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Thanks Mahastock That looked interesting. 3 way partnerships. Almost sounds like a business plan doesn't it?
Stakddek
Nice find alo_h:
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A particular focus, according to the NIH, will be the construction of haplotypes for pharmacogenetic prediction.
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It seems that they are accepting applications for studies in the neighborhood that DNAP is the sharpest knife. Now when NIH can finally get thier act together, DNAP will be selling product based on completed studies. Not a prediction, but simply a hopeful thought based on a limited understanding of some very complex issues. (WAG).
If nothing else, the pharmacoGENETIC word is very important, at least to my eyes.
Stakddek
SARS still a problem: Repost
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OT: Sars is still an issue. Scientists isolated similar viruses
in animals which are still sold on chinese markets. Hope we don´t need a new outbreak to sell the filters
Isolation and Characterization of Viruses Related to the SARS Coronavirus from Animals in Southern China
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. Guan 1*, B. J. Zheng 1, Y. Q. He 2, X. L. Liu 2, Z. X. Zhuang 2, C. L. Cheung 1, S. W. Luo 1, P. H. Li 1, L. J. Zhang 1, Y. J. Guan 1, K. M. Butt 1, K. L. Wong 1, K. W. Chan 3, W. Lim 4, K. F. Shortridge 1, K. Y. Yuen 1, J. S. M. Peiris 1, L. L. M. Poon 1
1 Department of Microbiology, The University of Hong Kong, University Pathology Building, Queen Mary Hospital, Hong Kong SAR, P.R. China.
2 Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, P.R. China.
3 Department of Pathology, The University of Hong Kong, University Pathology Building, Queen Mary Hospital, Hong Kong SAR, P.R. China.
4 Government Virus Unit, Department of Health, Hong Kong SAR, P.R. China.
* To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: yguan@hkucc.hku.hk.
A novel coronavirus (SCoV) is the etiological agent of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. SCoV-like viruses were isolated from Himalayan palm civets found in a live animal market in Guangdong, China. Evidence of virus infection was also detected in other animal, including a raccoon-dog, and in humans working at the same market. All the animal isolates retain a 29-nucleotide sequence, which is not found in most human isolates. The detection of SCoV-like viruses in small wild mammals in live retail market indicates a route of interspecies transmission, although the natural reservoir is not known.
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SARS still a problem: Repost fro RB Thanks Catani:
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OT: Sars is still an issue. Scientists isolated similar viruses
in animals which are still sold on chinese markets. Hope we don´t need a new outbreak to sell the filters
Isolation and Characterization of Viruses Related to the SARS Coronavirus from Animals in Southern China
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. Guan 1*, B. J. Zheng 1, Y. Q. He 2, X. L. Liu 2, Z. X. Zhuang 2, C. L. Cheung 1, S. W. Luo 1, P. H. Li 1, L. J. Zhang 1, Y. J. Guan 1, K. M. Butt 1, K. L. Wong 1, K. W. Chan 3, W. Lim 4, K. F. Shortridge 1, K. Y. Yuen 1, J. S. M. Peiris 1, L. L. M. Poon 1
1 Department of Microbiology, The University of Hong Kong, University Pathology Building, Queen Mary Hospital, Hong Kong SAR, P.R. China.
2 Center for Disease Control and Prevention, Shenzhen, Guangdong Province, P.R. China.
3 Department of Pathology, The University of Hong Kong, University Pathology Building, Queen Mary Hospital, Hong Kong SAR, P.R. China.
4 Government Virus Unit, Department of Health, Hong Kong SAR, P.R. China.
* To whom correspondence should be addressed. E-mail: yguan@hkucc.hku.hk.
A novel coronavirus (SCoV) is the etiological agent of the Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome. SCoV-like viruses were isolated from Himalayan palm civets found in a live animal market in Guangdong, China. Evidence of virus infection was also detected in other animal, including a raccoon-dog, and in humans working at the same market. All the animal isolates retain a 29-nucleotide sequence, which is not found in most human isolates. The detection of SCoV-like viruses in small wild mammals in live retail market indicates a route of interspecies transmission, although the natural reservoir is not known.
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PS RB wouldn't post this. Last message by a Lizard!
DArn. Blew a lenghty missive. Can we (means I suggest and one of you do the work) create a Kartoo like organizational chart for DNAP? We have many alliances, and recalling all the global ties is getting beyond my feeble capacity.
We are tied to the company that has the FDA approved test
specimen collection kits.
We are tied to GMED with perhaps a gentlemans agreement.
There was no law suit. Friendly parting.
We are tied to Orch, and now that they are actively
recovering, we may see some activity there.
We are tied to that first part-timer Dr. Shriver, who
continues consulting with DNAP.
We are tied to DNAPro, (I haven't seen any PR about
dissolution, or any activity for that matter.)
University study Groups: NYU? - Florida?
We appear to be doing things in England, Malaysia, Australia,
and we are on the German stock exchange.
We are working with Nanogen.
We don't know if we are tied to or otherwise involved with
DNAPhenomics in Malaysia.
We are working with various Police Labs and National
advisory boards.
Okay so I've cited some associations I can recall from my limited memory. I hope it can be used as a framework for a "Link Chest" that would allow quick coupling to the appropriate web pages.
Another thought I had re: ORCH. Doctor Frudakis wrote in the newsletter that ORCH was to busy with survival to proceed on any activities involving DNAP. At the later shareholders meeting (which I did not attend) Mr. Gabriel curtly dismissed discussion of the relationship with his remarks. Did he do this because he was annoyed about the opportunity falling through? Did he do it because the Orch management had messed up Orch and some DNAP plans along with the damage done to ORCH? Was the tone of the statement harsh enough to curtail further questions, and might that have been the intent?
Part time Management: I guess the menagerie over in the RB barnyard never had a management position. 24/7 and then some. Especially with time zone differences. Cheesz. California is 3 hours removed from Florida right? That's almost like a different day!
The number of employees at DNAP has varied, but Carrie has always been there. I consider her an employee. Doctor Frudakis is the Chief Scientific Officer. Mister Gabriel is the CEO. Are they all considered employees? Are independent contractors considered employees?
I've been both an employee and in management. I always gave 110% or more in all cases. I feel from the reports back by the posters who have visited DNAP and those who have met with Doctor Frudakis, that everyone has his or her shoulder to the grindstone and is pushing as hard as they can.
Goodnight to all.
A special thank you to Rodger the Swiss, enjoyed the yodel! Your effort in maintaining the due dilligence base that you have provided is a shining example of the exemplary spirit that is shared by many of us here, who contribute as they can, what they can, when they can. And you do it in high heels!
Hillary said it takes a village, but then that's how they got Frankenstein.
Stakddek
OT: Okay no tatoos. Stern is not listened to by me. I agree with frog that the demographics of the audience are not the same listeners who read the wall street journal or the NY times. That said, these people do buy Lottery tickets. I think they stand a better chance of winning with DNAP. They're hearing the media "hype" a recovery, and they hear the markert is climbing. And they saw that thing on TV about the killer -- . These aren't savvy investors, but they are investors. Takes them a little time to get the ducks in a row to get onboard. Call brother-n -law etc.
On Howard Stern: I despise the idea that what is mostly drek is considered entertainment. I feel it is regrettable that in the search for ratings and revenue, some broadcasters didn't have gumption to say this is garbage and shouldn't be foisted on the public as entertainment. Part of the dumbing down of America, and giving Stern a forum to allow a congregation of- of - oh well, of his listeners, is to reinforce the insensitivity and crassness that he exhudes. I find it regretable that his radio program is on the public airwaves. Media was promoted as being for the good of the public. I personally feel that Stern is only good for the corporation that abets him and he is the poster child for fomenting views that are just plain antisocial, vulgar and ill-mannered. His continued presense on the public airwaves only cause's a certain reinforcement to the lowest common denominator mores. He' sort of a "Moral Limbo". How low can you go?
Stakddek
WE CAN GET THEM REDONE? I just a been rubbin' em off with sandpaper. Hot Darn!
Stakddek
Thanks Spas: Keep "em coming. Had hoped Stern exposure would perk the pps, perhaps Joe listener needs a little while to talk it over with the wife and transfer a little moolah to the account to pick up his 5000 shares. He couldn't ask for a better time to jump in. Probably won't see any move, if any from Stern exposure until Friday afternoon. Now when does DNAP release news? Could be the igniter for your next wave is starting to smoke. I would like to see it soon. converted the last of my cash to shares this morning, hoping for some run-up from the Stern exposure but, oh well. Nothing else I'm holding waiting for a move to start is moving either, and everything I hold that is moving is to good to let go!
Stakddek
Ann441J: Thanks for the heads up on Jeeves. I've been using Google and Kartoo, sometimes Metacrawler and Dogpile. Next time I search for info I'll be sure to add Jeeves to the lineup. It's getting to the point where it's time for me to put all those captured links in one place, so I can revisit without going back into my history. Just sometimes I find the computer can hold all the folders and all the links. but I can't remember what some of them are for! Thanks for the report that Jeeves is finding different material. I never will but I always wanted to know it all!
Stakddek
***** Speak of the Devil *****
Just picked this up from another poster on the CLSI board at RB.
http://www.findarticles.com/cf_0/PI/search.jhtml?magR=all+magazines&key=%22DNAPrint%22
After you go there you can blank the search line and then bookmark it. Not too shabby!
Stakddek
Arch, In your sweetest kindest, why don't you give Dr. Kim a heads up about DNAprint. If it's an ABC affiliate, just the links to the ABC coverage should do it. Education is a lifetime commitment!
Stakddek
Translation of previous message:
http://www.af.mil/news/factsheets/pictures/b_52.jpg
Well Arch, I hope we won't be down here in suspense long. Sounds like you called Tac from Lantern. Can't wait for the rolling thunder. Out of the East hah?
Stakddek. Dug in and waiting
OhioBuckeye: Attempts at besmirching the company rarely warrant an e-mail to confirm what is evident from the content of the post, and the reputation of the poster. I don't think it's necessary to question the company on every bit of negative propaganda that we come across. If it would make you feel more comfortable, please contact DNAP via e-mail or telephone and ask the question. Perhaps if phrased as the poster doubloon put it, "2 or 3 holders of 60% of the float are ..." you may get a no. Or a no comment. But please don't put my name with the question. I feel the matter is a ploy and any further attention to it is furthering the ploy.
This is still penny stock land and some people believe that by posting rumors they may be able, or are able to effect the price of the stock targeted. Ask yourself, is the source credible, and is the material postulated credible? A simple reflection on the statement "2 or 3 who own 60% of the float" is the answer to your question.
Stakddek
On the breast cancer front:
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_815254.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery
Stakddek
Hi Slopster: Thank you for heads up on doubloon. It was a poorly formulated thrash message and it's just good to hear that the source is one of our typical dumpers. Thanks for the "bio" on doubloon.
Stakddek
MJAM: Yeah it is of course one of those posts that comes out of nowhere. I just happened across it. It would be nice to find out who "doubloon" credits with the source of his rumor. I was just taken aback by the 60% of the float remark. I could almost believe that TBF would be selling 60% of what they still held, but even if they sold all they held that would not be 60%. And if TBF did sell all the shares they hold or can buy from DNAP that would be a big plus in my book. Of course conjecture on a rumor is wasted effort and lets hope this feeble attempt at manipulation dies by dawn. The post by itself contains no info of value, but the fact that this kind of post is "planted" speaks volumes for the current state of the market. What was the volume last week? Oh yeah, under a million shares.
Stakddek
Tony Tox was busy on the GMED board today. After his last posts this one appeared:
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DNAP big three set for sell off????
Two of the three major shareholders of DNAP may be ready to get out of that stock, Has anyone heard that rumor? If that happens that will represent about 60% of the float, and the dnap float is huge!!! Too bad really alot of people will go down with that stock when it tanks.
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So here we have someome who follows gmed posting on GMED board about DNAP. Pretty scary stuff right? Well let's see. Who are the major shareholders of DNAP? He doesn't name them, but he says they are 60% of the float. He says there are two or three. So two or three who control 60% of the float. That brings to mind Doctor Frudakis and his father. Now I don't know anyone else who owns 60% of the float in two or three hands.
So doubloon is asking if you've heard this rumor. Well now that he has posted it, I guess you have! So the question I pose to all is really why was this rumor message posted? And on the GMED board? Could it be the start of a significant FUD campaign? Could it be a last ditch effort to loosen weak sisters before news that would be beneficial to DNAP? I can see no purpose served by this posting on such a limited venue than to instill fear doubt and uncertainty. I don't think the figures represented in the post make sense, and I am left with the feeling this is just a slow news (Labor Day) ploy to free up some shares by someone who wants to accumulate.
Any further reflection on this??
Stakddek
Pavel: My post was swab in cheek. I was just being flippant. Wasn't trying to criticize you for the LOL comment. We've had some posters, notably on RB, who would jump all over anyone for what they considered specious statements. If Doctor Frudakis and his father ran a restaurant it would be a loss to the culinary community that they turned thier attentions to medicine. Like you I'm glad they did. Sorry if I put you off with my poor attempt at humor. I didn't intend to offend.
Stakddek
OT: Pavel: Can you cite your source for your statement re: Burger Flipping? Unless you have an authorative source such conjecture based on the limited information at hand is rumormongering and potentially scandalous. This matter will be of great concern to certain denizens of the boards and I'm sure more will be made of your blatant assumption. Your coarse treatment of this sensitive subject will weigh heavy on the minds of all investors in DNAP. Perhaps you can redeem yourself by contacting all the burger joints in all the world and see if Doctor Frudakis was ever not so employed?
Stakddek
Great Find Ming: Let's hope they go to the source next year. Better yet they have the conference in Sarasota!
Stakddek
Well it's a slow night, so here's a link to comment on:
http://www.dnaprint.com/pr_asian.html
Now it's kind of old, but perhaps it is worth reviewing. Again.
Stakddek
Big Drive: Thank you for stirring the mud. I think harmful is such a harsh word. You know like died for sucumbed. Actually the concept was to help choose the right treatment path. Conversely as you termed it, not choosing the right path does harm. Proof is in the pudding, so until test results are signed sealed and delivered, no patients will be harmed, or saved by the DNAP technology. Yeah, that's right. If DNAP indicates an alternate regime and the patient dies, well who is to blame? I guess that's why they have all those "informed consent forms" and doctors still practice.
Thanks for defragging my virtual memory
Stakddek
Cowboyd: Late night got me. The sentence you referred to should have concluded --Dnap is not a treatment, but a predictor that can do NO harm"-- and I of course should have stipulated in any clinical trial.
The use of gathered samples from existing holders of specimens of known outcomes could be presented to DNAP much the same way as the Witness process is run, A Blind Study.
The value of the test will have to be ascertained from such a series of studies. "Do no harm" would dictate that you use the best treatment, and without a predictor for it's sucess, you use the best treatment. If you find out from your experience that the best treatment is "gold" in 80% of the cases, You only lose 20 out of 100. If a study utilizing blind samples indicates that these patients would not respond to the gold treatment, you use the whayever is your alternate treatment regime, because it is the best or gold treatment for them. You now have two gold treatment methods, and you know which to apply before starting down the wrong road. Can you save all the 20% who are response limited to Gold-1 with gold-2. Probably a few, and many more than if they underwent gold1.
I don't think the economics of the treatment- testing are a bug-a-boo as the continued cost of care in a terminal case are probably higher (short-term) than a recovery beyond five years. Granted for a health care system, any recovered patient is a drain on resources ($$$) because extensive follow-ups are required, but that is spread over a greater time span. I really just proposed that a test could be undertaken where there would be no patient harm. Yep always be those coulda' woulda' shoulda' thoughts, but DNAP wasn't there then. Even to test all patients in this position, if you started today, and checked results in one year, I think everyone would want to know if this did work. Now what I proposed using historical samples, would speed the trial period because the only time involves is in the testing of samples, and not patient suffering. I guess the humanist in me rears it's childlike head occassionally and I gloriously live in that perfect world for a few seconds -- and then I read some of my fellow posters and -- well I'm brought back to reality. I guess it's all in how you sell it, and if the people in the management of DNAP are up to snuff, they will. A little coddling, a little guilt trip, a little ego massage, we all respond to a salesman, and all it takes is a bit of predisposition on the customers part and you can sell snow to Eskimos, or sand to Arabs if you are experienced and respected.
Hope I cleared that up. So much to say and fingers get tired.
Stakddek
Cowboyd: Any thoughts on the non-intrusive DNAP test being administered to all patients and then the results held until after the conclusion of treatment. Dnap is not a treatment, but a predictor that can do harm. If the prediction can be tested in a blind study, at some point in time given a very high percentage of accuracy, it becomes a necessary tool. I think the very fact that the test is non-invasive and a sample collected can be even from a group of patients from years ago in what would be a blind trial, well would anything really hold back such a trial other than the costs of the tests?
Stakddek
Hey Chris, on your what if-- I think the question may be who is approached. The other factor is that in the cases that are not impacted by the TAXOL regime, there are alternate treatments, THAT IF started early enough can be beneficial. If the ability exists to determine that a regime will not be effective, and you decide to use that regime anyway, and the patient loses the battle, you have definitely opened yourself up to major medical malpractice. Now I'm not familiar with this area, (Thank heaven) and I hope I never do gain any familiarity, but if I was the practioner who was aware of the science, and I averaged three non responsives a year who succumbed, I'd like to save three extra next year and damn the cost. When you have a chance for life you take it. Doctors know that some patients don't responfd to some treatments. They find out after the fact. (Medical practice right?) Now here comes Doctor Frudakis with a way to make treatment more effective and lose less patients. Okay the salesman for taxol may be annoyed that not all the patients are on his drug. He may smile a little bit though when they tell him that after 12 months of prescreening they have increased his medicines sucess rate by 25%. (guessing at figure). Acceptance is a long hard road, but the test can be given as a trial with no harm to the patient. After a year, when the diagnostic value is proven, Would you ever consider prescribing the wrong treatment for a patient? Now they see the non responsives after how long? Well I'm afraid the answer in some cases is "after it's too late." I'm not the guy who has to face the family and say "I'm sorry". Could you even imagine doing that if you had known beforehand that the treatment you prescribed was the wrong regime?
No Chris, I think the problem you cite will occur. But there is some Doc out there who is already a believer, and he'll tell others. Word of mouth you know. Will the Taxol people like it? If they play the cards right, they'll love it. Look how effective we are when the patient is prescreened. We saved 5% more people when we went to this DNA screening. Now our drug is twice as effective across all cases. Hoorah?
It's not the cards your dealt, it's how you play 'em.
Now imagine 60 Minutes doing a story on how big pharma "kills" patients by forcing the wrong treatment on them...
Stakddek
Spastic thanks for the offer but I am sorta' cautious about "private" interplay about company doings. Not that I don't appreciate your offer. Now if the 2meg file is general info about stock charting and theory thats cool, but if it's an analysis of trends re. DNAP I would be feeling bad if I used private info to my advantage. And quite frankly, I have a bugger of a time dealing with my own hobbies and work to undertake a new and time consuming learning process. Your posting of charts and opinions here for all to see creates a level playing field and is welcome. Private clubs and such are nice, but when focused on one particulasr stock the group can become myopic to the nth degree. Perhaps good perhaps bad, but I'm not a joiner, and unfortunately your kind offer to educate me is a wasted effort given the densness of the recipient and the complexity of the art. Sending dual messages here, A thank you for caring and a warning about associations you can come to regret. Keep up the good work by posting the charts here, but for us "dennces" please keep up the commentary.
Thanks,
Stakddek
Thank you Spas, the bones rolled well. I believe if your tutellage has had any chance of sticking to a troubled mind, that an accension from this level is not going to be a miracle but a result of market forces. The market forces you track also indicate a new base forming somewhere over the current base. Have I got that "somewhere" close to the bullseye"? I have not studied these methods of divination that you practice, but I am always willing to learn a new art or how to employ the practioners if it will benefit me.
Thanks for sharing.
Stakddek
Yup: The road ahead looks better than the road behind. Hopefully we carry with us the lessons of the past and even though we know "Here there be Dragons" we will sail on. I guess we can look to the future while our rearguard covers our past. There is nothing wrong with getting hit with a few cheap shots if you stand backup and continue the fight. DNAP has to look ahead with those lessons of the past buried but not forgotten. Wouldn't want to make them again. Not everyone is a nice guy, and we've definitely met some of them. When you dance with the devil, you pay the piper. At least we haven't sold our souls, but we are still are obligated to some of those early associations. But the clock is on them, and DNAP treks ahead. Are we bigger and stronger and wiser than two years ago? I think so.
Stakddek
MJAM: Very Interesting. Now what ifs? Rather than a simple discount, how 'bout average share price for days trading?
Would seem someone is loading or unloading the applecart without making to much sauce?
I would consider a controlled transfer of shares at a prescribed fixed rate to be a negotiated trade for ? umptysquat" shares. Have you totalled the numbers? If this is an internal DNAP movement as shares to new management or Doctor Frufdakis moving shares into market for averaging to avcid appearance of dumping into good news? Obvious to avoid legal entanglements from saying "We're gold!" and selling 10 million into the rise. Slow and steady, and continued finance of operations? I can't know because I'm not in DNAP as an insider and I have to conjecture (thats GUESS) and ask for other investors to join in guessing as well. Perhaps someone can guess in the right direction.
Stakddek, letting the cards fall as they may. (Sure wish I could cut those suckers for us!)
Check Arch. It is a strong possibility that the -type- kind- and nature- of the testing performed as a subcontractor is a baby step on the road to full accreditation as a forensic center. If you will, this could be a test case. Remember that the Crime Lab accredittation required certain criteria to be met. "Like the sep. room to review results". I believe DNAp has all the wherewithall to fulfill the other requirements, they just needed the carpenter to build a "review room" Personal gloat. Was to be busy this morning so I entered a buy on Sunday. It was filled Sunday. But I haven't got the confirm yet! I was very happy when the news came out this morning, and I will be even happier when the confirm is printed out! Didn't know my RJT account traded "after hours" on Sunday.
Stakddek
Congrats to all DNAP'ers. While the initial contract is paltry, the significance of the contract is a blockbuster. Some of you have more than $50,000.00 invested here, so you know what I mean. The contract is a big step on the way to accreditation with NIJ as a validated testing station for forensic samples. Though this is not DNAPs' sole aim, it is another brick in a foundation that keeps looking to be a mighty big building! The government is very "pickee" about contractors and DNAP being "on the list" is a significant happening. Number crunchers who let out the contracts just look at a contractor code and a price schedule and award contracts on that basis. They usually don't care who what where or how, just cheap and on the approved list. The problem for a contractor is being on the approved list, and staying there. We have faith in DNAP to keep those channels open by doing a great job for the government.
Is it just up from here? Never has been but, we sure aren't spending time looking at the path behind us. Excelsior!
Stakddek
OT: Here we go again Re RB: TonyTox is manning the pumps singlehandedly again. I guess his deepthroats sources are fanning the flames with "insider information" and Tony is telling us all how smart he is by gloating over "another big deal". Please do not laugh over this, (well a little). It is quite tragic to see a grown man used by his supposed friends as the butt of a joke. I just have this vision of a few "buddies" passing around a printout of all his posts on RB Monday morning and ROTFLAesO. We've learned that game and unless it's a solid due dilligence item, the speculation isn't worth the bother.
Source: Longtime poster.
Credibility: 0 "on any scale"
Getting ready to endure the week,
Stakddek
So apparently radean2000 knew you were stupid to begin with!
-- "most of our current posters are actually more stupid than I originally thought (w/ the exception of mingwan, w2p, spook, dragon, long_haul, mjam, novicetx, & grateful - to name a few)" --
But since we are all investing money in someone elses dream, perhaps the shoe fits!
Ignorantly blissful,
Stakddek
READ 4560 & 4561. Definite not to miss! Thanks A's for being awake this late.
Stakddek
Hey Vision: (Long Winded Opinion) I would like to think that the Genome is a blueprint and all the blueprints are a house. Now depending on a variance from the standard, you get bay windows or awning windows. Somewhere on page 2345345, that window style is specified. Eventually all this research will lead to the boilerplate of the sequence, and by comparing all the variations, we'll be able to figure out what they mean. It's not as simple as that example, but by learning to look at the portions of the code that are more than boilerplate, that is, just looking at the areas that differ from the norm, we can start ascribing those locations to the trait they exhibit. That page 2345345 in a "human blueprint" might be the location DNAP uses for eye color. The 500 pages before and after are boilerplate and don't describe any "visible trait". They may all have to do with the eye, but it's not readily evident how thick the cornea is or the unique shape of the retina. Possibly a deviation from the norm that indicates a vision deficit would be useful for DNAP as in "needs corrective lenses" on a drivers license. By locating the right page, and sufficient boilerplate to insure the location, great chunks of the genome need not be attended to. It's finding those places that's the trick. Once found the data is gathered as to what the difference means. Empiracly. Another brick in the wall. I think we've all heard how we differ almost insignificantly from chimps and other apes. Even mice. By using the "right places", once all are found, we can probably expect a multiple increase in the revelations in the field. That little virus, what or how much does it have in common with another virus. Now where do "all the virusses" differ? Given the effect that some can have, perhaps a little change in one or two locations is the difference between polio and benign. As the catalogue grows, with more detailed descriptions of whole systems, and the speed of analysis increases, well we are all in for quite a ride. 100 years ago the Wright brothers were in the workshop building experimental models to "get the wing right" or Wright. They bumped along for a few years but we have come quite far in that hundred years. Since the Genome was theorized, and the mapping completed (ahead of schedule) things have been speeding up. DNAP is on the wave, but a lot of others are working in the fields with them. All this knowledge is adding up and we may yet be the generation that reaps the greatest overall benefit from these studies. Every little bit helps, and though everything is happening fast, I still feel Doctor Frudakis and DNAP are ahead of the competition. Much of the competition is university level, and not necessarily aimed at commercial reward. DNAP is aimed at commercial reward, and whatever the dream Doctor Frudakis has in his heart, he is cutting trail where others have yet to venture. The reward can be great or mediocre, but I believe the Doctor will look after the crazy bunch of investors who put money into his dream. I mean it's nice to profit from helping people, as long as you're not exploiting them. All the research and data generated by DNAP is of value, even if shaking the wheat from the chaff. Problem is I think there is an awful lot of chaff. DNAP's proven products show that they have a thresher that's supercharged! It cuts a wide swathe and gets the best part of the field as it passes through. Might just be operator skill, but at least we still appear to be ahead of everyone else. I haven't seen anyone come up with a report that indicates anything different. Let's hope the company can keep "producing" at an accelerating rate, and hope the new management structure is stoking the fires for all the bread that will come our way!
Stakddek
Ahhah: Now it's all clear to me! McDNAPS. Genetically engineered fourlegged food to avoid obesity. The clue might have been frogdreamings dietary habits disclosed in his psuedonym, but the real giveaway has been the constant negativism of DragonEsq on RB who fears for his takeout business! But how does Petronas fit in? Freedom fries in Crude! No added calories! I rest on my laurels. Whoops a thorn.
Stakddek
DNAP123: Took you a while to haul yourself over here. Glad you are here to contribute, but please be aware that there is a thin line we all must not cross. It is a thin line because there is a lot of latitude, but, your long on kharma so you should have no trouble.
Stakddek
I think the frightening thing is what will they do when they have what they are looking for?
http://www.ananova.com/news/story/sm_811541.html?menu=news.scienceanddiscovery.genetics
Stakddek
As stories are posted about unsolved crimes, cold cases, please note the mindset of the police involved. They are tenacious and want to solve the crime. Any tool that will help, if even to eliminate a suspect, will be used, if they can get the budget. LA laid the first brick in that foundation that we know about with certainty. Wonder if news organizations will provide as much publicity? Probably not unless it's a current case with national news value. Victims killed 5 or ten years ago with little national exposure just won't be as newsworthy. At least there is the satisfaction that the criminal is known and a lot of family and friends will be relieved that the law is finally providing an element of closure. Nothing though will ever replace tha loss of a loved one. Maybe though, it can be a dose of prevention. If you rape and leave DNA, you'll get caught so why bother. Won't deter all the freaks but any is better than none.
Stakddek
Obviously an optical delusion of the bell curve. As such it is obvious to any standard deviant. You will note that my mane is not on that document. As such I can only report with the accuracy of looking with my hind that I too would have hoped for better things. I purchased this stock after a modicum of due dilligence, and have been adding to that position through the approximate two years I've been aware of DNAP. The diligence continues and of course the dream is still alive. In keeping with that dream and in the spirit of the poll past, I declare that the pps of DNAP on July 23, 2005 will be 50.00. Give or take a decimal place or two. I also am unable to consult my runes, so I am unsure if that is dollars, euros, rubles or slre. Given the accuracy of the previous prediction, I wanted to hedge my forecast. But I did pick up more shares this month! Now if I could predict a solid figure, that would just take all the fun out of the game. No we'll just have to let the swabs fall where they may, and ride Ochamms razor until we are rewarded, or sufficiently entertained by our investment.
Stakddek