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Anybody else getting the idea that we might be riding a loser here?
The Walgreen deal was supposed to be by March... now well into April and no updates... PPS plunging.
Sorry, I have a feeling we are toast here. The CEO should at least provide guidance on the companies efforts and the status of the deals... right?
If the Walgreen deal or any other was legit and close to roll-out, there would be some good activity to back it up, IMO...
Yes, I know that GG and TP don't like skeptics, but let's deal with real PCLI facts here, not endless speculation on the potential of the industry.
Why is GG still a Mod?
GLTA!
Nice day and volume?!?!?
Looks like around $450 in volume... total. 45,000 shares. That is nice?
Bid is at .01, if you sold at .02 my congrats! I don't see how you could... unless the MM's left here are manipulating to get the last drop of blood...
Not much news lately, is there?
Wonder when this stock will be pulled?
Place your bets... stock de-listed or .49/share????
Remember to use spell check and grammar check guys!
PPS Action does not look good for the 10K...
Insiders must not be loading up in anticipation of good news... I am afraid if the 10K is lousy, we start down the drain... can anybody wait another 3 months with this financing in place?
I am starting to think a merger is the only way we will get some of our money back. I have trimmed my position here, wish I never heard of this stock!
Oh, well... maybe a rabbit will be pulled out of the hat... but sorry, I doubt it.
GLTA!
Hi, gang!
I agree, Rube...
With the core business making huge gains, why mess around with the lousy TV shows? Ratings very good for WWTBAM but they drop it? How about selling it to some other company for crying out loud? Something smells in the whole WWTBAM deal.
What would this PPS look like with NO TV nonsense? I agree, at least .25! And .25 will do me just fine!
I Mak a wanna be big Hollywood type? Hope not. The China market for TV shows and the "partnership" with the government is a crap shoot... stick with the great expansion of the core business and we will be great... keep messing around with shows that may make it or may lose millions? Why bother?
Hope we move strong on the core business news.
GLTA
Where is Brother Han?
Well... if we don't get good news...
They come with soda crackers. Cheap soda crackers.
Why the big dump?? I was hoping SH would have some good to great news for us... maybe a slim chance of that still?
Boy, talk about an optimist! I am changing my name to Lao Nero!
Jeeze...
Looks like the news might not be so good... people bailing big time here...
Oh well, maybe next year?
Ah, well, back to PBJ sandwiches for the nest 6 months.
Anyone hear from SH?
Great stuff, thanks!
Wonder where Mediascan got to?
He used to always have great TA here...
Hope the new shows rock, AND, that we get some info on what the heck happened to WWTBAM!!
Hope we all get some much needed relief... Gas-X just is no longer working!
GLTA!
Funny, I was restricted for mentioning other stocks...
here you are pumping another stock...
Hope they pop you too... fair is fair, right, GG?
I wonder if Matt is watching?
Not a big deal is it?
He is now richer by $27,600.
Doesn't sound like he is feathering his own nest much, does it.
razor's edge.
Place your bets.
I agree that the industry will emerge...
But.
The big question, of course, is if PCLI will be among the industry players...
I also agree that news has to be coming soon... but. It may be bad news, and the current PPS would tend to support that conclusion. If a deal with Walgreens was close to solid, wouldn't the PPS be climbing? Even insider word of mouth would be getting this thing going a little, no?
It sounds like Polar Frog and Sonic are way ahead in the race for Walgreen's and other accounts. They actually are doing business in similar environments, so I would think that they may be preferable to a Walgreens or whoever that is considering kiosks in-store.
Hey, I still own lots of this, and have been creamed, like many others... so I really hope for good news soon. But, as time goes on, I am getting a feeling that PCLI is going to be left behind.
Sorry, just mt opinion. Glad to have someone cheer me up... but with facts, not speculation.. We have all had plenty of THAT.
GLTA!
That is possible... I hope it is soon...
This thing is on a razors edge... at .001, the company, if it continues to pay expenses with ultra cheap shares, is going to go under, and soon... IMHO.
On the other hand, if there ARE good sales numbers, we have a chance. Not sure why SH is being so quiet. He had a few positive PR's awhile ago, which would lead one to believe that he was on track as far as sales go... but seems to be a little too quiet now. Is there a benefit to him with this PPS at .001? I wouldn't think so! He is paying normal expenses with .001 shares, so he is diluting the heck out of this every month. If the lender has to take this over, and I can't imagine, with all of the shares the lender is getting that they are not close to control, they might just fold their tent and sell the WebDA technology to the highest bidder after the fold up to recoup their losses.
And an "acquisition"?? With what? Cash? No, there is none. Shares? Come on! So I am doubtful that this is a real possibility. Who would be willing to be "purchased' by a company in this financial condition?? And as time goes on, the technology of the WebDA will be cloned by some other company, if it is worth doing... or someone could buy control of THIS company, if less expensive than the development costs, at .001-.003/share... pretty dang cheap, even with the big OS number.
This is now nothing more than a wild gamble, so let the dice roll.
GLTA!
All $680 dollars worth...
I do admire your optimism, bud.
Kilgore, I lost a few thou here.. could have been much worse.
I'd love to see some legal action against these crooks, but doubt if it has a chance...
Dino's not doing much updating... are they?
What happened to the Q & A that was supposed to happen? I guess it got delayed... I don't think they have the answers to the questions any sane investor must ask... sound familiar?
I agree, MCA...
What are they going to buy with, grocery coupons?
Even a merger with the right company would be OK by me...
I'm hoping that Stevie surprises us with better than expected news of signups and or acq/merger...
Heck, a guy can hope can't he??
I think he is working hard... we just might get there yet.
Well, the 20 million volume looks good with a green close...
Until you realize that is only $22,000 in trades.
And again, if this technology is useful and has great potential, why is not some competitor with deeper pockets not buying it up?
Maybe SH will pull this off, but I think the patient is barely cling to life, vital signs very unstable, and the prognosis is very grim.
But, since zero is not far off, and selling for .0011 is out, why not be optimistic?
I am bummed that there has been no update on the "acquisition", at least to let us know that it is still in the works and moving towards conclusion...
Oh well.
All of this potential is great...
BUT.
The reason we are at around a penny is that there is NO verifiable business deal in place, just some speculation about maybe being in the running with one or two retailers for maybe a deal or at least a trial run.
That is not much, thus, a penny.
I am optimistic, why not after losing 90%+ on my investment?
I am hoping to recoup my losses, and think that there is a possibility that I will.
But this is taking a LONG time to get any deal in place. The Walgreens IF is nice, I hope it comes through. Where are all of the other deals with other major retailers? Aren't there several and if not, why not? Are all of the eggs in the Walgreens basket? If so... bad news.
Let's be realistic... until an actual deal is signed, a fairly big one, we will stay at a penny or drift lower. How about a company PR to let us all know what is going on with PCLI??
GLTA
WOW! 11 million shares already?
Can we finally be ready for a great PR?????
Up nicely on big volume... great!
But we have a long way to go before the goose on Exlax is feeling better!!
Maybe the merger is ready?
Maybe the 150 dealers are in the house?
Maybe I can afford McDonalds tonight???
Mr Lucky, you may be a basher, but at least you have a sense of humor... which is appreciated in these grim times... I hope we both win big.
So the market cap is now around $600,000 for all of the OS.
Not much but up from here, eh?
Or not. But if some significant income can be created, this PPS has to move strong upward... looks like it is going to be a close thing... I do not see any worthwhile proprietary stuff here, or a buyout would be a real possibility at these lousy PPS levels...
And a buyout would be great... I wonder if the acquisition is off the rails... cannot imagine this company buying anything, so maybe it is a merger... which would be welcome.
I think SH is trying, but the toxic financing maybe is just too much to overcome... I hope not, as I have a huge hole in my pockets.
Hi, Check,
Hey, I did not mean to step on your toes, didn't know you were still loaded here.
I really do think this thing is a dead duck, sorry! I hope there is at least a hint of a deal so you can get out...
Is this a going company? Are they making any money or doing any business? I am not being sarcastic, I really do not know... the lack of any PR's is a really bad sign, IMO... So many red flags with this thing.
I really hope that you do well in all of your plays... I personally have PCLI and DLAV... both are not a sure thing by ANY stretch, but I think maybe better potential than this thing. Spec, but some real possibilities.
You are a good egg, Check, and I wish you success.
And for me too!!
Nice to see a good philosophy discussion here...
You might not be able to prove anything... yet, but you can come close... very close.
For example, a buyout at .49 soon, and a PPS of around 2 cents.
THAT is pretty close!
Didn't the Dino's mention something about several other potential buyers when the Lesko scheme was going on?? Wonder where they all went?
Nothing on the PR wire since 12/17... I guess there is no need to let the shareholders know anything, even after the collapse of the PPS...
I have a nickel that says the Q&A is either canceled or is a set-up for a final P&D. I was hoping that the Q&A would be held at the Federal lockup anyway...
GLTA!!
How the hell did we not sell it when it did?
Hi, gang!
Don't count on the Mak-a-doodle crowing anytime soon... but I did have some hopes for the new guy... he seems to be making things happen, at least...
I think with the apparent belly-flop on WWTBAM, investors are going to want to see a verifiable cash producing winner before they give mak the quack any money...
I think we will get there one of these days... probably when I am on medicare with dementia.
Hi, Wize,
You need to remember, many of us loyal shareholders have lost a significant amount of green here... When a stock goes down 95%, don't we have a right to grouse a little?
This Walgreens thing is not a done deal, and has dragged on for a long time. Supposed to happen in March... but nope. No CEO update to explain either.
From another post we are NOT the only one with the CSS protection package... not good.
SO bear with us folks who have been scorched, and admire us for hanging in there and waiting for the pot of gold at the end of this LONG rainbow.
One can be a big cheerleader, like the missing GG or the mega poster TP, but we need news and PPS upward moves... and big ones, or the cheerleading sounds a little hollow, doesn't it?
Fair?
Morning, Lucky,
No, he did not... I think he is not big on returning phone calls... one needs to catch him in the office and willing to take a call live... like I did last time.
I am hopeful he is working his butt off getting new dealers or maybe like the Calgary thing many dealers at once together... And I am hopeful that the next PR states that they have enough to stop the toxic dilution... that is his big goal...
We should have had an update on the acquisition by now, I am concerned that we have not.
But, thinking positively, A PR addressing success in both dealer sign-ups, end of the financing troubles and the acquisition COULD be coming... and if it does... we finally can start the long road upward. Fast and strong, I would hope!
Keep trying to call him directly, and I will do likewise.
Luck to us all (longs)!!
P.S. Those last 2 PR's are potentially VERY powerful... they could significantly increase the dealer count and fast... and that means the end is near on the toxic financing... sounds like SH is doing a great job for us...
I completely agree, tryz, good post...
The info coming out is nada... and Ted, I am really hoping for a big news release, then we will be fine... but a 95% collapse here? Very bad news. Stock didn't just drift down, it collapsed. With all of the potential, I am very worried as to the extent of the collapse.
Another thought... with the Walgreens deal supposedly around the corner, and hopefully several other retailers considering this, would you not think that the insiders would be spreading the word to their family and friends to buy buy buy?? That alone should have supported the PPS... no?
And I do not like fluff either, but a reassuring "Our business plan is in place, we have MANY potential deals in the works, we should be able to get on top of the financing issues, and we are excited about the future" would be nice...
basically we have had almost silence since the collapse, and that is NOT a good thing.
Still hopeful I can move out of this dumpster, as the internet connection is not good, and the menu needs improvement!!
I don't mean to be sarcastic...
But this stock DID make a huge move in 3 months.
Down.
I am still a little confused... the Walgreens "deal" was on the table then too. With all of this great potential, the supposedly proprietary technology, and the other possible deals... why did the stock plummet by 95%??
I am still in.
Not because I am a big believer, as I got scorched here... but because there is simply no reason to bail at this puny PPS. Not much difference between .01 and .00 to me.
While I still am hopeful, I can't be a cheerleader... yet.
GLTA
Jeepers, Kilgore...
One might think that you think that the Dino's are dishonest!!
The PR is right around the corner... then we blast off to .49.. yipee!!
Nice reputable buyer, everything signed and ready, all disclosures made, booming balance sheet, honest Russian broker... heck, it is all going to come together soon!!
Glad I got on these hallucinogens... I feel much better about this stock!!
Nice post, Kenny!
Either SH makes this a winner... or not.
Why sell here for peanuts?
Bought the ticket, now I take the ride... so far, a ride down to irritable bowel syndrome...
But... MAYBE, SH has many new dealers, MAYBE, the acquistion is going to go through soon...
And MAYBE... I am Abe Lincoln's great grandson!!
Hah! Just kidding! I think we will be ok, after our hair is all snowy white and we are too stressed out to enjoy our new wealth.
It said so on his voicemail.
This has been a tough ride down... but we are SO low now, why sell?
I am going to give SH a chance to pull this rabbit out of his... er... hat.
Not much choice, is there?
Not adding here, but not selling either. If he can stop the toxic financing, we win. If not, poof.
Pretty simple. He IS signing new deals, but is he getting up to the magic 150? Dunno.
I put in a call to Steve this morning, he has the flu, but I hope he gets back to me...
I had a great talk with him a few months ago, he was upfront and honest about the challenges (toxic financing), the opportunities and his plans for the future.
I am looking forward to a similar conversation... I think he is a good egg, and will only hit a home run for himself through PPS increases. He does not like the financing any more than we do, and is working on it.
I will update if he calls.
GLTA, especially... ME!
Hi, Hep, Zaq, Lucky, War, Loop,
Nice to see many of the "old gang" here... what a kick in the groin here today!
Things looking up, though, IMO, that new guy is a mover! For some reason, all of my picks are getting hit today... bad day for micros?
Whatever, I am holding firm here, just a matter of time... BUT, I sure wish I had to deal with the pressure of huge gains rather than with inexplicable drops!!
YAK!!
I'm not an expert investor... but down 30%+ on a decent fluffer PR? Guess you are right, Gilee, fluffs don't work...
Well, can't sell here, so, put on the hair shirt and wait... what else to do?
What is the OS/AS here now? Seems like this great potential is available to any big company on the cheap... no?
CEO better sign some firm deals soon, or I am going to have to move out of my comfortable dumpster to a less advantageous location...
Hey, Gilee, I agree about the Tums...
With all of the potential here, you might think the CEO or someone would issue a little PR to let us know all is well and things are progressing... I don't like fluff, but a little here would be reassuring...
This needs to have a confirmed deal... I understand that things are confidential, but no PR's for a long time equals a bad colon.
I'm short on $$$... Did you know that boiled cat is not bad if you add enough paprika?
hard to keep them under the boiling water at first, but worth the trouble! If this stock moves, I will be back on regular T-Bones and Veal chops.
Hi, War!
nice to hear... I was thinking the singing bee thing would be the best, glad to hear you like the bowling thing better!!
I wonder what the heck happened with WWTBAM?? Is it dead, suspended, or what? I can't believe that it was a total flop, can you? Maybe they can revive it or sell the rights...
I hope the core business continues to grow, we will get to the promised land eventually!
Sooner the better, if it is OK with you all...
Here is a simple solution...
Redbox should merge with PCLI.
What a brain, eh??
At out PPS, who knows? Maybe not so far-fetched... give the option to rent or buy at the same kiosk?
Or just a buy-out... say, .17/share? Sound reasonable?
Does to me!!
Hey, as long as they have "Whispering Smith" with Alan Ladd!
(even great intellects need a break sometimes!)
GLTA
Yep, we had a good time there for awhile...
Maybe again, eh? That new singing show will be a winner, I think... aren't the Chinese crazy about karaoke (SP?)?
I was jailed for responding to several really crude PM's by a guy who is now a moderator! You might know him, his handle is, appropriately, the same as a very ugly breed of dog.
I am still restricted to 3/day... what a rip.
Oh, well, best of luck to us old hands here, I am hoping for a move back to the .20 range... Have some hopes for PCLI as well...
We need Mediascan back too... And even Han if he is on his good behavior!!
I am also into karma...
And I agree with you.
If some here can take some joy in seeing a 33% uptick, great. But when they see that it was done on a total volume of $900... it takes a little away from the glee... no?
This is probably too small a deal for the SEC to get worked up over, but it would make me feel better to see the Dino's do a couple of years in the calaboose for this blatant swindle.
Think no news is good news?
It's not.
Best of luck to all... elsewhere. This duck is dead.
Hi, Check!!
Great to see some old good guys here still...
I trimmed a little, but still hold a bunch here... man if I only bailed in the .30's... I would be a handsome dude...
I really like the new guy, getting busy with new deals that just might be hits... and he works fast. Now, if he can salvage WWTBAM (why NO news update on it?), we will be good to go.
My threesome all got creamed, so I went from smoked salmon to baked rat... and it does not agree with my digestive system... so... let's rock!!
I agree...
We just need something firm and real, and then I think we move hard to the upside... maybe with the wait, several good things will come together at one time... sweeeeet!
When we make the BIG move from potential to reality, we will all be very pleased here... and a buyout or merger might be a very good thing too...
Best of fortune to us all!
hi, Mjay!
Nice to see ya here... yep, I miss Han's posts too, I hate to admit it...
I agree that the new guy might be the real deal... we all be happy campers if this thing can push to .30's again... get the old gang together again.
I am still limited to 3/day... they really restricted me, and for a LONG time... I know you are an ex-jailbird yourself...
Well, I hope we can have some fun here again, and I think we will.
See ya!
lao (Solloans)
I appreciate the pos posts here...
While I get a bit surly at times, I think we just need ONE real, confirmed deal, WITH kiosk placements to get the show on the road here...
Not too worried about the AS, they might be concerned about a takeover... and should be if this is the real deal... PPS is too cheap, and some smart outfit would benefit by buying a BIG chunk...
I have waited a long time here, a little more time won't kill me.
And I don't know of any better plays... so...
Wait a few more months, and hope for the best... .60?
Seems like the new guy has done more in 1.5 months...
Than Mak has done in a year! I like this guys style... a couple of new ventures already, and hopefully he can get the WWTBAM straightened out...
At least SOMETHING is happening here... finally!
Aside from core business gains... which are great.
Maybe we can claw all the way back to the .30's... would be very sweet.
GLTA