Good point, thx.

I have a little confidence they'll (CCC) try to do something for the ENZC shareholders. They do share liability for the ENZC malfeasance and fraud, since they were part of and actually endorsed publicly, a lot of the bad steps Zhabilov took. I'm assuming they'd like to avoid, if possible, any potential legal action, not to mention a lot of bad shareholder pushback on their new companies when they take the old ENZC IP's public under new tickers. There's a lot of pissed-off ENZC shareholders that are following their X chatter and websites.

If they don't believe that legal potential could touch them, just because they are not officially with ENZC now, then Charles is not the lawyer many believed him to be. Hoping that antiquated and lowly OTC:Pink status may protect them from SEC investigation is a crapshoot at best. I'd sign on to any class-action brought against them if they have no make-well provision or action for the ENZC shareholders in their new ventures.

I know if I were in their position, taking the same IP's public in a new company after my shareholders were defrauded by my past company's actions, just the bad press following me would make the new launches far less effective, and still have legal crap potentially hanging over my head. I try to defend these guys, but let's face it, OTC:PINK scams are a dime a dozen, 9 out of every 11 pink stocks are major losers and scams, and ENZC is not stepping up viably at this time.

The one thing that shakes my small amount of confidence, are the latest cavalier posts Chandra's dropping about his travels and futures for Adnexus. (Apparently Cavalier anyway....) Without any strong notice by anyone in the CCC gang that they have 'something' or 'anything' in the works for their past supporters is evasively egotistical and reckless, IMHO. I've been urging them to try a couple of things that would go a long way in resolving this and making better their own futures, but I've heard nothing back. Maybe I have a larger conscience, but in Chandra's position today, I could not just pump my new efforts while my old supporters were left holding on to bags of my own rotting trash.

GLTA

Ouch. Think I can scratch one of the three off the list, just found a more obscure site saying his older home was bought by a new buyer 6 months back. I'll send to the remaining two, but Rockwall is most likely where his hat is hung most often.

Thank Timing! I had this one and believe it to be his primary residence, but I found another house he still owns, and one older one he may not own anymore. Just since some problem-makers like to evade, I wanted to make sure.
The Rockwall residence makes the most sense, listed as current, and in a gorgeous area of Rockwall I know fairly well. Where I'd expect a longtime lawyer to be.

Thx!

Anyone want to show what they have on the current living address of Charles Cotropia? I have 3 addresses I tracked down, want to make sure I land the certified or registered mail to the correct one for fast receipt. (Just in case the one I think it is, might be wrong.) Any results I get back on this will be shared privately in messages.

That's the unfair question we all muse about. Chandra needs to put out a decent signal he can stand behind. Wonder who's dime he's traveling on now (?)

Completely agree. I may need to learn about the write-off process though.

'Some' hope that CCC will come through. We're not blind about it. We know if they don't provide published success data on Clone3/7, AND provide and ENZC shareholder resolution, they'll have a lot of bad, public press following them around everywhere, and possible legal actions for being part of a defrauding of investors scheme while at ENZC.

They don't lose that liability simply because they're no longer at ENZC. They have their names featured prominently for endorsing the criminal-intent SAGA deal.

CCC has their own motivations to come through. The only question is, will they?

GLTA

My sentiments exactly, keep the diplomatic pressure up, until we get a fair resolution.

GLTY

That's a case that can be brought before the board by a regular citizen or a group of citizens relatively easy. Just takes a formal, well-written compliant, and a lawyer to file it.

Terry

This is your best point. Right now, everyone feeling cheated on ENZC, should be hitting all of the Chandra posts, Godfather Capital Posts and KoP posts regarding ENZC, Andexus & MABS-Tech and the newer of the two ENZC pages. not to mention the investor boards, including but not limited to, IHub, Discord, Robinhood, Google Investing, etc... spread the word about all recent ENZC scams and Zhabilov, and the responsibility of the new Andexus and MABS-Tech companies for the ENZC investors.

Everyone should know what they are getting into. If CCC makes things right, we can all praise them all into blushing, but until then,... O' man.....!

I'm using one of my two Twitter/X pages now, to make sure anyone searching for Andexus, Dr. Chandra, MABS-Tech, ENZC or the Cotropias may find my posts too.

GLTA

I've been urging him to do just that in my messages over on Twitter and my text to one of his cell phone numbers. Exactly what you said here. If for any reason they don't, my web marketing company will drop an anti-Adnexus and anti-MABS-Tech campaign for all to see. Every single ENZC shareholder that came on during the CCC run at ENZC, should be ready to hit the online boards similarly if they don't come clean.

GLTA

I did leave him a message there too, but not one like I dropped on Sharabura.

GLTA

Well said Dr..

The newer of the two ENZC pages on Twitter.

That's certainly a possibility. I've been reading more Twitter/X posts by folks following Chandra, and its rather revealing.
Seems he's got a lot of followers who have heard Adnexus may be blowing out positive PR's on an accelerated track once they go public. They've hinted at Patent news, new volunteer trials etc, a bunch of the stuff Chandra mentioned on his phone call with me. I just keep wondering how many shareholders he's actually called up on various boards, Twitter/X being the central news nexus they are all responding on.

Maybe, anyhow.

I've left repeated messages on the usual online haunts Chandra normally keeps an eye on. I've urged him and the CCC group to get successful published data out on Clone3/7, and some form of promise about an ENZC shareholder resolution. Quite frankly, I've also picked up a lot of chatter about a class-action suit against Zhabilov and the CCC group if new public companies with the old ENZC IP's begin operations under a new ticker. I understand where they're coming from too. The entire SAGALIAM share dilution/abuse, illegal share selloffs, and the subsidiary mess was all done with CCC participation, not just Zhabilov initiatives. So, even not being part of ENZC now, the CCC group could be easily held liable as defendants, in any class-action complaint brought against ENZC for actions taken while CCC was still there.

That's a lot of legal hassle, cost and bad publicity CCC would have to endure if what I was reading about hits.
If Adnexus does offer an ENZC shareholder solution, or does re-acquire ENZC, and publishes some successful testing data on Clone3/7, all of the CCC groups' worries disappear, and the ENZC shareholder may survive with satisfaction.
They may be at a delicate point right now, with what they can divulge, but they are responsible for not getting word out to current shareholders of ENZC as well. I want to support Dr. Chandra, but feel very concerned about his Cum-bai-yaah posts as he travels around, not leaving substance in his posts for his past supporters and investors. Charles could issue a really game-changing PR, even while private, to help things, and he's undergound right now too.

On the other hand, for us, treading water way out here in the Pacific Ocean with this ENZC anchor chained to our waists, will make treading water the OTC:Pink nightmare coming to a dark close.

GLTA

I just dropped a crap on Sharabura's ENZC Twitter page. It felt good, let me blow some steam out.

Good luck with that one! Appears pretty good from what I just saw.

There was Hvp. On one X post, he clearly said partners AND acquisition targets in the US, now it's just partners and personnel. To me, it appears he edited his post. His remark about the "couple of acquisition targets in the UK" visit, was supposed to happen by EOY. The latter is still up as originally posted.

ADNEXUS is going public very soon. The IP's for the AI/Intel Platform are owned by Chandra and assigned to Adnexus right now. The Clone3/7 patents and penders are owned by Charles Cotropia and are assigned to MABS-Tech for the time being. This was announced on July 4th and made official.
According to the Adnexus website and some Chandra X-posts, use of the Clone3/7 patents will be on and active with Adnexus, from day one of they're going public with Adnexus. I think Charles will keep MABS-Tech as a shell until their plan for re-acquiring ENZC is executed.
Again, ENZC has no legal claim on any of the CCC IP's. If anyone's worried over that, I'd direct you back to the ENZC PR notice in early April about BGEN being dissolved and those BGEN IP's leaving with the CCC gang.
Adnexus and MABS-Tech were set up for full legal ownership and corporate shell protection from any and all poachers.

Now we get to wait and see if Chandra is a man of his word, or a spin-artist. Without published success data on any Clone3/7 testing, this will just be a fairy tale we all wished for.
Here's to CCC making a big collective difference soon. It's a further disservice every day they delay in helping shareholders know what is coming forth with Adnexus and ENZC in the endgame. Trading of these shares is frozen for most of us, not knowing where the gamble is anymore, other than high risk.

GLTA

Thanks Wick, we just do what we can. I'll update everyone when I get the mail receipt back on Charles' delivery.

Hey SA, well, he did say that to me personally, about the last 2 billion shares being illegally authorized and that how he sold them off was illegal. I have no honest idea if he's said this publicly or not. He said Harry was lining his own pockets.
I'm pretty sure he told reps of the other investor boards the same thing, based upon their own comments concerning it, since the last mess of last April and May (begun in March, of course.)

GLTY

Could be.

His latest Twitter/X post said he's visiting acquisition targets in the US this week. The UK in months to follow.

Hey, we've all collaborated in good faith, almost all of us. No one owes me anything but a similar effort. Thanks in any case. Let's see this through. Prayers advised.

Just sent Chandra another note, will call directly by early next week if no reply. A reasonable question that if positively answered, could assuage a lot of our concerns. I'm also thinking about a registered mail delivery to Cotropia's home.
Transparency folks. GLTA

So, Dr. Chandra is visiting acquisition targets in the US now, and in the UK in coming months? Who's acquiring whom? I believe he's attempting to sell Adnexus licensing.

Charles Cotropia better darn-well be doing his end for ENZC re-acquisition or some form of free-shares offer.

The latest Crap from ENZC over on X:

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The make-whole provision will apply to all shares distributed to $ENZC #ENZC shareholders. This is unchanged, and will guarantee the value during the makewhole period.
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ITV, which is a sister compound, has gone through in-vitro for herpes, flu, covid and other disease in Bulgaria with good results $ENZC #ENZC
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$ENZC #ENZC is reviewing the first draft of the statement of work for the initial in-vitro trials provided by a leading Texas University.

Reading between the lines, it sounds like ENZC is desperate to get buyers to scoop up more shares via day-trading pumpers. Wonder why?

YES, not a one of them has ever sold a single share to date.

It would be in their best interests to sue if Harry does not comply under pressure.
The results of their severance from ENZC damages their ability to bring in new shareholders (1), They want to restore ENZC shareholder values as promised and bring that back into their new operations (2), and it also prevents a lot of legal and speculative attacks if they opened up new companies with their same IP's. While Harry and ENZC could not sue them for use of those IP's, the shareholders still have an avenue of reciprocity against CCC for their shares being devalued by fraud operations directed by Zhabilov. I'm pretty sure Charles Cotropia is fully aware of this.

CCC was part of the company during much of that time, and their IP's were assigned to ENZC during this time. If a Class-action got filed, and if CCC managed to defeat such a lawsuit it would still cost a lot in $$$ and time, not to mention further reputation bashing while trying to run a new public company

Add to that, the main reason, a lawsuit that threatens full criminal exposure on Zhabilov by CCC, is the final pressure point, that and getting share-voting control back, to force Harry out, and all of our shares are not worthless anymore.
Many reasons CCC would benefit from suing ENZC and Zhabilov named directly, but hopefully Harry gets smart and removes himself before that can happen. Another reason Robustomed is being kept around as their shell company, a place to land if Harry gets ousted.

GLTY

One thing is for certain D., if CCC filed such a suit against Harry & Co., they'd have no problem legally posting that notice on the investor boards, and getting us all, to sign up for a class action compliant. That alone, with the violated voting by-laws and share issuance abuse would have any decent lawyer telling him (Harry) to settle out and give up control.

GLTA

I was told, in plain English, that SAGA owns nothing of the past or impending BGEN patents, and the severance arrangement for CCC to leave ENZC, with a terminated SAGA deal on BGEN, kept them in full 100% ownership of the IP's involved.

They did have a PR about how BGEN was no longer part of any SAGALIAM merger, only VIRO, so I'm assuming from their own output, that the IP's have no conflicts sitting where they are at Adnexus and MABS-Tech. This was a SAGA/ENZC joint PR too. Remember, Kostiner's name and quote was on the PR as well (allegedly, I have no doubt Harry would just toss his name in there while tied up in court.)

I know the ENZC PR's of late are pure dumpster-diving ruffage, but those announcements from March and April do add up.

GLTA

TradingG just supported most of the CCC claims actually. And he mixed in the ITV-1 patent from Zhabilov, with the MABS patents from Cotropia and Chandra. Not apples-2-apples. FACT!
CCC did claim the EU patents would be in this year, by EOY at the latest, so Hollywood there is not pumping, just reposting in his own words.
ITV-1 no one cares about,, failed attempt, Zhabilov scam and propaganda to be sure.
Is it possible the MABS patents go nowhere (?) sure is. Is it possible they're for real and coming, sure is. The only good news here is, CCC's operation might succeed with a 50-50% probability line to date.

I hate being stuck on a fence as much as anyone, But two facts are prevalent here. (1) If CCC, under whatever ticker, doesn't publish successful data on Clone 3/7, and soon, they are just a scam to be tossed aside or prosecuted even. (2) if they don't recover ENZC control, or find a shareholder resolution under a new ticker, which is possible, they're still not much better than a scam.

But too bad for the bashers, if they do any one of the two options above appropriately, this opportunity is still alive and moving. Maybe CCC will still come through. One thing they fail to realize however, time is not a convenience they can afford to squander anymore.

GLTA

Sounds like SAGA is avoiding complete obliteration by technicalities only, and it also proves GLD's lawyer is somewhat an amateur at corporate law. Missing the local state's law application to these charges, a state where the corporation is chartered in, is beyond messy and obvious. Sounds like GLD could have had SAGA dead on arrival, and let them slip away, partially at least.
Still SAGA has no cash, and any complaint brought against them to return the ENZC shares would win that case, if just documented properly.

Anything to add Charles....? CHARLES ?????

Hard fact is, you may be right. Another hard fact is, you might be wrong. If they don't publish some real data on Clone3/7 efficacy, we'll know they are a scam or they are the worst public business company management ever. (Maybe both)

GLTA

Me too. Dr. Chandra does indeed love pushing prose out with Rose-colored glasses on. I also agree with some of the more critical perspectives here. They have to show some valid published data for Clone3/7, announce some form of timeline for moving forward, whatever the plan is, and address any lost value for ENZC shareholders they were undeniably a part of.

It would go a long way to avoid legal trouble too.

GLTA

People on here know I've never pumped this, only trusted when not obviously visible trouble was present.

Funny, talking to Chandra is much more honest than dealing with you. His first words to me, was how I was their biggest critic, and not being fair to them. Then we spoke for another 45 minutes.

I investigated, showed their labs evacuated, interviewed the A&M staff at the labs, helped locate the home addresses of those involved, checked for any other public financial interests of all parties, urged them to publish valid data on Clone3/7, just to prove to shareholders they have the real goods and that their story is true.

I've had the realities, good and bad come back from them.
What have you done?

Not a damn thing. Been bashing even before this began to crash. GFO.

Well dope, Chandra did not accept the CEO position as offered, has been trying to find way to apply charges against Zhabilov, and he's no longer listed anywhere on ENZC paperwork, posted or filed. He's admitted to be at Cotropia's house while working, etc....

And you print soap opera crap from less-than-amateurs saying he's part of Zhabilov's scam and current ops.

You're so sorry man....

You may be right. I did try that button; it was still inactive. I was barraging Chandra for more information. All we got back was his Adnexus news.

Texted his phone number, called again and left a VM, emailed him directly at his UC address and posted all over his Twitter usual haunts to reconnect.

Just FYI.

Stupid moron. We're so far past your rumor mill. Chandra is not part of Harry's group, never was.