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db24. Your question were seemingly rhetorical. I wasn't trying to avoid them.
You are absolutely right when you imply that I don't know (or pretend to know) what transpires behind the closed doors at EDIG.
You presume them innocent until proven guilty of incompetence.
I presume them guilty because (in my opinion) they continually and openly displayed such serious levels of incompetence for all of us to see.(the SHMs and the CCs to name a few)
ucansee. Selling now at .20-.23 is relatively meaningless even at 160K shares. I still have enough faith in the patents to believe that it makes sense to hold on, with or without current mgmt.
An impotent carrot is just one more ray of hope(incentive to stay invested dangled out there by RP) that ends up being a non-performer. Do I need to list them for you?? The EDIG PR library is full of them.
jmo jtdiii
donatos. They need someone who can sell and someone who casts some sort of shadow on Wall Street. These clowns couldn't even fill out an SEC application properly.
jmo jtdiii
tolstoy-00. That's certainly their choice. Let's hope they're too busy to do so.
db24. The shareholder meeting was the last straw for me. Were you there? Even past shareholder meetings(not to mention the conference calls) have been so ill prepared its no wonder these guys continue to fail.
If they can't get it up for this steadfast,loyal,forgiving group of "benevolent barracudas", then how intense do you think they are every day when they go to work??(tech folks excluded here)
JMO jtdiii
LL. If you're right, I'll be eating crow forever and a day. I sincerely hope that even some of the substance in the article comes to fruition.
However, I remain of the opinion that these guys never have had the business acumen to craft a meaningfully profitable deal for the company. And now,they find themselves so accustomed to negotiating with scared money for so long that they are psychologically incapable of taking the company to the next level, much less exponential growth.
I dare them to prove me wrong. I want these idiots(Fred/Robert/Steve/Allen/Ran/etal) to get so mad at people like me who no longer have confidence in their incessant back to back failures, that maybe they just might be more concerned with accountability and less concerned with keeping themselves on the payroll.
They certainly have enough e-mails from me to know where I stand. Silence from enabling shareholders only makes these guys more complacent. I'm sorry, but they've shown me nothing.
If there was/is truth to the article,then why don't they have the stones to put it out in a PR???The clock continues to tick from the PARADE article. How long do you think it will need to tick from this new one??
LL. I think you are probably a great guy. I can see it in your posts. I don't have a bone to pick with you (or DABOSS).
But at the end of the day, you need to decide what exactly is wrong with this little company.
You are willing to wait until 2005 to find out. I can wait just as long as you. I'm reasonably wealthy and have patient money. The difference between you/DABOSS and me is that I don't think current management will get us to 2005(money or no money).
At what point will YOU say enough is enough? Or are you forever willing to wait for the final dangling of just one more impotent carrot?(all just my opinion)
CC: Fred Falk
Robert Putnam
Ran Furman
Steve Ferguson
DABOSS.Great post,as always..until the last paragraph.....
(per your post)
"The lacking ingredient?? Not proprietary technology,product design or market demand, but rather capital...."
I still say the lacking ingredient is also an "aggressive, marketing oriented management team with a proven history of successful execution of an emerging market business plan."
DABOSS, I continue to admire your steadfast loyalty to this company, and I am hopeful that in the next few weeks, we will here SOMETHING from management about SOMETHING.
At what point do some of the Falk/Putnam chauvinists on this board realize that these two guys have been and will continue to be nothing more than "also ran" minor league players.
No,it's not time to change upper management now. Although Steve Ferguson(VP/Sales) probably should have been terminated years ago. Isn't it sad that Ferguson has NEVER spoken in front of the shareholders? Instead we always hear from the bumbling Falk. What must Ferguson's stage presence be like in front of potential OEMs?? Worse than Falk? Does it matter? Neither one of these guys seem to be able to close the deal.
If we EVER get out of this mess(I still say that with these guys in charge, we will only get out of it with some kind of cosmic dumb luck)..... then I certainly hope that Fred/Robert etal will finally realize that they need to step aside and let a new team take this company to the next level, before they put themselves in charge of squandering the NEXT opportunity.(they are fast on their way to squandering the PARADE gift from heaven)
MY TAKE...The lacking ingredients..1)capital. 2)MANAGEMENT.
Some on this board will say this is nothing more than a rehashed opinion of previous posts expressing disappointment with our present team, and that such repetition serves no purpose other than to drag down investor confidence. Fair enough.
However,at some point, there are also investors who may come to realize that they don't want to be a shareholder in a company where the prevailing shareholder attitude continues to forgive poor management and poor management decisions.
Some of the see no evil/hear no evil "MISHAs" on this board need to start facing reality,and be less concerned with censoring criticism on this little message board and more concerned with calling management to task. Can it really damage the share price any more than they themselves already have?
JMO........jtdiii
lickily. Sale of personal residence is tax exempt(first 500k of profit for joint filers). This will have no effect. There is no reason to offset something that is not taxed in the first place.
db24.God in heaven I hope you're right.
Gilgamash. There is no way D.inkie is MIR. He has a much greater technical understanding than she does...(smile)..john
Gilgamash. Lets hope it had more truth to it than his 11/99 implication........another memorable quote that died on the vine......void of any real meaning other than to entice and simultaneously exclude the pertinant facts.....(JMO)
Gilgamash.Are you wtmgyes?
Gilgamash.Your quote is almost 3 years old.....(11/99)...... ...to be exact... at the nov 99 SHM.........
The exact quote was..."sometimes your competitors become your customers".....hardly something to hang your hat on.
Gilgamash...A "branded" player may have EDIG on the inside, but an OEM brand on the outside. The general public is unaware of EDIG's participation. The need for an NDA is rendered relatively unimportant.
With all due respect. It is high time EDIG's investors ceased using the NDA possibility as an enabling "out" for lack of verifiable progress.(JMHOBWTFDIK)....jtdiii
D.inkie/Hollywoodhills... It is my belief that ultimately our salvation will come from the "matured juxtaposition" of D.inkie's last two posts. I can only hope that EDIG can survive long enough for this to become reality.....(JMHO) jtdiii
Gilgamash. Am I the only one here who believes all of these "clones" you and others have found are merely other players manufactured by Digitalway that simply share the same "skin"(exterior appearance) as the EDIG players, and that this skin sharing does not in any way necessarily mean that EDIG is inside ???
Management has disclosed so little to its own shareholders that we are left in the pitiful position of frantically searching for some clue of their actually having successfully executed a branded revenue producer somewhere else in the world.
There have been so few verifiable successes to date that surely mgmt. would bypass the inclusion of a NDA if only for the sole purpose of being able to announce a new potential revenue stream of even intermediate substance.
If these examples are indeed part of the "exponential growth" to which Collier was referring, then I will assume that he only erred by missing the mark on the more immediate $2.6 mil. estimate, and the exponential growth thing was an already launched runaway train that would not yet be disclosed through an accounting loophole and was instead being "saved" for the next reporting period (sans Collier)
Look, I can get as easily excited as the next EDIG long, but at some point we always end up chasing windmills.....
Still long and waiting..... (JMHO) jtdiii
Gilgamash... By branded version of the O 1000, are you saying that e.Digital is inside? If so ,wouldn't that have been disclosed already. Sorry to be jumping in/did I miss something?
LawyerLong..Well said.//
DABOSS... Not exactly what I meant... If they "remembered" it was coming and had a clue to the effect/response the article might have, why did they wait so long to alter the web site and why have they not gone on record that they have more than 1000??
I agree that this is a fantastic opportunity. However,if mgmt didn't have the forsight to investigate the timing of the issue and then go ahead and sell more(alot more)shelf shares to meet the demand of 1000+ players,then this gives you some insight as to why this group has neither the stones nor the brains to execute any task involving the successful pursuit of real revenue.
I for one would have applauded such a move. I agree that the PARADE thing is the biggest break this company has EVER had. If it's too late for them to be able to fulfill orders,then the article and cover will become nothing more than reminiscent cocktail chatter.
I suspect they're sitting around scratching themselves trying to figure out how to deal with this situation that has them sitting in Poway,impotent with imaginary or inconsequential inventory.
Once again... Hope I'm wrong.. But with the exception of the engineering team, these bozos still haven't shown us anything. Plain common sense(not speculation)indicates they aren't ready to respond to this PARADE situation with anything more than a hastily constructed website prematurely asking complete strangers for their e-mail addresses.
DABOSS. Do you think mgmt knew the PARADE article was coming?
OT TEST.
LawyerLong...I applaud your intense support of the company moving forward as much as I despise the sardonic comments of the MurrayHills of this world.
I also actively support the company moving forward.However,at what point do we begin to separate the "company" from the "management"??
It angers me to no end that our management has surely known about this PARADE situation for several months now and apparently has been totally unprepared. I will be very very pleased(and pleasantly surprised) if we find out otherwise over the next several weeks.
HOWEVER......
Why else would they wait until well after the bell to send out a PR on the Parade article??
Why else would they have waited for Friday night(knowing many readers get their Sunday paper on Saturday) to begin their initial web posting/gathering of e-mail addresses for those responding to the PARADE article and interested in purchasing the O1000 "sometime in the future."??
Why else would they still have it out there to shareholders that they only have 1000 units available for sale??
It's the same sloppy management that brought us the MPX/MXP fiasco at the much hyped Olympic Gold event.(another squandered opportunity)
I'm sorry, but these guys are guilty until proven innocent in my book. I can get excited about the technology and the patents, but I'd trade these stumblebums in for a fresh management team at the drop of a hat.
I was as happy as anyone to see our little O 1000 in PARADE,but if management was/is totally prepared to take 100% advantage of PARADE's immediate impact,then none of us should need to be pretending that we're happy enough waiting around for 2005 to happen.
Suddenly using the article to try to "close an OEM deal" or using it to "get Digitalway to pony up" only goes to show how uncompelling their initial efforts were prior to the article's arrival.(and how clueless they were about the PARADE timing)
Here's hoping I'll be eating mounds of smelly crow pie this Christmas.JMHOBWTFDIK
LawyerLong...I applaud your intense support of the company moving forward as much as I despise the sardonic comments of the MurrayHills of this world.
I also actively support the company moving forward.However,at what point do we begin to separate the "company" from the "management"??
It angers me to no end that our management has surely known about this PARADE situation for several months now and apparently has been totally unprepared. I will be very very pleased(and pleasantly surprised) if we find out otherwise over the next several weeks.
HOWEVER......
Why else would they wait until well after the bell to send out a PR on the Parade article??
Why else would they have waited for Friday night(knowing many readers get their Sunday paper on Saturday) to begin their initial web posting/gathering of e-mail addresses for those responding to the PARADE article and interested in purchasing the O1000 "sometime in the future."??
Why else would they still have it out there to shareholders that they only have 1000 units available for sale??
It's the same sloppy management that brought us the MPX/MXP fiasco at the much hyped Olympic Gold event.(another squandered opportunity)
I'm sorry, but these guys are guilty until proven innocent in my book. I can get excited about the technology and the patents, but I'd trade these stumblebums in for a fresh management team at the drop of a hat.
I was as happy as anyone to see our little O 1000 in PARADE,but if management was/is totally prepared to take 100% advantage of PARADE's immediate impact,then none of us should need to be pretending that we're happy enough waiting around for 2005 to happen.
Suddenly using the article to try to "close an OEM deal" or using it to "get Digitalway to pony up" only goes to show how uncompelling their initial efforts were prior to the article's arrival.(and how clueless they were about the PARADE timing)
Here's hoping I'll be eating mounds of smelly crow pie this Christmas.JMHOBWTFDIK
LawyerLong...I applaud your intense support of the company moving forward as much as I despise the sardonic comments of the MurrayHills of this world.
I also actively support the company moving forward.However,at what point do we begin to separate the "company" from the "management"??
It angers me to no end that our management has surely known about this PARADE situation for several months now and apparently has been totally unprepared. I will be very very pleased(and pleasantly surprised) if we find out otherwise over the next several weeks.
HOWEVER......
Why else would they wait until well after the bell to send out a PR on the Parade article??
Why else would they have waited for Friday night(knowing many readers get their Sunday paper on Saturday) to begin their initial web posting/gathering of e-mail addresses for those responding to the PARADE article and interested in purchasing the O1000 "sometime in the future."??
Why else would they still have it out there to shareholders that they only have 1000 units available for sale??
It's the same sloppy management that brought us the MPX/MXP fiasco at the much hyped Olympic Gold event.(another squandered opportunity)
I'm sorry, but these guys are guilty until proven innocent in my book. I can get excited about the technology and the patents, but I'd trade these stumblebums in for a fresh management team at the drop of a hat.
I was as happy as anyone to see our little O 1000 in PARADE,but if management was/is totally prepared to take 100% advantage of PARADE's immediate impact,then none of us should need to be pretending that we're happy enough waiting around for 2005 to happen.
Suddenly using the article to try to "close an OEM deal" or using it to "get Digitalway to pony up" only goes to show how uncompelling their initial efforts were prior to the article's arrival.(and how clueless they were about the PARADE timing)
Here's hoping I'll be eating mounds of smelly crow pie this Christmas.JMHOBWTFDIK
Heybrad or Tuscansun (judging from grammatical structure)
MIR Brown & Co. $10/limit order for 5000 shares or less.
MIR Hope you're right. That would be huge...//
db24. You've got to be kidding. Do you honestly think they have more than 1000 EDIG branded Odyssey 1000s ? Not only did they "allow" it to run (as if they could/would abort it), but they composed an after the bell PR to flame the fires.
If they indeed do have the financial ability to produce enough EDIG branded players to meet this new found demand (fed by the PARADE article), then things are indeed looking VERY,VERY GOOD for this little Poway company...
Sentinel..a rational yet sobering post.
Why doesn't EDIG's website list the Drag n Rip ability on their list of Odyssey 1000 features ? Seems like a fairly important feature. Why exclude it? More "MPX"/"MXP" sloppy work ?
Did mgmt(sans Collier) know this PR opportunity was even coming? Doesn't appear so. I just hope the PARADE cover that actually goes to press is not the "umbrella" cover (the one WITHOUT the Q1000). If it is,then here we go again with just another example of more "ready,fire,aim" from a mgmt group unable to execute. PLEASE MAY I BE WRONG ON THIS.
Sorry, but I've got 160,000+ angry shares that are miserably tired of being disappointed.
Having said all that, it may be impossible for EDIG to botch this opportunity. Surely our website will get tens of 1000s of hits(I'd say more,but PARADE is definitely a 50+ publication)and the shareprice should increase on Monday (.40+?). I just hope they are ready to supply more than 1000 of these units prior to 12/25/02.
I'm no basher, and I'm not going to sell my shares simply because I feel we are cursed with a dysfunctional mgmt team. The price is just too low,and I SINCERELY BELIEVE WE WILL HAVE DRAMATIC PPS INCREASES OVER THE NEXT 7 WEEKS AND HOPEFULLY BEYOND. (all jmho)
timf..always liked your sardonic wit. Like you even more now. Well stated, rational thoughts. Very glad you're still with us............jtdiii
DIAZ has NOT registered his shares to sell. His 360,000 share purchase on 8/2/02 was just now registered on 11/8/02. What SEC files have you been reading?
RE:Proxy Voting.I will vote 160,000 shares against those 4 board members as well,and will also notify them by email. This situation has always bothered me and it's about time these BOD members were brought to task.
Thank you Jim for your eloquent post. BTW, where have you been lately?
RE:Proxy Voting.I will vote 160,000 shares against those 4 board members as well,and will also notify them by email. This situation has always bothered me and it's about time these BOD members were brought to task.
Thank you Jim for your eloquent post. BTW, where have you been lately?
Dropped by the B&O Atlanta (Phipps Plaza) store today on the way to take my little 29 month old daughter to see the movie, Stuart Little. Just spent enough time there to find out that they had only had them in for a week, but had already sold 3 of them. The salesperson also told me that most of the buyers(3) had been comparing it to the ipod and decided on the B&O player.
Sorry. I was in a bit of a hurry, but was glad to hear of 3 sales in one short week. How many stores does B&O have nationally and internationally?
TI54XDSP vs TM5320C5000. Why is this important?? Excuse my ignorance here. Thank you Trillium for all your work and help in answering my question on Agora too....
The Microsoft MXP article was part of an an April Fool's joke'as I'm sure you knew. Just read the part about mad cow disease,etc,etc. So, how is this relevant to e.Digitals MXP??? Thank you for all your incredible work emit, but could you explain the importance of that link,please....
VoiceNav. Limited initial distribution only through e.Digital e-tailing???
Can someone clear up what may be a misperception on my part ???
It is my understanding that VoiceNav will not be made immediately available inside the players of our OEMs,
but only inside the e.Digital branded players.......Is this right???
cksla...what does the TI/RealNetwork's PR have to do with EDIG???. Not trying to be rude,but do you believe that there is even the remote possibility of a connection??? Thanks for all the good work you do on this board and others......
drven..a company such as Tality perhaps...