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Irish@ Having lived through 3 of theese 'socalled Pandemi's before - it is hard not to think that 'things right now' has gone completely mad - with this one.
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With the H1N1 flu - also known as swine flu back in 2009 - authorities from the start, realized that it would not be impossible to contain the virus. The approach thereafter was to prepare hospitals to give the best possible care to the people that got sick.
But then WHO, out of nowhere, after 2009 alters the criteria for 'declaring a Pandemi' - which countries are obliged to try to contain. The result of this 'change in procedure from WHO' are exactly what plays out right now.
Governments around the world are scared sick - using enormous resources and money trying to contain 'a very contagious virus' (which many experts says is in reality impossible). Instead 'all these resources' were much better used to prepare 'hospitals worldwide' to take optimal care of the elderly, with prior conditions, that it at risk (as they would be also of a normal flu virus infection).
In Denmark where I live. The government yesterday closed down the entire country - 'literally'. All schools and childcare closed down in 14 days. In Denmark no deaths yet - still foodshop's were 'run over' after the announcement.
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I'm fully 'with you' on the seriousness of the situation.
But I do find it very unfair to blame the sitting US administration for the situation in USA (which very many does - not at least in EU and Europe). The way UN and WHO has announced, that Covid-19 'shall be contained' - is ruling against laws of nature - according to many experts. It simply cant be done. But clearly the political enemies sees 'morning light' in an election year.
Jasbg
Good days to be Brokers. See what GS guys made - 32.900 people 'Average' 6 years ago.
They dont make that kind of money giving advice to Mr. Jones about his 401K.
https://www.theguardian.com/business/2014/jan/16/goldman-sachs-pay-employees-average-383000-dollars-profits-rise-5-percent
This might be Chinas 'Payback' for the tradewar - and America First policy.
And 'Does it Work' !!!
About China and the truth about this world crises:
https://video.foxnews.com/v/6139293589001 (twitter link)
Oversight of the 'normal' Flu Season's' in USA:
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/about/burden/index.html
My God' - what a rotten spring 2020 has turned out to be !
Liverpool out of Champions League - the last nail in the coffin :)
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Can only get better from here :)
jimmyb@ Hold 9.000 - and it's not nice to se the fallback right now.
What hurts the most is 'the fact' - that if you sold at 21- 22 - you could have bought so many more AMRN shares in today's market.
But that's life - when you play with 'the big boys'. But OK' - with the Corona and the 'insane' fallback of AMRN - this is about the worst I have been hit in the market in a single stock.
Right now it is UN and WHO that has taken over this planet, and that in fact worries me more - than the obvious manipulation of the AMRN stock.
Jasbg
Truth is - that if you'r sitting on 8 million stocks - (Like Leland Gershell's Oppenheimer is') - it's easy as hell to drive the SP down in a situation like the market is in right now.
The big tutes really dont care what the AMRN SP is today. They are busy 'moving money around to hit 'the runners' of which there are many' in the 'artificial UN WHO created 'World Panic' right now.
The 'Globalists in EU and China' (and the Climate Fanatic's) celebrate this 'First real threat to' Current US administration.
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Us many retailers' are sitting ducks'- paralysed over the ever falling SP of AMRN - despite the obvious logic, that a Stock with the Potentiel of Amarin's Vascepa - should in 'real free market be thriving'.
How do you manipulate a stock the size of AMARIN AMRN:
https://www.nasdaq.com/articles/5-market-manipulation-tactics-and-how-avoid-them-2018-04-11
Jasbg
JL@ Exactly this piece of music has followed me most of my life.
How did you know that! I had actually newer heard the version with Joan Baez - but absolutely fantastic.
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I head the original version of - Brothers in Arms - every day for more than ten years (in the car on cassette tape) - while I were It Ingenier on the road much of the time.
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Mark Knopfler is God for me' - his guitarsound will live forever :)
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
And if this was about Reality - there would be possibly 30- 50.000 new infected every day. Just like in the Flu-Season' - happens every year.
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One wonders - 'Where are Greta' and the Pope'. This 'has to be' linked to the Climate Crisis :)
inv29@ Would be a bit more interesting - if your input was about AMRN :)
But I acknowledge what you say - and You'r right. But being 'not raised in english' makes it a bit more challenging.
Ashamed to admit - that being 'god in grammar' haven't been the top priority in my life - not even in my own language. Sorry !
Jasbg
JDR@ Somehow a number of people here tends to blame the CEO for drop in SP prize.
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I'v mentioned a number of times a key point in AMRN's late history was day after FDA approval 16. december 2019. Volume 60 million and the SP price falls.
I will to my dying day call that 'Proff of manipulation'. Who is behind it - probably a collation of Money Tanks (Offenheimer - Citi - GS backed by BP).
The disappointment of SP even falling after FDA approval - partly brook 'the spirit of the Stock' for many retailers. And the steady fallback - since then - even after Canada Approval - and great numbers Q4 2019, has proven - that AMRN simply 'was not aloud' to 'take off' !
That's how I see It - having owned lots of different stocks over the years - newer seen ever rising positive stories about a stock - make it fall back against all logic.
The trial has come to 'fill everything' be course the 'ever unexplainable fallback'. Had the SP been at 30- 50$ - wich would have been 'Normal' IMO - then the trial would be just another hurdle' on the way 'as the trials and approvals' - hopefully passed in a positive way.
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My aim starting this input were actually to remind 'Doubters' of the man that drove- and drive this company forward. There is not many CEO's like John Thero out there' - why he has received a number of Awards for his achievements over the years. In my opinion there would not be' an Amarin if it wasn't for this man.
https://www.pm360online.com/3-keys-to-success-right-people-right-values-and-a-shared-mission/
https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1GGGE_daDK498DK498&q=john+thero+awards&tbm=isch&source=univ&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwigtZ_Yu5DoAhUJ3qQKHap0AoQQsAR6BAgJEAE&biw=1316&bih=697#imgrc=D1nTfszPS29ahM
Jasbg
Futures are 'Green' - lets hope they stay that way :)
https://www.investing.com/indices/indices-futures
circuit - and JL@ This is a very exiting debat about Vascepa possibly helping Corona patients in Wuhan area China - you have here.
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To the input from JL that only China have the number of patients 'to learn anything' (to study the effect on the elderly and sick) - there might be some medical person on this board that have studied with Chinese doctor - from the most hit area in China.
The easiest and fastest way - would be to contact Amarin - if they would hopefully 'free of charge' donate the necessary Vascepa medicin - for to do the study - and then to contact the authorities over there (best through a known doctor that know procedures - who to contact)
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Just ideas from a Lay person - that know absolutely nothing about medicin - but as long as JL says Vascepa will 'close to 100% help these patients' that might convince Amarin that this is in fact a very good idea.
In every way only 'a possible Win situation' :)
Jasbg
inv29@ That's 'Sexist' - LOL :)
jfmc@ The market today is Primarily a result of the Oil market crash - what I read about the panic.
Of course development is 'Put On Top of Corona Virus' and that does not make the situation better.
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I never said that you should not take the situation serious, of course you shall. As you would not visit any of your family in a period were they have the flu' for obvious reasons.
All I'm saying is' - given 'the numbers' - this is WAY Owerblovn - not especially in USA. Several countries in Europe are in complete Panic mode.
It,s the Panic' - most of all that Scares People. Given the numbers in USA how many knows somebody directly effected by the virus ?
MSM media 'keeps Scare alive 24-7 'For Everybody'.
These Brokers and Market Guys - are part of Hysteria Right Now. This is NOT - 2007- 2008 - with 'the world economy, at the time, completely rotten' - after years of mismanagement.
Today's economy in USA is absolutely 'The best in the World', and it will recover fast
Jasbg
JL@ And if you look at the numbers'(new infections actually falling) - it is difficult to understand why this should make the Markets Panic - like it does today:
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
dmiller@ You again! You may have you opinion - I stand by what i Wrote !
The development with Corona virus - is Absolut Hysteria - an embarrassment for human race.
Governments and authorities react if is was World War 3. Just saw that Wall Street 'works from home' - it's a joke.
It's been said again and again - children - and 'normal healthy people is not at risk at all' chances are that they will not even notice' (witch fact should at the same time tell every pro. in medicine that already millions has been hit by this 'new fly' worldwide, that just did not get sick).
So what will authorities do next - use the armies to test the 'whole world', and is it even possible to test those 'probably millions' in say China - that has already built up immunity ?
With the low interests rates and ever lasting bull-market- the big Money Tanks (banks - hedge funds) they are having 'field days' with the panic - which is where they score the most in shorts - and buying up value stocks - at panic prices.
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Again this is just so embarrassing for human race.
Just recently 200.000 died, and God knows how many badly injured in Syria. Hospitals were deliberately bombed. Tens of thousands of childrens are psychologically spoiled for life.
This total tragedy did not effect the money markets at all - but a few thousand, already sick and for different reasons weakened people dies - 'a natural death's of a new fly virus' - and the world falls apart.
But surely the UN and WHO (and health authorities worldwide) will have no problem getting donations for the next 10 years. Is that maybe a factor in this ?
To cite Franklin D. Roosevelt. We have Nothing to fear' but fear itself.
Jasbg
jfmcrr@ Thank you for your answer - and your right' I did get your post wrong about the HIV.
Your are of course absolutely right about 'spreading fear to the public is 'so damn easy' - and 'the money to be made' So BIG.
Put on top of that the number of MSM media 'always looking for sensation - that gives the best viewer numbers (social media Fake/'Silver Hat' news) - you have a cocktail - that 'the next moment will be claiming - 'Virus is Invasion from Mars' to take over the Planet.
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I will set a link below with a story from back in 2009 - about how WHO changed the criteria (made it easier) to proclaim a New Flu - to be a 'Pandemi'.
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88.000 people died in this season in USA from the 'Normal Flu' - without anyone shouting 'Pandemi'. WHO's own nummers says around 500.000 Worldwide dies of the flu every year.
Now here comes along this 'new virus' from China. I haven't heard any of the 'experts on Media try to explain 'why this much smaller number' is much more dangerous for the general public. It is 'exactly the same group of people that dies from this virus - than from 'normal flu'. Primarily old people in bad health. How is Covid-19 different from already known Flu Virus's ?
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=154164023
Alle the best to you and your wife.
Jasbg
Irish@ Love your spirit - and I agree :)
The truth is that 'the trial' wont change the Value of Vascepa for Patients one bit.
It's all theoretical - 'what if' !
Are Generics 'Thives' actually able to replicate Vascepa (took 10 years for Amarin to develop)?
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Of Course everybody that knows the truth about Amarin - hopes that the Judge rules in favour of the company - that 'fought and payed in 'Years and Sweat' for the development of Vascepa.
But even in the event that 'Generics Thives' - manage to have some sort of support from the Court - they are stil just cynical 'THIVES' !
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Amarin and Vascepa - Will Conquer the World :)
Jasbg
BB@ Admire your energy and enthusiasm regarding Amarin future.
Even maybe not everybody here - agree 100% with all your points - it is in the end 'Doer's that move the World Forward' !
All the best
Jasbg
Everyone knows - you'v got to make others bye the stocks you own .)
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Succes it not easy to come by these days in the market. As a complete wild shut - entirely Based on the Fact that Baker Brothers sold part of AMRN and bought this one instead - IFRX - i bought 1880 shares yesterday at 4.10$.
Bragging - today it is up 7.45% - that's succes - Yes :)
Downside' total value of Investments (cash/pensions/401) down 'a landslide' - like 3- 4 nice cars - even in Denmark with 125% tax on new cars.
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But that's life - i haven't sold anything 'At All' through the Corona Storm - and I'm not going to.
What I worry most about - is our darling Amarin AMRN - the trial and near future. As a lot of people on this board - I'm if fact Maybe To Hard into this stock - which is right now down 'all together' - some 30- 35% from were I came in. But I do still believe that Amarin will concure the future :)
Have a nice and Corona Free weekend to everybody.
Jasbg
JRD@ Funny - Mr. Rich Guy :) - Soap does wonders !
jfmc@ I congratulate you . that you lived through HIV - which people my age remember as probably the worst killer in modern times.
But with all respect - as of today I will not compare this 'Latest Flu' - to the deathwarent to even young and healthy people of the HIV virus in the first 10- 15 years it played out.
Covid-19 - will in future be considered 'just another Flu-Virus. HIV was one of the vorst merciless killers of young 'otherwise healthy' people ever.
ATB
Jasbg
WhLat@ Every time Authorities says -'Dont Panic' - People 'PANIC' :)
Lemmw@ I Heard on MSM that the Corona Virus test costs something like 3.000$ - and that it is not in all States yet decided/informed that you wont have to pay that your self.
That in itself garantes that 'not every possible infected person' seek authorities for testing.
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I dont know if it's correct - but I think it was actually here on iHub i saw someone mention that China is now offering every citizen (was on CNBC) 1400$ compensation for seeking testing - if they suspected infected with the Virus. And if correct - of course that does indicate that they take it very serious over there.
Jasbg
Lemw: Thanks for answer: To the point your making (about the 3% - against normaL 'flu rate death' - 0,1 - 0,2% - experts actually expects covid-19 to end in the same range (given that there is likely hundred of thousands/millions 'being exposed' to virus - with small to no symptoms).
Right this moment dont remember if it where Danish or American expert that pointed this out. That the expectation is that 'death rate in the end is like 'already known Flu Viruses - 0,1 - 0,2%.
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No'one wants to respond to the fact that WHO changed their policy - making it easier to declare 'Pandemi' ? :)
Not difficult to find like 'a thousand' reasons to 'Have a Pandemi' every 5 - 8 years - looking at the number of impacts this fenomena have on the economy (donations to UN and WHO) Bio Industri. Lots of big Money interests.
And that is not even counting in the Major Political influence this could have in an election year in the USA.
Jasbe
nor400@ You commented on an article I Quoted couple of days ago - subject that WHO did change their definition of 'Pandemi' - to make it much easier to push the panic button - exactly what we see right now.
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https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=154164023
1: Even though you responded' - it was not to the matter of WHO's new 'Pandemi' polisy.
Please respond to - the fact that WHO's definition for 'Pandemi' suddenly was changed - making it a lot easier to declare 'Pandemi' ?
2: As I take you for qualified in Medicine - Will you please explain to me the difference in Covid-19 - to a 'Ordinary Flu' that hits every year.
I just saw on Fox News explained from expert - that 88.000 people have died from the usual 'Ordinary Flu' in USA alone this season. Up until this moment 14 people died in US from 2020 Corona Virus (the latest Flu).
Why is Covid-19 declared a 'world threading Pandemi' ?
Jasbg
BraST@ The market is very much a psychological game - of Fear and Greed - and in the end $$ and more $$.
I personally have an ambivalent perception of Wall Street (the Money Market general). It is in many ways rather rotten' (run by a bunch of Selfish ignorant Brokers - only caring about themselves and money).
Problem is that 'alternatives are even worse' (China - Rusia - Cuba - Venezuela - Ukraine).
So in 'Real Life' - still prefers Wall Street - and the European Markets.
Jasbg
studh@ It has already been brutal' - waiting forever' for this fantastic drug to be Valued Fairly.
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If you believe in the big number of 'Real Medicine Experts' (who many takes V themselves) - here on iHub - and others on Yahoo - this drug is a Lifesaver - like nothing they ever seen before'. And that's why this is a HIGH VALUE stock - no matter what.
The trial that is soon to be ended - might have impact 'short-term' - but it will not stop' this revolutionary drug from going to be a Worldwide Succes - saving millions of CV patients from early death.
Jasbg
no40@ Did you actually read the tekst i set up on the board ?
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loblo@ I'l bring a marching-band with trompets and banners - and sunny weather.
You just tell you'r butler to 'make a call' when you bought the Manison :)
Problem is that UN - has become a 'free in the air floating' - undemocratic State among States - with 85,000 'much to highly paid' employees.
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UN keeps making / feeding their invented Money Machines - be It 'CO2 Climate Nonsense' - or as here - 'Another world threading Pandemic'.
UN 2020 - Don't Solve Problems - The big Bureaucratic Monster 'Creates Problems' to serve their own benefit - living in absolute luxury.
loblo@ Can I come visit - Airbnb LOL :)
Sometimes Truth is 'Relative':
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Under here an article from a left leaning Danish paper - back in 2009.
Already then suspicious of the direction UN and WHO took:
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jfm@ Best of luck for your wife.
That's a hard road you and she have been traveling. Really hope Vasepa will help her get better !
All the best
Jasbg
IN8@ NOT!!! - Believe in AMRN - But !!!
BioC@ Good for you. As long as you hold on to AMRN - you'r OK - Yes :)
That's hysteria for you :)
They say the have vaccine by the end of the year! This problem is long over by then !