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Who sells 12,000 shares for .0047 or $56.40? What a strange transaction.
I agree with you. The r/s leaves a real bad taste in my mouth. However, with 2 Billion shares outstanding, if they don't do a r/s, TDCP's pps will foreve be locked in as a penny stock. The one bright side is that r/s or no r/s, investors in TDCP will make lots of money.
SLOW DAY TODAY. APPARENTLY EVERYBODY FORGOT ABOUT THE MAYAN CALENDAR.
Cmey gave us a modest but welcome up tick this morning. Good morning to all.
ROFLOL. I agree with you 100%.
Thank you for such a detailed response. If I understand you correctly, you are bullish on CMEY but that investors should be patient--is that about right?
Thank you for the info. Do you like CMEY as a stock or do you think it is a dog?
The bid and ask suggests we might close today at .005. This will be interesting to watch.
I don't know but I added another 300,000 shares today.
Whoever sold me a boatload of CMEY stock today at .004---Thank you.
But how do they get the stock price to .0011 when no paid at that price. My understanding is the current price is the last price someone was willing to pay. Therefore, when the price was .0011 ther stock sold at that price and not .0019? Do you agree?
If it sold at .0019, why would it go to .0011?
Agreed. ECDC will be a great investment. I wish that guy who sold at .0011 had called me first. I would have been glad to give a much better price. oh well my order was not filled.
What do you think is going to happen?
BUY BUY BUY, Just ignore these monkeys who are down on ECDC, BUY NOW!!
I bought CTIC like you a long time ago. Except I bought in at .085. I sold at $1.50 or there abouts and made a ton of money. As usual CTIC is screwing around with the FDA. I did not buy back in because CTIC has a long history of goofing off and not doing what they are told by the FDA. I was considering buying options this time but I am glad I did not buy anything. I think it is that President and CEO who pumps CTIC like he selling a race track horse instead of the pharmaceutical product to help people. CTIC got sued by a lot of investors when it went bust at the last FDA meeting. I wonder how those lawsuit ended up.
TDCP seems to be stuck at .014. It looked like it was going to sell off a little in the last few days but it came back just fine.
The audit by IBM should be done. It was scheduled to be finished by January 2012. Now we will have to wait and see how long it takes IBM to share the results with CMEY. Hope the results are good.
You don't have to wait for a drug to be approved to make money on a pharmaceutical. Each step along the way is an opportunity to make money, Phase 1, 2 and 3. I have made more money playing the increments rather than the ultimate big win at FDA.
It looks like if this guy cannot do a r/s, he will dilute big time!! that seems to be the vote by all of these people getting out today. I am glad I got out last week and a nice profit of 55% but I am sick to see what is happening to this stock. It is a great stock but for this character "Ray"
Somebody is dumping 1 Million shares at a pop.
jimk1, you have the right attitude to make serious money in TDCP. We know TDCP will hit pay dirt big time. We just don't know exactly when. Plus, we have that stupid r/s to negotiate. Once that is out of the way, the best thing to do is to set your car on cruise control and just enjoy ride. I am waiting for any dips to get back in --now that my 31 day IRS probation is over. I plan to sell some TDCP stock this year at a big gain, some more next year and I plan to have enough left over to hold for 5 to 10 years. I hope TDCP can hold the technological edge in 3D volumetric technology for the long term. But the record for new technology is that someone else comes along and takes it one step better and moves the ball further down the court. We will see how TDCP does in a few years with CSpace. So you went fishing in Canada and did not invite anyone here to go with you? Well I will remember that when they give out free cup cakes when Obama loses the election!! LOL.
Good Points. Here's my take on R/S.
SECRETS OF A REVERSE SPLIT.
For those who never have experienced a r/s, here are some scenarios to help you to decide whether to buy TDCP stock before or after the r/s. If you currently own TDCP stock, this post will help you to decide whether to liquidate all of your shares before the r/s or hold on to some through the r/s.
Please find below nine different possible scenarios for the r/s at TDCP.
Key facts to remember:
1) As you can see from below, in terms of dollar gain or loss in your investment in TDCP, it does not matter whether the r/s is 15:1 or 35:1. You will not lose more or less if one ratio is used verses the other. Your dollar loss or gain will be the same regardless of which one is chosen. However, there may be other advantages to one ratio verses another. Many companies like to use a r/s to raise the pps to $1.00 or higher in order to be qualified for a listing on one of the major exchanges.
2) Don’t assume the stock will go DOWN after the r/s. In many well established companies, the stock will go down little if at all after the r/s. In penny stocks like TDCP, the general rule is the stock will plunge big time. It is even possible the stock will return to the pps before the r/s. This is because management begins to dilute the stock after the r/s to raise money.
3) However, TDCP is a bit of a wild card. CSpace technology is new–almost everything about TDCP is new. This is why it is not clear that the stock will go down.
4) If TDCP releases some good news shortly before the r/s and the stock goes red hot like it did a few months ago, the chances the stock will go down after the r/s diminish substantially.
5) If TDCP has a steady climb in the pps 3 to 4 weeks before the r/s, the chances the stock will go down after the r/s diminish as well. True, it’s possible TDCP may go down for a brief period like two or three days but after that the rally may start up again.
6) If TDCP stays here at .01 all the way to April 2012, the chances the stock will go down after the r/s are almost 100% certain.
7) Remember, the higher the pps BEFORE the r/s, the less amount of dilution TDCP management will engage in after the r/s.
8) Thus, if the r/s occurs in April 2012, which is the usual pattern in situations like these where the drop dead date for the r/s is scheduled for April 2012, a lot depends on where TDCP’s pps is at that time. How is the stock behaving just before the r/s. That is secret to a successful strategy during a r/s. Closely watch the behavior of the stock just before the r/s.
9) Fortunately or unfortunately depending on how you look at it, there are 6 months until April 2012. For a penny stock that is an eternity. It is not out of the question that TDCP could be at .25, .50 or even a $1.00 by that time. The number of things that can cause this stock to go nuclear are almost unlimited. Now that TDCP’s management has put the proto type on the calendar (12 months at the outside) the speculation factor kicks in big time. You can use your own imagination to guess what can cause TDCP stock to go up: patent issues, new partnerships with Boeing etc., investment news letters, false rumors, market makers pushing the stock, etc. (Two years ago I owned a stock called ASFX. There was a false rumor that there was going to be a buy out. I made 400% return on my investment in less than 30 days due to that false rumor.)
Remember, the closer the 12 month target date for the proto type comes, the greater the influence the speculative factor has on the pps. By April 2012, will have used up 6 of the 12 months. Thus, TDCP’s pps could be very volatile by April 2012.
10) Finally, please remember that many companies like to issue good news shortly before the r/s to lessen the pain for investors and to allow those investors who want out to sell at a higher price.
11) If you already own TDCP stock, and the temperature of the stock is red hot shortly before the r/s, you may want to sell a few shares and hold on to the rest. This is the conservative play.
If you are an aggressive investor, you may not want to sell any shares.
If you are ahead +25% by the time of the r/s, you may want to buy some more TDCP stock before the r/s..
If by late March or April 1st, TDCP is here at .01 –notwithstanding any good news– find the nearest emergency exit and get out. You can buy back in after the r/s.
12) Remember-- a nasty rule about r/s. You cannot sell any shares you now own–those shares that exist before the r/s-- until management at TDCP issues new shares to Scottrade, etc. Until the new shares are issued, you cannot sell any shares you hold through the r/s process. Your stuck. The new issued shares could take weeks for TDCP to issue them. Sometimes months. During which time, you must suffer and watch to stock either tumble or sky rocket without the ability to sell. Of course, you can buy and sell any post r/s you buy. This was one of the questions I had for the Oct. 15th meeting–how long will it take TDCP management to issue the new post r/s shares? I never got an answer.
13) Reverse splits are an exciting time for investors. If you study your stock carefully and have a good sense of timing you can turn what is usually a bad situation into an opportunity.
Reverse splits are a bear even for the most successful investors to tackle-- which I am not. The good news is this. If CSpace technology is just half of what I think it will prove to be, a true game changer–no matter how bad you and I screw this r/s up–we’re going to make a killing anyway! So don’t worry. Good luck my friends.
Let’s assume TDCP stock price stays at .01 until the r/s in April 2012.
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .075.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0375.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price is .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .015
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Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .175.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0875.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price is .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .035
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Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 5%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1575.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 10%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .165.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 25%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1875.
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AT 15:1 R/S.
Question: With $5,000.00 to invest, should I buy more TDCP shares before the r/s or after the r/s under each scenario below– if the pps goes down?
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .075.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $2499.98. Thus you will lose $2,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .075 you will have 66,666 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0375.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $1249.98. Thus you will lose $3,750 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .0375 you will have 133,333 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .015
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $499.99. Thus you will lose $4,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .015 you will have 333,333 shares at no loss.
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AT 35:1 R/S.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 50%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .175.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 14,285 shares for a total value of $2,499.99. Thus you will lose $2,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .175 you will have 28,571 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 75%:
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .0875.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 14,285 shares for a total value of $1,249.93. Thus you will lose $3,750 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .175 you will have 57,142 shares at no loss.
Let’s assume the post r/s price plunges 90%
At 35:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .35 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .035
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares after the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 14,285 shares for a total value of $499.97. Thus you will lose $4,500 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .035 you will have 142,857 shares at no loss.
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AT 15:1 R/S.
Question: With $5,000.00 to invest, should I buy more TDCP shares before the r/s or after the r/s under each scenario below–if the pps goes up?
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 5%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1575.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares before the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $5,249.94. Thus you will gain $249 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .1575 you will have 31,746 shares at a loss of $249.00 in lost stock you could have had.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 10%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .165.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares before the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $5,499.94. Thus you will gain $499.94 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .165 you will have 30,303 shares at a loss of $499.94 in lost stock you could have had.
Let’s assume the post r/s price goes up 25%:
At 15:1 the post r/s stock price starts at .15 per share.
Before the r/s each share costs you .01.
After the r/s each shares costs you .1875.
Under this scenario you should only buy TDCP shares before the r/s:
$5,000 at .01 = 500,000 shares. After the r/s you will have 33,333 shares for a total value of $6,249.93. Thus you will gain $1,249.93 if you buy before the r/s.
$5,000 at .1875 you will have 26,666 shares at a loss of $1,249.93 in lost stock you could have had.
Samgyeopsal, this is the same patent no. 8,075,139 awarded in Dec 2011.
NAPADUDE, welcome! I think you made a wise decision to invest in TDCP. This company is pushing the technological envelop in 3D technology with a patent protected CSpace technology owned by Oklahoma University. Sorry, I can’t offer you a private reply. But I do not have a subscription with iHUB. Private communications require a subscription at iHUB. In any case, you have hit TDCP at the right time. TDCP should be ready to go commercial by April of this year. Sadly, we also have a reverse split to negotiate as well–which will most likely occur in late March or April of this year. But r/s or not, investors will make serious money in TDCP. Big profits will come in the short term and in the long term. In the short term, a pps of $1.00 or less is highly likely–anytime after April. In the longer term–say 3 to 5 or 7 years a pps of $5, $10 or $20 is within reach–if TDCP can keep its technological edge with CSpace. CSpace offers volumetric 3D technology–a very different kind of 3D technology and only TDCP offers that kind of technology in the whole wide world. Please find below an earlier post I offered about TDCP which I think might be helpful to you. When it comes to TDCP, I blog mostly here on the iHUB web page. I have used Yahoo but sometimes I can’t get the program to accept my comments. In any case, the TDCP members here at iHUB are a great team and we work together a lot. Most of the members here at TDCP are investors and not day traders. Thus, you do not read a lot of silly pumping of the stock. Good luck Napadude!!
What is the key date to remember? Sales and Commercialization is the key date for TDCP investors. According to the November 1, 2011 Shareholder letter, commercializations is estimated to begin 6 months from November 1, 2011. TDCP commercialization begins when the Engineering Verification Test Bed (EVTB) is ready which estimated to occur 6 months from November 1. The EVTB is effectively a mini TSP. The final full scale TSP is scheduled for 12 months from the November 1, 2011. However, the key date is when can TDCP sell CSpace, when can it go commercial? That can occur 6 months from the November 1, 2011 Shareholder Letter–when the EVTB is ready. Thus, sometime in April 2012, when the r/s is likely to occur, TDCP is scheduled to go commercial with CSpace! We have used up 2 ½ of those 6 months already.
From the November 1, 2011 Shareholder Letter:
“It is likely that active commercialization efforts can be started when the Engineering Verification Test Bed (EVTB) is finished in approximately 6 months. The EVTB will be identical to the Trade Show Prototype model in every respect but will be somewhat smaller, approximately the size of a “snow globe”. I also noted that 3DIcon has identified and is having discussions with potential strategic partners, including a Fortune 50 Aerospace company for command and control and inventory applications; an optical scanning company to provide automated scanners for manufacturing lines; a gaming company to provide 3D elements for gaming tables and a private defense company to provide display systems for the intelligence Community.
. . . The timeline estimated for the Engineering Verification Test Bed which would give us the ability to initiate commercialization efforts was estimated to be approximately 6 months and approximately 12 months for the final TSP. ”
If this thing hits .0024, my initial investment price (Before I sold out at .0039), I may get back in. I don't think there will be a r/s on Feb 15 or at any other time. I think FINRA will effectively force GNTA to find new money and get out from under these required r/s. They are unfair to investors. I don't mind stock dilution. I can tolerate that. But r/s are a coffin.
Something tells me the Feb 15th r/s is not going to happen either. I think they are going to give extensions over and over and hopefully find a new way to finance what appears to be excellent medical science that this company has.
This stock should be going up and big time. GNTA needs to find a partner and get from under these dumb r/s. Get new money and let the investor invest in this company with some level of confidence. This is a great stock with a great future. It should be going up but this stupid threat of r/s kills it. GNTA needs to get from under these requirements to do a r/s--get a new partner!!
Which is exactly what happened 1 hour ago. Read the second 8k and the new Feb 15 date for the r/s.
Correct, but most companies will do their r/s towards the end of the deadline date. Thus, the r/s will not likely occur until mid February. But could FINRA deny the r/s? Could the Feb 15 deadline be extended too just like the January one? Could these deadlines just continually be extended with no r/s every occurring?
Yes, by Feb 15th. Question, will the Feb 15 date be extended too? I would love to invest in this company long term but these financial deals that require r/s like clockwork are a big screw to the investor. If they can find a partner and be rid of these r/s this stock would be great and really take off. GNTA has good science!!!
Will there be a r/s by Feb. 15th or not? According to the 8K filed today the deadline has been extended to Feb. 15. Does anyone know what the split will 20:1, 50:1? Please advise. This company has great news on the science front to be sure.
By my calcuations the 19th is the 30th day and the 20th is the 31st. My last sell of TDCP was on December 20th. But I am holding off until next week before I buy back in. I am concerned that the good people at Scottrade cannot count to 30. LOL. I must have that tax write off or I will be hit big time this year. TDCP has been a bit bullish lately. I was hoping to buy back in at .01 or lower. But that does not look likely. I sold two stocks today for a nice small profit--about 55% in 30 days-- to build up my TDCP war chest. I am really thinking a lot about TDCP. How will she behave until April when the r/s hits? I think there is a good chance they may annouce the EVTB, the mini TSP sometime in Feb or Mar, in which case the stock will move a lot. And then we have that mine field to walk through in April. Once we get April behind, I think I can just sit back and enjoy the ride. Good luck my friend.
LOL. You may be right. It could go up from here. It's possible. Good Luck.
I am sorry you are having a tough time with this stock. Unless there is some good news coming out tomorrow, this stock most likely will slowly drift back down to the .0026 area. The medical science that GNTA offers is excellent, really good. But the management at GNTA screw the investors with lots of r/s and stock dilution. To be sure, GNTA someday will pay off big time. You could sell now and reduce your loss. At .0039 you not that far behind. I plan to buy back in when it hits .0024 or .0025. Of course, if GNTA comes up with a partner the stock could take off from here. But I think the more likely scenario will be for the stock to go back down and at some point in the not too distant future, GNTA will merge or find a partner. This of course assumes tht GNTA will not be allowed to go forward with a r/s by FINRA. I bought in at .0024 and sold at .0039. It was a nice little move. Good luck to you.
Ask is getting thin!! I may have made a mistake!!
I sold the bulk of my shares at .0039. It was a nice profit. I kept some free shares in GNTA just in case something big does happen but the volume is going south and I think GNTA management is diluting right now. Good luck to all.
There seems to be strong resistance at .004. If we can get through .004 in the next 30 minutes or so, we might get back on track for .005.
Almost $700,000.00 in GNTA stock was traded today. Apparently, something good is cooking in the oven.
Excellent points. I agree with you. CMEY will be the stock to watch this quarter.