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Follow up- I decided not to get the
5-1/4 x 18 x 20 foot beam and will split the distance with two 10 foot headers. The 18 inch fall was just to much blocking the view. Will use 2x12 headers with a post in the middle.
Thanks for all your help.
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NEWS- Olympic hopeful claims police beating
BOXER CLAIMS POLICE BEAT HIM FOR NO REASON
Pittsburgh Post-Gazette...02/03/2002
An amateur boxer claims that police officers beat him so severely in an unwarranted attack that he is unable to advance to a qualifying tournament for the Olympics.
Ramont "Monty" Clay says officers from Braddock, Edgewood and Swissvale attacked him Jan. 19 as Rankin police stood by and watched.
Rankin police have refused to give him, or the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, a copy of their incident report. Three of the four police departments will not even admit there was an altercation.
But Rankin Mayor Demont Coleman said an incident occurred and Clay appears to be the victim of wrongdoing.
At 5-foot-4, 130 pounds, the 20-year-old does not look intimidating. In the ring, it's another matter.
His record is 52-8. He has won two state Golden Gloves titles. The Amateur Boxing Federation has ranked him as high as third nationally in the 132-pound class.
His ring name is "Two Guns Clay" because he "hits fast and he hits with both hands," said his manager, Don Scott, who runs Weightmasters Gym in Wilkinsburg.
But on the night of Jan. 19, Clay said, he displayed no aggression. He was working at his uncle's jitney stand, less than two blocks from the Rankin police station, when three men walked up and asked for a ride. He saw police cars trailing the men. Officers were responding to a report of shots fired at the Palisades Plaza housing development two blocks away.
As Clay walked his customers to a car, other squad cars appeared. He told the men the ride was off.
Police won't talk about what happened.
Here's Clay's version:
Police got out of their cars with guns drawn, yelled "Freeze" and then swarmed him.
"I said I don't have anything to do with whatever is going on. I'm just a jitney driver and this is my uncle's business."
They told him to shut up, swept his feet out from under him, slammed his head into a car, pinned an arm behind his back, punched him in the back and kicked his legs.
An officer grabbed his ponytail, jerked his head around, jammed a snowball in his face, called him a racial slur and said, "Don't you know we'll kill you?"
He was handcuffed, picked up by the cuffs and slammed down on a car.
An officer grabbed his ponytail again and swung his head around. Another officer swung his head, "snapping my neck everywhere," and threatened to kill him.
Police demanded the key to his uncle's jitney office, but he said he didn't have it.
He was thrown into a Rankin police car.
Clay screamed to bystanders to call his parents, Ramont and Yolanda Clay, or William Price, his uncle, who is president of Rankin Council. When police heard Price was coming, Clay said, most of them disappeared. They released him without charging him.
Clay estimated that 20 officers were there and a half-dozen put hands on him.
He went to UPMC Braddock for tests. Nothing was broken, but the next day he said he had an "incredible migraine" and a sore right shoulder, which had been hyperextended when his arm was pulled behind his back.
A few days later, his private physician determined Clay had only 30 percent movement of his spine. He still wears an arm sling and is unable to throw a punch or to train.
That means he probably can't compete Thursday through Saturday in the ABF semifinals in Baltimore. The winner of the tournament will advance to Las Vegas in a competition that will qualify boxers for the Olympic national tryouts.
Clay had hoped to make that his last series of amateur bouts before turning pro.
Scott said he has identified three officers from Swissvale and one each from Braddock, Edgewood and Rankin who were present. He would not give their names or explain how he learned their identities.
Scott met with Rankin officials, including Police Chief Darryll Briston and Mayor Coleman, two days after the incident.
Even though police incident reports are public records to which Scott and Clay are legally entitled, the borough demanded that Clay sign a waiver releasing Rankin from liability before it would agree to turn over the report. Scott agreed.
But each time Scott and Clay have tried to get the waiver, the officials have balked. Briston said he doesn't know anything about the incident and he denied meeting with Scott or discussing releasing the police report. He also refused to turn the report over to the Post-Gazette.
But Coleman acknowledged the meeting. He said Clay will get the report and the borough will cooperate with him, but first "kinks" in the wording of the liability waiver must be worked out. He said the borough's solicitor has found a problem. "We more or less didn't want to bring direct accusations on another borough," Coleman said.
Two of the other three police departments had little to say about the altercation.
An Edgewood police dispatcher checked computer records and found no backup calls to Rankin for two days around the time of the incident. A Swissvale employee did find something in the computer, and asked "What do you want to know about that one?"
When told the Post-Gazette wanted a copy of the report, he referred the reporter to Chief Dominic Nuzzo. Nuzzo said he knew nothing about the incident, and if there were such an incident, he couldn't comment because it was under investigation.
When asked whether he thought such serious allegations deserved a response, he replied, "I don't care about that. Everybody you pull over today says 'civil rights this' and 'I'll sue you that.' "
Braddock's acting police chief, Frank DeBartola, said his department was at the scene for about 45 minutes.
"Any time my officers engage in use of force a report is taken and a use of force form is filled out, and there is nothing. My officers never engaged anybody on that night. Speaking from an acting chief's point of view, I won't tolerate any actions of that nature."
Clay said the incident was particularly upsetting because he has boxed in the Police Athletic League and knows a lot of officers.
Though he now lives in Wilkinsburg, he said Rankin police should have recognized him because he grew up a block away from their station.
"I tried to tell them who I was, that I fought for you," he recalled. "I lost that fight, but I wasn't fighting back. That's what's really disturbing. I'm a fighter. I take up for myself. But I abide by the law. I can defend myself in boxing. I can't defend myself against officers."
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NEWS- Dear Chief... regarding my shotgun..
SHOTGUN VANISHES FROM TRUNK OF POLICE CRUISER
St. Louis Post-Dispatch...02/03/2002
People who think there are too many guns on the street won't be happy with police in Springfield, Mo.
Officers are asking for the public's help to find a Remington model 870 12-gauge shotgun that fell out of the trunk of a moving patrol car.
The gun, which was in a case, went missing last weekend.
Police said the car's trunk was closed and latched, and they don't know how it popped open.
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John, here is another example of a catch 22
You just can't win. The police use a helicopter to catch the bad guys and the public STILL complains.
Copter Chase causes stir in Barefoot Bay
2002-02-01 by Patricia Walsh, Florida Today
BAREFOOT BAY - A noisy helicopter chase of two suspected prowlers awakened many residents of this 10,000-member community about 3 a.m. Wednesday, prompting many people to go outdoors to watch and sparking a slew of 911 calls.
Two suspects were arrested. Robert P. Lawley, 21, and an unnamed juvenile were arrested. Both were charged with loitering, prowling and resisting arrest without violence.
The 911 calls and rubbernecking residents somewhat hampered law enforcement efforts to deal with the two suspicious persons, Lt. John Coppola of the Brevard County sheriff's aviation unit said.
"They flooded the 911 system with calls, and that made it difficult for dispatch," Coppola said, adding that residents outdoors made it more difficult to pinpoint the prowlers below with infrared equipment. He said residents should "stay in the house, lock your doors and look out your windows if you see anything suspicious."
Chris Sands, the sheriff's pilot flying the chopper, said he and an infrared specialist responded to a call of suspicious persons and helped deputies search for the two individuals in the vicinity of Avocado Drive and Fleming Grant Road.
Sands, who was wearing night goggles, saw two people believed to be the ones a Barefoot Bay resident had reported seeing outside a residence with a bag.
One individual was chased on foot and caught by sheriff's Deputy Jim Harrison, guided by directions from the helicopter above, Sands said. The other suspect was found at an area residence after the first was questioned, he said.
Sheriff's Major Doug Scragg said a resident "noticed some people out next to an air conditioner next to her residence, and she tapped on the window and scared them off."
Later, he said, the air conditioner appeared to have some significance.
"One of the suspects stated that what they were doing was going around to trailers that they knew were vacant, and (he said) they siphoned the Freon out of the air conditioning units and huffed it to make them high," Scragg said. "That's pretty unusual, particularly in the middle of the night."
Coppola said the two individuals who were arrested could be fined $628 for the expense of the sheriff's helicopter personnel and equipment.
"Hopefully we prevented some burglaries down there," he said. "I think the biggest thing is that a neighbor saw them in a back yard with a bag in hand, and it was obvious at 3 a.m. they weren't there to go shopping, except at someone's house."
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NEWS-McAllen Police Off. arrested with 238lbs. marihuana
2002-02-02
by Vanessa Salinas and Jo Napolitano, Valley Freedom Newspapers
HARLINGEN - A McAllen police officer was arrested late Wednesday during a routine traffic stop in connection with possession of 238 pounds of marijuana.
Santos Solis, 26, of Rio Grande City, and passenger Dionicio Gonzales, 46, of San Benito, appeared before U.S. Magistrate Judge John William Black Thursday morning.
Solis, who resigned his position with the McAllen Police Department after the arrest, had bail set at $50,000. Gonzales' bail was not set. At about 11 p.m. Wednesday, U.S. Customs agents stopped a 1996 Mercury Marquis driven by Solis on Williams Road for failing to signal while making a right turn.
A U.S. Customs press release states that Solis immediately exited the vehicle in a peculiar manner as if he was going to flee. A Customs drug dog alerted officers to the trunk where four locked duffel bags containing the marijuana were discovered, the press release said.
The occupants were arrested and transported to the Brownsville Police Department jail. "We don't have any information that he has been doing this previously. We don't have any information that indicates that yet," said Mike Hinojosa, U.S. Customs resident agent in charge.
Once McAllen Police Chief Victor Rodriguez was told that one of his officers had been arrested, he immediately contacted Solis. "My immediate objective was to remove him and to separate him from the department," Rodriguez said. Solis, who had been an officer for 19 months, resigned.
"It (Solis leaving the department) is absolutely important to the integrity of the agency, to the credibility of the officers of this department, to the working environment here, (and) to the reliability that the people should have in this department," Rodriguez said.
U.S. Customs is leading the investigation and will be assisted by the High Intensity Drug Trafficking Area task force.
Officers from the Brownsville and Harlingen police departments, Texas Department of Public Safety, Cameron County District Attorney, Cameron County Sheriff's Office and U.S. Border Patrol will assist in the investigation.
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NEWS-DNA Testing Leads To Arrests of Masked Men;
Cops: Saliva on ski masks ties suspects to break-ins
Newsday (New York, NY)...02/02/2002
Relying on DNA evidence, Nassau detectives said they arrested a Hicksville man Thursday for his role in an alleged armed house robbery in Laurel Hollow that had been unsolved since May.
In a related case, results from another DNA test led to the arrest of a Copiague man for an October burglary in Jericho, police said.
Police say Darin Riley, 37, of Hicksville was one of two or three men wearing ski masks who shattered a back window, bound a woman and her teenage son and stole $ 9,000 in cash and jewelry from the Laurel Hollow house last year.
During that robbery, one of the men cut himself, possibly on the broken window, and left blood stains throughout the house, said Det. Lt. Steven Skrynecki of Nassau's Second Squad. The men, who showed a knife but didn't use it, fled in the family's Land Rover, Skrynecki said.
DNA from blood stains in the house and in the Land Rover, which was later recovered, was sent to the New York State DNA bank in Albany, but no match was found.
Then, in October, Riley was arrested after a burglary in Jericho, police said. A ski mask that Riley had with him when he was arrested was tested for DNA, and last month the results were found to match the DNA from the blood stains at the Laurel Hollow house, Skrynecki said.
Based on the test results, Riley, who was free on bail awaiting trial on burglary charges from the October arrest, was arrested again Thursday.
When Riley was originally arrested in October, police found a second ski mask in the same Jericho yard. They were able to get DNA from what appeared to be saliva on that mask, ran it through the state DNA bank and matched it to Robert Speed, 34, of Copiague, Skrynecki said. Based on the match, police believe Speed and Riley were co-conspirators in the Jericho burglary in October.
Both men pleaded not guilty at their arraignments Friday at First District Court in Hempstead and were ordered held in the county jail without bail. Riley was charged with first-degree robbery for the Laurel Hollow break-in and Speed was charged with second-degree burglary for the break-in in Jericho.
A woman who answered the phone at a Huntington Station house Friday where Riley used to live called him "a good person."
"People make bad choices in life," said the woman, who identified herself only as a cousin. "But he as a person is a very good person." His attorney could not be reached.
Neither Speed's family nor his attorney could be reached for comment.
The alleged October burglary was one of three similar burglaries in the same neighborhood, Skrynecki said. Riley is charged with one count of second-degree burglary for each one.
Skrynecki said that detectives David O'Hyan and Donald Bartels ordered the DNA testing after noticing the similarities between the May and October break-ins - the men allegedly wore ski masks "with unique stitching," broke in by smashing a window and took similar items.
The Jericho burglary occurred on Oct. 11 on Hunt Drive, police said. At about 10:15 p.m. a woman called police after hearing somebody break a window and enter her house, Skrynecki said.
At least two men fled the scene, but police found Riley in the neighborhood later that night with burglary tools, jewelry from the house and a ski mask on him, Skrynecki said.
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NEWS- NFL Okland Raider arrested on sex charges
Raiders' Darrell Russell faces 24 sex-related charges
Knight Ridder/Tribune News Service
San Jose Mercury News...02/02/2002
ALAMEDA, Calif. _ Oakland Raiders defensive lineman Darrell Russell was arrested early Friday morning by Alameda Police, who allege that he and two friends gave a "date rape" drug to a female acquaintance before driving her to Alameda, sexually assaulting her and raping her.
Russell faces 24 sex-related charges. He is being held on $ 1.2 million bond and will be arraigned with the other suspects next week.
The arrest came a month after the 25-year-old two-time Pro Bowl football player started serving a one-year suspension from the NFL for reportedly testing positive for the drug 'ecstasy' _ his third violation of the league's substance abuse policy.
Russell's agent, Leigh Steinberg, did not return phone calls. The Raiders declined to comment; by NFL rules, they are barred from communicating with Russell during his year-long suspension.
Alameda police say a group of people _ including Russell and the two other suspects, Naeem Rashad Perry and Ali Martine Hayes; and the victim, a Mountain View resident _ had spent Wednesday night together in San Francisco at Harry Denton's Starlight Room in the Sir Francis Drake Hotel.
Russell, an Oakland resident, sometimes goes to the lounge on Wednesday nights for a DJ-hosted party called "Indulgence," said lounge spokeswoman Vanessa Bortnick.
About 20 minutes before the lounge closed at 2 a.m. early Thursday morning, police allege Russell gave the 27-year-old woman a drink that they believe was laced with the drug GHB, commonly referred to as a "date rape" drug because it can cause victims to black out, leaving them vulnerable to rape.
The group then drove in Russell's car to a house in Alameda, where the rape allegedly took place, said Lt. Jim Brock, the commander in charge of investigations. When the woman awoke at 11 a.m., she "had some vague recollection" that she had been raped. There were physical signs that she had been assaulted, and someone else at the home indicated that he believed she might have been raped, said Brock.
Asked why Russell faces 24 charges, Brock said "There was significant evidence recovered from the scene which allowed us to come to those conclusions."
The woman called Alameda police and went to the hospital where she was examined.
Russell was arrested at 5:30 a.m. Friday as he was leaving the house, which is the home of one of his friends and where he apparently had spent the night, Brock said. Perry and Hayes were arrested inside the house.
Russell agreed to speak with investigators, while Perry and Hayes invoked their rights not to speak to police, Brock said.
Russell has been charged with: seven counts of rape, six counts of oral copulation, five counts of sexual penetration with a foreign object and six counts of sexual battery.
Perry, 24, of Berkeley, and Hayes, 27, of Oakland _ are both finishing felony probation terms for various drug charges, Alameda police said. Perry and Hayes _ who are being held on $ 720,000 and $ 540,000 bail, respectively _ face similar charges, police said.
The allegation that Russell spiked the woman's drink is ironic because he has said a spiked drink was the reason for his suspension.
On Jan. 2, the NFL suspended Russell for a third violation of the drug program. CBS reported Russell tested positive for ecstasy, a drug popular at rave parties. That penalty all but sealed the end of his career with the Raiders.
The team is not liable for his $ 9 million salary next season because of the suspension. The salary, which calls for raises in each of the next three years, is non-guaranteed, and the only question is when the team will cut him, a move that would benefit its salary-cap position.
Russell's first public comments about the positive drug test came on "The Last Word With Jim Rome" on Jan. 14. He said someone slipped ecstasy into his drink at a nightclub.
"Is anyone going to believe me? No," Russell told Rome. "The fact is I was suspended for a year. The fact is I've already had problems with the drug policy. Is anyone going to believe me? I really don't care if anyone believes me because I know the truth. As long as I know the truth, I'm not going to sit here and go around apologizing and act like I made some big mistake. I didn't make a mistake."
That explanation echoed Russell's reaction to his previous two suspensions.
In August, the NFL announced a four-game suspension for a second drug violation; Russell said he was flagged because he wasn't home when testing officials showed up at his house without advance notice. He and Steinberg angrily accused the NFL of carrying out a vendetta against Russell. They said his first violation was for secondhand marijuana smoke, which experts said was possible but unlikely.
The NFL, citing the program's confidentiality clause, hasn't confirmed the reasons for the disciplinary actions.
Russell is one of the most talkative players in the locker room, but he doesn't spend much time with teammates outside of work. When his drug suspension was announced, receiver Tim Brown expressed concern about Russell being away from a support structure.
"What happens to Darrell now that he's not around guys who try and give him some form of help?" Brown asked Jan. 2. "Obviously the people who are around him are not helping him at all. We just all wish him the best."
(Mercury News staff writers Sandra Gonzales and Dan Reed contributed to this report.)
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NEWS- Cop shot through door by suspect
Newsday (New York, NY)...02/02/2002
A police officer shot in the leg during a standoff in Rockaway Park was released from a Queens hospital Friday while the emotionally disturbed teenager accused of shooting him was in a psychiatric ward, awaiting arraignment.
Officer Kevin Boyle, 43, of Massapequa Park, was released from Jamaica Hospital Medical Center Friday after being treated for a gunshot wound to his left calf.
The 18-year-old man accused of shooting him Thursday, Timothy Fahy, remained at Kings County Hospital Center Friday night undergoing psychiatric evaluation, police said.
Police sources said Fahy has a history of emotional problems and it's believed that on Thursday he had stopped taking his medicine, Risperdal, a drug used to treat schizophrenia. Police officials had also heard, but were unable to confirm, that Fahy's brother had been on television news receiving a scholastic award that night and that caused an already unstable Fahy to go off.
Officials from the Queens district attorney's office said Fahy will be charged with attempted murder, attempted aggravated assault and criminal possession of a weapon. It was uncertain Friday night when arraignment would take place.
Officials said it was also still unclear how Fahy obtained the .38-caliber Smith & Wesson handgun used to shoot Boyle and graze the right ankle of another officer, Keith Papsodero.
The incident started just before 6 p.m. when Fahy's grandfather, Martin Fahy, called 911 to report that his grandson had been acting aggressively and was armed with a baseball bat. When police arrived at the Fahys' two-story home at 121-07 Newport Ave., they found the grandfather struggling with the teen. When Timothy Fahy spotted police he locked himself in a bathroom.
After Martin Fahy, a retired detective, accounted for the two guns he keeps in the house, the officers tried to get Timothy Fahy out of the bathroom. After an hour, police used a sledgehammer to break a hole in the door and, through the hole, stunned Fahy with a Taser gun.
Fahy then blindly fired two shots through the hole, hitting Boyle and grazing Papsodero, police said.
Lt. Jack Cambria, head of the police department's Hostage Negotiation Unit, then was called in. Over the next two hours, Fahy told Cambria that he has chips implanted in his head, the television set talks to him and he feels his parents don't love him anymore, a police source said. Just before 9 p.m., Cambria persuaded Fahy to surrender.
"Thank God the officer was only injured in the leg," said City Councilman Joseph Addabbo, who visited Boyle in the hospital Thursday night and then went to the scene. "It could have been a lot worse."
Police sources said it appears that Fahy had been receiving treatment for mental illness at St. John's Episcopal Hospital in Far Rockaway.
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The roofs are already in place,
I am just taking out the wall and replacing it.
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The beam supports two roofs.
Upper second floor roof, and lower over the porch slant roof tied into the second floor wall.
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NEWS - What would you do with $1.9 million?
Armored Car Company Robbed in Vermont
Thu Jan 31, 8:50 PM ET
By KRISTA LARSON, Associated Press Writer
RUTLAND, Vt. - A gunman robbed an armored car company's office Thursday, tying up two guards and getting away with about $1.9 million, the company's owner said.
The robbery happened between 5:30 a.m. and 6:30 a.m. at the downtown Rutland office of Berkshire Armored Car Services Inc., owner Jerry Reder said from the company's headquarters in Pittsfield, Mass.
Reder said no one was injured but estimated that $1.9 million was taken. Officials said a driver in a getaway car may have been waiting nearby.
Insurance investigators were working with the FBI and local police, Reder said.
John Kavanaugh, the FBI agent in charge in Vermont, would say only that there was an ongoing investigation.
"We are still in the process of conducting interviews. We don't want to put out an inaccurate description," Kavanaugh said.
Rutland police confirmed a robbery had taken place but didn't immediately release details.
Reder said he did not know how many people were in the building at the time of the robbery. He also didn't know how a robber could have gotten inside.
The biggest previous heist in Vermont is believed to a 1996 bank robbery in St. Albans when thieves made off with $250,000.
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I spoke with two local engineers.
Both came up with the same figures in that I need a 5-1/8 X 18 X 20 foot laminated beam. Actual clear space will be 19 feet. Seems awful heavy to me but considering the two roofs and second floor. This is going to damage my pocket book. There is a joist at the end of the floor rafter so I don't think removing the top two plates will hurt anything.
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NEWS- Police busted for posing in calender
01-31-2002
VIENNA (Reuters) - A group of Austrian police officers who posed armed and naked for a calendar have been barred from the force's elite unit as punishment, a police spokesman said on Thursday.
Some 350,000 of the calendars have been printed, showing Austria's long arm of the law in the raw, with guns, handcuffs or nightsticks, and superimposed over photos of scantily clad women.
Some female listeners to a radio chat show in the southern city of Graz, where the men are based, rang in to praise their prowess, but the interior ministry was not amused.
The 10 officers were either members of, or looking to join Cobra, an elite unit whose tasks include providing security for important persons visiting Austria.
``This would mean people like the Pope,'' said ministry spokesman Major Rudold Gollia, who said they would not now be considered for Cobra and would be assigned to routine patrol duty.
``To call them naive would be flattering them. It was simply stupid,'' a policeman told Reuters. ``They've made the job difficult for their colleagues, who've lost credibility on the street"
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Thanks, that picture was taken by me inside
Jacob's Well in Wimberley, Texas. No car, just a bunch of gravel. Here is the story.
http://www.corridor.net/smartdivers/Jacobswell.htm
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NEWS- Off-Duty Officer Kills Alleged Carjacker
Los Angeles Times...01/31/2002
An off-duty Baldwin Park police officer shot and killed one of two men who were allegedly trying to carjack his vehicle late Tuesday at a Pico Rivera service station. The second man was wounded.
David Montanez, 36, of Pico Rivera was pronounced dead at the scene, said coroner's spokesman Scott Carrier. Neither the wounded man nor the 26-year-old officer, who was not in uniform at the time, was identified.
Dieter C. Dammeier, an Upland attorney who represents the Baldwin Park Police Officers Assn., said the officer was pumping gas into his Ford truck at a Mobil station at Beverly and Rosemead boulevards about 10:25 p.m. Tuesday when he was accosted by two men.
"He was willing to give up his truck and leave," Dammeier said. "He grabbed a gun out of his truck and ran across the street. But they chased him, knocked him down and kicked him in the head. That's when he decided he'd better defend himself, and he opened fire."
Dammeier said it was unclear whether the officer's assailants were themselves armed, but one of them tried to grab the officer's gun. Dammeier said the officer had identified himself to them as a policeman.
"Obviously, it's a tragedy that the officer had to take this action, but he had no choice," Dammeier said. "The carjackers forced his hand."
Los Angeles County sheriff's deputies, who were called to the scene after the shooting, were investigating the matter, sheriff's Sgt. Joe Efflandt said. He said the assailants were shot several times in their upper bodies.
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You got that right. eom
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Castle you made an excellent point here with:
Police officers, I understand, know the difference in 'dead body' smell and 'garbage'.
Every officer whom has ever gone on a "welfare concern" call when a loved one has not been heard from in a while knows what you are talking about here. You never forget the smell of dead body that is decaying. That smell stays with you and it IS different than garbage.
At the bare minimum, the officers did not do an sufficient investigation (IMO). The search of the vehicle would need to be based on probable cause, and the PC could be justified by the smell IF the officer could articulate he has had experience with the odor of deceased decaying human remains.
If he could do that, I think the search would have held up in court. I want to believe the officers who pulled Dahmer over were inexperienced, but I don't know if that was the case. They were also in a city that never sleeps, someone with garbage in their car in the early morning hourse is probably not that unusual.
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Let me correct the 2 story thingee..
It is a long ranch style house, wide long roof, and is a two story structure in the center. This is a load bearing wall with a bedroom above. No building code here, I live out in B.F.E. or should I say south Texas. There is a double top plate in the wall right now and I thought I would leave that in place with the beam below the two top plates. Will have a temp support wall on both sides before the beam goes in.
Should I remove the 2x4's at the top?
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When the company put out more news
people complained there was too much speculation and the company needed to shut down the news. Now that the company is very conservative on press releases... *sigh catch 22
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The NAPD class is 3 days initially and
includes hands on driver training in perception and reaction, turning, backing, braking, accerelating, and high speed manuvering. You have to recertify every year with NAPD. The qualification is based on the high end of the class running times throughout the class. In other words, the track surface and weather differ at each training location so you take the best score and determine a course qualifaction time.
In case you were wondering, these officers you are calling Rambo's are very well trained and are NOT flying by the seat of their pants. They have their vehicles under control, are following recognized proceedures, know the limitiations of the vehicle, and are professionally trained drivers. If you notice in the dramatic TV video, you don't see many police cars wrecking out, you see suspects crashing because they are generally untrained and ARE flying by the seat of their pants.
Until you have been to one of these 3 day classes, you can't imagine how intense it is and how good the training prepares you for pursuits. The SAME principles taught in NAPD can be applied to everyday driving. Taking this long class also lowers your own personal car insurance rates, it is recognized throughout the country and in Canada. Here is their web site:
http://www.napd.com/
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It is a two story ranch style house. Send me a PM with your email address and I will send you a pic of the actual construction site. We closed in the back porch and have extended out the kitchen. 20 foot beam needed.
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NEWS- Police K-9 brought back with CPR
CPR Revives Bear the Police Dog
2002-01-30 00:00:00
Scott Simpson, The Vancouver Sun
Tuesday, January 29, 2002
Bear, who suffered an electric shock, remains in veterinary care.
Vancouver police dog Bear and his handler had just finished tracking a suspect when the 21/2-year-old German shepherd suddenly yelped and fell unconscious in cardiac arrest.
But Bear came back from the brink of death after his handler performed mouth-to-snout resuscitation.
Members of the Vancouver police dog squad were returning to their vehicle Sunday, walking along Heatley Street when the dog stepped on an exposed electrical plate in the sidewalk.
Vancouver police spokeswoman Constable Sarah Bloor said Bear's handler, who has not been named and is still distressed by the incident, became aware that his partner was in distress when the dog began whining and yelping, then collapsed to the ground with what appeared at first to be a seizure.
But when his handler knelt down to touch him he, too, got an electrical shock and moved the dog to safety.
Bear fell into unconsciousness and then suffered cardiac arrest.
Bear's handler began performing mouth-to-snout resuscitation to keep the dog breathing while another officer assisted with chest compressions.
"Bear is a big boy but the 240 volts went right through him and caused him to go unconscious," Bloor said.
"The dog handlers are trained to deal with their animals," she said. "It's his partner. He'll do anything he can for the dog."
Bear began breathing but was still unconscious when taken to an emergency veterinary hospital.
Bear was recovering in a veterinary hospital on Monday. His handler and other squad members remain cautious about his recovery -- dogs that receive severe electrical shock are at risk of fatal complications from a possible buildup of fluid in the lungs.
"He's doing well today but we're not saying that he's out of the woods yet."
The plate was part of the connection for a street lamp located mid-block on the 400 block of Heatley.
Bloor said it appears insulation on wires located underneath the plate eroded, allowing current to transfer to the plate.
Bloor said she understood that the current would not be noticed by pedestrians wearing shoes because they would be insulated.
"A human wouldn't know. Yet, you get a paw, such as in this case with a police dog and that's when the metal would feel electrically 'hot.'"
She said the city was called and workers repaired the plate.
It's not the first time an animal has been injured in an encounter with a charged plate, said Bloor.
"Unfortunately, I think it has happened to other dogs that simply take a tinkle on a post, and it's live."
The department was declining media requests for photos of Bear in hospital and was not releasing the name of Bear's handler, who has reportedly had little sleep since the accident.
Dog squad Sergeant-in-charge Gord McGuinness said the animals are very special to their handlers.
"These dogs are more than dogs to their handlers," McGuinness said. "They're family members. They're with you 24 hours a day. Some of them have saved officers' lives, and they'll go to the ends of the earth to save their dogs."
He said CPR on a dog is "relatively easy -- you just keep his mouth closed and you blow into his nasal cavities. Then you just do, almost like a human, chest compressions, just back from the upper shoulder."
He said Bear was a precocious recruit whose training began when he was just a year old -- canine squad animals are usually six to 12 months older than that.
"He's a good, hard-working dog," McGuinness said. "He was a dog that I brought in from Saskatchewan. I don't like to start training dogs until they're 18 months to two years, but he showed the propensity to do the work.
"All through training he excelled. He had your typical puppy attitude but we worked through that."
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NEWS - Friendly fire suit tossed out
COP WIDOW'S 'FRIENDLY FIRE' SUIT TOSSED
The New York Post...01/30/2002
A Manhattan judge has thrown out a police widow's wrongful-death lawsuit against the NYPD for her hero husband's "friendly fire" death almost 14 years ago.
Elizabeth McCormack had charged in a multimillion-dollar suit that her late husband's 6-foot-2, 210-pound colleague should have been able to overpower a 4-foot-11, eight-months-pregnant, gun-toting drug suspect without shooting at her.
A police bullet meant for the pregnant woman instead went through the door of her apartment and into the neck of Sgt. John McCormack. He died two hours later.
In a decision made public yesterday, state Supreme Court Justice Sherry Klein Heitler found Mercedes Perez's size and condition had no bearing on the "justification for use of deadly force."
The shooting took place during a drug raid in the Inwood section of Manhattan on April 27, 1988.
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NEWS- Las Vegas NM Officer's conviction overturned:
Albuquerque Journal...01/30/2002
Mantelli Serving Time Out of State
The high-profile conviction of a former Las Vegas, N.M., police officer in the fatal shooting of an 18-year-old honor student an incident that resulted in a $ 4 million settlement for the shooting victim's family was overturned Tuesday by the state Court of Appeals.
The case of ex-officer Joseph Mantelli now returns to state district court, where it will be up to prosecutors to decide whether to retry him.
Mantelli, who remains in prison, had mixed feelings following the court's decision to reverse his conviction, said Gerald Baca, Mantelli's attorney.
While happy that he will have a chance to be acquitted in the Feb. 14, 1998, death of Abelino Montoya, Mantelli also was sad that he could not yet leave prison and return to his family, Baca said.
"He used to be one of these guys who was always hopeful, but this has taken a lot out of him; he's waiting for the other shoe to drop," Baca said.
The appeals court said in its ruling that state District Judge Eugenio Mathis should have instructed the jury in Mantelli's trial on justifiable homicide by a police officer.
Baca and Mantelli's other attorney, Joe Romero, sought the instruction, but Mathis didn't include it. The appeals court said Mantelli was entitled to have the jury told what constitutes justifiable homicide and that lack of the instruction effectively took away a possible defense.
The ruling means Mantelli is likely to face another trial but that he will remain in prison for a few more months while Baca works on a hearing to release him, Baca said.
The case was prosecuted in an October 1999 trial by then-Bernalillo County District Attorney Jeff Romero because of a conflict of interest for the office of District Attorney Matt Sandoval of Las Vegas.
"I think the big question now is who is going to handle it," Sandoval said. Since the October 1999 trial, Romero has been succeeded as the Bernalillo County district attorney by Kari Brandenburg.
Lorraine Montoya, Abelino Montoya's mother, said Tuesday that she was shocked by the appeals court decision.
"I'm really stunned," she said. "It's really devastating news to hear."
She said she believes a retrial would convict Mantelli again.
The family sued the city over their son's death in 2000. Las Vegas agreed to pay $ 4 million in cash and land to settle the family's claims, the largest settlement ever disclosed in New Mexico involving a police shooting. The city also agreed to name a recreation center after Abelino Montoya.
Mantelli, 28 at the time of his conviction, has been behind bars for three years. He was sentenced to serve 12 1/2 years in prison.
Baca won't disclose where his client is except to describe it as an "out-of-state prison," because knowledge that Mantelli is a former police officer may endanger him among his fellow prisoners.
The case sent shockwaves through Las Vegas and northeastern New Mexico.
Montoya, a recent graduate of Las Vegas' Robertson High School, was a popular student with roots in the community.
According to a State Police report, Mantelli and another officer, Sgt. Steve Marquez, chased a truck driven by Montoya and also carrying a passenger, Montoya's friend, Gabriel Rubio into a dead-end street. The officers believed the truck was the same one spotted earlier going the wrong way on a one-way street.
The truck backed into the officers' patrol car and tried to drive away, according to the police report.
Mantelli fired three times into the truck, hitting Montoya in the back and head. Marquez fired once at the truck.
Rubio was injured in the incident.
Prosecutors argued that Mantelli shot Montoya to prevent him from escaping and that he overstepped his authority as a police officer. Baca said Tuesday that Mantelli and Marquez feared for their lives and for the lives of others after they watched the truck back into their vehicle.
He said that without an instruction on justifiable homicide by a police officer when an officer believes that his safety or the safety of the public is in jeopardy jury members may have believed they had no other choice but to bring back a conviction of voluntary manslaughter.
Marquez had faced a felony fourth-degree charge of shooting at motor vehicle, but the charge was dismissed by Mathis, who cited a legal technicality.
Marquez was re-hired by the Las Vegas Police Department in late 2000 but resigned after community activists and the Montoya family criticized the department.
The Associated Press contributed to this article.
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HELP! with structure.
I am taking out a load bear wall in my house and need to know what size beam I need to span an opening of 20 feet. I am building a temp support wall and will put in the header to connect the two rooms together.
What size beam and what type construction? 2x14?
Laminated beam? What will cover 20 feet and prevent sag?
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We know where you live!
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OT >>>"Kiss a Red for me..."
Regards, FG
See, told you FG was a communist.
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Excel, regarding technology....
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My suggested solution to the chase problem:
OK, I'm sticking my neck out here and I am sure someone will take the opportunity to cut it off.
Most of the innocent victims in these vehicle chases have no clue a chase is in progress and these victims are obeying the traffic laws like everyone else. What if there was a way to notify them immediately of a chase or if they were entering into a danger area?
I would like to see an audio and visual display in every car manufactured in the US. An, "in car e-mail" type display for emergency road messages. The email would sound an alert and display "police chase in progress" or "road hazard ahead". Think this is funny or out of the question?
COBRA radar detectors already has it. The newest Cobra radar detectors have a display and audio receiver on the front. A device called a "Safety Alert" is the sending unit and this is installed in emergency vehicles. When the police have an accident blocking traffic, a chase, or whatever situation involving traffic, the "Safety Alert" device is activated by the officer. The device sends out an audio and alpha numeric message "Emergency Vehicle Approaching" or "Road Hazard Ahead".
The device has a range of 3,000 to 3,500 feet, about the same operating distance of the radar unit. The distance you will be notified of an active police radar running speed control. If your vehicle enters an area where there is a chase, road hazard, etc. your Cobra radar detector is activated with the message.
The K-band frequency is ideal because the public does not use it in most cases. (except some civil air patrols).
If you get the message and CONTINUE on the road without stopping, you are going so at your OWN RISK. Don't blame the police if you are broadsided by a fleeing vehicle.
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John, You are making several assumptions here:
You assume or elude to:
1. The offender is known or can easily be determined.
2. The vehicle is properly registered.
3. The person on the registration is still the owner or has an interest in the vehicle
4. The vehicle isn't stolen
5. The police cars have cameras.
Under the circumstances above, the chase can be called off.
Not all police cars have video cameras. The departements that are well funded have them, but they are few and far between. Only 10% of our police units have cameras. I'll bet in smaller departments, the percentage of car cameras is even smaller.
Most of the chases I have been involved in uncover more crimes than just the initial running a stop sign charge. They also involve stolen vehicles or other felonies, credit card abuse, sexual assaults, burglaries, robbery, even homicide. I agreed that a chase can and should be called off when:
1. The offender is know and there is no immediate or exigent need to apprehend.
2. The cimcumstances of the chase does not require an immediate apprehension.
Chases should CONTINUE when:
1. A violent offender is escaping.
or
2. Firearms are involved.
or
3. The offender is a most wanted.
or
4. There is reason to believe (based on facts) that more violence would occur is the offender is allowed to escape.
None other than Ted Bundy was captured after a high speed chase as was Henry Lee Lucas. Both started out as minor traffic violations, chase, and the apprehension of serial killers.
What you see on TV is the sensationalization for TV ratings. I cringe when I see them and it almost hurts to watch. I do not enjoy being involved in a chase (I did when I was a Rookie) and compare chases to road rage incidents. Have you ever had someone cut you off, flip you off, or nearly run you over? Felt angry? That is what is going on in the mind of some of the officers involved in these chases. No wonder some of the chases result in excessive force incidents. What we call the "post 10-80 ass whipping". (10-80 is a police code of vehicle pursuit)
Usually after a chase I file every possible charge I can against the driver. This includes wreckless conduct - recklessly lacing another in a situation where they could suffer serious bodily injury. In some cases "Deadly Conduct" -Conducts that through accident, neglect, caused serious injury to another. If the vehicle was used to ram another vehicle, it is attempted murder. A vehicle used in this manner IS a deadly weapon.
Police are training in high speed driving. There is a specific technique used for turns etc. Our training came through an organization called NAPD or the National Academy Police (or professional) Driving. The techniques do work.
Many of the US customs chases involve aircraft, crashes, and death. I don't see anyone up in arms about those chases. Maybe someone will be after Sept 11th.
I am still searching for an article and Discovery TV program I saw where an officer called off a chase with a black 2 door vehicle. The vehicle got away and the two occupants raped and killed a girl that night. The officer was in tears for calling of the chase. The two were eventually apprehended based on DNA evidence. The vehicle had been stolen and was used in this murder.
Police chases are called off EVERY DAY. The next time hear about a violent criminal act, ask yourself if that was one of those criminals that previously got away when the police called off a chase.
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NEWS- Four Officers win awards after standoff
Portland Press Herald...01/30/2002
Four officers with the Lincoln County Sheriff's Department have received the Presidential Award for Valor for their efforts to prevent a suicide in Bremen last summer.
Lt. Seth Blodgett of Waldoboro, Sgt. Daniel Sceviour of Boothbay Harbor, Deputy Brendan Kane of East Boothbay and Deputy Derek Cola of Edgecomb were nominated by Sheriff William C. Carter.
The incident involved a mentally distraught man who threatened to commit "suicide-by-cop" while barricading himself in his home in June. The officers risked their lives to save the man when they entered the home and subdued him without using deadly force, said Chief Deputy Daniel Bradford.
The award is given annually to a nominee from a Maine sheriff whose actions exemplify his own ideals and spirit.
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NEWS- 1st Pamela Anderson video, now Tyson video
The New York Post...01/30/2002
POLICE probing the latest rape charge against Mike Tyson have seized hours of steamy video tapes that show the ex-champ having sex.
Sources tell PAGE SIX that the videos of the hell-raising heavyweight along with other evidence were carted off from Tyson's Las Vegas ranch by detectives last September.
It's unclear who the woman is caught on tape with Tyson, or if she knew she was being taped. But sources claim cops have "hours and hours" of pugilistic porno featuring Tyson.
Las Vegas cops recently completed a four-month probe into a woman's claim that Tyson raped her in his home. The woman, who sources say has worked as a topless dancer, was in a romantic relationship with Tyson for at least six months prior to the alleged rape.
On Sept. 26, Las Vegas police removed boxes of evidence from Tyson's ranch, but a district judge sealed court documents that would have revealed what was seized.
No charges have yet been filed. But sex-crimes detectives have forwarded the results of their investigation to the district attorney's office, and have asked prosecutors to approve felony assault charges against Tyson.
Neither Las Vegas Police Lt. Jeff Carlson, who is heading the Tyson probe, nor Tyson's lawyer, Darrow Sol, returned our calls.
Sources had earlier told PAGE SIX it was unlikely Tyson would be charged by Las Vegas authorities before his scheduled fight this spring with heavyweight champ Lennox Lewis.
But yesterday, in the wake of last week's brawl at a Manhattan press conference to promote the bout, the Nevada State Athletic Commission rejected Tyson's bid for a license to fight Lewis at the MGM Grand on April 6. The highly anticipated match was expected to generate a whopping $300 million for the city.
And Tyson's luck - and his career - could be over permanently if he gets charged in the rape case. Last July, he was accused of sexually assaulting a 50-year-old woman in Big Bear, Calif., but a prosecutor decided there wasn't enough evidence to charge him. Tyson spent three years in jail for raping beauty pageant contestant Desiree Washington in 1992.
Tyson's second wife, pediatrician Monica Turner, filed for divorce earlier this month, claiming adultery, although no one was named in the court papers.
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Why do you call them Rambo chases?
The police are attempting to apprehend criminals. I was taught to stop for the police and obey the law. If they will run and resist the police, imagine what they will do to you if you get in their way.
I think the police need to ESCALATE the use of force when a person runs in a 3000+ lb. weapon. Take the vehicle out immediately.
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Catch 22...
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. Just look at the Jeffery Dahmer case. Police were criticized for not taking action. More than one serial killer has been captured after police chases. There needs to be more acountability for the CRIMINAL, and the increased use of force against those that use a vehicle as a deadly weapon.
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Yea, were still here.
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Joe Wrote:
MY 2000TH POST - WHOA CRAP!
Post what?
Post Traumatic Stress Disorder?
Post Office?
Post haste?
Postpartum depression?
You aren't going to drown your kids are you?
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