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clawmann, As your understanding of public disclosure rules for a publicly traded company, do you think it's possible or even likely that we won't hear or get anything definitive to sink our teeth into until late March or mid-April 10K filing from Neomedia mgmt? Thanks LOS
StatenIsd. also something about "never count your chips until the game is done" LOL, LOS
TP, My holdings aren't large enough to gamble on flipping. I'd have to flip all to be worthwhile. I only would have courage enough to buy more right now, for awhile at least. LOS
bluebird, Wouldn't a new contract with Iain be considered a part of "Executive Compensation" and required to be disclosed? I'm not arguing, just asking. LOS
I'm still waiting for some public disclosure on these 3 items. [Required I believe].
you've just unwittingly posted one of the best arguements FOR the security of the Neustar/Neomedia clearinghouse - registry [indirect] model I've read. It doesn't take a Rhodes Scholar to understand why you marketing consultants fear the simplicity of simply licensing through Neustar and building a code campaign for these companies. Sort of diminishes the need for some of your services doesn't it.
well said les, and very accurate. I think.
yes les, and I believe Neustar was satisfied on not only the patent settlement issue with Scanbuy but on Neomedia's forseeable financial future before announcing a deal with Neomedia.
frac, If YA had intended to make off with the patents, they would have never ever never have granted the waivers of default to Neomedia under any circumstances. LOS
ricky. I believe that YA realized the wrongdoing of their below par conversion scheme from the get go but may have underestimated the astuteness of several shareholders and the effectiveness of this board in keeping all members abreast of most all situations occurring with this stock. Thanks hangdog, YJ, Clawmann JP, Arp,Success, and the many others here [To many to name all but contributions are well known] for keeping YA and management on their toes.LOS
ryan, I agree with not a great amount of revenue yet. McCready has said much of the revenue will be "consumer driven". I don't expect to see great numbers in the year ending report, other than money from Scanbuy settlement. The good part about this is possibly that the less front money, the higher the rate on the backend rate for clicks. At least I hope so. We're not there yet but we're getting there. My opinion, LOS
Thanks, Neil for the link. [after hours] I got it now. Thanks again.
where that chart heading has "TYPE" there is something underneath on those last 2 transactions I can't make it out with my eyesight. What is it and what does that mean? [form 1] or [form t]?
what the heck is verisign around for, tell the internet they're not needed or desirable.
Perhaps I should have said the model which will be used as this technology moves forward. Sorry, LOS
Thanks streets for presenting in a very intelligent manner what I was trying to say very unintelligently. LOS
lucky, no easier than tapping into the Neustar clearinghouse model. Apparantly the model that has been accepted as the worldwide interoperable model being developed right now. All anyone has to do is accept the call already made by the USPTO on Neomedia's patent, like it or not, and license and get on with it. If someone thinks the Japanese ecosystem model should be used , I guess they should dump their Neustar and Neomedia stock and buy into their counterparts in the Japanese model if counterparts exist. My money is on the Neustar-Neomedia model because I believe that is where this is all headed. LOS
lucky, I don't know the legalities of this, but it would fragment the ecosystem in a way that would be harmful to all concerned in the long run. [This is only my opinion of course.]
lucky, not and participate within the accepted Neustar clearinghouse model this ecosystem is being developed on. [Correction] accepted by most but not necessarily srowen, poptech and their buddies at google.
cloud, thanks for posting this. #6 is the one that gives srowen and his friends at google the most problem. Think about it. LOS [IN MY OPINION]
elliot, google the word "course" [from Zack's Thanksgiving gift] and follow, this may lead to some of the expertise and brainpower used in BE Confident's "consortium" used to develope this barcode ecosystem.
srowen, If you think Neomedia's role and avenue to success in this emerging mobile ecosystem [ I like to think of it as the "mobile outernet" a complete and interoperable mobile infrastructure conjoined with the existing internet infrastructure through neustar as clearinghouse and using a common barcode process [Neomedia's] is dependant on Neomedia dealing directly with "small ad firms without R&D departments", I wouldn't let you get within a 10 mile radius of my acquisition search team. Sorry, but your overt attempt to mislead by using the "small ad company" example won't work. I believe if this "mobile outernet" develops with Neomedia's role in it is as it appears to be developing, your patents will be greatly devalued or even possibly useless and that's your agenda here to attempt to downplay Neomedia's role if you can. No dought you're a brilliant person in this field and know exactly what's going on, but your agenda is out there on your sleeve for all to see. That's my OPINION and I'm sticking to it!
BC, I'm not a nitpicker, especially of any of your posts, but I've been wanting to point to a typo in your post for a few hours now. I believe you meant 21 billion in your spinoff price of Network Solutions. [By the way, the reason I read for at least 2 to 3 hours about this SAIC and Network Solutions deal to Verisign was your question the other night of "Do you see where I'm going with this?] I at that time didn't know and wanted to try and learn where you were headed with it. Thanks for causing me to do some research that I would have otherwise not have done Thanks again. That reading caused me to see potential here I had not recognized before. LOS
Me too Neil, Had I asked the conversion questions both about Feb17 and the below par and dividend scheme and got the run around answers Mike Zima gave, I would have lost my cool and been censured. That's why I appreciate hangdog's professionalism in the way he handled it. Much more effective. Thanks again hangdog.
hangdog, Thank you for the way you handled that conversion issue in the CC. I'm sure it had it's effects on management, YA, and shareholders as well as "OTHER INTERESTED" parties who were very likely listening in. LOS
NEOM, Now if we could just get YA to "Fess up" about all the conversions after Feb. 17th and adjust it accordingly, we might keep going until we don't owe them anything at all. LOL [sort of funny even though it is no laughing matter at all.] LOS
I can see where 2D barcodes used in print media ads to identify [voluntarily] then target interested people [consumers] can practically eliminate most of this "postal patron" junk mail [expensive and wasteful] our mailboxes are full of each day. LOS
BC, You might should, however, I've seen several new words from the asylum.LOL
NEOM, [INTEROPERABILITY] I don't know squat about the technical aspects of all this, but I do know what COMPLETE WORLDWIDE INTEROPERABILITY means to the success of the 2D barcode ecosystem. I believe Neustar and Neomedia have positioned themselves such that the road to complete worldwide interoperability will eventually pass through Neustar's clearinghouse and registry and Neomedia's IP. Even the big names know this. Right now a chess game is going on and it is my opinion that the one who gets Neomedia will have Checkmate.The part of this post about the desire for complete worldwide interoperability is not Opinion but the rest is IMVSOP LOL, Thanks BC, I like those initials too. [This is why for the life of me, I can't understand why Microsoft hasn't already bought into Neomedia, OOPS I don't know for sure that they haven't.]
I can't reply privately to a PM but I respect and admire your healthy and positive outlook and I intend to turn my thoughts to the positive things we are looking forward to. Thanks, your PM helps. I'm going to be positive and "am sticking to it." LOL Losmashrt
Neil, I'm not saying when any action by us shareholders would become necessary. I am saying that it is a good thing for management and YA be fully aware that we know that we have other options than "take" or "leave" to protect our investment and that we're not so terrified of loss or filled with blind hope to just turn a blind eye and go along with just anything. After the CC and their being aware of this board, I believe they have gotten that message. [We'll see.] [ A special thanks to you, YJ, Claw and others on this board who have helped make them aware.] LOS [I believe YA's business is predicated on the word DESPERATION, I for one am not desperate.]
Well said BC, I especially didn't like Iain's comment and tone in the CC when he said they couldn't advise any shareholder how to handle their investment. Sort of a "take it or leave it" attitude. I believe the underlying message recieved by Iain and Mike from all the callers was that some or maybe all of us investors intend to protect our investment by whatever means that may become necessary, if you know what I mean.
Lucky, I know where I wish YJ, CLAW, BC, JP, and a few others on this board had been, on another board, [THE NEOMEDIA BOARD OF DIRECRORS] I can't help but feel that we'd be a lot better off right now. The time has come for Iain and Mike Zima to show their colors. Do they work for Neomedia and all shareholders or do they work only for YA's benefit? LOS
Count the votes BEFORE forcing a shareholders meeting.LOS
Clawmann, I think you are 100% correct here. If another "correction" about this were to take place, How could it be practically handled? The sharecount and numbers were easily corrected in the dividend-conversion scheme but with all the conversions after Feb. 17th How do you put that toothpaste back in the tube?
Arp, I think that the "correction" has to do with the fairvalue being below .01 at the time of the dividend conversion scheme and the advantages it gave YA at the time they were doing it and the fairvalue now being above .01 and YA has calculated that it will likely remain above.01 and possibly they've calculated it will go above .02 and likely stay there. With the fair price above .01 it is advantagous to YA to convert the way they were supposed to all along. If the fair value price was still below .01, [Just My OPINION] I don't believe we would have seen the "correction". P.S. I really hope it was a "mistake" and the posters here forced them to correct it but I just don't feel that's the case.
BC, As far as learning and financial rewards go, I believe our time waiting on Neomedia to prosper will not have been waisted. LOS
Thanks BC, I had especially hoped for your feedback, because my respect is that your knowledge in all this is second to none on this board and the manner in which you present your posts. Thanks again LOS
At the risk of further embarrasing myself and being laughed off this board, I'm going to finish my theory[OPINION] regarding YA and Neomedia's evolving relationship. Step one is the post I'm replying to. Step two is that Neomedia will payoff [retire] part of it's debt to YA on the due dates from revenues I believe Neomedia is beginning to achieve and will achieve by then. Step three is that at that time, YA and Neomedia will replace the remaining debt instruments with non-dilutive debt instruments maintaining YA's security on any or most of the balance of any outstanding investment [If there is any] and their first come first served position on these instruments and at the same time signaling the market that as far as YA is concerned the dilution is over. Then YA with their debt instruments and approximately 500 million shares of common stock and each of us with our common stock will fly with this company to great profits. I repeat this is only my OPINION but I'm sticking to it until events prove me wrong or better heads on the board show me the error of my thinking. OPINION ONLY but this seems the best way for YA and us to realize the greatest returns on investment. LOS [I truly don't know how all this works but this looks possible to me.]
ANYONE? If YA had thoughts of giving Neomedia 65 day notice and increasing their common share stake in Neomedia to about 20% of outstanding of approximately 2.5 billion total O.S. and then filed with SEC as would be required, just how deep would the SEC then look into YA's dealings with Neomedia? I don't know the answer to this. But if SEC normally looks at past dealings in cases such as this that could be one of the reasons for the sudden tidying up. All conjecture and OPINION of course, but a part of my OPINION of YA's evolving position and intentions with Neomedia. [JUST OPINION]