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One possibilty is that I use Windows98 on the machine that I actually place the trades through and receive my trade confirmations . Betting on 98 being less vulnerable these days since it's basically obsolete. The main machines are on XP Pro which could possibly be directed through different mail servers.
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churak
I realize that. I have email confirmations for my trades sent from two of my brokerages to my Sympatico email accounts.
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churak
Strange, since I've had about 20 trade confirmations through their system today and not one repeat. I'm in Toronto today so you would suspect that we would be on the same mail servers.
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churak
No problem with Sympatico's mail servers for myself today. Any chance that your mail server settings were accidently changed at your end ? I would suggest using Yahoo mail for all message board signups and other non-important websites. Sympatico is the absolutely spam free for my accounts. I actually save it for use with my brokerages , banks and services such as StockWatch and my other data providers.
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churak
I've got both the Sympatico.ca dialup and DSL for backups . Use Rogers High Speed for the main machines but use DSL for the message boards.
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TSX
Basically CMKM Diamonds was to be a promotion to market the moose pasture that Urbie had acquired. Nothing more and nothing less. At least that was Urbie's plan. But I suspect that Edwards and crew were planning something much different. My take on the whole saga is that they had hoped to be finished with the company before any drilling program and promotion could take place. The real money was made during the period of time when the share price had fallen from $.03 to the fourth decimal place. My guess is that they had hoped to see CMKM Diamonds revoked before 2004.
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TSX
What makes me laugh, is how people could possibly think Urbie is the mastermind behind this scam. I'm quite sure that he was clueless to what was going on until at least the late fall of 2003. The Casavants received next to nothing of the proceeds of the first 80 billion shares issued. That's why many were close to going bankrupt and the local boys were selling shares out of the suitcase.
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pantherj
They must have touched up the picture. He can sure talk , but there's a real wind tunnel upstairs. You remember that little story by that Paltalk poster davidjmar ? Edwards and crew had a free pass to do what they wanted before Jan 2004.
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pantherj
Have you ever met Urbie in person ? I was first introduced to him back in 1996 and it seems that the years since haven't improved his abilities.
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pantherj
" The records confirmed that John Edwards was selling stock and sending
money to company management for various company expenses. John Edwards
maintained possession of the stock transfer ledger.According to records produced by the
SEC, John Edwards set up 32 trust accounts at NevWest Securities for the purpose of trading CMKM stocks and other issues. "
Talk about the fox being loose in the henhouse. Typical Urbie ,certainly not the brightest bulb on the tree.
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pantherj
" BTW, I am still waiting for you to tell me exactly what you mean by the term "over issuance." "
Like I've mentioned before, it's the time period before CMKM Diamonds traded under the symbol CMKX. I suspect the plan was for CMKM Diamonds to fail ( bankrupt ) before the end of 2003.
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Thanks pantherj
I should have remembered Urbie's involvement with Al Moen ( sp? ). Urbie was peddling anything that he could get a percent from back after the Petro Plus fiasco. I was curious if Edwards and crew were involved with PCBM.
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pantherj
Were the CMKX Las Vegas insiders also involved with PCBM ? Besides the ones that you mentioned in your post.
" Turino is in FloriDUH, Vinnie "The Torch" LoCastro is in Pennsylvania. You didn't miss too much with PCBM. It was merely a mini-CMKX. Same players, consultants, game plan, same pumpers, TA, accountants, etc, etc, etc. "
TIA
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hasher5
I suspect that Urbie may have been able to make a deal with the authorities. I also suspect the Las Vegas insiders have a nefarious history which is much longer than any realize. The names that we have heard so far could be just the front men for a much more organized group of crooks.
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h24ever
Look for a poster who's best described as a nut on a hill. He always thinks that he is writing the next " War and Peace " He's on Pedro's lists of shareholders who received shares from CMKX for ? services. I fully expect to see him listed in the one of the future lawsuits.
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h24ever
Better have another look at your posting history to refresh your memory. One of those posters is connected at the hip to most of the insiders so far listed in the lawsuits.
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h24ever
" Wonder if msg: board bashers will be nimed ??? hate to be them with there real name know, for the ones that listen to there 24/7 bashing and sold there shares !!!!!, As for me i say tks !!!! i bought aother 100 mill between .00003-.0001 :>) $$$$$$$$$$ Bashers GOT ASSETS ? $$$$$$$$$$$$$ "
It's ironic that you should post such content in your posting. Due to the fact that some of your buddies on other forums are actually posters who have connections to insiders of CMKX listed in the lawsuits.
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pantherj
" So, if the assets are the Sask 025# company, does it look to you as if they are substantial enough to benefit Mom & Pop share holder in addition to funding Frizzy/West's plans?? '
Well all claims are moose pasture until drilled and proven. But I've heard there are suppose to be some additional cores that are decent.
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pantherj
Most likely the holdings of the Sask 025 # company. The key to this whole mess is what happened before Feb 2004.
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puppydotcom
Who said he was innocent ? What I stated was that he acquired a rigged shell company that was milked early resulting in the share price being driven into the ground. Urban and clan certainly received a large percent of the shares issued during 2004. So far those shares look legit as long as the opinion letters hold up in a court of law. I suspect most will, especially the ones written by Roger Glen.
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gump
I suspect that you are correct. My guess is that plans were already in motion when the shell was still located in Toronto. They were just waiting for a rube such as Urban to feed to the wolves. The shell was rigged and Urban didn't have the smarts to understand the corporate structure.
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Buckfever1
Correct ! Whatever happened , was before the symbol change to CMKX. The CMKX the shares are legit as long as the opinion letters by Glen and others hold up.
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nufced
Depends on the definition of NSS. I suspect that someone involved with company sold shares that were never issued into the O/S . I also believe that these shares entered the market when the stock was trading under the CMKM symbol.
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Buckfever1
Yes the famous fishing trips and the thumbs up trip to the mine.
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janice
I tend to lean in that direction also. But I talked to someone that I know at Osgoode Hall who believes that the trips to the locations will be enough to satisfy the courts especially when dealing with a Pinksheet company.
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janice
Do you think the opinion letters that were used to remove the restrictions from the shares issued in 2004 would hold up in court ?
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h24ever
Do you believe that all CMKX cert holders will receive some form of payment in the future ? Or do you believe just a select few will be awarded a settlement ?
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HndtoHnd
It would have helped, if your CEO Urban Casavant hadn't been so stupid as to recruit a bunch of crooks as insiders. Talk about letting the fox loose in the chicken coop.
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janice
I have a feeling those CMKM shares of mine will have value yet. I'll have to thank the Paltalk loonies for keeping this dog alive. Too bad they won't receive anything for their frenzied activity.
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" Gump and Trade: do you know of any moly producers/explorers besides ROK that look like they have a shot? "
Remind me next when I return home and I'll get you a list of moly producers.
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rabblerouser
NVT actually looks quite interesting. Insiders have been buying shares from the open market lately. I'm away from the home resisdence this week due to the kids being off school. So I don't have access to my data base which could tell me what percent of the O/S is owned by insiders. I do see that they have about 37 millions shares outstanding at this time.
thanks
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TSX
I'm a technical trader , so most of my sells are based on the charts. Which usually corresponds with the old strategy of sell after the PDAC. But your method is pretty darn accurate the majority of the time. It's amazing how many of those old sayings still hold merit.
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EngrishPetey
" Bill would own MaryAnne's butt by the time he was legally done with her. Frizzy should call Hakala and ask for copies of the "Slowick package". 1000 pages of Silverbutt's greatest hits. "
But would he get the beer cans ? Those empties must be worth a fortune.
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janice
" It was also during 2003 that Urbie, Desormeau, and Melvin were selling stock out of a suitcase in Canada. "
That actually falls right in with " the fox in the hen house " scenario. Stock was entering the market from a source that didn't benifit the company . That's about the time that the Casavant family sent Ron to Las Vegas to see what the hell was going on. I'm pretty sure you know who told me that at that time. There were a lot of Casavant's in 2003 who were in dire financial straits due to Urbie's incompedance.
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hasher5
Did you subscribe to stockpromoters.com ? It's interesting to compare the daily promoted list to certain posters on this website. One stock on their list last week made me enough to pay for 5 years of their service.
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Soory TSX , most of the time I don't even bother to find out what they are exploring for. I just trade technicals, share structure, and insider ownership. I found early on that it was a good way to prevent myself from believing the story.
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Insiders have been selling AUA.V daily for quite sometime. Also has over 72 million share outstanding at this time.
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h24ever
Did you buy any of your shares prior to trading under the symbol CMKX ? If not, then you won't have any.
If you know David Jmar ask him when he alerted Urban to the closet episode. I'll wager it was during 2003.
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h24ever
" trade, intersting, so if i bought (say) 50 mill under cmkm, there real shares, and the ones bought (say) 150 mill under cmkx were (say) "sting" shares ??? "
Nope . If you bought shares during the CMKX period then you got legit shares which were issued with opinion letters. Do a total on the amount of shares covered with opinion letters provided by Roger Glen. My guess is that more than 760 billion shares were issued during the period of time that the stock traded under the symbol CMKX. It's the shares issued prior to trading under the CMKX symbol that are suspect.
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janice
Here's an interesting tidbit. I have a CDN brokerage account that you had to phone in US Pinkie orders during the CMKX era. When CMKX had it's pump to $.001 I unloaded several of the other accounts online and held the free shares in the phone in account. When I became curious about this whole naked short issue I ordered the cert. Instead of one cert , two certs arrived representing the exact number of shares purchased during the years 2003 ( CMKM ) and 2004 ( CMKX ). At this time both certs are framed and hanging on the wall in front of my main computers. The certs are quite different. The cert for the shares purchased during 2003 period has a number of additional identifiers and unusual legal wording.
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