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bidmark@ Agreed - as the market has been for the last 2- 3 years a 3% fall is nothing to get worried about. And even there is 'a clear explanation' to the fall.
World population grows with around 220.000 people every 24 hour - so human race is not about to be extinct :)
https://www.worldometers.info/world-population/
What AMRN mistreatment has learnt me :
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This is actually a number of questions to people on Ihub AMRN – with a lot more experience than me in Stocks and the Bio business especially. I think I have parts of the cynical money game figured out – but am I right?
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1: If Amarin AMRN had been aloud to be valued in the market – based on ‘real life’ outlook for Vascepa – the share price should have/would have been 55 – 70$. That is truly what I believe is the value – compared to other market big prospect shares ?
Reason why not? - Who is responsible for holding AMRN back - and is there a cynical plan by Big Pharma doing so?
2: As the game of Shorting – and the Option game (which I consider ‘Pure Gambling’ that has infected the gambling marked) – is rather new to me – I would like to ask the Board – the following:
A: Am I right in assuming that it right now is ‘The Option Game’ that controls AMRN - as it does many other stocks in companies value below say 50 billion $.
B: Remembering the ‘day after FDA approval 16. Dec 2019’ – volume 60 mill – and price falls - Am I right in assuming that ‘Big Money Tanks (banks/hedge funds who ever) – with a stock the size of AMRN – can control the Share Prize – down to the penny – every day – as of right now?
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I have bought into another stock (not Bio – but in the same range of company value) MRVL – and the fact is that this stock behaves in exactly the same manor every Friday – prize ends at Max Paine for ‘Option Puts and Calls' – funny enough.
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As I said in beginning AMRN is my first Bio investment – so the cynical money game (as I read it) is new to me - and I do find it - TO Bad – that this kind of cynical parasites - ‘Stealing Money’ from serious companies – it seams is accepted by financial authorities in today’s world.
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A couple of inputs to put thoughts in perspective:
First what 125 Goldman Sachs brokers earned ‘AVERAGE’ in City of London 2013.
Let med put it like this’ – I don’t believe they earn that kind of money by advising Mr. and Mrs. Jones how to invest their pension/401K.
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Input at Yahoo about new Vascepa Brochure:
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Bob Geeeeeeez2 days ago
What a name like 'Baker Br.' does for a stock :)
My conclusion was yesterday - that there 'is no officiel news' to any trials from the company - so still 'a lottery ticket' if any products ever reach the market.
But the mere fact that Baker Brothers have bought 500.000 shares - and the stock rallies :)
https://finance.yahoo.com/quote/IFRX?p=IFRX&.tsrc=fin-srch
PS. One good thing about the small stock is' that it apparently isn't infected by Gambling/Options - yet !
nbm16@ Just to finish off !
I had a look on the stock in question - and my conclusion is that 'it's a vild card' for Baker br.
1,7 mill. is peanuts for the brothers. Being who they are in the Bio Buiss. they simply buy the 500.000 stocks - now at bottom 3$ price 'to be in' if company succeed. It's a lottery ticket for them in my opinion.
I again thank you for your input - it's Ok to have a look at the world outside AMRN - just for balance.
ATB
jasbg
That's Bio for you - at it's worst :)
From 36$ to 3$ - in 6 days.
https://iwatchmarkets.com/2019/05/27/inflarx-n-v-ifrx-stock-seeing-declines-in-todays-session-2/
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Actually the situation does remind somewhat of AMRN before R-I sep. 2018.
Bose Sound - 130hp diesel - equip. ALL
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And you did notice 'Silver Lining' background :)
Jasbg
Thanks - worth a look :)
Only problem is that 'everything tied up in AMRN' - and this is not the best time to reduce' - though that Baker br. obviously did just that.
JL and Irishman@
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I do love this Car - best I ever had - and It gives me the chance to express my opinion about the totally absurd Climate Religion obsession in 'electric cars'.
It's the worst example of the total insanity in the youth of the modern world today 'totally brainwashed in schools and universities - with the UN Climate Nonsense.
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Since Ford in 1896 made his first car it has taken 125 years of fantastic development to make this planet a place where you can find a place to refill your Technical Wonder Car of the modern age in minutes' - all over the world - with super effective fossil fuels.
Electric Cars are pure Sick Red Climate Politics of State Subsidies (Tesla worst example):
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Here a Real Car - even it is produced in France - A Great Car':)
JL and Irishman@
Glad you liked it. The number was actually used by Renault for promoting their new SUV at the time - Kadjar (which I happen to drive myself) :)
But they sure are talentet the two girls who come from Sweden.
And to show their range from some event in Sweden herunder a live tribute to Emmylou harris:
Silver Lining - 2020 will end Great :)
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A reasonably fair article from 07 jan. 2020.
If already linked here - no harm done :)
My problem is that i sometimes look at sites to get wiser - end end up 'being more confused' - like just now a bit earlier:
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Impressive the number of specialized sites in investment out there.
Actually I was looking for a more complete list of Tute investors before asking about Artisan.
On the way i noticed another deep interesting site. You might know it already. It has another way to present things - and 'to me' new things like eg. Competive Analysis.
https://www.gurufocus.com/stock/AMRN/analysis
ATB
Jasbg
No need for apologi - just glad you cleared things up :)
Absolutely Not trying to be Negative - No Way.
I just wondered why the message were dated today' - and not understanding I asked - nothing more to it !
Again thanks for responding !
Continued Artisan Partners !
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I suddenly noticed you could go to about link - about each line in the scheme:
And here it looks to me that is about informing about 22,15% 'increased' ownership of of AMRN !
I somehow got the understanding that 13F was about selling.
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Well you cant know everything - but it would be nice to 'fill a little in brain here' :)
About Artisan Partners 13F
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Is there anyone here who can tell me what it means that Artisan Partners - is at the top of todays AMRN sales list - with their complete AMRN holding.
Does it mean that got scared by Oppenheim and Gershell (that they are selling out)?
I dont know enough to read these schemes ?
Thanks in advance to anyone who can explain how to read this :)
https://fintel.io/so/us/amrn (down the page top line)
Jasbg
Just for fun - here's where you can reinvest/spread JL !
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I was for years a big fan of Bill O'Reilly - before start of 'Me Too' removed him from Fox News.
I was skeptical when I saw video herunder - where he is gone into 'Stock Making' - but then again I used to trust this man.
https://pro.oxfordclub.com/p/WEALTHTO99OXFLT2YRDSMALMALLTBRK/POXFVA64/?gdpr_consent=&gdpr=true&h=true
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Bill is still entertaining - and looking at the video - I did get curious - which stock they were talking about? I found the answer 'elsewhere' on the internet - read for yourself - what is the stock in question:
https://www.stockgumshoe.com/reviews/oxford-club/whats-the-new-1-stock-in-america-teased-by-oxfords-great-american-wealth-project-presentation/
And because Bill is involved i did actually buy 'and hold' now 430 shares of the stock (in at about 25$) - so I'm on the 5G 'fast train' i hope.
Jasbg
Ok Thanks for answering JL
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And that explains everything - why your are 'reducing risk'- i would call it.
We all need money to live' - also us not being 'born yesterday'.
All the best
Jasbg
As others I'm surprised here JL.
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You fought/fight like a lion for 'not to settle' - and now you bail the ship. I understand your arguments - but I'm surprised - to the extend that having to make 'rethink my own position'.
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I have to ask you a direct question - and if you dont want to give that away I fully understand - but I have to ask ?
About my ovn investment - i this moment sit on 9000 shares in AMRN - (part in free investment - part in pensions/401) All in all AMRN is at the current value 16% of my value af total assets (401/house/cars).
If i sold today I could live well into my nineties - I'm 68 today. And I could be well of - even afford to join a golf club if I new how to swing :)
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So the simple question - how big a % of your assets in current value of AMRN is your holding ?
All the best
Jasbg
Institutional-holdings- rising to + 55%
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As many have pointed out - this is a game of 'Patiens' - and Tutes thinks in Decades - not Years.
And every day - retailers 'give up' right now - with the stock falling back.
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Message: The Big Boys Believes in Vascepa - 'More' All the Time :)
https://www.nasdaq.com/market-activity/stocks/amrn/institutional-holdings
(newest numbers in Tutes % is actually betwen 56- and 57%)
Possible manipulation of the AMRN stock.
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A few weeks ago I made an input here linking to the moral rules of SEC - regarding possible manipulation of AMRN stock.
A couple of replies signaled that SEC is just another 'to well paid' state bureau that - 'do nothing'.
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That might not be 'the whole truth' about the SEC. I just found a rather recent case (Oct. 19 2019) - where SEC actually rolls out a case on manipulation solved' that involved $31 million.
So the question here - has anyone even asked SEC to have a look on how AMRN is traded in the market (ref. to day after FDA approval 16. Dec 2019 - 6 times normal daily volume - and price 'falls') ?
https://www.sec.gov/news/press-release/2019-216
No one tell's a story like You JL :)
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You powerful history lesson really made Your Point. And of course your right the way you present the historical case
Some would say that Comanches had a somewhat 'Bolton Like' approach to solving conflicts - and that negotiations 'some times can solve' problems.
But Absolutely your 'Point is taken' - and I were entertained All the Way.
All the best !
Jasbg
Bill Gates paranoia - against Netscape in the 1990s.
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I have observed that there is quite a number of Grown Up's on this board - and for them it might be a bit fun - not to think of AMRN for a while - reading the story that i think many have heard of.
Bill Gates was not always 'the 'soft' saving the world figure' he is today. In those days in the 1990s he was still the paranoia CEO of Microsoft that saw danger/enemies before anyone else.
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What is the relevance of this story now - in AMRN forum on iHub ?
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Vascepa - AMRN - is to part of Big Pharma today - what Netscape were to Microsoft and Bill Gates back then in the 1990s.
Anyway for those that remember parts of the history it is interesting reading - were for me for sure.
Have a nice weekend - and dont think to much about AMRN - we will Get There - eventually :)
https://thehistoryoftheweb.com/browser-wars/
jasbg
+60 mill. stocks - and the SP 'falls' ?
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Day after FDA approval december 16. 2019 - was where I lost my 'childhood belief' in the stock market.
So - Yes - I'm sad to admit that a lot of fact's indicate that you are right' - that is is' Big Pharma that right now (via cynical manipulation) 100% control SP of Amarin - AMRN.
Input borrowed from Yahoo:
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Dano4 hours ago
Scripts compliments of Tucaman
Scripts for week ending 01/31/2020
Below the updated script numbers. I included scripts for Lovaza (incl. Generic, though not sure I captured all suppliers) - for reference. I'll leave it to RAF and Sam to comment on plausibility of the figures.
Vascepa
TRx: 78'161 (+2.30%)
NRx: 38'140 (+0.77%)
Generic Lovaza
TRx: 58'667 (+2.18%)
NRx: 29'917 (+2.28%)
You tried before - just provoking - and that fine' - your right to your opinion!
I was just talking/meaning 'general' stock market - that there is always/every day - some stock's somewhere that - that with 'News' - like FDA approval of some sort of succes full Trial result - that is rising fast.
And especially for young people - it can be hard to se 'the stock you hold' falling back day after day - while others go through the roof !
Almost every day Finwiz has on of these runners' - like today at the top right now this moment MYO up 276%.
https://finviz.com/
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dmiller - you are not obliged to comment every input I make - just looking for something to criticize. Just dont read my posts !
And a big Congrats to USA for the two beautiful Latino Birds (+40) in the Super Bowl Break.
What a Show' - still miles ahead in this modern world !
And i saw 'Mee Too' brougt up as a reaction.
Can only say - 'Get a Life' - to people that dont see the beauty in those two ladies and the fantastic show they were a part of.
Where we are right now with AMRN is probarbly the hardest place at all to remain calm - with the ever changing big news of the day.
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Every day you se other Bio Stock 'being approved by FDA and rising big' - or you see other Stocks rise from positive news.
AMRN is falling back slowly as so many times before' - what is the argument that this pattern will not continue through 2020 - 2021 ?
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As of right now there is 'no argument' - other than If you believe in the trials of Vascepa - this drug can be the 'Savior' - og hundred of millions of 'right now 'Unhealthy' People in this world.
And if 'Vascepa Is' - what we (many of us Big Investors) trust it to be - both the hundred of millions of Future Users - and Us' the Investors - will be happy during early years of 2020's :)
jasbg
A bit of interesting weekend reading:
On Yahoo forum - Baker Brothers are mentioned very often - as being 'The Gurus' of Bio Tech investment.
Who are these brothers - why are they so admired ?
Found an article that i think also might be worth reading for someone on this board - and let me put it like this - I would have liked being 'a third brother' - these guys are brilliant :)
https://www.fa-mag.com/news/baker-brothers-make--1-4-billion-in-two-weeks-on-biotech-52525.html
All Stocks held by Baker Brothers:
https://www.holdingschannel.com/all/stocks-held-by-baker-bros-advisors-lp/
I hate Gambling – always have. And I mean Gambling under ‘Any Form’ – which is why I hate the Option game – that has infected the stock market.
What did Gambling ever do to help anyone – what did it accomplish other than make ‘the sellers’ filthy rich?
What did/do Gambling ‘produce’ other than misery - even for the few winners ‘most often’?
How did Gambling ever benefit society – why isn’t it prohibited/stopped in a civilized world?
I will go to the extend of proclaiming that alcoholism is actually easier to accept for me. There you at least are likely to ‘have a good time’ before your kill yourself.
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Well – this as an intro to ‘knowledge’ about ‘Gamling in Stocks /‘Options’. Where did it come from (history) and why does it have such a big impact on ‘as an example’ AMRN stock as of right now.
Options – Calls / Puts – is (whether I like or not) a part’ - (seemingly a big part) - of reality in the stock market – and I therefore tried to find information explaining where is actually came from historically, to at least try to understand what it is about.
I know big part - of the bright minds here on iHub - know all there is to know about these things – but there might be some ‘that does not know the world of the stock market that well’ – like me’ – so to them’ I have put a useful link that explains ‘history of Options’. And there is a lot of other basic leaning information’s about have Options works in ‘real world’ stock market.
https://www.optionsplaybook.com/options-introduction/stock-option-history/
CM@ You remember WP
No one told me this was 'a one subject' forum - as you suggest !
This is a rather recent fine article on Vascepa.
It might be introduced here already - but then no harm done:
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https://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/922865
jesslm@
I did understand that 'you were shooting at the Cardio Doc's article'!
Made me feel a bit guilty bringing it to iHub :)
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The good news is that I now know 'a lot of history of Amarin and Vascepa' - and understand - where you are 'coming from' in the debates here.
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Once again thanks for your deep and colour-full inputs :)
Jasbg
jesslm@
As I underline all the time I'm an lay person - who knows absolutely nothing about the Bio world - other than what i read from inputs like yours.
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I only copied the 'Heart Doc MD' input from Yahoo forum to here - as a subject for debat - as there were a number of things in there - that was interesting (new at least to me)
And 'Heart Doc MD' - article was noticed.
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And it fired you up - i see - to make a super input that (being rather new here) tells me why you have a large number of followers.
And reading your input (being old with a lot of experience in business other than Bio) i feel the weight when you talk - and listens !
Can only say - Respect from Here - I for one believe what you say and forecast for Amarin and Vascepa.
All the best
jasbg
The fallback of AMRN stock yesterday might very well be a result of - a number of Bio Investors running for the Corona related stocks.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/13-coronavirus-related-stocks-watch-150037622.html
This guy is still at it at tipranks. You would have thought he had deleted the rankings of AMRN and ACST !
49% "Succes Rate"
https://www.tipranks.com/analysts/leland-gershell
Whala@
This post - logical to close gap' to the earlier post on AMRN subject from user 'Heart Doc MD' on Yahoo. .
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And Yes this guy is sharp' - and seems to be a capacity in MD.
But is he right in his 'Hard Core'- no other way than BO analyses ?
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Have to admit that I have (as I think many) reached a point this kind of talk 'catched on with me' - but is it 'the whole and only truth' ?
Only future can tell what actually will happen with Amarin and Vascepa - going forward.