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very low volume today
Any news of progress could be beneficial for the PPS.
If we weren't diluting so frequently (daily/weekly), then the short-term PPS would not be very important, but we are.
The officers should report ANY incremental news on the mill whether it is that they picked the location, cleared the site, got a permit, procured an element, hired an operator/installer, or even if they picked a color.
agree
"If you build it, he will come"
Well then build it!
Volume is low. Bids are small.
When can we expect the CAFC decision?
Is it typically a better or a worse sign for the plantiff in an appeal when the decision 'goes long?'
When will it rain?
another 500K today ...
Reversal time
Let see if it can climb to 5.5 today
i saw some other reports since 2010, but they didn't lay out the numbers as cleanly.
As the first appeal decision approaches, I felt compelled to check the patent appeal percentages again.
http://patentlyo.com/patent/2010/04/are-appeals-at-the-federal-circuit-a-coin-flip.html
about 24% success appealling obviousness
about 20% success appealling reasonable royalty
Of course, we are on the other side of those numbers 76%-80%
market cap of 280M does not represent the full win against GOOG
75% chance of 16 PPS
25% chance of 2 PPS
Resolving ZTE before the GOOG appeal decision would reduce the stress.
why the drop today?
30 mins to go
need to break through 5.45
Exactly, I am surprise by this move up on the volume as much as I was when we dropped through .004 support that we had for a month on similar low volume.
Would be nice to finally have some insights into the 'undisclosed' settlements with ADT, etc.
Hopefully, the quarterly numbers will reveal ...
If (and that is a big 'if') the JV is worth $50M, along with the recent news of Wal Mart expansion, then that puts the target at 17 PPS
I could see 50 someday in the not-so-distant future, but 100 to 200 PPS ??? *scratching head*
Should have never went below .008 Let alone .01
But glad it did for awhile
Hopfully I can get more on the way up
Was JV deal with Hyundai so big they had to buy ReliOn and stock pile 50 million in cash to meet the new demand?
Hopefully, PLUG met the qualifiers to make Hyundai happy.
Trajectory almost points into green territory. Bump it up!
Now, instead of bitching about about this or that being a POS
Take that energy and go out and get some investors to jump on the FLPC train.
Mill ... Tesla ... $s ...
Hurry before the train leaves the double zero station...
Went to lunch and thought it would be 4.99 when I got back.
Now it is on a trajectory for green!
The fire sale is over. We just hit .003. Sky's the limit now.
I am somewhat disappoint since I wanted to buy more next week and now I will have to pay a premium.
How's the mill coming along?
no thanks
Who are you going to get to to replace him and work for free?
It should hold at 5 because of their cash position and potential revenue.
But, will it hold at 5?
Since the details of the JV were never published and therefore the potential revenue from the JV were never speculated (other than wild conjecture here about PLUG and Hyundai producing FC cars together, etc.), I don't think the PPS has taken the JV into account.
Even if there wasn't appreciation from the potential JV announcement, then no JV will be perceived as bad news and PPS may sink to the 4s.
Shouldn't stay there long though with more customer announcements and postive earnings report.
Almost made it...
What's the rumor on the increase today?
keep popping
3 minutes left to break 3.40
1. BOD paid in shares (good)
2. BOD not selling shares even to pay taxes (good)
3. If I buy 13M share (2% of the O/S and total volume for today)and the price does not move up from .0023 (strange)
Today I feel like ordering 13,000,000 @ .0023
Date EPS Revenue
Mar13 -.18 $ 6M
Jun13 -.10 $ 7M
Sep13 -.09 $ 5M
Dec13 -.08 $ 8M
Mar14 -.06 $ 6M
Expected second quarter results - 8/13 before the bell
Jun14 -.03 $17M
Expect record revenues, rev up 225% from previous year 2Q13, rev up 275% from previous quarter
Quarterly loss shrinks
Plus, $60M in the bank
Based on recent news and Ballard report, Looks like 3rd quarter guidance might be for revs to almost double again
~$30M
We will see...
Hell, if Bob bought 600,000 more, then so will I!!!
July 28th
Bob Reynolds, COO, acquired 600,000 more common shares @ .005
to bring total common shares to 6,389,412
I don't think Bob Reynolds want this stock to be a scam, POS, dilute, depreciate, since he owns almost 1% of the common shares.
what the heck 7.25 million shares at the close?
Second day in a row with about 1% of the shares in a short period of time (and 50% of the days volume) traded with no price movement.
That has to be a pre-coordinated trade.
Oh yeah!
steal IP
make money
when caught don't pay to license IP
continue making money
use the stolen money to short the IP stock
continue making money
appeal and continue to short the IP stock
continue making money
when you are out of appeals go long on the IP stock
continue making money
use % of all the money made off of stealing IP and IP stock manipulation to pay court decision to IP company
Tell everyone "Don't Be Evil"
if google was smart
and if they have some shell firm investing for them
they should go from short to long and get some of their $s back
Lose a billion by stealing
make a couple hundred million by investing
LOL
Time for me to buy some more.
The price target all depends on the multiple you give PLUG. Big growth in the future. Should justify a 20x
I get a 6 target with a 10 multiple and
a 10 target with a 20 multiple.
The 8 target with an outperform must be using a 15 multiple.
I say 'only the next quarter target' because I think in a year the profits will grow to support:
15 multiple target of 9.75
20 multiple target of 12
That might be low if the 5 year Hyundai JV comes through.
Since we now see that don't have debt but 60 million in hand and big announcements and profits ahead, let's hit 7
That is different than debt.
If you want to say that PLUG has been in business for 14 years and has not had a profitable quarter, then I cannot argue with you on that.
And, if you totaled up all the quarterly losses for 14 years would it equal -$970million or -$8 per share.
Yes it would
But they do not have $970million in debt. They raised capital by issuing stock. outstanding shares are not debt.
you are reading the balance sheet incorrectly.
(925,346,074) accumulated deficit is offset by
970,533,905 additional paid in capital
That is a positive
45,974,503 stockholder equity
vs 145,000,000 outstanding shares
That's why that numbnut said the stock was only worth .50 a share
and sank us back down from 10
net loss doesn't equal debt
net loss will be a positive soon, because it will carry forward and relieve future income from taxes.
Hyundai PLUG JV theories:
1. producing fuel cell cars - unlikely
2. converting material handlers/distribution to FC - likely
3. developing commercial/home FC - interesting