see a lollipop deal and some sort of book and thats it and they are paying a premium of 25% to be involved in whatever merch they "decide" to colloborate on.
so im guessing they make 6 mil on the deal total?? thats probably very generous. market cap at 16mil? probably right though this stock might get a bump after the weekend based on the misconception that PDOS actually has any rights to the film which they dont. a good flipper at least maybe..
oh and whats up with some dude posting freekin valuation reports from 2008 about?
see thats why im on the fence here.. you have this board going nuts about this movie and that its going to make alot of money at the box office, but production companies just like actors get paid for the work they do i.e employees.
i work for the lottery but they sure as hell dont give me a share of the profits.
the only thing i saw was some sort of deal for a lollipop and a book or something..
im just not interested in being the sucker.. pun intended.
so.. anybody know? what do they get? cuz from what i can see very clearly is that dreamworks owns this film.
Question.. um, this is a production company right? PDOS does not own the rights to the movie. in other words they arent distributors they merely "made/put together" the film. im fairly certain dreamworks is distributing the film and has the rights to all the movie related merch etc. PDOS may get a cut, but i would think that they more likely got the bulk of their money already unless it was somehow written into the distribution deal that they would get a percentage of the gross proceeds..
so can someone tell me if theres any info regarding the distribution contract?
PDOS sold the movie to Dreamworks, what did they or will they get?
yes i do. i also have an interest in several other stocks. i like the story here. i mean when a company projects too good to be true sales forcasts and i buy into the pump. the problem is the pump has been exposed as fraudulent. i may still buy this down the road, just wont be right now its just not a good idea, besides, if they came out with earth shattering news i could just pick it up at a penny or 2 above the opening and still make out ahead
curious though..?? how many times have you sold this stock?
Wanderport is not a big deal. as you said a whopping 400 some people have an interst in the company.
another day of bearish sentiment.. 3 to 1 sell over buy orders. the pps isnt gonna hold much longer.
benhor i admire your enthusiasm, that being said.. i do own this stock, but come on man.. its obvious everybody here is long term. They dont have a choice. nobody is buying the stock. you do realize this right.. nobody wants the stock, ive had it since november 2010. theres no money to be made here. the stock is not liquid at all.
what does long term mean to you? and then ask yourself could you have made money in another stock other than this one? the answer is unequivacly yes.. you most certainly could have. you shouldnt even bother responding to my posts, if you were really concerned about this stock, you should try to get these guys to get some audtied financials.. it couldnt hurt. put the energy into the stock if thats where your beliefs are.. its .0001 for a reason. its because the company is worthless until proven otherwise.. so start bangin the phones or something man. get your ceo to do something.
I was teasing that guy cant remember who it was, but you are misquoting me.. i said it should be .02's by fri to mid week next week. what i said was "message me when it hits 02 and ill help ya out on the bid."
i may have said id "consider" 02's but "buy" i dont commit to anything until my ducks are in a row. if i buy, i will certianly tell you when and why, but thanks to DD by other folks here with "level heads" im sidelining it probably for a bit longer.
i dont make commitments to buy anything at any price until i see it to be a viable option. but yes you are absolutely right. if its bad at 02 it can be bad at 04. and its certainly bad at 04 now. me putting a price tag of 02 gives me a mental point of reassessing risk vs reward, and this process should be done in all stocks.. right now i see TONS of risk. and so do you.
are you listening to yourself? it doesnt effect the stock at all? its down 33% already. how can you with a straight face say it isnt gonna effect the stock? it already has. and then you throw in the 400 MILLION shares that luckily for you at the moment cant be traded and think that that level of dilution is a positive?
dude.. seriously.. this stock, "if" you get a new positive pr is likely to be extremely volitile.. cuz one thing is for certain.. you will absolutely be getting more negative pr. dont you see that yet?
since when is it great for a fledgling company to not be able to issue shares for services? how do you think they fund this op, it aint all loans.
Ammusing at best. its 4 days to august and you say post something about may? and an email campaing? Lets assume thats true either way it has no relevance to the last 6 days of trading.
hitting the wall here, i can see that but if it were a dump today you wouldnt see guys selling off at .014 .015 or .016. they would of seen what i did and sold yesterday. however yesterdays volume touted 2 to 1 buys over sells on big volume. and during that volume all the sells were still in the .017 range. these are just the sketchy investors who buy into your style of thinking. the pps is all over the map today, big confusion. probably gonna get back between the bands and consolidate a bit. rattle the tree as far as im concerned. break loose all the weak shares. we have broke the triangle. so this still in my opinion is a stock beginning a new trend, and currently the trend is up. today is a very important day, up or down, and i expected down, but the real question is whats the retrace gonna end up at and how much volume, cuz im looking at 12 million shares at least in the .014 and above range which indicates to me a higher high, and a higher low. in essence... an uptrend.
sentiment strong hold.
You must be the only one today then. cuz im seeing a sell over buy ratio of 6 to 1. read the writing on the wall. I hope you guys get your pr and i hope people believe it. otherwise 02's
i dont understand that thinking but ok. a reverse split and the shares become less valuable? this is a dead in the water lottery pick. if you have it, you'd better understand that.
i wouldnt "pretty much" read it. id probably make sure i read the whole thing, and then id wait for the investigation to conclude and see what 'other' stuff shakes loose, you dont even have the whole story yet. you only have what investigators dug up from pissed off investors that got snowed over by a guy that owns several of those dumb arse penniestomillions.com sites. watch what happens when jail time starts getting levied then your gonna gets some news, thats for certain, and it sure aint gonna be as pleasant as the 40 page scam report you just got.
i hope it works out, but short term i dont see it. this is not something you just get over by saying "hey my microwave works to heat water" i could of told you that myself, matter of fact i can, i did it just today for my green tea. oooh,, wait. i got a company you should check out.. sumdude enterprizes. symbol (DUDE) i got a meeting in bangladesh with the prime minister he says he's got an order for 100million units.
look back at it now, does that smell maybe just a little i dunno.. fishy?
there needs to be straight up heads rollin off the chopping block with anyone near even a sniff of this debacle.
that would be at least a descent start. but to keep one of these clowns on board? come on? seriously?
if it works sure yes..but
Have you read it? "its all bull$hit" those arent my words. READ the document. some of the sales forecasts, the meetings with govt entities, the pr's,, it isnt limited. this dude lied on ALL levels. several mentioning of wanderport being a "shell" its 40 pages of "i sure am glad i didnt pay .06 something."
ok. its your money, good luck to you longs.
Just for the record, i dont short any stock, i consider it to be wrong to bet against a company. id prefer just not buy. just like i wouldnt be buying any news coming out of this company for a while. i was a share holder here at .033 and sold at .046.
pinks are fun because theres no transparency case in point the 40 page debacle you're dealing with right now. you dont have to talk about upper tier stocks because news comes out daily so theres nothing to talk about. but its certainly valid to bring 40 page scam investigations into question. and its certainly reasonable to doubt a stock in relation to that document and speculate that it will plummet in value down to mmmm .028, but hey i got it all wrong, theres news coming right? wait.. who wrote it?
Look.. waterboy.. clearly you are the authority on all things wanderport.. you've been following this stock religiously for some time. and for your sake i hope im wrong, however the great masses are not gonna take your word for it, if im a new investor looking at this stock the 1st thing i do is look at that huge plunge and want to know what happened.. then i would discover the whopping 40 page scam document and probably let this one slide down to the 02's before even considering investing.
lets say you get news as you continue to hope for.. how is an investor supposed to take it seriously? if your're long and you think the "new" news is finally legit, then what i say shouldnt matter. but for me, im looking at right here, right now, and this stock has .02's written all over it. look i wanted to believe in it too.. hows this,, message me when it hits 02 and ill help ya on the bid.
Not ever going to happen?? maybe we should look way back to... hmm i dont know.. May 16 -18th ish of 2011 when the share price was wait a second...no..... couldnt be.. yep.. its confirmed .025 to .0261 the 12th to the 16th my bad..
ok.. hold your shares. ill watch from here. .02 by mid next week.almost scratched that yesterday. this is a major short op
I am baffled.. seriously.. i mean i realize vultures do come in after a crash in price, but theres nobody in their right mind that puts their money here after reading that report.. why would you even contemplate it? there thousands of companies but buy the Madoff jr wdrp stock at .04? thats insane.
prediction still holds for me .02's by friday, latest midweek next week.
Hey everybody buy WDRP!!! wha?? 40 page scam document? where? nah,, read it again... its says.. " oot, aboot, round bacon, alanis morisette don cha kno.
MMM.. if you are stressing off this lottery ticket, then you're in the wrong game.. if or when.. and thats a real big "IF" you get some sort of consistent news or audited financials. audited financials is what you're looking for here. If you dont get it then you're gonna be eatin a wish sammich for quite some time. even with 100's of millions of shares traded this thing barely moved.. 12 mil increased vol? i just dont see that being a reasonable conclusion whatsoever.
Take it for what it is. in my opinion without news the most you should "give" these guys, and it is certainly giving at this point is your pocket change until proved otherwise..
a huge short term run on gold might do something, but its the company that has to have its act in order. so hold yer numbers or sell and take whats left.. take care.
Good job Bulls.. this is right on pace. like i was thinking though midweek will be the tale.. tomorrow is the day that will set the tone IMO. If we can cross over tomorrow should be an easy trip to a double from .0125 but then again pennys have a habit of taking off like a cheetah when the buzz starts picking up... so
pound yer boards and facebooks. take care and good luck.
my name aint Buffet, im just some dude.
.02's are coming man im telling you.. Its hard to hate here cuz i used to own the stock. if you're a buyer today u are one of very few.. the bears are dominating the board.. shorts are probably gonna be getting a taste of this action if they arent already. they're like tics sucking life out of longs.
short term theres no saving grace here. if you're buying your giving away your money. hold or sell. but i say the latter. dont buy a wish sammich just yet, wait til the week squeeks through and see where we're at. ill watch the fireworks from the sidelines.
bumping against a little resistance here.. come on bulls.. we are teetering on breakout..!! to arms to arms!!
Then theres gonna be a crime spree of theft until the financials come out most likely.
.02 is the new resistance. im not a hater, im just sayin. i own the stock at .03, if you're long and you believe its all good, but for now. you're gonna need something to rattle the tree to get past the hump. right now i just dont see enough bid support. combine that with shorting and you get the pic.
im comfortable at 3. i dont care what the stock price is right now. the volume is so weak it means nothing. i want those finacials if they come out and are good.. then this is no doubt a money maker.
think logically for a second. 7 out of 10 shares friday were short to take the pps below the psychological level of .02 in an effort to start the "worry" machine.. thats why you had certain guys like Mr X bashing so he could make more money. its totally easy to see. thats why he hasnt been here for a bit now.. he doesnt want attn to himself. cuz i called him on it and im right
Exactly miss.. if he lied to investors, isnt it reasonable to think he maybe,,, i mean just "possibly" could of lied to wanderport management as well? especially after wanderport putting in a whopping 1 day of investigation themselves?
must of went like this...
(wanderport)... what did you do idiot?
( the dude ).. uh uh uh nothing honest ey.. i didnt tell my cronies at the pub anything aboot the updates..
(wanderport).. You sure we'll figure it ooot if you did..
(the dude) no ey, i didnt.. do you have any round bacon?
(wanderport).. shore dood, i suppose yoo can keep yer gig and we'll tell all our shareholdes yer stayin, that should go over real well in the press release ey..
of course its good news, it just sets resistance levels higher. stock will contend with flipping somewhere around mid next week im expecting, and may break after that, if it does, and if you are lucky enough to get news, then you are looking at a major rally here.
dude.. i happen to like the story here, but now theres a villain involved, not to mention he's still involved. this stock is not done reeling from the blast. mark my words.
it been light volume up there at around 6 for a while now. because folks are just teetering on the "what if's"..
hows this for a what if? what if dude is proven to of been manipulating price? then everything related to pr for the last 4 mo's is all suspect. .027 ish by end of next week. slight bounce monday to the upside (maybe) if not then, feel free to watch your account shrink.
I agree most likely you're looking at .02's before its over. youd have to be pretty naive not to see the writing on the wall. not to mention what i consider an ill-advised decision to retain someone under investigation. there is zero upside to that decision. shorts bashing a stock is one thing a govt entity is whole other ball game.
no way id touch this stock again til after some very very solid proven releases, but even then they'll be highly scrutinized by potential investors.
KATX .. huge bottom reversal... buys dominating the board.. should double coming into next week. up 11% on day 40% on the week
KATX Grizeen fo Shizeen,.. techs going nutty green. break yo self with the quick status.. buys dominating sells on indicators!!