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Good morning AZBO… a question for you.
What are your thoughts on why Vois is so mum about releasing significant information (through utilization of marketing tools such as social media exposure, informative interviews on high profile news programs, release of profession video, etc…we all know the long list)? This would surly begin to tell the world (now…not in 3 months) that this company exists, demonstrates all of the capabilities that this incredible product presently has command of, outlines the limitless areas and sectors of influence that are possible, that the product is soon to be released and after a considerable frenzy has been generated……where they can camp out or at least stand in line to get their hands on one?
Shorting and market manipulation (as your article so aptly lays out in great detail, thank you for that) admittedly are the scourge of the investment community and I would suspect that the majority of those here fully understand the concept. But MY assessment of the current frustration of investors on this board is with the non performance of MSI company management in this area. Nonperformance in releasing critical information and promoting the company that is severely hampering upward movement of the PPS and has been an additional contributor in its precipitous decline and constant erosion….possibly to as much of a degree as shorting or manipulation. Aggressive performance in these areas (I’m sure most would agree) will trump the “dark side” and quickly begin moving the company toward the goals they wish to achieve and not moving further backward.
Either they currently have some, most or all of this information……or they have none! After all of the PR’s (post beta testing) about seamlessly moving in to the tooling, manufacturing and distribution channel phases (begs the question…what the heck has Joe been doing) and moving the timeline 2 months ahead to accomplish all of this, I don’t want to believe that it is because of the last choice.
Sorry for the rambling, but to reestablish my question in all of this…..What are your thoughts about why VOIS seems to be reluctant to inform the world that ….we are here, inform them …..about what we do…. and give them more than enough reasons to want to invest and be part of the company that’s spearheading the future of this technology.
Thank you friend…
update today from Brian William for those who may be interested (includes a chart)
http://brianwilliam630.tumblr.com
if MSI DOESN'T have the money now to hire the PR company, develop the marketing campaign with a full blown professional video in order to put it all in to action in the span of 60-90 days, then where are they going to come up with it in time to make it all happen before product launch?
if MSI DOES have the money now, then why on GOD's green earth wouldn't they be initiating a limited early phase of the program NOW and ramp it up to build the buzz over 60-90 days... for a product that is supposedly intended to stand the tech world on it's ear?
I have no answer for either of these scenarios and I don't even want to think that it's because there is no intention of instituting a marketing plan at all.
only my thoughts here trying to make sense of this all now that the timelines have moved, a booth at the CES was said to be too expensive to purchase (at what would appear to be a most opportune time to particpate) and there is no mention that a PR firm has been secured and a marketing plan and major video production are in progress....only that we have it in the plan to do so. WHEN??
In my mind....NOT GOOD! all sincere thoughts are welcome.
you are moving on I take it
this will move if Vois motivates new blood to invest (including additional buying from jazzed up longs) by implementing the planned killer marketing campaign.....which needs to start NOW. We are beginning moulding of the product and we can't pound the social media and sew up some significant TV segments and roll out a well done video? Why not? Unconscionable (IMO) to wait until Mar/Apr to unleash all of it.
Create the buzz early and build on it as it grows legs!!!
ADVERTISE IT AND THEY WILL COME! The building part will catch up... (my ranting thoughts only - formulate your own)
beat the warning drum until you're happy but Vois has the goods and those that can...will wait.
as of this morning from the PR we all have the program going forward that the company has projected. Regrettably no dates in time specified for each phase.
Nasty downturn. Need some updates here to turn things around.
The assumption was you were asking for "updates from the company" on the status of product development that would pull us out of the ditch...hence my reply of No change since Nov....still idling on the runway burning fuel.
sorry if I mis-interpreted your post.
just received our updates. almost first in line now but still idling on the tarmac in anticipation of clearance for take off from the tower.
just thought you might like to tell him face to face what you think of how the company and their IR departmant treats (or deceives) their investors. I got it loud and clear, over and out....no further discussion required.
light1...why not call his cell phone and arrange to meet him somewhere on the floor or for lunch. You could see the new earpiece and ask him how he (or Joe if there) is using it as a marketing tool without a full booth setup or at least the minimal accessories that adequately tell the story. All this speculation and innuendo of who is or is not doing what...or if the team is even in attendance is ludicrous if in fact all of you are virtually bumping shoulders and have never met. Who knows...you may be staying in the same hotel on the same floor... lol
I called Casey to vent my frustration but he didn't have much time to talk because they are at the Vegas show. I got the idea that Joe may be with them. They have a couple of prototypes in hand and as Casey said " to show interested parties that Joe would like to approach about the product.
I asked about front end loading the PR, social media and marketing and he said they were ready to go in all phases (I guess we'll see). It was a 60 second conversation and that's the best I can decipher what he was trying to tell me.
I urge others to call him as well and try to verify that Joe is there with the product and has his salesman's hat on. Also push the need for immediate marketing and media help in light of the fact that Nov-Dec was wasted. He probably won't have much time to talk.
Casey told me between Christmas/New Years that they were going but no booth (too expensive).
So there's another statement up for debate. Please don't shoot the messenger again or will I quit relaying what I hear from him altogether. But I will still keep calling him REGULARLY!
2015 International CES, January 6-9 Las Vegas, NV
attending the conference...may not be until next week....
sorry for mis interpreting this line from your post "
I asked Casey if he has seen the BEST BCI Earpiece work in real time use. He said yes. He said he used it in person. So either Casey is a good liar or he is telling the truth. Time will tell if Casey is telling the truth.
just forget it!
Last week I asked Casey if he had ever personally used the new device and if so, how well did it work and what were it's capabilities? He said that he had not personally tried it out yet but that the company was sending him one soon. Please see Stockmans post from 12/23.
Someone else or a couple board members NEED TO CALL CASEY and ask THE VERY SAME QUESTION and see what he says. Nice guy... but what's up here!!
Stockman1010101 Member Level Tuesday, 12/23/14 12:18:32 AM
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Several weeks ago I asked Casey if he has seen the BEST BCI Earpiece work in real time use. He said yes. He said he used it in person. So either Casey is a good liar or he is telling the truth. Time will tell if Casey is telling the truth. For now we have to trust that he is being honest with us. To date Casey has never lied to me on anything. So I take it that he is telling the truth. You folks just need to be patient and give them the benefit of the doubt. If they dont deliver then you can crucify them in the press. GLTA.
Joe was hired to set up distribution channels for the new product AND entertain partnership or buyout possibilities concurrently. NOW in the middle of the production phase and preparing for distribution, he is concentrating on the buyout possibilities. Channels are in place? Great! Would be a good thing to know. hmmmmmm....
and no offense taken....Happy New Year!
I can see how that came across as such Carmel, but I was only eluding to the fact that if this guy delays in researching VOIS and Joe is able to strike up a union with a significant party ...to ANY degree...then this was a gold nugget he missed. And the tech guru that he is failed to recognize the game changer in the BCI industry for at least THIS decade if not longer.
thanks for you insight on my ambiguity..
See below the article posted today by Geoffrey Fowler at the wsg.
I emailed Geoffrey a couple of times this morning (once including gia's article about hearables) that he should research VOIS extensively in the BCI arena. Pushed the fact that Joe may beat his research to the punch with a partnership or sale of the company and his eventual recognition will be just a little too late to the party as a tech guru. Don't expect to hear back but just trying to roll the stone up the hill
http://www.wsj.com/articles/the-tech-that-will-change-your-life-in-2015-1419965733?mod=ST1
nice finish!
Brooksda....we can believe that there was a delay since the Nov PR and the one in early Dec. but you just can't label that a delay in this phase of development of a new technology. Forward thinking that "the delay" translates in to an 8-12 week production timeframe and deducing that it will be "made up (how) and we will be on track for end of production on the inside track (8 week) of the schedule. You and all of us investors had best anticipate at least 12 weeks from 12/3/14 and don't set the date for a celebration just yet. Shit happens!
any bets on a repeat today of yesterdays 40M share shenanigans in the last half hour of trading?. 10m sell immediately followed by a 10m buy and a number of other large trades slamming the pps down to .0013 and then having it snap back to .0016 in the last 5 minutes.
that was a pretty funky ride that eventually wound up finishing at the same pps as before the fireworks began. all thoughts and opinions are welcome.......
would love to know more about the buy/sell and the effect on the plus/minus ticker reflecting the sentiment of the last trade. Cutting this short...if I BUY on the bid...does it show as a + or a - on the ticker of the last trade? It's a buy for sure... but it's lower than the last buy and lower than the asking price at the time of the trade. Can a buy appear as a sell?
thanks for any info you can provide...
classic "question of the day" and most likely the next 2 days as well.
turn the page on Jan. 5.
this weeks tax selling has been in the cards...no doubt. But I can't believe the shorts weren't anticipating a big "piling on dump party" just to fan the flames of a sell off in order to find a bottom for the day.
Tuesday and Wednesday shenanigans on tap......
POSTED BY BRIAN WILLIAMS ON THE YAHOO MESSAGE BOARD FOR VOIS
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brianwilliam630 • Dec 23, 2014 6:34 PM
Short Volume trading notes for 12/23/14
Date - VolShorted - ShortVol - RegularVol
Dec 23 - 18.53% - 2,687,032 - 14,502,163 ( Channel accumulation is increasing! )
Dec 22 - 3.71% - 312,593 - 8,435,097
Dec 19 - 46.33% - 4,694,957 - 10,133,348
My expectation is the next pr will contain the name of the BCI device because VOIS management have received input from shareholders and have discussed amongst inside management regarding the name of the micro BCI device. I am also excited for the next PR from VOIS because I believe the Company has plans to announce the date pre-orders will be made available to all shareholders of record. This is why I don't trade this stock when it is in accumulation phase. I don't mind day traders at all, but they will find themselves disappointed when news breaks…
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Questioned by another poster about why he believes all of this will occur……….answer below.
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brianwilliam630 • Dec 23, 2014 9:58 PM
I am anticipating such news in the next PR because in my opinion, as positive developments continue in the area of fine tuning the BCI device, using inferences from past PR's it would be reasonable to include such information given that such timing would be near the centerpoint of the process. If such news is not included in the next PR, I am saving this company to become a huge winner in early 2015 - as it brings distruptive technology into a fairly new market for large scaled deployment. The key word is LARGE scale. That’s my theme of focus. Always. I do not normally invest in early technology such as VOIS, but instead like to build on winners; because winning products create winning 10q's. If marketing is strategically executed by the use of Abram's distribution channels VOIS has the makings of a winner. Good luck to you and enjoy the Christmas season!
I've always felt (see my earlier posts) that he has known since he was first approached by MS to be an adviser or I don't believe he would have ever come on board last May. The beta testing was the culmination and delivered the confirmation of what he already knew to be the capability of the product.
Now....what can he do to deliver it to the masses and or deliver the company to a suitor with deep pockets.
no argument here!
picked up some 15's today....thank you Santa!
If management decided not to release a PR last week its MSI management decision not Casey's.
Casey (bless his heart) is talking out of school and may not know it.
Why not? He is feeding us credible company progress...supposedly...is he not/
as I said....if they don't have anything to report, then don't tell us that you do and it will be coming in a few days or so.
Jim, it must be obvious from my posts that I am not attacking anyone on this board. I am just reiterating the information that board members have been told by the company...and that's it. Did that not read through?
Casey's response to Jim yesterday:
Jim121 Monday, 12/22/14 02:12:33 PM
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I talked to Casey an hour ago, He has a planned phone call with mind solutions this afternoon, So hopeful that we have a PR this week.
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Why is Casey calling the company for an update to create a PR A WEEK AFTER he tells Stockman something should be out in "a few days or so".
not liking this apparent foot dragging one bit at this juncture!....
Casey's Pr report to Stockman on 12/15 reads:
Stockman1010101 Member Level Monday, 12/15/14 03:03:45 PM
Re: None
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Just spoke with Casey, more progress updates PRs will be released in a few days or so.
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Doesn't appear that a PR will be out today...at least not before the open.
Tomorrow or Friday....most likely off for Christmas.
In that case it will be at least next Monday"OR SO".
I guess "OR SO" must mean something on the order of 2 weeks "OR SO".
If you DON'T have anything meaningful for us, please DON'T SAY that you do.
If you DO have wonderful news updates....does it really take 2 weeks plus to condense it into a news release?
Merry Christmas wishes and a safe Holiday everyone!
will Monday pick up where the Friday close left off? only the man behind the curtain knows the answer to that. Banking on some PR next week. No fluff.....gimme some meat to brighten the holiday season and instill heightened confidence that "this is real" as we move in to Q1 2015. A lot of futures riding on the fact that "it is" !
Azbo my man, the financial risk that we all take doesn't compare in any way to the risk that we all take on if we pass on information about VOS that prompts others to invest and it doesn"t deliver. The highest risk is family, followed by close friends and if you care to have a job in your town again...your work associates. Proposing a stock tip, let alone a sub penny tip....to anyone, I repeat...to anyone places a target on your chest.
We know what we own but you will play hell convincing very few else that this is real until "ITS REAL". We will have millions and then lavish family and friends with gifts when VOIS hits. If you bring everyone that you know in to the mix and then it all goes south...then I don't have to tell you what the risk factor was before the whole damn thing began. What you have in it $$$, is only the beginning of the TOTAL risk involved. The emotional risk will be worse than the financial. You may be able to afford the loss but those that followed your lead may not be so fortunate.
Damn it's tough making millions....there's just so much emotional baggage that tags along whether you like it or not!!
See you in Allentown...
risk nothing...gain nothing. Your naysayers will never lose cent a on VOIS. Those that chose to "play" need to know what they own before they purchase...and I'm sure you will educate them as to how to hold through the dips and the rough times.Wonderful job on recruiting. I have 2 sons with 1 year olds that hold 3M shares and think they went to heaven entering this company at such an early stage of development. They are prepared to lose it all as this is the pinkies..but have every reason to believe that VOIS will deliver.. and their lives and their childrens lives will forever be financially impacted to the upside and the choices that they made in 2014 was a stroke of genius...as grandpa grins in the corner.
YES!! without a doubt. sub penny stock going to the moon? I believe and you do as well... that is all that matters given the risk that we all take...we will win on this one (IMO) if you can withstand the pain of constantly being hammered by the shorts "that it won't".
Know what you own and then review again why you made the decision to purchase VOIS. Any questions???
and you know that for a fact or are we just hoping?....(hoping with you...but hoping)