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yea, did you see the paper trail on yahoo? they got ole johnny pegged. 5 or 6 aliases.
the same thing happened when they filed what they stole from wamu. then they took it down when they found that the bank had more money in it than jpm actually paid for it! then they filed scrivener's error.
the receivership was fraudulent...thus the scrivener's error. they were caught the day they stole wamu. the dopes didnt know the 4 bil dollar trap was set and they fell right into it. this is posturing on fdic's part because of the deposition they have to answer filed by susman. looks like they are in agreement that they committed a crime and must pay! susman will use the documents from iron mountain for the true summary of assets and you will see rosen settle so fast it'll make your head spin. remember rosen is a junior .....our guy has NEVER lost a case and wouldnt have taken this unless he knew he could bring money back to shareholders and himself!
she cannot sign off on something she hasnt seen. no numbers have been discussed on purpose. they know they stole them. and if they disclose the numbers jpm is in trouble along with fdic. rosen said in court there was no settlement for shareholders. then after susman talked he came back and said monies are set aside for preferreds. he's not going to discuss numbers at all. thus the 9019. everything is under the radar and lockboxed. we will win. and all shares will be accomodated because possession is 9/10ths of the law but you have to pay a fair price first or return it to the rightful owner and make them whole. THAT'S THE LAW!
in susman's own filing he stated.."if there is no consideration for common and preferred shares...there is no true settlement!" this is a total fart filing. all parties in the case must agree or there is no settlement period~ susman just filed for deposition of fdic. think this is a tit-for-tat filing by fdic? i think so. susman will win this one.
was this not the last excuse when they delayed till 1200pm on the other time they took the shares down in price. think they are delaying to screw with the stock again?
smart! thats where i bought in last dump. it went to 8 but couldnt get them. they took 10.
i think one more shake. rosen will go first i bet. will talk gloom and doom "no money for shareholders". they take it down then our guy susman is up and they then can no longer hold it down and the stock goes nuts. jmo
i believe they certainly made more than that. they want to control the numbers going out to lessen the blow to their stock.
hammer, there is a great story on wnd.com about jpm manipulation of gold and silver markets. it shows how jpm would signal traders to short etc. i think this truly relates to wamu. i dont know how to copy and paste. could you post this article for everyone. also the whistleblower was intentionally mowed down with his wife in the car, a hit on their lives they believe. very damaging article for dimon and jpm. thank you.
its not. goldman is already under investigation for shorting both lehman an wamu stocks to oblivion. conspiracy or kool aid you call it..i think not. it was a controlled takedown of two competitors of the fed reserve and controlled i mean they controlled it. goldman, citicorp, jpm, they all knew the takedown was going to occur and collectively shorted the stock and walked away with billions. funny how the assets are bringing 100% on the dollar..per steve forbes. and funny how they are changing the name of lehman so people dont know the company is coming out of bk, not failing hopelessly like the media wants you to think. thats why jude peck said he has never seen this before in bk. because insolvent companies dont come back from the dead unless they werent dead to begin with...just incapacitated for a moment to create the outcome needed to get an agenda through.
the MM's should be trading this like crazy to make money. they are not. why? because it worth moore to them out of bk. this stock is golden. i finally got to 10,067 shares and i am holding till the end. i think this to like wampq could be a wild ride. the lawyers said they couldnt unwind it. there are too many companies depending on overseas transactions and cannot be shut down. then the stock cant be shut down either. just reorganized under a new name so the general public doesnt know this was a planned takedown to create the economic crisis to get tarp and bo elected and destroy the competition for the fed reserve banks so they are one step closer to global governance.
one is rothschild for sure. jmo. his name is all over wamu's court docs too! this is the global settlement part of the equation for both lehman and wamu. cant let a good crisis go to waste. thats how they make their money. just like the fat finger trade that sent the stock market down 1000 pts. fat finger i dont think so! planned dip so citicorp, goldman, and jpm could make some money at .001 on accenture. i think so. jmo.
yea and wasnt it funny it was a trader at citi that did it. that wasnt an oops. they killed the stop losses and people were duped. people better get their stock back for this crap. do you believe it was a glitch? not me...just like the 90 to 8 glitch with wmi. its all planned. the little guy has no chance. no chance at all. we will! but others, i dont think so.
walrath knows she has a duty to wmi to get them back on track. they have overstayed their welcome in delaware bk which is 18 months. she has given a road map to sussman and wants him to take the reigns to shut rosen up. sussman will do this. as far as criminal intent this is not the courtroom to hear this. but sussman is the attorney to bring the charges after the fact. he could easily ask for a criminal trial after proving intent of jpm and gs to eliminate competition and using naked shares to short the stock to make the bank look as if it is failing. the fdic using wamu as a test case to see if they could actually take down a bank with a holding company and get away with it. and the failure of lehman and wamu with the freezing of accounts by jpm to create the economic crisis to not only get paulson's agenda of tarp through, but to get the current administration elected. because without the economic crisis they would have lost! BO said that himself during the campaign. thats why jaime dimon is taking lunch with BO. he's asking ...ok i did this for you... now tell me the pardon is waiting if the charges start flowing? and BO wants jd in geithners position at the treasury to continue his agenda. mark my word. no charges for jd, maybe sheila and gs gets the shaft for the shorting. and this all goes away magically! poof!
that is very true! sussman never takes a case without researching it first. he knows this is bigger than enron and he knew he was the man that was going to get justice for us. we need to count our blessing on this one. he is the one they hoped they wouldnt see across the table. fdic is not going to touch or agree to anything until sussman is satisfied...better believe that one.
the assets are "hidden in plain sight." and susman will certainly uncover all this information. he knows what intellectual property is worth, infringements, and colluded takedown certainly. he already knows they are guilty. hell, they even know, and have admitted guilt. the only thing he is looking for is the numbers. they know what they were worth at takedown and they know that jpmc has certainly had "negative goodwill" by stealing the property. that has to be exposed and disclosed too. and if jpm and fdic do not want this exposed they have to pay to keep it under wraps. you watch...sussman has full disclosure and discovery powers and i think he will call for trial immediately. they will wait till the eleventh hour and settle. no docs get exposed and everything goes away. sussman has a number in mind for sure. he is one for using an element of surprise. i feel this call for a trial will be that surprise, to make them crap their pants, and the catalyst needed to tie this all up in a bright red bow. he is one tenacious lawyer and doesnt mess around. his time is valuable and he is one of the best closers when it comes to lawsuits there is. yes i feel 45-100/share is the range i feel this will go to in the commons with preferreds certainly seeing face value plus back divis. with bear stearns balking at 2 then getting 10, that shows wamu is worth at least 10 times that. wamu was the crown jewel for jpmc. they thought they had killed wamu and wouldnt have to answer to anyone. but they couldnt get it done and now they must pay. wamu was the biggest bank to go down in the U.S.. they didnt fail! they were stolen and all parties involved must pay damages plus reparations to make everyone whole again. that is the law. you cant steal something, claim its yours, then reap the gains you make from the stolen property as your own. jpmc has disclosed the negative goodwill received and i believe all of this will come back to wmi and then some. do you realize that wamu alone propped up jpmc and saved the economy from economic peril. the social security fund, veterans fund, and pension funds of our senators and congressman, that were held in accounts in jpmc, were in jeopardy because of jpmc overleveraging and were all going to go down with jpmc. but the assets and stability of wamu and wmi saved the economy? thats why this is not talked about anywhere. its always lehman and bear stearns never wamu. why? i think we all know why. and thats why i keep buying because we are getting ready to get paid and big! little timmy geithner swore there would never be another wamu...because they are trying to get legislation so they can legally claim systemic risk then steal banks blind. but it has failed so far in the senate. they know they are going to have to pay and they are trying to prevent having to answer for their thievery in the future. they need this so they can get to global governance by the fed reserve. its getting really scarey in the world today. and with the euro going away thats one less currency to consolidate. is the dollar next with china breathing down our necks. i surely hope not.
i think 45-100/shr. is very possible. rosen and his posse are hiding assets to stay in bk and to milk the system for their monetary gain. only they know what wmi is worth. but sussman is getting ready to blow the lid off that real soon. he is veracious when it comes to digesting information and will be ready next session imo. wmi was stolen not illiquid! it has been documented many times in court documents by jpm admission and fdic saying they were premature. sussman knows this too. you heard the talking points of nelson. sussman has all the facts. now puting a dollar amount to the illegal takedown, intellectual property infringement, and illegal seizure of wholly owned subsdiaries of an american holding company for the propping up of a fed reserve bank is going to be fun to see! jmo.
judge mary did us a favor. who is better at closing than sussman? who could we trust more than sussman? he is about the bottom line and he gets the glory when we get paid! he has never lost a case!judge wanted the pot to stop leaking cash and knows sussman will handle this situation to fruition and she will make sure all docs are turned over or else! we are in very good hands. remember the chairman of the ec is in this for 200,000 dollars and he filed before rosen came out with his bs. he will be paid! and he will get a turnover of bod. and if he doesnt that means a settlement is coming. the bod and rosen certainly dont want a turnover of anything. and for that they must pay! we are in the drivers seat in both instances.
thank you! i wish the best for everyone here. but i couldnt pass them up at 1.65! i feel our day will be late summer aug.
my opinion is that these shares are going to see shares in the new co. lamco. that is why they arent selling like wampq. why, as an MM, would you have shares and not sell them to make money while in bk....unless they are worth more to you out of bk? i dont truly know. things are truly sketchy and secretive with this stock. i bought 10,000 and i am hoping for the best. jmo.
id like to take 3 swings at him! lets roll the board and get going.
i saw on greta van sustren last night that people are exposing the lawyers and bk judge that is allowing the excessive charges they are filing for. is the examiner going to get us closer to turning out of bk? have you heard anything on the progress?
why is lehpq zero'd out?
dont you think that's low? i was thinking in the 24 to 40 range to start. damages have not come into play yet. we are far from finished here. susman and the examiner should push this estimate way over the top. reach for the moon first. then negiotiate from there. the shareholders are in the drivers seat with the replacement of BOD. rosen has hid assets to keep this case in bk so HE could milk it. we dont truly know what we are worth until the examiner and susman investigate. and i think we may see well above 11.00 to make this all go away! i dont think jpm and fdic will let it be known what was stolen.susman certainly has a number in mind. susman will go for the jugular and the more we make the more he makes. now that is incentive!
sorry bondholders! judge will not"pierce the corporate veil!" you need to try and get it out of fdic. GOOD LUCK WITH THAT. bye bye now! judges ruling....disallowed! jmo.
hey fish, check post 192725, did i call it or did i call it! criminal charges coming down for goldman sachs! they are going to take the fall for jpm and fdic in my opinion. i loved when goldman ceo was being grilled by senate and when he was asked a question,he clearly did not want to answer, said...this is civil, right? if i answer this? meaning civil prosecution. but now they just announced they are going criminal because of the outrage from americans. the tpg matchup with wamu, then them shorting the stock to oblivion, is going to get their precious jaime dimon a "get out of jail free card." he gets appointed to tiny tims seat as treasury sec. and goldman gets the shaft! all the better in proving solvency for us and collusion on their part. the govt is not above eating their own. nice to know corruption is ongoing.go wamuuu!
the only reason wmi is still in bk is because rosen has suppressed the assets. they have to stay under a threshold or by law they have to come out. once susman cracks this wide open it will be settlement then hurried stuffing of the lockbox for all incriminatng evidence. jmo.
fish, i dont know how to post articles here. but i found a blog article that speaks volumes about fed reserve and this case. its titled the truth about the federal reserve bank on educate-yourself.org/cn/fedreservebankexplained19dec05. it shows the people that own shares in fed reserve and goldman is not posted. i think the fed reserve is trying to purge partners a la rothschild. funny how jpm chase is listed and not goldie. i think rothschild wants a bigger piece of pie and the "in crowd" is outing the lesser. would you post it for me please. thank you for your kind remarks.
i absolutely agree. "govt sachs" may be setup to take the fall to save jpm and fdic. if the govt can lie to the american people, why not lie to goldman sachs? tell them they have cover and will only be civil prosecution. then continue to leak illegal criminal acts by them to the point americans demand criminal prosecution. and all the govt has to say to goldie is "we tried!" understand rothschild will NEVER take a loss and they are in the wamu and lehman scandal up to their necks! (barclays and also rothschild is named in the court docs for the wamu case also.)remeber they were the ones that setup tpg with wamu in the beginning for the 8 billion , then shorted the crap out of the stock to make it seem the bank was failing. perfect scapegoat! they started the whole ball of wax rolling. jmo.
at its best before bk what did dime trade for?
why is the bid showing .07 and ask of .11 and its trading at .50? why isnt the b/a updating?
i pray that rosen's "veil" is lifted soon and trouble comes his way. in the meantime susman will keep him fumbling like an idiot in the courtroom. you could tell when he referenced the "milking of jpm," he was "utterly" coming unglued! (pun intended).
you know rosen is going to be looking hard for any conflict of interest he can find to oust susman. he certainly cant out smart him. i certainly hope there arent any conflicts. susman was certainly in control of this courtroom. he schooled rosen and led walrath to the logical conclusion to rule in our favor. case law was clear and irrefutable. go susman. go judge walrath.
hammer, how can we milk a cow that was stolen from us to begin with? i think the only nanny here IS JPMC! 55% milked so far by jpmc. boy.. rosen surely showed his true colors today and you know judge heard every slight. this was a good day for the ec and shareholders. bye bye bye BOD!
i think that post seizure remark by rosen said volumes and the response of the shareholder saying he owned a million at .20 says volumes too. and he sought counsel to fight for his rights prior to proposed jpm settlement. who spends $200,000 on a common bankrupt stock unless there is equity and viability there for future growth? i think that spoke volumes to walrath. the stock is golden and people know it to include rosen.
with the new legislation geithner and bernanke are trying to get pushed through, credit unions would also be under the "systemic risk" umbrella also. this had better not go through or the american taxpayer will be the pocketbook for the world's risk from now on. nor will govt have to prove their findings just that it is what it is. thats why wamu will be the last bank along with the holding company, that will be vindicated. the new legislation leaves no recourse for the seized banks in the future to fight back. very scary.
viva, i checked the ibox and saw the cusip number for pq. did the cusip number change when it fell into bk or is it the same scenario as wamu? and with the gs collusion coming to light what is your take on the preferreds. i am certainly in parlay mode with the 1.75 buys on friday. what is your take on the accounting firms bogus numbers to facilitate the takedown and how that could affect or possibly reverse this? tia.
the street.com also said "sophisticated investors" could see 400.00 to 600.00 a share for preferreds also.
with all the collusion coming to light with goldie and barclays....could this takedown be reversed? and if not how will shareholders be compensated for being thrown overboard? obviously facts and figures were suppressed. now will we see some clawback?