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So you think Roger Glenn is in on a scam?
BBP!
Dusty their plan was to set a price point. They mentioned .10.
At that point they would sell and then use that money to do the deed. So they won't waste mony up fron. Sounds like a good plan! :)
Dusty........They seemed quite intent on getting Lee! Now can I say it? :) Lets get SHORTY!
Blue..........This was very interesting. I was contacted by a group of CMKX shareholders who are committing money to Give Lee Webb and company a little trouble. They intend to buy out the company and fire him and or set up road blocks to make things miserable for him. This came through a PM to me. Has anyone else been contacted?
Hi Lifer,
CMKX is fine. Urban just needs to address this issue before we get to the next level. I'll be happy to play but I don't want another HURRICANE anytime soon!
When we get to the BB level the S/P should show promise. Hope you and yours are doing well after Genie.
Take Care!
BBP!
Yep, I agree!
10-4.............he has gone off the deap end!
If you want the goods on Melvin, let me tell you about last night. He started a riot on Paltalk. If any of us could have gotten our hands on him, well you know what I mean. And let me tell you it was his worse stunt to date!
It was around 5:00 PM. The room was almost full as Dr.Diamonds speech was going to be played at 5:30.
Melvin logs in and does his usual greeting. Hi folks, Uncle Melvie here. Hey listen up! Listen up! I got good news for you all. Yes that's right good news!
We found the Mother Load! We found the Mother Load! (he's quiet for 30 seconds and everyone in the room is breaking their neck to get closer to their computer and turn the sound up.) We have found the Mother Load! Yes that's right, We have found the Mother Load!
Everyone is going nuts with questions like gold? diamonds? and so on. Then he says Yes Vicky and I found the mother load for a potato patch. We found enough potatoes in the back yard to last a month. And he is laughing out loud and saying, oh boy that was a good one.
Well people were PISSED BAD! They were ready to string him up and torture him. Now Melvin gets mad as hello and says no one can tell him what to do or say as he is a shareholder and doesn't come on Paltalk till after market hours. If anyone doesn't like it they can stick it where the sun don't shine.
There were some pretty notable longs who started arguing with him and telling him how unprofessional he is. It just kept escalating and escalating.
Then to make matters worse some of the Admins. start saying hey calm down. Melvin is our friend. (Melvin got so mad he signed off real pissed off!) So the Admins start saying hey you guys can't talk about the man if he's not here to defend himself. Of course this makes most even madder. Now its a real yelling match on the mikes between shareholders and Adminis. Their we some pretty popular, knowledgeable longs in there and they were just steaming. Most were getting on the mike for the first time saying they have had it with Melvin.
It was the worst situation I have ever seen there. I don't get mad easy but I was ticked also. After all this he comes back and starts in again. Now people are irate. Then a religious gentleman gets on the mike and tells Melvin how much he respects Melvin, how he has prayed for him, how his situation is so difficult. Then he says but Melvin what you did was just wrong. Just plain wrong. He says Melvin you crossed the line. Whether you like it or not. You are a rep of the company and you can't come on here and play with peoples emotions. You can not come here and try to be everyone's friend. He then prays for Melvin.
Melvin then comes back on the mike and is in tears. He say sir you are right. I apologize to all the shareholders for my actions here. I was wrong and it won't happen again.
This whole ordeal took about an hour. It was a very sad event for CMKX's Paltalk room.
BBP!
Yea this baby rocks!!!!
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MMmmm? Double COOL, Cool!
I hope they don't put the Saints so far back and high up. You can get a nose bleed in that part of the bleachers! :)
MDGN Making a nice move this AM. Heavy volume with + .04
Well investors will run but not traders. Using T/A it is quite easy to avoid these stocks short term.
BBP!
Well here's WILLY'S opinion on the short issue!
By: WillyWizardClub
29 Sep 2004, 01:22 AM EDT
Msg. 567770 of 567771
(This msg. is a reply to 566273 by WillyWizardClub.)
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The Rat Trap
Have you ever set a trap for a pesky rat? The object is to bait the
trap to entice the rat to nibble then bang you close the trap.
CMKX has never announced the payable date for any stock divvy before
the recent press release last Friday. They have announced the date
of record in press releases but nowhere do you see that date for
paying out the divvy. Yes OTCB.com and other sites listed September
24th as the date payable for the UCAD divvy but this wasn't news from
CMKX or UCAD as a public announcement to shareholders.
Here is an excerpt from the CMKX press release about UCAD divvy.
"DENVER, Jul 18, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink
Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to have reached a purchase agreement with
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB:UCAD) to which U.S. Canadian
Minerals Inc. will be purchasing 5% of all mineral claims held by
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in exchange for 7.5 million shares of UCAD. CMKM
Diamonds, Inc. will later issue these shares to all shareholders of
record on August 20, 2004."
No date of delivery, only date of record.
The rats have taken the bait and bit hard
Recently funny events have been taking place as far as the UCAD share
delivery. Some individuals have received shares before the masses and
the shares they received were not restricted like UCAD had reported
in a previous filing. If you didn't read this UCAD filing you would
have never known these shares were suppose to be #144 shares that
CMKX was to receive.
Follow me on this one
The individuals that have received shares are not with larger
brokerage houses. Also some of these individuals are from over seas.
I have heard nobody from the larger brokerage houses such as Etrade
or Ameritrade have received UCAD shares. In addition the shares they
received were put in their accounts at both old and new distribution
ratios.
I am sure Roger Glenn, company attorney, has been working closely
with the SEC on the problem of CMKX being shorted. Normally if a
divvy was issued to a select few giving them the edge to sell first
before the masses were able to sell would be a company violation and
a halt in trading could happen. This would be a huge SEC violation
giving an edge to a select few to sell before the masses also had a
chance to sell. A few sellers of UCAD wouldn't hurt the share price
as much as the masses selling.
Could this be considered Market Maker Front Running? If someone were
given shares of a company before the masses received shares and sold
them receiving the advantage is Front Running? By the Market Makers
selectively covering a naked shorted share they could be considered
Front Running the short squeeze. When shares are paid out as a
divvy, making it look like the divvy entity paid out this share divvy
and they did not isn't this fraud? Isn't this an illegal act
violating securities law?
The rats are trying to create reasons to get CMKX halted. If they
could force a CMKX halt on trading and move their short trouble into
a courtroom this would be the easy way out for them. By giving out
these share it was suppose to put the focus on the company and not
the MM that naked shorted CMKX to the public. The naked short is
estimated to be huge. In a courtroom the market maker might lose and
face a small fine but the situation they are facing might get
eliminated but the judge. This would force both parties to settle the
matter, easy way out for the naked short seller.
The rats have naked sold short CMKX shares. I believe this and have
always held the belief a short exists. How large this short is only
CMKX/Roger Glenn see the figures. They have been tracking this short
for many months and I believe they know exactly where they are at
when setting the Rat Trap.
Bottom line is CMKX has a naked short problem. In all my years
associated with Pinks and OTCBBs I have never seen the
company/investor win. Yes I have seen a few attempts but the MM
usually gets back control at some point and shorts the price back to
a point investors panic and the MM takes in the selling covering
making big bucks.
The Rat Trap is being set as each CMKX shareholder dividend is
announced. They are setting many rattraps in various degrees to catch
these big rats.
CIM is a big rattrap about to come out of hiding. Do you think CIM
will be an IPO? Do you think the rats can obtain CIM shares? LOL
Only CMKX shareholders can get a divvy of CIM shares. Forty billion
CIM shares are about to be distributed to CMKX shareholders. CIM is
to be a zinc mine play in northern Saskatchewan.
Is SGGM another Rat Trap? SGGM has a very low issuance of apx. 16
million common shares but a high AS of 850 billion and out of that
giving CMKX 200 billion restricted shares. What if CIM was merged
into SGGM at a 1 CIM share to every 5 SGGM shares. What a rat trap
this would be. What if the restriction on the SGGM shares was
lifted?
CIM/SGGM was just a thought but if the market makers try buying SGGM
shares to cover CMKX divvy of CIM shares how would that work? They
would be forced to buy SGGM on the open market, no other choice
because they can't buy CIM shares because it's not a public company.
Yes everyone the Rat Traps are being set. The UCAD Rat Trap was the
first trap out of many we should see set. Each Rat Trap will dig
deeper and deeper into the market maker's bank vault, slowly draining
their cash and affecting their resolve. At some point in time the
market maker will have to cover CMKX because if CMKX ever does a
reverse merger into another company the result could drain the vault
reserves that the market maker has taken years to build.
Rat Trap!!! Everyone this is going to get real interesting the next
40 days as we move towards the end of October. It's reported from the
race this weekend CMKX is anticipating filing before the end of
October. If these Divvy Rat Traps are putting pressure on the market
maker and CMKX becomes fully reporting this should open up another
window to the Rat Trap. It's reported huge buying is just waiting to
start up once CMKX becomes fully reporting. The whales are waiting
to start buying. I wrote about the whales for months and many laugh
at me. It's being reported at the race and Corning VP was at the race
for a special meeting. It is reported, "Corning is ready to buy 20%
of the company (CMKX) once it is fully reporting." On another angle
ask why Corning is so interested in buying 20% of the company.
Readers this is about to turn into a double hit, then a triple, then
a home run for shareholders imo. We are about to start receiving
stock divvies and CMKX share price increase should follow. The Rat
Trap that is being set into motion. We can see this by hearing about
UCAD shares fraudulently delivered as a stock divvy is the first
noticeable event that the general public/shareholder has been able to
actually witness as part of the breaking the naked short. This is
going to get very interesting the next few weeks and months.
The trap has been set for the pesky rat? The rat has nibbled at the
bait. Soon the trap will slam shut.
The basic theory came from discusions with phxgold and zen.
Thank you,
Hal Engel aka WillyWizard
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=567770
Well here's WILLY'S opinion on the short issue!
By: WillyWizardClub
29 Sep 2004, 01:22 AM EDT
Msg. 567770 of 567771
(This msg. is a reply to 566273 by WillyWizardClub.)
Jump to msg. #
The Rat Trap
Have you ever set a trap for a pesky rat? The object is to bait the
trap to entice the rat to nibble then bang you close the trap.
CMKX has never announced the payable date for any stock divvy before
the recent press release last Friday. They have announced the date
of record in press releases but nowhere do you see that date for
paying out the divvy. Yes OTCB.com and other sites listed September
24th as the date payable for the UCAD divvy but this wasn't news from
CMKX or UCAD as a public announcement to shareholders.
Here is an excerpt from the CMKX press release about UCAD divvy.
"DENVER, Jul 18, 2004 (BUSINESS WIRE) -- CMKM Diamonds, Inc. (Pink
Sheets:CMKX) is pleased to have reached a purchase agreement with
U.S. Canadian Minerals, Inc. (OTC BB:UCAD) to which U.S. Canadian
Minerals Inc. will be purchasing 5% of all mineral claims held by
CMKM Diamonds, Inc. in exchange for 7.5 million shares of UCAD. CMKM
Diamonds, Inc. will later issue these shares to all shareholders of
record on August 20, 2004."
No date of delivery, only date of record.
The rats have taken the bait and bit hard
Recently funny events have been taking place as far as the UCAD share
delivery. Some individuals have received shares before the masses and
the shares they received were not restricted like UCAD had reported
in a previous filing. If you didn't read this UCAD filing you would
have never known these shares were suppose to be #144 shares that
CMKX was to receive.
Follow me on this one
The individuals that have received shares are not with larger
brokerage houses. Also some of these individuals are from over seas.
I have heard nobody from the larger brokerage houses such as Etrade
or Ameritrade have received UCAD shares. In addition the shares they
received were put in their accounts at both old and new distribution
ratios.
I am sure Roger Glenn, company attorney, has been working closely
with the SEC on the problem of CMKX being shorted. Normally if a
divvy was issued to a select few giving them the edge to sell first
before the masses were able to sell would be a company violation and
a halt in trading could happen. This would be a huge SEC violation
giving an edge to a select few to sell before the masses also had a
chance to sell. A few sellers of UCAD wouldn't hurt the share price
as much as the masses selling.
Could this be considered Market Maker Front Running? If someone were
given shares of a company before the masses received shares and sold
them receiving the advantage is Front Running? By the Market Makers
selectively covering a naked shorted share they could be considered
Front Running the short squeeze. When shares are paid out as a
divvy, making it look like the divvy entity paid out this share divvy
and they did not isn't this fraud? Isn't this an illegal act
violating securities law?
The rats are trying to create reasons to get CMKX halted. If they
could force a CMKX halt on trading and move their short trouble into
a courtroom this would be the easy way out for them. By giving out
these share it was suppose to put the focus on the company and not
the MM that naked shorted CMKX to the public. The naked short is
estimated to be huge. In a courtroom the market maker might lose and
face a small fine but the situation they are facing might get
eliminated but the judge. This would force both parties to settle the
matter, easy way out for the naked short seller.
The rats have naked sold short CMKX shares. I believe this and have
always held the belief a short exists. How large this short is only
CMKX/Roger Glenn see the figures. They have been tracking this short
for many months and I believe they know exactly where they are at
when setting the Rat Trap.
Bottom line is CMKX has a naked short problem. In all my years
associated with Pinks and OTCBBs I have never seen the
company/investor win. Yes I have seen a few attempts but the MM
usually gets back control at some point and shorts the price back to
a point investors panic and the MM takes in the selling covering
making big bucks.
The Rat Trap is being set as each CMKX shareholder dividend is
announced. They are setting many rattraps in various degrees to catch
these big rats.
CIM is a big rattrap about to come out of hiding. Do you think CIM
will be an IPO? Do you think the rats can obtain CIM shares? LOL
Only CMKX shareholders can get a divvy of CIM shares. Forty billion
CIM shares are about to be distributed to CMKX shareholders. CIM is
to be a zinc mine play in northern Saskatchewan.
Is SGGM another Rat Trap? SGGM has a very low issuance of apx. 16
million common shares but a high AS of 850 billion and out of that
giving CMKX 200 billion restricted shares. What if CIM was merged
into SGGM at a 1 CIM share to every 5 SGGM shares. What a rat trap
this would be. What if the restriction on the SGGM shares was
lifted?
CIM/SGGM was just a thought but if the market makers try buying SGGM
shares to cover CMKX divvy of CIM shares how would that work? They
would be forced to buy SGGM on the open market, no other choice
because they can't buy CIM shares because it's not a public company.
Yes everyone the Rat Traps are being set. The UCAD Rat Trap was the
first trap out of many we should see set. Each Rat Trap will dig
deeper and deeper into the market maker's bank vault, slowly draining
their cash and affecting their resolve. At some point in time the
market maker will have to cover CMKX because if CMKX ever does a
reverse merger into another company the result could drain the vault
reserves that the market maker has taken years to build.
Rat Trap!!! Everyone this is going to get real interesting the next
40 days as we move towards the end of October. It's reported from the
race this weekend CMKX is anticipating filing before the end of
October. If these Divvy Rat Traps are putting pressure on the market
maker and CMKX becomes fully reporting this should open up another
window to the Rat Trap. It's reported huge buying is just waiting to
start up once CMKX becomes fully reporting. The whales are waiting
to start buying. I wrote about the whales for months and many laugh
at me. It's being reported at the race and Corning VP was at the race
for a special meeting. It is reported, "Corning is ready to buy 20%
of the company (CMKX) once it is fully reporting." On another angle
ask why Corning is so interested in buying 20% of the company.
Readers this is about to turn into a double hit, then a triple, then
a home run for shareholders imo. We are about to start receiving
stock divvies and CMKX share price increase should follow. The Rat
Trap that is being set into motion. We can see this by hearing about
UCAD shares fraudulently delivered as a stock divvy is the first
noticeable event that the general public/shareholder has been able to
actually witness as part of the breaking the naked short. This is
going to get very interesting the next few weeks and months.
The trap has been set for the pesky rat? The rat has nibbled at the
bait. Soon the trap will slam shut.
The basic theory came from discusions with phxgold and zen.
Thank you,
Hal Engel aka WillyWizard
http://ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CMKX&read=567770
Joye1..........This is a nice chart for pink sheet stocks. Do you know its origination?
BBP!
Yes their are a few I would say. I've been trading for about 12 years and I have not been involved in a short covering yet. I'd love to experience one though. You say your here for it. Can you please tell me is it setting up the way you thought it would? And any time frames?
BBP!
Great Post By: schmedrick Read it again and weap Janice!
28 Sep 2004, 11:52 PM EDT
Msg. 88454 of 88465
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I Believe a Deal Has Been Negotiated
Why do I say this?, let's look try to use some common sense and a little speculation to approach this. First we had the UCAD dividend scheduled to be paid on 9/24, then we had the CIM and GEMM dividends due to be paid on 10/1. On or about 9/21 (I don't recall the exact date) JEFF disappeared from the Level II lineup and a few days later on 9/24 we received a PR stating the UCAD dividend has been delayed until 10/6. Now we are finding out that the CIM dividend has been delayed until 10/18, and the GEMM dividend has been delayed until 11/15. From the beginning I thought it very was strange as to why there were so many dividends scheduled to be paid on 10/1, all on the same day, if you assume that GEMM will have paid off two dividends by the first 97 million shares, and the other 121 million shares.
Stacking up all those dividends on a single day never made any sense to me. Typically a company will stagger the dividend payments over time, such as one per month or some variation of that, much like what they are doing now. Is it possible that this was just an oversight and they corrected it? I don't think so, because when they issued the original dividend PR's, they knew what the pay dates were when they were issued. So, we made it all the way to 9/24 when the UCAD dividends were to be paid, and only a few days after JEFF disappeared from the lineup, and then they delayed all the dividends and staggered them out over time just like I expected them to do from the very beginning. Now everything seems to be structured in a much more logical manner.
OK, now this is beginning to make a bit more sense, but why all the cloak and dagger maneuvering? It is my belief that they originally structured all the dividends together as some sort of strategic move, to get the MM's to react to it, and more specifically JEFF. Well guess what? just a few days before the boom was about to be lowered, JEFF disappeared from the lineup, and as I had mentioned, all the dividends were restructured in terms of pay dates. Now the first week into trading after the UCAD dividend was to be paid, and with JEFF gone, the volume has picked up significantly. Today's volume was 5.3 billion shares and it is going through in large blocks, and many of them at that. This tells me that whatever the significance of the dividends being stacked up so close together was, it worked, it was effective, they were able to get rid of JEFF the 900lb Gorilla, and that was the first and most important major breakthrough we needed. One could argue that JEFF left on his own but I personally don't buy it, oh and don't forget Regulation SHO kicked in on 9/24, an added bonus.
So what's the bottom line here? I believe the company fully intended on staggering the dividends out over time from the very beginning, but they couldn't because they needed to get rid of JEFF first, he was the major thorn in their side. Then by using a few strong arm tactics they convinced the other MM's who are short, that it would be in their best interest to clean up their act after they got rid of JEFF, and that's what they're doing now as evidenced by the increased volume. You could say the increased volume is due to someone dumping billions of shares into the market, and that would be a legitimate argument, and my response to that would be, how come the price isn't dropping? Now the MM's who are left are faced with a few waves of pain coming at them. First with the UCAD dividend on 10/6, then with the CIM dividend on 10/18, and then with the GEMM dividend(s) on 11/15, and possibly with as yet unannounced, an SGGM dividend to follow that, maybe by the end of November or mid December, continuous waves of pain is what I expected to see here. The MM's who are left are most likely facing some serious internal accountability issues as the waves of dividends are about to hit, and I believe Roger Glenn and the company were not willing to give them much rope to start getting their act together. Call it hardball tactics by Mr. Glenn, and the MM's can thank their old buddy JEFF for the situation they are in now. By staggering out the dividends the way they are now, the MM's who are left won't get crushed but they will experience some pretty significant pain, just enough to really get their attention. One could also argue that negotiating a deal with the MM's is market manipulation, but I don't buy that either in this case, especially as nobody is manipulating the stock price up or down.
We could say that the company really cares about the shareholders and that's why we're getting the dividends in the first place, I for one do believe that the company is showing more sincerity towards the shareholders than just about any other company on the Pink Sheets/OTC, but I don't believe that it's the only reason. I also believe they have staggered out the dividends to keep a reasonable amount of stability in the stock by keeping the retail shareholders in the stock while they complete their task of getting this company share structure cleaned up. It appears to me that we are seeing some masterfully strategic maneuvering happening here, orchestrated for the most part by Roger Glenn, and that's why attorney's such as himself make the big bucks. I fully believe we have turned what could be the most important corner here, and we are on our way, and this is why I believe a deal has been negotiated with the MM's any any other people who were involved in manipulating this stock. The shareholders will be rewarded for their patience when and only when the entire process is complete, when that is, is anybody's guess. But as I've said before, I believe we have turned the corner and there is now a bright light at the end of the tunnel. We all just have to be patient and let this thing play itself out, there's nothing else we can do but sit and wait.
So there you have it, you can either believe my theory or you don't have to, it is my speculation, and that's the story I'm sticking to at least as of today anyway, LOL!
Oh yes how well I know! I put the bashers on ignore over here and thier's hardly anyone to talk to! LOL!
Welcome back!
BBP!
Gump,
"Reports from competent and qualified professional mining people. Geologists for sure but when Randal starts talking about their mining operations and recovery plants I would like to hear it from a mining engineer with a respected 'ticket'
I beleive CMKX just hired a geologist. I'm not sure of his credentials but I can't imagine they didn't hire the best. This seems to be the only way Urban goes! Please remember this is an American stock so things must be done the American way.
You can be sure of one thing .. Urban is partnered up with Canadian companies controlled by Rick Walker and there is no way in a thousand years that Rick flies by the seat of his pants. That's why we are slow in getting updated drilling results from the F A L C. I'm getting kind of sick of this stuff that borders on con.
Can you explain what you mean by this statement? Are you saying Rick is a con artist and Urban is in on the scam?
Could it be the results will be released at the party? I think things are falling into place nicely with CMKX becoming a reporting company. Partners are still throwing money at us. Roger is still on board. I don't think Roger would be involved in a scam, do you? If you could elaberate on this last statement it would be much appreciated. I would still like to hear specific mining information that would let us all know how are investment stands with CMKX. It seems you just want official confirmation. I think that is coming with a reporting company.
BBP!
Welcome back DUSTY.We missed you bro! Come on over to Mach's board for some good intellectual discussions on CMKX and JV partners.
http://investorshub.com/boards/board.asp?board_id=2515
Dear Gump,
Could you please enlighten us investors as to what mining information we should be getting from CMKX/UCAD to your liking? You seem to want everyone to know how knowledgeable you are of the mining world. Could you please give us a hint as to what we are missing? I would be eternally grateful if you can give me information on mining that will make my investment here a profitable one
Well said and thank you!!!!
WELL GUMP........Get serious ... It"s your money!
Zen,
That was my point and I guess I did a bad job of conveying the message. He was only trying to add a realistic price and time frame to the future of these companies. It was stated in terms of value and its down the road. It wasn't done in the vain of time and price projection. Hence I stated he did not want to start rumors. He even said his company will never report on price and time lines. And that was not what he was trying to do. It was late and I was tired and I didn't word it correctly.
But its information. You can take it or leave it. I think what lead to this discussion was people were questioning his statement about a bear trap. He stated the number one goal was to get the MMs to just stop shorting the stock. I'll refer you to his article posted yesterday on the subject.
BBP!
PS.........Yes I definetly think Ed has more information about whats going on with CMKX. He is there at the races a lot and is doing lots of DD. We don't have that luxury. Its not insider information at all. I think he is presenting a crystal clear picture of the company with no hype. It would be a benefit for any shareholder to spend time with these people.
ZENMASTER........Just got back from Paltalk. I'm sure you saw the GREEN BARON report today. Well low and behold MR. GREEN BARON himself dropped in for a chat with us this evening.
It was interesting to hear someone talk who is close to all the big wigs. He didn't start any rumors or speculation. He answered questions honestly and did give some ideas as to what he thought might happen down the road. The first item here is that any company filing for a listing must go through to parts. Part 1 being the history of the company. and part 2 the financials. He said the history is DONE! Roger has that part done and he emphasized this is the part that takes the longest. Once this is submitted it can come back for questions to be answered. He stated that someone with Rogers clout will not have many questions to answer. Next he said the financials are easy. And CMKX has very little financials.
So he felt the listing was comimng very soon.
These next items I won't talk in detail and will emphasize The GREEN BARON repeated several times he did not want to start rumors and for us not to go crazy. He said he saw UCAD being a $30.00 stock in the future. That could be a year or two but thats what his company beleives will happen. He stated they will eventually wind up on the Nasdaq.
And lastly he said CMKX could hit .10 within a year possibly.
Much talk was made of the race experience and all the good people one will meet there. I think you said you had been to one?
I just wanted to send this info along to you as I read one of your latest post. Keep up the good work! Seems we won't be eating pop corn much longer!
BBP!
Nandi, It would be a pleasure!
RFL...........I didn't go elk hunting, that was from Willy!
Just thought it would shake you out of your depression! (WINK)
LOL! Com'on Zen you know we got a winner here! Maybe Urban will also have a softball sized diamond on display at the party. Of course it would be dug up as a CMKX sample
Wait, wait Gumps, You told everyone you are here for one thing only which you are certain of. Now what if that short is small? What will you do. You sure are not a long!
MMMMMMMMMMMmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
JUST IN FROM WILLY!!!!!!!
Below you will find a letter by an individual I deem worthy and trustful enough to send to my entire email lists. Elcamino is a fine individual with a background that is impeccable in my opinion. Please take you time and read what he wrote and read it very very closely.
Also I want to apologize for my absence the last two weeks. September is my annual Elk hunting trip but I am now home and back in the saddle once again. I know the information slowed but in no way think my upbeat feelings about CMKX has changed.
Thank you,
Hal Engel aka WillyWizard
Also my disclaimer and profile link is: http://willywizard.com/Profile-CMKX.htm
Profile is currently undergoing an update for last two weeks news.
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elcamunication, September 23, 2004 (Re-post, re-edited version)
As they say colloquially, the silence is deafening. We appear to be in a CMKX deprivation chamber void of information.
The biggest complaint right now from shareholders seems to be the lack of news to substantiate the rumors of cash dividends and a reason to 'celebrate' at the Las Vegas Shareholder’s Party. Only now, we are beginning to realize that there may not be a reason to celebrate as the company moves towards building the fundamental elements needed to become a fully reporting company that can then report on its assets and its value. It is certainly possible, since I am a man of hope to think that there may be a reason for going to Las Vegas. A reason obviously is not enough people need cash to get there. Whether we will have that cash available is hard for anyone to say. I will be there since Las Vegas is only a stone’s throw from California. I am still hoping to see as many of you there as possible.
As I see it, there is Old Business and New Business at work in CMKX. The old business revolves around “cleaning house” and removing the cobwebs from deals consummated two years ago by CMKX. Some of these deals required pay offs and others just simply were cancelled. I will not go through the long list of expected ventures from those days, but everyone can go back to those PR’s and check it out. I strongly believe that Mr. John Ed Dhonau from Nevada Minerals played and important role for CMKX shareholders in assisting Urban in getting out of some potentially bad deals at the time after he and Urban became acquainted with one another. Mr. Dhonau has an impeccable reputation in the business world. He does compliance enforcement for the SEC, and is held in high regard by both government and industry. We are fortunate to have him on our team.
After some discussions, I realized that the two-year restriction on many of the restricted shares held by the 9000 or so registered shareholders are due to mature. The process of accounting for these shares and determining who got them and who did not has taken some time. This was the topic of a past press release. I believe accountability of these shares is complete and the company had to determine whether to release the restrictions on them or not. With these restrictions lifted, the possibility of seeing these shares sold on the open market appeared to average shareholder as if the CMKX was selling shares. Most of the certificates are in Urban’s name held for the individuals. So anyone checking through a broker or market maker would be advised that this is the case. This selling off of shares is now complete.
On the other hand, the question of a naked short sell has been a topic of contention as well. Several people that I have spoken with including a market maker that I contacted by phone has confirmed the short. The question is just how large is the short position with CMKX. If anyone wants to really know, what I think about the short position then I will refer you to post # 59120 made by Oaks on August 4th in Sterling’s Classroom on Raging Bull. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=59120
I do not believe that we have an extremely large short but there is a short. In a nutshell when we see a filing I believe we may see a different share structure than what we have been previously led to believe.
Today we saw Jeffries and Company disappear from the Level 2 quotes and some shareholders have even called to confirm that they can no longer make a market for CMKX. It was just a matter of time. We will see how long this lasts and if in fact, it is what it is. As we have seen, the volume is low and it appears that availability of shares is becoming scarce. This just a couple of days before the UCAD dividend appear in our accounts. This is an indication that we are very close to seeing the Casavant Maneuver (Oaks) in all its glory. As I indicated at one point, the Casavant Maneuver is Specific, Pertinent, Applicable and Measurable. As it all comes together what I look forward to seeing is the measurable aspect of the maneuver. That is the point were we could begin to measure the results through an increase in the price per share.
Under Old Business, also have the CIM shares issued to shareholders a year ago. Those who were in CMKX back then will be coming up on their one-year anniversary with those shares shortly. It is my understanding that those shares have tremendous value and potential especially since those people will be receiving new shares of the CIM dividend in addition to what they received last year. If unrestricted when CIM goes public those shares will give value to those that have the extra shares. Reason enough to hang around and see where this all goes.
The New Business centers on new deals and new companies that we have yet to even imagine or speculate. As we saw recently the public emergence of St. George’s Metals Inc. left us all dumbfounded. No one knew anything about this company or that it was about to go public at the end of a 30 day quiet period. Well what if a quite period is still in effect awaiting the emergence of more deals and more companies. At this point, that is the most likely scenario as we draw closer to becoming a fully reporting company and our associations with Nevada Minerals and U. S. Canadian Minerals flourishes and grows stronger each day.
Today we received a press release concerning the delivery of the third $2.5M installment of the $10M dollar deal with SGGM. According to their IR person, Ms. Vicki Curran we will shortly see press releases enlightening us more about the company. I hope that it will also shed some light as to the relationship between the two companies.
We hear that we will be fully reporting by Christmas of 2004 and that momentum for 2005 is even better for this company with incredible potential. Many very intelligent shareholders that I have the pleasure of speaking with have speculated on some of these deals and it will be exciting to see how, when or if some of these scenarios will play out. For now we hold on to millions of acres of claims, core samples that have the potential to forensically tell a story about our future and the deliberate and methodical manner in which Urban Casavant, D. Roger Glen and John Ed Dhonau and even Rendall Williams orchestrate the finale to this opera which began two years ago.
The issues surrounding the increase in the authorized shares and the distribution multiple for CIM revealing a potential short or potential upcoming increase to almost 1.6 trillion shares is in my opinion a head fake as Urban runs to the end-zone. These multiples can change before the payout date of the dividend and may serve a purpose other than just letting us know how many shares we will receive. Since many have already postulated the share structure I will not bore you with the details but I will say that part of the Casavant Maneuver was to buffer the shock of the shareholders through the distribution of these dividends. When the 10QSB is filed, we will already be anesthetized, however, I also believe that we will be extremely surprised at what we see in the report in regards to structure and valuation.
As many of you know, I do my best not to speculate but prefer to analyze factual data and put together information that I have heard or know to be fact. Many of the issues that I address in this post originate from conversations and inferences made to me by many.
I have heard Urban espouse his love for racing to many shareholders at the races and have heard him tell them that he personally has funded these races and not CMKX. In addition, Urban has personally been funding day-to-day operations until joint venture deals and cash began to funnel into CMKX through the many deals that we are now seeing. There is no auditor that I know of who can argue that a company that has cash on the balance sheet is not a solvent company. We are solvent and a very viable business concern. Now we need to produce earnings. Part of the new business that we have yet to be made aware of which includes core sample results, audit results, a 10QSB and framework denoting the plan for the future. I hope that this framework will reflect mineral claims that may be sold to other competent agencies and more joint ventures with prominent companies in the FALC area including long-term plans for mining operations.
At some point soon, we can expect CMKX to be fully reporting; our CEO to do a state of the union style address to the shareholders and see the beginning of a legacy materialize right before our eyes.
I encourage you all to sit tight and wait out the storm we are in the eye of the Perfect Storm (Sterling) and soon the whirlwind will carry us off to profits and reasons for celebration. The time draws nigh, the market makers and any devious individuals suspected of trying to do us in are facing their demise. House cleaning is complete and new deals are on the way.
This all appears complicated but is in fact marvelous in its simplicity. Do not think too deeply into it and keep things basic and fundamental. As I indicated in my Canadian trip report, it is Business 101.
My Best to all and God Bless
elcamino
The time has arrived!!!
http://willywizard.com
The Trend is Your Friend
Owly...If you think because you put money in a stock they OWE you, you are sadly mistaken. If investors were owed anything and didn't get it you would see a kazillion law suites daily. Sorry my friend it just doesn't work that way. And I've never knocked CMKX, Urban, Melvie, The party or the KIA my friend. You need to relax and like Dan Rather check your sources!
(WINK) BBP!
Zen, I just got this from Willy! I read it and thought. What if Urban is using this party as his forum to announce we are a public reporting company and releases a valuation that would knock our socks off. Makes since for a party doesn't it! And wouldn't we all want to be there to celebrate?
Read on!
Below you will find a letter by an individual I deem worthy and trustful enough to send to my entire email lists. Elcamino is a fine individual with a background that is impeccable in my opinion. Please take you time and read what he wrote and read it very very closely.
Also I want to apologize for my absence the last two weeks. September is my annual Elk hunting trip but I am now home and back in the saddle once again. I know the information slowed but in no way think my upbeat feelings about CMKX has changed.
Thank you,
Hal Engel aka WillyWizard
Also my disclaimer and profile link is: http://willywizard.com/Profile-CMKX.htm
Profile is currently undergoing an update for last two weeks news.
________________________________
elcamunication, September 23, 2004 (Re-post, re-edited version)
As they say colloquially, the silence is deafening. We appear to be in a CMKX deprivation chamber void of information.
The biggest complaint right now from shareholders seems to be the lack of news to substantiate the rumors of cash dividends and a reason to 'celebrate' at the Las Vegas Shareholder’s Party. Only now, we are beginning to realize that there may not be a reason to celebrate as the company moves towards building the fundamental elements needed to become a fully reporting company that can then report on its assets and its value. It is certainly possible, since I am a man of hope to think that there may be a reason for going to Las Vegas. A reason obviously is not enough people need cash to get there. Whether we will have that cash available is hard for anyone to say. I will be there since Las Vegas is only a stone’s throw from California. I am still hoping to see as many of you there as possible.
As I see it, there is Old Business and New Business at work in CMKX. The old business revolves around “cleaning house” and removing the cobwebs from deals consummated two years ago by CMKX. Some of these deals required pay offs and others just simply were cancelled. I will not go through the long list of expected ventures from those days, but everyone can go back to those PR’s and check it out. I strongly believe that Mr. John Ed Dhonau from Nevada Minerals played and important role for CMKX shareholders in assisting Urban in getting out of some potentially bad deals at the time after he and Urban became acquainted with one another. Mr. Dhonau has an impeccable reputation in the business world. He does compliance enforcement for the SEC, and is held in high regard by both government and industry. We are fortunate to have him on our team.
After some discussions, I realized that the two-year restriction on many of the restricted shares held by the 9000 or so registered shareholders are due to mature. The process of accounting for these shares and determining who got them and who did not has taken some time. This was the topic of a past press release. I believe accountability of these shares is complete and the company had to determine whether to release the restrictions on them or not. With these restrictions lifted, the possibility of seeing these shares sold on the open market appeared to average shareholder as if the CMKX was selling shares. Most of the certificates are in Urban’s name held for the individuals. So anyone checking through a broker or market maker would be advised that this is the case. This selling off of shares is now complete.
On the other hand, the question of a naked short sell has been a topic of contention as well. Several people that I have spoken with including a market maker that I contacted by phone has confirmed the short. The question is just how large is the short position with CMKX. If anyone wants to really know, what I think about the short position then I will refer you to post # 59120 made by Oaks on August 4th in Sterling’s Classroom on Raging Bull. http://www.ragingbull.lycos.com/mboard/boards.cgi?board=CLB01219&read=59120
I do not believe that we have an extremely large short but there is a short. In a nutshell when we see a filing I believe we may see a different share structure than what we have been previously led to believe.
Today we saw Jeffries and Company disappear from the Level 2 quotes and some shareholders have even called to confirm that they can no longer make a market for CMKX. It was just a matter of time. We will see how long this lasts and if in fact, it is what it is. As we have seen, the volume is low and it appears that availability of shares is becoming scarce. This just a couple of days before the UCAD dividend appear in our accounts. This is an indication that we are very close to seeing the Casavant Maneuver (Oaks) in all its glory. As I indicated at one point, the Casavant Maneuver is Specific, Pertinent, Applicable and Measurable. As it all comes together what I look forward to seeing is the measurable aspect of the maneuver. That is the point were we could begin to measure the results through an increase in the price per share.
Under Old Business, also have the CIM shares issued to shareholders a year ago. Those who were in CMKX back then will be coming up on their one-year anniversary with those shares shortly. It is my understanding that those shares have tremendous value and potential especially since those people will be receiving new shares of the CIM dividend in addition to what they received last year. If unrestricted when CIM goes public those shares will give value to those that have the extra shares. Reason enough to hang around and see where this all goes.
The New Business centers on new deals and new companies that we have yet to even imagine or speculate. As we saw recently the public emergence of St. George’s Metals Inc. left us all dumbfounded. No one knew anything about this company or that it was about to go public at the end of a 30 day quiet period. Well what if a quite period is still in effect awaiting the emergence of more deals and more companies. At this point, that is the most likely scenario as we draw closer to becoming a fully reporting company and our associations with Nevada Minerals and U. S. Canadian Minerals flourishes and grows stronger each day.
Today we received a press release concerning the delivery of the third $2.5M installment of the $10M dollar deal with SGGM. According to their IR person, Ms. Vicki Curran we will shortly see press releases enlightening us more about the company. I hope that it will also shed some light as to the relationship between the two companies.
We hear that we will be fully reporting by Christmas of 2004 and that momentum for 2005 is even better for this company with incredible potential. Many very intelligent shareholders that I have the pleasure of speaking with have speculated on some of these deals and it will be exciting to see how, when or if some of these scenarios will play out. For now we hold on to millions of acres of claims, core samples that have the potential to forensically tell a story about our future and the deliberate and methodical manner in which Urban Casavant, D. Roger Glen and John Ed Dhonau and even Rendall Williams orchestrate the finale to this opera which began two years ago.
The issues surrounding the increase in the authorized shares and the distribution multiple for CIM revealing a potential short or potential upcoming increase to almost 1.6 trillion shares is in my opinion a head fake as Urban runs to the end-zone. These multiples can change before the payout date of the dividend and may serve a purpose other than just letting us know how many shares we will receive. Since many have already postulated the share structure I will not bore you with the details but I will say that part of the Casavant Maneuver was to buffer the shock of the shareholders through the distribution of these dividends. When the 10QSB is filed, we will already be anesthetized, however, I also believe that we will be extremely surprised at what we see in the report in regards to structure and valuation.
As many of you know, I do my best not to speculate but prefer to analyze factual data and put together information that I have heard or know to be fact. Many of the issues that I address in this post originate from conversations and inferences made to me by many.
I have heard Urban espouse his love for racing to many shareholders at the races and have heard him tell them that he personally has funded these races and not CMKX. In addition, Urban has personally been funding day-to-day operations until joint venture deals and cash began to funnel into CMKX through the many deals that we are now seeing. There is no auditor that I know of who can argue that a company that has cash on the balance sheet is not a solvent company. We are solvent and a very viable business concern. Now we need to produce earnings. Part of the new business that we have yet to be made aware of which includes core sample results, audit results, a 10QSB and framework denoting the plan for the future. I hope that this framework will reflect mineral claims that may be sold to other competent agencies and more joint ventures with prominent companies in the FALC area including long-term plans for mining operations.
At some point soon, we can expect CMKX to be fully reporting; our CEO to do a state of the union style address to the shareholders and see the beginning of a legacy materialize right before our eyes.
I encourage you all to sit tight and wait out the storm we are in the eye of the Perfect Storm (Sterling) and soon the whirlwind will carry us off to profits and reasons for celebration. The time draws nigh, the market makers and any devious individuals suspected of trying to do us in are facing their demise. House cleaning is complete and new deals are on the way.
This all appears complicated but is in fact marvelous in its simplicity. Do not think too deeply into it and keep things basic and fundamental. As I indicated in my Canadian trip report, it is Business 101.
My Best to all and God Bless
elcamino
The time has arrived!!!
http://willywizard.com
The Trend is Your Friend
Nandi,
A very delightfull post. You hit the nail on the head from my prespective. Even the big board stocks won't give shareholders the time of day. CMKX owes us nothing, zip, zero!
I suspect while Zen is a highly intelligent individual I'd like to know his age. He does seem a little short in the patients department. Well maybe we all are, were just not condeming Urban for it.
Bottom line, this is a PINK stock and this is many peoples first time in a pink. Can't expect to much from them.
If everyone would go back and look at the DD they did to get into CMKX, I think they would find its still there and much more. I feel we all made the correct decision to buy. But we must wait till things fall into place. It could be taking more time than anticipated. Or their are a few bumps in the road. This is all taking place behind the scene. We aren't privvy to that info so we will just have to wait it out.
Zen is good but some of his lastest post show a touch of inmaturity. Sure we would all like to twist Urbans arm and get him to give it up. And I don't care what some have said about the KIA. I have seen the new ones and they are nice vehicles. I'll take one if Urban wants to give me one!
So the bottom line is we must wait, wait, wait, wait, and wait. Zen pass the popcorn please!
Message from another board.
We are seeing what I expected we would see in the market place on
CMKX if the MM's truly had an extremely large NSS position. Too,
there is every indication right now that CMKX has been advised to be
completely silent for a period of time. By whom? We can only
speculate, but I would say the advice came through Roger Glenn and
his communications with the SEC about our securities problem with
the NSS position. I do not see the SEC or anyone else putting a gag
order on CMKX saying you can't report the SGGM monies that just came
into the company nor do I see them officially being told to not
mention that they are a part of the Vegas Party. What is suprising
that UCAD doesn't mention CMKX in their PR about the party. I can
see CMKX being silent, but for another company (UCAD) to not mention
CMKX on a joint venture PARTY in Vegas is just plain weird. I willl
not speculate on the possibilities that stimulates in my mind at
this time.
I have to agree with Zen that CRWN is run by the brother of he that
runs JEFF. I believe they are in so deep that they will have to
continue to short, even at these levels, through the October 1st
dividend. The downward pressure they are generating is easily seen
through the above 90% retail buys showing that the sells are coming
from the MM's and not you and I. In an even or clear trading market
for CMKX we would have a near perfect percentage balance.
This is a major gamble on the part of the MM's, but they are
believing that the downward pressure will be too much for investors
after the dividends go through. Ater Oct 2, the MM's expect the weak
handed investors to begin selling their positions which could easily
be near 100 billion or more and unfortunately it looks like they
will possibly get them to do just that. It doesn't take long reading
the posts around some of the boards to see how vulnerable a lot of
investors are at this point.
All in all we are going to see this down pressure for another 1 - 2
weeks or until we announce being fully reporting. With current
developments inside CMKX no one can really guess accurately what
news is going to come out next. We have our hopes and dreams, but
until it officially comes out, that is all they are. When the air
clears and CMKX is unveiled we will all be pleased in my opinion.
Keep the faith. The answers to the questions that many have are
coming forth very soon.
Be well
Dr.D
___________________________________________________________________
comments by canuck, board owner
I, as many, hoped to see a run prior to dividend record dates
resulting from MM covering. However the run would have been short
lived as many would have sold and the PPS would eventually have slid
back to current levels.
DrDiamond, I believe you may be correct in the suggestion that the
MMs may be gambling on the lack of patience of shareholders. Many
people on this board have commented that Oct 1st, or shortly
thereafter will be the day of reckoning and may sell if nothing
*happens* by then. This is exactly what the MMs want and selling
will be playing right into their hands.
I also found it interesting that CMKX was not mentioned in the
shareholder party and that struck a lot of nerves with people. These
same people seem to forget that that to be eligible for the Kia draw
you must purchase a CMKX Visa card. To me this speaks volumes of
CMKX's relationship with UCAD and how deep the relationship is
between the companies. IMO these two companies are all but merged.
They may not be merged on paper, but I think they work very close
together.
We have to be patient and hang on to our shares. This helps Urban
and Roger defeat the short position. By selling and allowing the MMs
to cover will only negate any effort by Urban and Roger to expose
and eliminate this illegal practice. The shorting will continue and
the MMs will be laughing all the way to the bank.
No I wish I did know them, what a treat that would be.
Other than losing our fences and three trees and of course all our coconuts. So now it seems we may get yet another one.
I'm sick of hurricanes!
EXACTLY!
Yes thats was a good post, thanks. i don't know if you heard but he is in a coma after heart surgery! We will miss him when its time. He is one of a kind!
BBP!
This is mine BBP!
The following details are for the spin-offs taking place in
CMKX:
UCAD will have a stock factor of .000009.
The record date is 8/20/04.
The payable date is 9/24/04.
CIM will have a stock factor of .0256
The record date is 8/31/04.
The payable date is 10/10/04.
Respectfully,
Michael Lamantia
Purchases & Sales
Track Data Securities Corp.
michael_lamantia@trackdata.com
p 718.923.3007
GOD BLESS RODNEY!!!!!
As so many components of this stock seem to be time sensitive, could it be that JEFF quite today to let her run? Was he keeping her down till the right moment? We shall see! Pass the popcorn!
GOD BLESS RODNEY! BBP!