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Funny thing about new technology. It makes it almost impossible to steal or hide anything. With Cameras all over the deck and on divers masks. It makes it almost impossible to get away with stealing anything today.
I'm sure that with KK, having an ex FBI agent working for SFRX, that one thing the company will not have to worry about is someone getting away with stealing treasure.
beninsac, I can't speak for the owner of SFRX. However, I do know that whatever treasure is recovered by other public companies, belongs to the company. Not the shareholders. The shareholders make or lose money on the stock. They are not entitled to any of the treasure that is recovered unless they buy it.
bucc, If I lived or worked any where near the coast of FL between Ft. Pierce and Cape Canaveral. I would locate it for you. When in FL, I work out of Key West. Which if you don't know, is probably around 300 miles away from what you are looking for.
Right now I am in Pennsylvania having pre-admission tests to go in the Hospital within the next 10 days for Surgery.
The Best I can do is point you in the right direction. Good Luck.
NOD, It is also my opinion that SFRX is getting close to finding the actual wreck site.
When SFRX found the ballast stones. Was there a large pile of them in one spot? Or was there a scattering of stones in a scatter trail, as if the ship turned turtle was being pushed along by the winds of a Hurricane?
NOD, Thanks for that information. I'm impressed. It sounds to me like SFRX is finding pieces of a Spanish Wreck that has some artifacts that came from Mexico. If I remember correctly the Jade that was found, possibly came from Central America and it was actual Jade pieces and not a composite of cannon balls.
Sounds to me like Juno may have some potential and artifacts were found that eluded the previous salvage companies.
Like I said before, I'm no expert. But, a guy with more then one Military Parachute Badge from two different Countries and Multiple Diving Certifications, is no dummy either.
bucc, I think your best bet to find out what Marina the iron maiden is docked at is to call the SFRX office and ask them. I've found KK to be forthcoming about any questions that share holders have.
Raider, If you had read all of my posts on the Juno, you would have seen that I never said, that it was or wasn't a Galleon.
On the other hand. There has been verifiable evidence that it is probably a Spanish wreck.
Bridge Jumper, I saw the History Channel series on Oak Island. It did not appear to me to be the same Equipment. ( There are many good companies in Germany that make varies metal detectors. )
DR EVIL, I am going to point this fact out for those that are not familiar with a magnetometer.
A mag will detect Ferrous Metal, but it will not detect Non Ferrous Metal, such as Silver or a Bronze Cannon. The Technology I mentioned in the other post will not only detect both Metals, but it will tell you what type of metal it is.
Dr. Evil, Since you were in this business. You know who Kim Fisher is. The Best way to find out what the Fisher's are using is to call them.
From what I understand the Fisher's have acquired some new technology that is a towed pulse induction unit and it detects ferrous and non ferrous metal beneath the sand over a large area.
They have also acquired an AUV that has some new technology, sub bottom profiler, side scan sonar and metal detection technology.
The ROV industry has attachments for ROV's, that detect ferrous and non ferrous objects buried under about 15 feet of sediment, sonar, sub bottom profiler and some other goodies. I am sure a phone call to any large ROV company in La. or Europe would tell you exactly what this new technology is,and you could research it.
A Company in Germany has a unit that came out that is a pulse induction unit with coils up to 8 ft, that will detect ferrous and non ferrous metal. It will tell you what type of metal is being detected and it will detect a cannon from a 40 foot distance.
You're excuse, The other companies didn't find any Jade. Did They??
Did the other companies find any cannon balls or the cannons that surely went with them??
If I remember correctly. Bob Marx made a big deal out of the Jade that he said, he found on a wreck in Indonesia. So I'm guessing based on Marx's comments that Jade is valuable.
Don't they have to buy before they sell???
Any news on what they might be finding at Juno??? I find it interesting that they are finding ballast stones and other artifacts that the companies before them missed.
I guess those other companies were looking in the wrong spot.
SSD, In my opinion. You are correct. There is enough DD on SFRX for smart shareholders to conclude that SFRX is headed in the right direction and that site #3 is a Home Run. It will make International News once the permit is approved and artifacts start reaching the Deck.
Really? What are they?
Surely you Jest ?
SG, The CEO is available to talk to anyone about SFRX. If you feel that strongly about a PR. You should call him and discuss it.
gr8upside, I have to laugh about all the negative posts about no PR's.
PR's cost money, they cost shares for promotion. SFRX has a good business plan in my opinion.
SFRX has been diving all winter, weather permitting. No other Treasure salvage company has been diving all winter.
If someone has a question they should call the CEO.
lindy, You were spot on with your first assessment, lol. I think SFRX is working their butt off trying to find treasure. I think that site #3 is a home run. As long as the permit is approved by June, I'm not worried about it not being here already. Although it would make the stock price go up quicker.
Then again. What do I know? I'm not expert and I tell everyone that I am a grumpy, mean old man.
GTG,Wonder of wonders. Another Historical Expert, talks about a Billion Dollar 1715 wreck. I personally, would tend to put more credence in what an EXPERT has to say about a 1715 Wreck, then what an anonymous poster on a message has to say.
Didn't the SFRX experts say that site #3 could hold a billion dollars????
SG, You didn't have to write that Odyssey is a shallow or deep water salvage company. For anyone that doesn't know. 99% of salvage companies are shallow water salvage. Odyssey is one of few Deep Water Treasure salvage companies.
You want to compare Treasure salvage companies? People need to know the difference. SFRX is a shallow water treasure hunting company and they are equipped better then most of the other companies. So that would not be a reason to turn down a FL salvage permit.
SG, That's BullShit. Odyssey doesn't do shallow water wrecks and if you ever saw some of the out fits that do salvage work and have permits?? SFRX is bigger then most of them.
Yes, it would appear to be Bullshit.
GTG, I find that incredible. You mean Oculus doesn't list that other Treasure Salvage Company getting their permit??? I thought someone insinuated that Oculus listed every permit that was currently listed?
I guess Oculus is just another red tape Government Program that isn't up to date. Maybe Oculus will list SFRX has having a permit for site #3, AFTER SFRX has spent a year or two actually recovering Treasure from site #3.
SG, All of this is old news. This happened almost 4 years ago. It had to do with ARS looking for funding for their project in the DR. The Co. in the DR changed their name and they are doing very well. I spoke with Bobby P. just last week. I also own stock in that Co.
Just because SFRX and ARS didn't come to terms, means nothing in my opinion. It happens all the time. I'd be more interested in hearing any news about the permit for site #3.
FT, I know some of those people. I've spoken with some of the people that dove on site #3. They believe in that site and I respect their opinion.
I also know hard and expensive it is to work a wreck site. So I have no problem with KK burning thru those shares to make this work.
Buc, Do you really want to do some DD to find out about SFRX and site #3??
I'll tell you where to find it from treasure salvors that are not bias towards SFRX.
I believe that site #3 is a home run. I also believe that the application for site #3 has been applied for by KK and has not been turned down or approved as of Today.
I personally do not think SFRX is a pump and dump. Pump and Dump CEO's take a salary and usually it isn't a small salary. KK does not take a salary. Treasure Wrecks are HARD TO FIND. X does not Mark the spot on a map of a Treasure Wreck. Money has to spent locating them and diving.
( Read shares of stock sold to pay for those expenses. )
If you really want to do some DD on SFRX and site #3 ??? Go to the annual Treasure Salvor's Picnic on April 26th. It is open everyone. I would be willing to bet that you might even find someone to found site #3 at the picnic. A lot of the Divers at the picnic have been doing this type of work for many, many years. They will be happy to answer your questions about SFRX and any other company you ask about. There will probably be some archeologists there too.
The sixth annual treasure hunters cookout will be held on april 26th at the Pennwood motorlodge in Wabasso florida. if you want a room they are giving anyone attending the cookout a discounted rate. you will need to act fast, in the past all rooms are sold out within about a week! The phone number for the Pennwood is (866)-742-9240 or (772)-589-3855, ask for Virginia and tell her you’re with the Treasure Hunters group so you can get the discount.
sctts, Since the crew recovered cannon balls from the 1500's. I doubt that what ever ship they came from, that the crew was going to throw them by hand. Which means two things to me.
#1, SFRX will also probably find cannons in the area.
#2. The other companies that worked the area, apparently didn't do a very good job. They missed the ballast stones and cannon balls. It will be interesting to see what else SFRX finds at the site.
buc, I suggest that you do some proper research. The link you posted is about a completely different wreck off Juno Beach. It has nothing to do with SFRX and never did. It is not even in the same permitted area.
Wrong dj ponder, The Division has everything to do with DR Government.Proper DD would have shown that. The DR Government makes the rules in the DR. Not DPBE. Now that's a FACT.
Yes more misrepresentations!!!! But those false rumors are made when people don't do proper DD with the DR Government. Has nothing to do with what DPBE states.
How old is that survey??? A current survey may have new results.
No misrepresentations !!!! There has not been a Division because one of the Ministers in the DR is holding up EVERY Treasure salvage companies Division. Proper DD would have uncovered that FACT for anyone willing to do the DD. That puts that false rumor to bed.
DPBE can't assume blame for something the DR Government has Total control over,
Yes, there is a huge bid in for the second day. You will also Notice that the stock price hasn't risen because someone is also dumping.
In my opinion this stock isn't worth the paper it is on and I say that because ORRV has nothing since it was sold to the current CEO, except to get involved in what turned out to be an emerald shipwreck scam, according to the Federal Court in Key West.
I personally don't think ORRV is going to go any where until there is a change of ownership.
Just my personal opinion
trueblue, Maybe someone is trying to buy up all the shares to take over ORRV.
I do know that Scott Heimdal, CEO of ORRV is being sued for the attorney fee's for the emerald trial, along with others. In closing arguments of that Trial in January, Jay's attorney admitted that the emerald find was a fraud.
Scott H. CEO of ORRV is being sued for over a million dollars in attorney fee's, along with Jay's partner in the Fraud, Steve Elchlepp Jr. Jay's Brother who is cooperating with the FBI. Jay's attorney Bruce Silverstein, Paul Sullivan,Peter Tobia, along with others.
Just my personal opinion
I believe you. That stone cannon balls were found. I'm the kind of guy that wishes everyone success in this business. Like I said, I can't wait to see what comes up from the Juno site. I think SFRX may be onto something Historic.
Line1, First of all. If the cannon balls are stone? Then I would think that you have an old wreck from the 1500's. If the wreck is Spanish? It would be on its way back to Spain and would be carrying more Gold then wrecks from the 1600 or 1700's.
( I say it would be on its way back to Spain because Spanish Ships took a different route to the new world and would not be sunk half way up the coast of Florida, if they were in route to the new world. )
In my opinion if stone cannon balls were recovered? This could be a very interesting wreck.
Funny you should ask about a deep water wreck.
It has been mentioned that SFRX found a ballast pile in 70 to 80 feet of water. Apparently this has been verified by SFRX's archeologist as well as a crew member who gave at least one of the ballast stones to an investor.
SFRX may also have to deal with a current that covers and uncovers the wreck site. That could be one reason that no one else has ever found the wreck site. ( Because it is buried under the sand.) I think for certain. Gold or silver would be buried under the sand on the wreck site.
As one poster likes to say I am a wannabe treasure hunter. I can tell you from experience on a deep water wreck in which I am on the Admiralty Claim. The current covers and uncovers the wreckage depending on the time of year. I have pictures of objects that are mostly uncovered during certain months of the year and other months? Only part of these masts are uncovered. There are certain areas where the sand appears to be over 4 feet deep and other areas where the hard pan appears to be only a foot or so under the sand. I've also seen holes several feet deep, with timbers running several feet under the top of the .
Ballast stones??? I would like to know if the site that SFRX has with the ballast stones. Has the ballast stones sitting several feet above the sand or are most of them under the sand? That might give me an idea of how deep the sand is at certain portions of the wreck.
Below is what can be found in deep water on a wreck site. But then again. What do I know? Some people call me a wannabe treasure salvor.