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Red Angus, good Sunday morning, hope all is well with you. Need to reach out to you again, regarding our last of July 9th, still is an enigma as to why HJJ has not rule at this stage, just a few days before HJJ said the ruling was RIPE for ruling, here we are nothing yet, any new thoughts?.
I have been reading some of the articles discussing the patten(s) that are being reviewed by the patent office, could it ever happen that HJJ would abstain from ruling until the patent office would have a ruling of their own regarding the patent in question, that would take years, no?, this is all unreal. Really appreciate your take on the patent issue. Thank you for your comments. Have a wonderful Sunday.
Red, from all of us, I am bringing everyone in, is to say thank you "RED ANGUS", for your candid and concise reply from the legal aspect of this case. Even if we only receive the minimal 3% of the 20% we should see a return on this investment. It is up to each of us independently to make our own decision when the ruling comes out as to handle our shares. Thank you again. GLTA
JJ, Red Angus, from your perspective, where are we going legally?
whateva77, good morning, I think Tom is taking a rest from this ordeal, eventually we are going to find out what took him so long to rule in this case.
subslover, It is only a matter of time for this stock to bounce back, just like you say, hang on the best is yet to come. OMO, go Lynas go.
cicimici83, I agree with you, he may very well wait until close to post his ruling. Just another gesture to rub it in a little deeper.
Realizer, I guess VRNG has enough to take care as it is.
JJ, thank you, all we can do now is wait for HJJ to rule.
Realizer, thank you for posting the article. Now this will give us something new to think about. Will it be good or not so good ?
JJ, Red Angus, Tom 4, everyone, I have just opened an email from Seeking Alpha, it reads as follows: Veringo May Take Interest In Activision, Blizzard Woes, talking about maybe buying Worlds (WDDD.OB) suite against Activision Patent Infringement Lawsuit, very interesting regarding all that is going on with FTC, the White House and Patents, it mentions HJJ, sorry I do not know how to post this article.
JJ, Thank you for all the information and guidance you have given us throughout this process. Can you expand on the following thought, could the Judge have called back the jurors and asked them to clarify the supposedly error at the time the numbers were tendered to the Judge and corrected it?
coolerheadsprevail, JJ, thank you both for the appellate timetable. It will take some reading, but then will need some deciphering. Again, thank you both.
mshanley, thank you for your reply. In this case we need for HJJ to rule as soon as possible, ("at his convenience"?). We have made an investment in VRNG, I believe we investors are entitled to know why has taken so long for HJJ to rule. my question now is, do Judges keep a time record of how much time they have dedicated to each ruling or decision through out the trial?
JJ, how long for the appeal court to begin hearings after HJJ, ruling?
Red, Thank you very much, Is with the finesse, firmness and knowledge you have that allows you to answer not only as to the political side of this case as well as our investment position. I understand it is only your opinion that HJJ may rule a 5% of 20.9% of Google's income, it is the least we are hoping from HJJ. Thank you again. GLTA.
Bsav88atty, granted we believe you. You checked on a Judge's clerk's research and typing, it took a "couple" is two (2) weeks. Where is VRNG'S ruling? is it possible to do the research as to the longest time it took any judge Federal or otherwise to rule on a case after the Jury found them guilty. GO VRNG GO. GLTA
Red Angus, JJ, Good morning everyone, is it today that HJJ is supposed to rule, or in July?, reading about Nokia and Microsoft in acquisition talks, how does that impact VRNG's arrangement with Nokia? we must be positive about all that is ahead of VRNG, a little uplift from Management goes a long way. Lets hear positive commentaries today from all of Us. GLTA
muscleshoals, thank you for the reply, it is not so much a complex move of various ingridients, but also a real accomplishment by GESI, such as a building permit No., clearing the site for building the plant and so on. I hope the government of Alberta by approving the building permit they will be closer to green energy at a lower cost and we can see our pps go up in value. Thank you again. GLTA
withlove, muscleshoals, tikasun, pirrocks, shawhub, we all are long GESI holders, what can we do in our power to get GESI, to move up to the $0.03's ?
Daslt, interesting news just prior to HJJ ruling on Monday.
redux, thank you, many of us are letting our thoughts wonder all over the place, this is worse when you are nervous about the outcome of your investment, but you are right there is a ton of pages that he has to digest and cross reference with the outcome of other cases in the past I guess we should put all feelings aside and have a double patience drink on the rocks. Thank you for your kind reply. GLTUA
keith, thank you for your kind reply, I will not want to watch how the sausage is made, so the best thing to do is wait until the sausage is delivered to the store. I really appreciate the simplicity. GLTUA
redux, keith richards, Please, is there an explanation then why HJJ has not ruled? it has been over seven months since the Jury ruled on VRNG's favor.
lpitty, Red Angus, JJ, and other legal minds, my humble opinion is as follows: The possibility why HJJ has not ruled in this case. I believe he is waiting to see if VRNG is able to negotiate a deal with other companies such as MSFT, or if VRNG has develop the capacity for a search engine of its own and depending on the value of the deal he will then rule accordingly and I am afraid it will not be favorable to VRNG. Therefore, VRNG should not be haste in making any deal until such time that your Honor rules in this case my the merits of what the Jury found GOOGLE guilty of. All long investors should perhaps look at this scenario and make a decision based on this assumption. It is only my humble opinion, each of us should make their on. GLTUA.
Red Angus, thank you for your response, I know that is like looking into a crystal ball. Needless to say I am not an attorney as you mention the judicial procedures followed by HJJ have been delayed for some "reason(s)" not dictating as a judge should follow the timeline as he is supposed to. I have my hopes still that he may rule in the manner he should have done sometime ago, again thank you for your courtesies. Best of luck to all of us.
Red Angus, JJ, and other legal minds, in your estimation when do you see HJJ ruling coming down, late June, mid July?, thank you for your answers. GLTYA
muscleshoals, thank you for sharing, over a year long with GESI, once it starts there will be rewards galore having remained with GESI, GLTYA
stockbar, agree with you 1,000%, we will concentrate with the work at hand. thank you for your reply. GLTY
muscleshoals, thank very much for your candid answer, we will be awaiting to hear some good news soon. Thank you again. GLTA
muscleshoals, have we heard anything from the Alberta government regarding final building permits? when do we begin construction? GO GESI GO
654321, we have an old saying regarding secrets, if you keep your mouth closed no flies will come in. Do not tell anyone anything until such time when is appropriate. GLTA
Red Angus, I agree 100% with your position, a warned war does not kill a good soldier, therefore do not divulge any information at all, unless there is a income stream in the works and even then I would not make any comments regarding benefits from the acquisition of the patents. GLTA
stockbar, thank you for our reply to my outburst a couple of days ago, you were right on your comment, sometimes when we are desperate we say and do things that do not make any sense at all. Now, I agree with you regarding the value of the patents we acquired from MSFT, we need to hear from Mr, Lang that we are working on a search engine that will be using all those patents we have purchased in the past and show a real income stream besides the fee collected from the use of our patents from other companies infringements on our patents. Thank you again. GLTA,
Red Angus, thank you again, well phrased, it is not politics in the sense that most of us interpret as politics, when my investment is in jeopardy because of a radical individual who disregards private investment and wants for us to share something that does not belong to him that is ours and share it with the world, that is when I begin to worry about my investment in all sense of the word. GO VRNG GO!!!!
Red Angus, thank you for your comment, lets hope it does not go that route.
KungFu Trader, What do you think about the government taking away your patent, that is if you had ONE and give it for free to the rest of the World. This board is about VRNG, and VRNG is fighting for the rights of their patents and the infringement by GOOGLE by using VRNG'S patents. If you did not read or heard in the News what the President of the United States is planing to take away the rightful rights to the owners of patents and make the world society owner of your patent that is if you had ONE!!! GO VRNG GO perhaps VRNG'S attorneys should begin to look into this matter. GLTA
tikasun, thank you for your advice, really appreciate, GLTA
tikasun, good morning, I have held GESI since March of last year got in at $.057, when do you forsee this stock going back to near that number?, thank you for your kind reply. GLTA
360, I agree with your statement, they are turning against each other, it is silly and childish behavior. I let them express their opinions and we can express ours. Do you want to bet the farm? if you loose it was you who lost it by betting on the odds of this legality game, AND if your were right, you can now buy the farm next to yours. GLTA, I am long and I have bet half of my farm, the draw back is that HJJ is the guy throwing the dice my gut feeling is going to be 7/11 for all of us LONG. OMO.
RJustice, prepare for the worst and hope for the best, tt happens that this investment was based on the outcome of a legal battle regarding if Google had infringed on pattens owned by VRNG and VRNG won the case against GOOGLE.
The unfortunate side of being in court is that a human being is involved in making a decision based upon other cases outcome and his interpretation of same.
We are in the hands of HJJ, where will the pps go, no one really knows, what the decision and ruling of HJJ will be. For the value of share to go up monies have to be transferred into VRNG'S bank account, the downside is if the RR is not as high as we hope to see something between 5 and 7 there is a probability that shares may go down. This is only my opinion, I am LONG and believe that HJJ will do right by VRNG. GLTA.