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I don't remember Sandy making a direct quote that pfr'd would trade by sept 30 or whatever... only reference I've found was statement that they would be trade-able. (tradable, tradeable..is not in dictionary) I don't have time right now to re-read filings...
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Doughboy, I won't respond to your taunts, as you will ban yourself on your own responses such as calling someone a retard... I've never requested your input.
I accept the deletion although I don't think it was warranted.
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Did I just get instantly deleted...???
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My scottrade had shares in correct amount 1 day after pay date. Also, Sandy said "will be" trade-able. He didn't say when.... we can only hope it really happens... I'd rather Sandy gave the prf'd in a new public issue of TFN ... that's the real company right now.........
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Anybody looking for their prf'd notification look in account history, or trade history or dividend history links within their brokerage website... you will most likely find it there. My scottrade has bkmp prf'd in 3 places very clearly stated. Scottrade has no statement at all about not holding these shares.
Something else to think about as far as TFN penetration into US. Right now in legislature, is AT&T going after all cable franchises across the country. AT&T wants to do it all as well, cable,phone...internet etc.. and they are making end round behind the back attacks in the house and senate using well oiled lobbied senators ... If AT&T succeeds it may throw a wrench in any carrier plans. The very least, TFN may be forced to delay a US launch. Just do a search Telco bills… too many links to put here.
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been in this one for long while... it was goofy then, so I just want to flip it on it's more or less stable pulse... The big thing for me is to time all these div's and bail before the big R/S... which IMO is surely coming,,,, I have never seen a company last this long churning mining interests one after the other....
Also, when gwgo mentioned uranium... SHADES OF CmkX ... I knew Axtel was using the koolaid mining manuals.... I just want to hang out and see all the creative schemes this guy is doing...
This is not bashing... I've stated common sense... something seriously lacking in some of these pennies and investors (gamblers)
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Someone posted earlier that a ban is perma. I don't think thats true. I've seen people back before.
I may not agree with Ras, and kind words are difficult to come by from me about him, but I think if anyone diss's someone while they're banned that's just plain mean spirited and weak. So, I hope not to see such small minded actions here.
Why isn't there a TFN thread yet.. thats the real company and not bkmp... whatever the ratio of holdings bkmp has.
We have a new theory... takeover attempt...?? I wish posters would put SPEC at the top of the posts when discussing stuff like that... like OT::, maybe SPEC:: for speculation... fabrication, desperation....
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Here's my theory... reverse split on prf'd and commons, get the share numbers down to this planets normal exchange, then maybe some reality will set in and we can commence supporting something tangible like TFN... I believe if Tfn can generate interest and income on a wider scale... Tfn won't need bkmp and can dump, or buyout bkmp. Only a theory, not factual...................
From a previous AmbiDrive post... a cut and paste from spinoffadvisors...
"Many diversified companies are electing to spin off parts of their business, finding that this restructuring technique can create significant value for shareholders." This writer forgot to mention that a spin off is much more lucrative to the parent company officers as they can print more stocks on the new entity. Usually a company has to wait until a new year to reissue more stock...at least it used to be that way.
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OT:: Everybody's talking about web ads... that's where the real money is at... I was just reading it could be over 25 cents a click or more (click through to the ad target site.) Google is making at least up to 50% of their income from their sponsor ads..... sheesh. Ihub makes thousands from these ads as well... I'm going to start a blog and make some cash....I'll just keep my gnf shares as legacy stock.
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Is there a TFN thread. I don't see why there isn't. I'm in the states, so I don't see anything about Tfn here as yet. It would be interesting to gain some canadian insight into a product that appears to be growing in Canada. Specially if Tfn becomes a common name. We already can't get enough hockey. And any level of canadian football would trash my lions, so we would probably
suck up Tfn pretty quick here.
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Cap... I don't know that.. I'm wondering how much legality a junior partner would have in dictating new corporate enities...thats if Bkmp IS a junior type partner... not enough clarity in the filings to know yet. And I have no knowledge about canadian corporate ownership laws, so I'm stuck there for sure. My gut feelings when comparing Bkmp, or any sub penny for that matter to a higher exchange listed stock, which has more Sec rules to comply to, is trepidation about involvement. I would like to see TFN on its own masthead in the states and not hooked to Bkmp. It doesn't feel right anymore...
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ENOUGH dob... Ras reposted the same thing 20 times today... okay. I'm not going to add to your crap, so good night to you.
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Bud... This IS ihub's board... they can even close this thread completely. I don't think aggravation is prudent at this time.
I don't think admin is out of line on this one... I was deleted a ton of times too... mod's take the flak so we don't have to.
So, my sentiment is, enough for now.
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Rascia will be back... this is most likely a cool off ban... which was needed... that's why I like this board, you still can discuss it with admin, but in a protected environment and resolve it as well.... good fair job.
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No, but I'd like some....
who the hell is melvin
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I'm honored... I'm in the same sentence with Jan and Jim.... I couldn't hold a bkmp prf cert to them>!!
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Bkmp address in US is making more sense to me now, DBA here would be needed for future expansion. I think TFN may be viable in states with or without bkmp. My speculation is bkmp will go away when TFN secures some follow-ship in US. Seems to be very doable to me.
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even got mimurry screaming...
Ras, get some sleep, don't hurt yourself... we don't want that on our concience.... get back on your meds maybe...
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OT:: Jan, surly you jest as well... Gwgo DO BUSINESS...??
All they have done is print shares in all their mining interests that never bring dust to the surface... doing business would mean ... um... mining?... agree 100% with you...
shut up Rascia <-- pre emptive strike reply...
OH yes, Scottrade has my divs. Scottrade isn't short as well.!
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your post may explain the US connection... being on the US otc/pinks exchange... It may be as simple as Bkmp 20% represents the american financial bridge arrangement including american exchanges and Loan financing, etc. Thus the american address to do business. This american info was in a Bkmp filing in the past, but rather cryptically. This is my theory, sounds as good as any....
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Ah yes, the canadian company laws... a nagging little factoid that seems to slip a lot of peoples minds... thanks for reminding me as well. I wouldn't be surprised about canadian preferred shares laws.... which I know exists.
Rascia. Will you please honor my request for the factual documents stating Sandy's personal buying back of bkmp shares... Sec files please, NOT another post from other posters. Thanks.
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mimurray, thank you, very concise. What do you think makes the rest of the people think bkmp is after more of tfn, if it is just 2 people at the top.?? This has been bandied around constantly. That is what seems to be misleading, not what you posted. BTW, that IS your conclusion... none of bkmp filings actually state the direct partnership structure...(sec filings?) but your points are certainly viable.
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VAPORSHARES :: share structure that borders on whackyville and 2 shareholders can't even show the same listings with their brokers... also see Ckmx...
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The fact is, wherever do you get the fact that bkmp is trying for more of tfn. Where's your link to that fact.
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What a concept.. can I dare believe that everyone agrees that Bkmp is one shell <--my discription and that TFN is another entity. Yes, 2 people originated the idea, but who in fact makes the decisions..?? ONLY speculation by anybody on this thread.
Tfn is in a uphill battle, but at least there is something concrete there battling. Bkmp is vaporshares........
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Thanks simple, for your time... I've worked options but only with commodities which is fairly straight forward. My Friend said that he owned the stock, then wrote an sell option on them... your right, I have to go to the books on this one, and nail down my friend as well.... I think you may be correct as well about penny (otc) may not have a option train.
More to come.
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Did it occur to anyone, (1).. there is no law forcing a penny company to pay cash dividends for the prf'd. They just have to state in annual filing that all profits will be reinvested back into the company thus NO CASH to prf'd shares... all legal.
Never have to pay a dividend to shareholders... (2) Company can legally declare certain type common shareholders have no voting rights.... it's all up to the company... (3) Bkmp is issuing at this time over 130 trillion shares prf'd... you really think Sandy wants to pay out 10's of millions a Q to YOU. The only scenario I can predict is a reverse split of prf'd and common, most likely at the same time./... TFN is a real product... Bkmp is a shell leech and will suck TFN dry for as long as possible...
Oh and I just have to repost this from me.. as was posted late last night and after reading this mornings stuff and Rascia's incessant reposting of the same cut /paste of SOMEONE'S other post.....
Posted by: stockster5
In reply to: None Date:9/25/2006 2:43:59 AM
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It's way too late and rascia won't see this until morning... but rascia, you refuse to supply the proof of Sandy's buyback action.... perhaps a link to form 4,5... a filing somewhere,,, you keep repeating yourself but with NO proof.... put up some proof and NOT somebody else's post okay!!?
and regards to your nss crap ..
"Naked Short Shares totaled 362,000,000+ on June 30, 2006 ever since 1 1/2 years ago back to January 31, 2005."
***That's accumilative... meaning what neal is saying is that a mil here, a 10mil here is covered and all this shows is whats been shorted and covered.. it's not saying what wasn't covered!!!
"Now here's the deal Neal....Why are 18,039 shares (1/31/2005) still not covered by (June 30, 2006) thats a whooping 1 1/2 years later. As you can see this is well past T+3 days or even the 13 consecutive days allowed by NASD before they sit you in the corner"
***gee, lets see...thats a whopping 18 bucks at .001, which bkmp might not have attained all year so far..............
Listen Rascia,,, go back to middle earth and the Illuminati and tell them you failed to convince the surface dwellers of the existence of NSS and you and the rest of your people will have to go back to planet Zorquam in the ancient dogam discovered constellations of Orion. You are not of this planet.... and please turn off the lights of the underground nevada mountain compound when you guys leave so as not to waste our energy resources.... thanks.
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I can only get on later at night.... I read all post after my latest post... usually 1000's... Rascia is fond of saying crap about people then saying 'gotta run'... but you cardvic, are fond of bashing posters while bringing zilch to bkmp thread ever... You just pop in out of nowhere to boink people....
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It's way too late and rascia won't see this until morning... but rascia, you refuse to supply the proof of Sandy's buyback action.... perhaps a link to form 4,5... a filing somewhere,,, you keep repeating yourself but with NO proof.... put up some proof and NOT somebody else's post okay!!?
and regards to your nss crap ..
"Naked Short Shares totaled 362,000,000+ on June 30, 2006 ever since 1 1/2 years ago back to January 31, 2005."
***That's accumilative... meaning what neal is saying is that a mil here, a 10mil here is covered and all this shows is whats been shorted and covered.. it's not saying what wasn't covered!!!
"Now here's the deal Neal....Why are 18,039 shares (1/31/2005) still not covered by (June 30, 2006) thats a whooping 1 1/2 years later. As you can see this is well past T+3 days or even the 13 consecutive days allowed by NASD before they sit you in the corner"
***gee, lets see...thats a whopping 18 bucks at .001, which bkmp might not have attained all year so far..............
Listen Rascia,,, go back to middle earth and the Illuminati and tell them you failed to convince the surface dwellers of the existence of NSS and you and the rest of your people will have to go back to planet Zorquam in the ancient dogam discovered constellations of Orion. You are not of this planet.... and please turn off the lights of the underground nevada mountain compound when you guys leave so as not to waste our energy resources.... thanks.
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Morning, sir admin Matt, sir. All interface functions are working now. HALLELUJAH........ I no longer have to see stupid movie stars and football stills.......yaaay
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s409... did you own shares before the 13th of sept...???
this may have a bearing on div's.
Delusional is stating one has talked personally to Sandy and believes him a genius like Einstein.
But I would really like to see the proof that good ole' Sandy is taking one for the team and buying back all those shares for us.
I don't know how one would find this data.....
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OT:: J. Bishop.. sorry to put you through that on the other board... just read it this minute. The ihub functions weren't working when I was reading that thread, and I was not able to see the ibox stuff, and now from the posts and the page see that it's premium, which is self explanatory.
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Know what?? I have just realized why most if not all the bkmp pumpers are so, so,.. enlightened............. they are all retired full contact fighters. You people have taken one too many elbow strikes to the head....... People post 11 paragraph filings about the head CEO of another company proving how morally corrupt he is, and the retort is 'I don't care about the ceo of the company...' that is so brain damaged not to be concerned about a company officers past transgressions.
I'm ashamed to be a shareholder of this company when so many other shareholders are delusional.
On a another note... does it not seem strange that almost every brokerage is showing different bkmp prf'd transaction reconsilations....Also the earlier rumor now of possible cancellation of the div.
Onward and upwardly stupid.............
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OT:: TINA ... I'm honored. But, I did notice someone posting they liked your new version too... I guess I wasn't the only one cross eyed trying to enjoy your site. It crashes (freezes) with me because the frap is optimized for broadband... way too much data for us little modem pokeys. I know your housing pain, I just went inactive as a real estate agent as my office dumped out on all of us. So, I know what your going through... contingent on your property selling is a most stressful transaction to do. Mainly because you can sit in limbo while your buyer and your seller do stupid stuff which makes you want to drive your van through their frontrooms. These sales are daily deals, and really shouldn't be a hassle... but are sometimes. Good luck with the move.. your frap site must cost 10 bucks a day, there is so much stuff.
I hope bkmp does do something for your bottom ... line.......
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Hiya Simple... I was talking stock with a friend and he commented that he would write options on stock he owned, then would profit from this by selling or whatever..... but my question, if I could intrude on your time, is.. can one write or sell options on penny stock that they own... or is this only on macro stocks?
Any input would be appreciated.
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Rascia, benefit of the doubt maybe you didn't mean to type it this was..."Buyins.net..........SHO allowed Buyins.net to calculate the NSS....NASD does not do that......They only tie down the T+3"
The Sho releases the data to anybody... not restricting to any one company as far as I can tell...Buyins is a paid subcription company with their own copyrighted formula. It is not THE ony way to to show short positions... the Sho shows actuall short sales in varied stages of coverage... almost all those do get covered...
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Ras, why did you just post someone else's conjecture and speculation as if it were facts or something...???
Nothing against Seabiscuit, but you two are of the same pod... only seabiscuit is intelligent.
Okay, enough poster bashing for you... I can't waste my precious post count on you....
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Ras, whats with this new alias crap, you need a mind to play mind games with me. Naked shorts HAS never been proved or documented... people have been brought before judges but no one has shown nss to actually exist. I sure wouldn't mind someone giving a link to a substantiated document proving nss, that's not someone saying "I think they faked some shares".
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Since I was asking about it..here's a little link to an interesting blog about naked shorting by the brokerages...--> http://www.faulkingtruth.com/Articles/Investing101/1066.html
Holy crap rascia, your way out of line and close to a TOS or ban.... we should be so lucky..
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rascia, I apologize about you making that up. In fact, your incapable of making anything up as your incapable of doing your own DD. All your posts have been OTHER peoples posts and hard work... what does that make YOU???
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