is leveraging all of Canada's mining industry, lol!
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"Boris, jig is up, they are sending moose and squirrel in the morning. Natasha"
you ain't just a-whistlin' dixie my friend.
With the Supreme Court's recent ruling, this election year just turned into what's gonna be the biggest hoot in many a day IMO.
Prepare now for the games to begin, as both parties begin to openly court big corporate money, lol, and after bashing them for the last two years too. What a racket.
Because the "voices" told you to?
[good work cicimici, now buy some more, always buy at the ask precious, do it now]
We won't lose as long as we keep on fighting IMO and IMO only, but I believe it does harm to try to spin a negative development into either a meaningless one or worse yet, to try to claim it's somehow positive.
The ruling supporting the FDIC's objection, was a blow to our case, and the delay okayed at the last hearing, heaped insult upon that injury.
The judge is a judge, she is NOT on our side, she's not SUPPOSED to be on ANYBODY'S side. And trying to imply that somehow all her rulings (or lack of them), are designed with some big game plan in mind that benefits us as shareholders, is ridiculous in the extreme. Some people just absolutely get uncontrollably bent out of shape if they see anything negative in print about their stock, and have a tendency to go to war over it, which just does MORE harm.
The true battle, is in front of us. The ONLY people on our side, are each of us shareholders, the EC and the EC lawyers. The judge is NOT on our side. WMI is NOT on our side. The FDIC, despite the fact that WE THE PEOPLE ARE THEIR EMPLOYERS, are NOT on our side. THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES JUST SAID DIMON AND BLANKFEIN "DESERVED" ALL THE MILLIONS THEY MAKE (off of us).
Everyone that is NOT on our side, we must constantly eye with scrutiny of the clearest sort, not trying to spin what they may do as being positive when it's not. Not praising a judge in some silly act of imagined appeasement, when they have ruled against us.
We will win if we refuse to settle for anything less than absolute truth, no matter how long it takes, or how unpopular we get for demanding it.
Do NOT go gentle into that good night...
RAGE.
I told you guys they made nice in that meeting the other day, they were at it tooth and nail prior to that. And while they were crossways, we got expanded publicity, a DOJ investigation started, and the UST intervening in our case citing "exigent" circumstances.
After the meeting, Dimon goes out and backs down on the Sempra deal after days of flipping regulators the bird over it, and all of a sudden we got NO subpoena power over the FDIC anymore, and another full MONTH of delay on SJ just for the FDIC's asking and their convenience.
And don't anyone bother trying to tell me that it's "just giving them a chance to respond voluntarily", the FDIC ARE THE ONES WHO OBJECTED TO THE MOTION AND GOT IT THROWN OUT, why would they give up ANYTHING now?
I call shenanigans, on Dimon, on BO, and on the FDIC and the entire government apparatus.
Sure seems like in this day and age of instantaneous information and access via the internet, that having a congress/government/president etc., is obsolete. A system could be easily set up, whereby people could vote themselves, on laws (like we need more of those, sheesh), and public policy matters etc. Eliminate 90% of the corrupt bloated gasbag of doom that floats over the head of the American taxpayer, sucking the life out of us slowly, and enslaving us to a mountain of future debt we can never repay.
*EDIT*
And not to put too fine of a point on it, but to see the WHOLE truth, you have to expand your focus, so here's another BIG HONKING IN-YER-FACE clue:
Anybody else notice, that the Supreme Court just overturned some campaign finance laws?
And that NOW, there is basically NO RESTRICTIONS ON HOW MUCH MONEY CORPORATIONS MAY DONATE TO POLITICAL CAMPAIGNS? CORPORATIONS LIKE JPM HEADED BY JAMIE DIMON, A LIFELONG DEMOCRAT?
HINT HINT HINT FREAKING OMG WAKEUP HINT HINT!
yes, but the voices are back aren't they?
[buy some more wamu cicimici...you know you want to...buy at the ask....do it now precious...]
Hang in there Taxman, don't watch the ticks, gonna be a drag until the next hearing. In the meantime, keep fighting, it WILL help and you'll feel good about it. Write your Congressional reps, send them Wamu info and your opinions, ask them for justice, ask them why Sheila Bair is STILL FDIC chair after dang near wiping the U.S. economy out and destroying trillions of dollars of American taxpayers/voters money.
GLTU!
No Doubt brother, pretty danged casual, the way a ruling got delayed yet ANOTHER month, just to placate the FDIC. What is it now, like 21 law firms, 100 lawyers for WMI/EC/Creditors? And ONE SHYSTER asks for another friggin' month of delay and OH YEAH SURE BUDDY, YOU GOT IT, WHATEVER YOU WANT BECAUSE ASAP MEANS BIG $$$$$$$$$$$$$ IN BILLABLE HOURS AND THAT'S THE PRIME PURPOSE HERE AIN'T IT?
Justice delayed, is justice denied.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RICO (some light reading to pass the time!)
I think they capped comments at 40...I tried commenting twice and mine never made it for some reason...perhaps it was all the cussing?
Then justice must be blind, because I dang sure see a need for it... big, honking, rotating(spinning),flashing, redacting, make-no-mistake-someone-is-guilty-here-so-lets-have-those-documents, no-way-is-FDIC-in-any-imaginable-reality-not-a-HUGE-party-to-whatever-the-f**k-went-on-here need for it.
FYI the Ohio AG and the Connecticut AG are both in on the investigation into Moody's as well as the DOJ, add Goldman and you have the RICO trifecta.
Moody's incidentally, is very noticeably making noise today, threatening the U.S.'s AAA credit rating...a reaction to the investigation?
Gonna threaten the entire country's credit rating are ya Moody's?
No wonder Warren Buffett is dumping MCO as fast as he can sell...bear raid in t-minus 4...3...2...
So here's today's LESSON!:
We made another large media outlet, and right on the front page for a while, we also got links to actual posts on Yahoo and one to some post made here on I-hub by an egomaniac that already had a big enough head, lol, but the point is: THE MEDIA READS MESSAGE BOARDS!
Never doubt, that in this day and age of instant info and access on the internet, that one motivated person, can have an impact! Look at what Wamuqd has done on Youtube for an example, search the internet for your handle if you post a lot, and look at how many places it is re-posted, I have found my own posts in the U.S., Canada, Mexico, Brazil, Spain, Germany, France and the U.K.
KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK I-HUB WAMUER'S, DON'T STOP POSTING, DON'T STOP FIGHTING, WE ARE NOW FINALLY HITTING THE SCOREBOARD!! KEEP WRITING YOUR CONGRESSMEN AND STATE REPS, SEND THEM INFO, MAKE THEM REPLY, ASK YOUR STATE WHY IT DOES BUSINESS WITH JPM IF IT DOES SO. DEMAND JUSTICE, DEMAND THOSE REDACTED FDIC DOCUMENTS, DEMAND FULL TRANSPARENCY AND DISCLOSURE FROM THE FDIC! DEMAND THAT ALL OF BAIR'S DOCUMENTS, CALLS, AND E-MAILS BE SUBPOENA'ED!
TEXANS, ask your state reps and our governor, why Texas continues to do HUGE business with JPM, and meanwhile let Guaranty Bank, a Texas-based bank right out of the capitol Austin, fail, and get bought out by BBVA, a FOREIGN BANK headquartered in Spain.
Are you saying that because you believe that it must never happen in America?
http://warofillusions.wordpress.com/2009/02/04/two-judges-took-bribes-to-send-children-to-privately-owned-juvenile-detention-facilities/
Or that it's your personal assessment of the judge you mentioned? And if so, is that your opinion only or do you have some firsthand experience to share?
A google search of "crooked judges" gives over 9 million results...
We are already looking at a general concensus amongst 1000's of Wamu shareholders etc., that at least one very prominent government official, Sheila Bair, is guilty in this affair, with perhaps more to come. At this point, I trust no one but the members of the EC and the EC lawyers.
Judges are just people, they are not above question.
Word.
And they're not the only ones, somebody is currently covering the FDIC's dirty little @$$ too.
Agreed about PPS, sucks, kudos for saying what I imagine a lot of us were thinking Fish.
Great job MCZ! Blowout quarter, wow, just didn't see that coming in this current economy, very impressive!
Signed order extending the date for a Chap. 11 re-org plan.
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229100209000000000007.pdf
You are correct.
It is a Government-owned Corporation. That SHOULD imply ownership of the people, by the people, and FOR the people, if ya know what I mean.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Federal_Deposit_Insurance_Corporation
They are NOT independent, and it's officers and chairman are chosen by the President, with the approval of the Senate. It was created by the Glass-Steagall act of 1933 to help PROTECT people, and ALSO to protect BANKS... to protect banks from what you say?
From the very runs HER actions, and JPM, and Goldman-Sachs, AND Moody's CAUSED, because those are the KINDS OF MAJOR SCREWUPS/WILLFUL ACTS OF DESTRUCTION THAT DESTROY BANKS AND THEIR SHAREHOLDERS AND THEIR CREDITORS AND INDIVIDUALS WITH DEPOSITS AND OUTSTANDING LOANS AT THE AFOREMENTIONED BANK!
Agreed, let's keep up the full-court press here! But JMHO, we ESPECIALLY need to keep up demands for info from the FDIC, the court, needs to hear that the court of "public opinion", is NOT going to stand for letting the FDIC get a pass here. NO WAY they are going to cooperate unless they are forced, and they are a GOVERNMENT agency that has NO RIGHT to keep the documentation of what they've done, hidden from WE THE PEOPLE WHO HAPPEN TO BE THEIR EMPLOYERS.
We need to stay on this, pressure must be applied wherever possible, what is Sheila Bair hiding that she desperately doesn't want us to see?
Moody's needs to NOT fall off the list of possible defendants either, ongoing Justice Department investigation there too, they may be liable for BILLIONS in this case as well.
The Judge needs to look at the evidence, the FDIC has already shown, that they will not willingly produce the requested evidence, THAT alone, IMO, could be construed as evidence of potential wrongdoing.
Agreed on the large media outlet, really really good to see after everyone's hard work all this time.
Celebrity? LOL! Nah, not me, but i'll give ya a hundred autographs if'n you can get me one from Lindi ol' buddy/pal o mine!
LOL! It's because i'm "fair and balanced"! Haha!
GOOOOOOO WAMUUUUUUUUUU!
With the HUGE NSS position here, I really hope FH listens to reason, and changes the Cusip and ticker, personally, i'm all for an R/S too, hang out on the sideline and wait for it, then join the MOASS as the shorts get burned from what they THOUGHT was a dead stock that nobody cared about, lulling them into the false sense of security that convinced them they wouldn't ever have to cover.
Seen at least two dozen instances of it this year, guys losing millions when that margin call/demand to deliver came through outta nowhere, OMG, LOVE to be a fly on the wall when that happens here!
MIKP-finally upticking after 3 days on the floor?
So she gave the FDIC what they wanted?
wow. that almost never happens.
~yawn~.
Dear Judge Sleet,
HELP!
Maybe, maybe not, might want to ask ol Bernie Madoff about that, you'll find him in the prison hospital at the moment from what I hear, lol.
What did I tell you and JW at 45.00? I said SHORT JPIG NOW! lol!
Just broke 38.00, headed to 31.00. Dimon headed to cellblock 5 IMO.
TIMMBEEEEERRRRRRRRRRRRRR!
And the house that Morgan built comes tumbling down all around Dimon, and his shareholders suffer, he collects millions in paychecks. Nice guy. Didn't he say that shareholders should bear the burden of failed banks? I wonder if JPM shareholders feel the same way?
That's not necessarily true at all. Could have been Clarke for the FDIC that asked for a continuance.
Ummm, you're welcome I guess, though you should actually be thanking someone who sold to you at that price, I sold all of mine above .24 the other day when I realized this was going to happen. And to the guy who bought mine at that price, i'm truly sorry man, please forgive me.
Wow. Someone was actually listening after all. Thank you Hammer.
Good thing this is the short month of the year, only 27 days to go until Walrath's next opportunity to put off making a ruling again.
Wow, lotsa the white stuff, would it be evil of me to publicly wish for that pettifogger to HAVE to travel in it? lol.
That's EXACTLY what needs to happen Uzual, and EVERY article. The pace needs to be stepped up, not let off at this point, these delays are BS, someone is hoping that a little time will allow the furor to die down, so they can get on quietly with the business of screwing the little guys again. The opposite needs to happen, this needs to be blown up in their face, and the delays exposed for what they are.
So much for "slapping down the FDIC" today. Again, no decision, no ruling, no action, more delays. Another non-event. Nice pumping yesterday, I guess the "great" judge just couldn't hear it.
And yet the money just flows and flows out of WMI's and taxpayers hands, and into lawyers and judges pockets.
~yawn~
http://www.kccllc.net/documents/0812229/0812229100204000000000002.pdf
I pray that it is so my friend.
But all stock issues aside, i'm here to serve notice, that there are those of us, who are watching with more than just an eye for where our investments might go, and will NOT remain silent, who will in fact, raise nineteen different kinds of hell if there is not justice done.
If you say so Ramirez. I'll PM you during "happy hour" tomorrow regarding earlier, I don't have a paid account or I would have already done so.
I believe the U.S. Trustee pointed out, that she didn't even have the power to deny the EC formation, unless she had solid proof that the UST had acted in some way fraudulently in asking for it, is that not so? So i'm not that impressed with a quick gavel bang there. And she let the FDIC off the hook, at least temporarily, and IMO they are the most guilty party in America right now, they caused 1000 times the damage Madoff did.
Dude, look up above your post, no more than an inch away.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=46209214
No not at all, a favorable ruling and the general uptrend should continue in the chart, perhaps even with a nice short-term pop, which would be great to see. Lord knows the shareholders deserve it, nothing i'd like to see better in fact.
I think you mean, rule "for" the stay, right? As it is the FDIC that is motioning to modify it?
I just have very little faith in Walrath at this point, i'll need to see different before I buy in again. Talk is cheap, been enough of that, and over 100 days and counting since the last arguments on SJ, how long does it take to make a decision? How much are we paying her an hour to squat on that and cogitate?
GLTU.
Any reasoning to back that up?
Wow. You really believe that? No downside potential? At all? wow.