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If I can post it, I surely will.
If you think it's funny losing money on a daily basis...
If you think the clownshow that "runs" BDGR is funny...
If you think you are witty and not just a capricious little Napoleon ...
...I guess ratings would be high for you.
Me, I'd rather read a book.
And I'd rather do something about these problems instead of take your word for anything.
And I am...
IMHO this looks like a scam.
No PRs
No news on these "lease options".
Someone is probably shorting the living begeezus out of this.
Sorry I bought in. I wonder if others got sucked too?
Yeah, let's all sit back and trust Tbird's opinion.
While all this kissy kissy talk is going on, here is a reality check for everyone:
BDGR: .044 and falling...
Until I find out what is going on, I will be raising as much turbulence as I can.
There you go again assuming you know more than I do. Do you think I sit around not doing any digging? The share count was not a surprise to me.
And though you think you may know all the ways I get my information, I assure you, you only know what we have discussed.
Now who's name calling and throwing insults?
Again, you fit right into your pattern of arrogance and selfishness.
But that aside, are you basically taking the position that we should blindly trust Mike Ellis and not have any idea what he is up to?
Are you actually trying to say that the reason Lou was shut down, was because Ellis really thought he was a Lanza crony?
Am I supposed to take the word of a company that has, in effect , lied to me since the day I bought my first share?
Is that what you expect I should do quietly? Maybe you should should take a remedial course in common sense.
Or, maybe you have information that you choose not to share. Of course, said information should be publicly verifiable. So you not posting anything here goes back to being selfish and capricious.
Why should I believe that the silence of BDGR has any positive connotation? How do I know that, while I sit here waiting for news without any information, and based on the past lies which you so diligently posted here over and over and over again, that they are not dismantling the company, about to declare bankruptcy and dissolve our shares?
And if I believe such things, then what is to stop me from requesting that the SEC look into this entire operation if I think my money is as good as gone? Isn't that my right as a share holder? Didn't you more or less say the same thing 6 months ago?
All I know is that, according to our BDGR President, OUR share holder representative was frozen out of the loop and there is no information forthcoming. Rumors are flying around, and every day we lose just a little bit more value to our stock.
A competent President would address the share holders but we are treated with the same arrogance that you display.
And you want to sit there and tell me that I'm ill informed and that it makes sense what Ellis is doing. That is a complete self serving load of crap.
I can think of any number of scenarios that equal massive screw-over for the share holders.
Lanza won't truly be gone until his service companies are GONE from BDGR. That is where all the money has been funneled this whole time.
Your buddy Barry M. said himself that nothing and no one can be trusted at the Dragon. What has changed?
You can't even answer that question.
Nicely stated.
I've got my stick and I have only just begun to poke.
Hey Tbird,
When you did your "due diligence" that you claim to be so good at, did you come across this information about your precious ATVE?
http://www.browardpalmbeach.com/2007-08-30/news/lab-rats/1
.046 and falling.
Where's your Ellis now?
That's exactly what I was expecting from you.
Wrong on many accounts including how out of the loop you think I am.
Withholding knowledge as usual.
Many of your predictions have not come to pass.
How many times were you sure Lanza was gone?
How completely off are you/were you about Lou?
Even if you did post any of your so called "facts" here, I would seriously doubt them.
Your credibility is shot.
And as for why people labeled you a basher and a pumper, all one has to do is to look at your posts. When you were angry, you didn't care how much damage you did to the stock. You just wanted to bring up the past to make yourself feel better.
Now you sit with a Cheshire cat grin on your face. Quite frankly, if you are right, I will benefit.
But is shows a lack of character, a large dash of selfishness, and a definite short sightedness on your part.
A guy like you is a definite fair weather friend. Funny how when you thought Lou betrayed you, you got all bent out of shape. You have betrayed all the share holders here.
That makes you, most of all, a hypocrite.
Ok, magnanimous one.
Post your "facts" here.
I am waiting.
Or would you rather name call and then claim that you don't. You want to try to drag my name through the mud like you did to Lou?
With a friend like you, I would wear armor on my back 24/7
You have a huge ego. And it gets bruised when people challenge you. Always have to have the last word.
So here, just come out with it, Mr. Insider:
Tell us what you know. Or are you just selectively magnanimous when it suits your purpose?
I mean, we are all share holders here, presumably not shorting the stock, right? Doesn't that put us on the same side? Or do only a few of us deserve to be given the ubiquitous knowledge that you hold close and flash like a cheap gold chain?
I would LOVE for you to lay out how I am in the wrong about my perceptions here. I welcome it. Seriously! I will be the first to admit any misunderstanding.
Go for it!
We'll see.
I have lost all respect for you long ago.
For my sake, I hope you are right. I hope you are more right than your predictions about ATVE.
Funny how you call my questions complaining. Why, because I want to know what is going on and I don't trust anyone at BDGR?
Are you sure that you are not putting on rose colored glasses and seeing what you want to see? Isn't that what you did with Barry?
If you could get over your own ego for one second, you might see a bit clearer. But we both know that is your Achilles heel. If you are such a clairvoyant and have all the facts, why don't you share them with us? Why aren't you independently wealthy? And if you are, why are you bothering with a mess like BDGR?
Soso, don't listen to that a$$hat.
Dragonman is an idiot and he sits in his Barcalounger spitting out his pidgeon English and extolling the virtues of Barry M.
In general, he is clueless. He is right about the corruption at the Dragon but anyone can see that. Basically, he is a moron and proves it in every post.
Lou is our man, but appears to have been cast out of the inner circle. That in itself should tell you that he is a good guy. The fact that Lou has his hands tied should tell you that your current BDGR management could give two pieces of anything about you or any other share holder.
It is time for a share holder revolt. We need answers and we are going to get them the easy way or the hard way.
I will not sit back here and be robbed by these people. This is why I want everyone to call Mike Ellis and have him explain himself to each and every one of you.
I will not take his word, or Lanza's word, or any Lanza lapdog's word, or any BS PR.
I want to know why internal controls are not being implemented.
I want to know when the audit is going to come out.
I want to know if we are trying to sell the company.
I want to know when we are going to dump Lanza's service companies and put up servicing for competative bid.
I want to know why our share holder representative can't get any answers.
If I don't get those answers in a timely fashion, then I will have to assume the worst and act accordingly.
Tbird,
Right now, you couldn't be more incorrect with your humble opinion. Your opinion here amounts to your opinion about ATVE.
You might want to call Ellis yourself and ask him why he has appeared to shut ALL SHARE HOLDERS out of the loop and why he and Lanza now appear to be kissing cousins. The only people he has apparently shut out are you and me and all other share holders.
Also, if you look at the vastly reduced board, you will notice that they are all Lanza cronies.
All of this is just my humble opinion.
Wait, let's run with this.
I put more money than I want to admit into BDGR buying into the same lies you did, and I have been here all this time advocating Lanza's removal, just to gain your confidence.
In reality I think a policy of no news, total confusion of internal management and misrepresentation on behalf of BDGR will actually get us all to believe what they say via reverse reverse reverse reverse psychology.
Next my master plan as a Joe hood was to confuse all of Wallstreet thus tricking them into buying stock in BDGR.
The alternative would have been to clean house, get a bridge loan, actually pump oil, do deep exploration for larger wells and shop the company to a high bidder, make money off the deal and not have committed any crimes.
Obviously, I support the first convoluted choice and have sat on my arse just like you doing nothing.
You have it all figured out Dragonman. My respect for your razor sharp intellect has just expanded in a new direction!
Congratulations!
Ok, put down the crack pipe guy.
Dragonman, did you call Ellis?
I didn't think so.
Mike Ellis is the chief engineer and interim President of BDGR. If you are a share holder then you want to call him and find out what is currently going on.
478.405.2680
That goes for you too soso. I think, assuming that you are a legitimate share holder, you might ask what is going on to the president of BDGR. This also happens to be the guy who issued the last PR that you had questions about.
If either of you contact him, then please post his responses here.
Hey Plaintif,
Are you a share holder or just guy who likes to play in the sand and pull "facts" out of his arse?
You are cluttering up this board with your uninformed drivel.
We could speculate all day long on valuations but holding court with Dragonman is going nowhere and not making you any friends here.
How about moving on. Nothing to see here and no one cares what you think.
If you want to do something relevant, call Mike Ellis and post his responses here.
478.405.2680
There it is. Mike Ellis. Now anyone can call him and ask what's up.
Maybe Dragonman, you would be so kind as to share what he tells you. Anyone else is welcome to call as well.
Thanks Mars!
Lou do you have any contact information for Ellis?
"I ask M ELLIS to give us update ,the JL updates are worthless,i think that he will update us
GOOD LUCK"
Hi Oil Export,
Did you get a reply from Ellis?
Why don't you call Ellis and ask him, Dragonman. While you are at it, maybe you can ask him what he's up to these days.
Seriously, no joke and no malice. Let us know.
canard...
You must be desperate to enlist the aid of Dragonman to make your point.
Speaking of canards, why don't you come clean about your motives?
The OMDA lawsuit at best, represents 5% of wells from BDGR. Those wells from what I understand are pretty lousy properties to begin with.
Secondly, although Barnett claims that he wants somewhere in the neighborhood of $20 million dollars, he would do better spilling coffee on himself at a McDonalds to collect.
Thirdly, if there were 20 million in revenue on any of the BDGR properties that could be proven, it certainly has not been proven to us, the shareholders.
However, we have seen your Barnett dilute your stock on the promise of some great victory that just isn't going to happen.
BDGR was added to the suit only last year. As such, it will be difficult to prove BDGR has any financial responsibility.
If you get a judgement against Lanza, that will affect him and ONLY him as he is no longer officially associated with Black Dragon. We have been through this many times but the shorters used the lawsuit to sow doubt and fear. And now pissants like you want to come here and cause trouble because you lost all your money to Barnett.
Interestingly enough, my comments on the OMDA board were recently deleted. All I spoke was the truth. No attacks. No incitement, and magically it disappeared. Did you have anything to do with that jmap? You guys are a joke and you deserve what you get for not going after your own albatross.
Over here, things are in upheaval, but we are at least trying to straighten things out for the honest shareholders.
And "Johnny come lately's" that have been showing up here spouting your junk, if you don't know what you are talking about then go back into your holes.
"but i'm just a guy talking to himself on the bdgr message board."
You know what they say:
You can talk to yourself as much as you want. It's when you start answering yourself that you have a problem...
They also say: You can buy as much BDGR as you want. It's when you try to sell it that you run into a problem!
Here's hoping for change!
OIL= $74.25 per barrel. Up a buck since earlier this WEEK.
If BDGR ever went to $73.24/share I'm pretty sure I could hire a Russian rocket ride up to the International Space Station for a few people. Put 'em on a space walk and "accidentally" cut the tether.
I could also afford "a mansion and a yacht." ;)
OIL= $73.24 per barrel
"...except for a shareholder petition, it would take a legal remedy.... or a win-win situation, where Lanza, as a BDGR shareholder, would benefit from a higher bdgr share price"
Why?
Lanza out of Dragon means we can put up to bid or renegotiate the service contracts any time. Where do we have to have a "win-win" for Lanza?
It's going to get very interesting from here if you figure that many have wanted Lanza out on many levels.
Is our battle over? No, not by a long shot.
Like I said, now you are catching on. Seriously, good for you.
For some around here, they feel it necessary to criticize those of us working the issue.
Recognizing the issues and how to handle them is much less sexy but much more important than being an armchair quarterback.
I recommend that you contact Lou since he is your representative on the BDGR board.
"...Rather I expect a sale of BD's assets sometime before the audit is due end of September. I just don't believe we will ever see an audit."
Who do you think would be interested in aquiring BDGR?
"If BD goes for .25, I will be happy --- or happier --- with my losses."
Are you in higher than .25? A lot of people here are close to or over a buck. If there was an offer, I would hope it would be much higher than .25.
Go back to Adam Barnett. Or did you have a lover's spat?
You come here every month or so spouting the same gibberish.
You think soso is going to have your back now?
Dude, we know about the problems of BDGR. One of them was just kicked out.
Assets exist for the Dragon, or are you trying to say that OMDA is chasing ghosts?
We all know that you are an OMDA pumper. Probably losing your shirt in their stock right now. How many shares diluted now? Almost 3 billion and counting?
Go ahead and short BDGR if you think it's a total scam. I invite you to. Pick up some tomorrow. And that goes for any other OMDA's out there.
Please, I am asking you politely to short BDGR.
Now you are catching on!
Someone dumped a million shares at the end of the day. I wonder who could possibly have done that?
Likwit, if you don't mind me asking, what is the neighborhood of your share count? Have you ever called Lou? Now might be a good time.
Let me ask you this eezzee:
Do you think it is possible to unravel Lanza's service companies from BDGR? Why or why not?
"Pay no attention to my post. I have only been drilling, completing and producing wells in North Louisiana for the past 30 years and I am currently drilling 15,000' MD horizontal wells"
But yet you find your way here. At this very moment in Black Dragon time.
Is that you Local?
Man, you guys are unreal.
Well first off, if you were in the loop at all, you would know that Charts is about as far the polar opposite of Lanza and would never have anything to do with that bunch.
Or maybe you are in the loop and attempting to discredit Charts.
Keep shorting, day trader. See how that works out for you.
"This new poster lives in close proximity to the Lanza's and I would encourage his ability to be our ears and eyes. Give this man some encouragement, especially as it was his first post on this board."
With all that has been going on over the last YEAR, why would ANYONE make an assumption such as that? Either you are totally out of the loop or purposefully pretending to be out of the loop of common knowledge here.
Yeah Caddo,
Thanks for popping into existence today and telling us what we already know. And also it's good that you cleared up that if BDGR drills more shallow wells in the chalklands that they will produce the same as other wells.
Hmmmn, realy? In fact, that is all we have been talking about for the last 9 months around here- let's do more of the same!
Thanks also for helping flush out the shorts like LGL8054 and yourself.
You've got nothing to worry about.
PPS will keep going down don't worry.
Short more.
Samurai deployed!