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Thanks allwaysright.... In my analysis of SSTP I'm using $.025/Kwh... but the company says $.12/kwh.. That is a huge difference to the bottom line... I also cannot figure out why someone in MA would pay $.12 for green while LA $.025?
It would seem to me if the actual electricity doesn't have to go along.. Why would someone pay more?
I just don't understand all these green tags yet.
Anuybody know who SSTP will/is using to cert the
Renewable Energy Certificate (REC)? TIA
Alwaysright? TIA
Of course.. maybe you need a plant first. SO anyone that does DD calling the cert guy may be wasting time?
Just want PP, ee to verify the $1 CREDIT!
did ya'll read that IRS form?
Please answer... Just want to make sure there is Noooo confusion about this this income stream
Thanks to all helping my DD!
eelfland...
- demonstrate 5 gallons in 8.5 minutes
- A chance to see progress on new machines
- A chance to ask questions about many subjects
Have you looked at the way DYMTF.OB has raised capitol and compared to USSE? What is a better way for the company? TIA
Has SSTP said who they will be using?
cause Green-e is the nation's leading independent certification and verification program for renewable energy....
Who else did you call? TIA
BTW good DD question for the show!
Thanks to all that have help form my opinions...
good night.
LOL... I'm hoping we have better yield...
thus making them weak competiton.. LOL..
It's a global martket these days....
They are a great compare though.. nice chart they have. Coulda turned $10K into $60K what in 3 or 4 yrs?
If the chart's don't show...goto here and leave this window open... http://www.profitspi.com/
Kippykai.. that spread was to help try and find reality... on known facts... and the 50 cents was designed to show PP that USSE could in fact sell the biofuel at 50 cents and fert at zero with the tax incentives. BTU crap aside....
If you play around with the prices you might be amazed.
If USSE sells SSTP at higher price, then SSTP suffers on COGS.
I've even thought they could take USSE to a reporting company and SSTP stay pink.. show huge profits in USSE only to hide SSTP red ink. Not that they would do it...
Hey PP.. thought I'd help your DD...
http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f8864.pdf
Now check that doc out and read the part that says.....
Line 8
Include this amount in income, under “other income”
on the applicable line of your income tax return.
And please explain why you'd enter a credit under other income?
Just like the fed to charge tax on this.. Funny stuff they do.. give us money then tax that money.. why not just give it to us? the exact amount they want to give us...
Somebody please check me.. TIA
Humm?
They make biofuel
They use the biofuel to make electricity
What if I see 100 bushes in and 500 gallons out?
We'll ya believe?
gonna try and get sample to take with us...
Which brings up a good point... the 50/50 part..
what do they pay for the other off-road 50% part?
<Now if they can produce five gallons of a biodiesel equivelant from just one bushel of soybeans, they really will likely have something valuable.>
yep
We'll know at the show?
Did you really mean to say that?
LOL.. here I'm just now starting to feel good about it...
and you're not...
It's crazy isn't it?
I would like to see....
- Make the fuel in production Qty's at 8.5 min/ bush
- put that same fuel in a generator
- measure the gal/hr and Kwh
Kinda boils down to what 500 and longs been saying...
let make a sale....
I think they've been saying all along that it will be to Vidallia...
and in general, the number make some sense...
I think it boils down to proven production... Which is the next show...
and will this fuel work in the generator? at what gal/hr.
You are way over thinking the BTU stuff.. It will be proven when it works in the generator.
Earned Income Tax Credit..
huhh? you know what this is?
free money check to ya... with some kids..
Offset taxes may be incorrect assumption please read it again.
Thanks David...
but what does this mean?
"If the blender does not have liability they can claim a refund."
That tells me, if I paid no taxes then I still get the refund. The whole idea is to find alturnative fuels.
Please read it again.. I check another mfg sec filings...
Hey PP look at this and let me know what you think?
what looks wrong.. TIA
http://www.geocities.com/syte.storage/RiveraCostModelUSSErev6.xls
oopss forgot to include the possible price for da fert!
Has the company given guidance on any chance of earnings? TIA
I cannot help but think if Dynamotive Energy forges on...
and do it with a little 2.5MW gen...
Don't see ee, pp and the gang over at that board with all the sarcastic remarks? huh?
The competition is slightly ahead....
4/3/07 plant is about completed
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/941625/000094162507000010/guelphwestlorne20070404.txt
11 cent kWh of green power to the mounties...
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/941625/000094162507000006/opastandardoffer20070228.txt
Oh airdale1... we all know by now
JR love to talk stuff like this... He's excited! He hasn't PR'd it or anything...
Ya'll have a great day!
Tax man a callin....LOL
I have not looked real hard at upcoming laws...
It's in JR's presentations... That damand alone may make a difference...
I keep thinking of what comes first type stuff.....
chicken or da egg
Seems like in about every production facility....
Do we buy the machine first then try and sell it out?
or
Do we pre-sell first, then buy the machine? Customers always say you build it and I will buy... but most don't want to make commitment before... only in rare occasions it seems.
I hope he doesn't show up...
cause the guy I have coming down hates Al Gore... LOL
Admit more to be known....
but will know much more after da visit.
After looking very hard at all this the past week.. Thinking now if they make a product that runs in those gens... It will have some economic value.
You want to see my latest spread?
You don't think they want to sell a machine?
Humm what how long does it take to filter 5 gallons?
and if the production line is going they gotta have a all that set-up to filter...
I say they must do the things I suggest for a good show..
If not then folks like PP, ee, sting, other continue to doubt and blast away.. technical validity will still be question IMO
Go get'm Z.. LOL
but watch'm they want you in Jail!!!
Now there over there beatin up on Z..
I must too admit...
the shear qty was eye opening... but that post was not very nice.... and on Sunday!
You don't really think Z "talked" them into the 100K do ya? That's funny
IMO.. Redwood is Responsible. They know the games played with these pinks... they knew what was gonna happen.. A shorter pays someone like a PP to make some very good opposing post.. maybe even yourself sting.. because all this technology is so new.. and the funds are being raised via pink.. I guess they felt it was worth the money...
What additional stuff they gotta do to it?
What is an ICE?
You know PP... It's post like that is the reason folks don't like you.
It's a "smart ass" type post.
so what if it's not exactly on time.. (if that was even an Official promise date) Do they have total control over something like that?
It's your writing tone man.... Just tryin to help ya out
Anybody know the 24th's itinerary? TIA
Dear Mr. Rivera, Unfortunately, I personally will be unable to attend the plant day on April 24, 2007. However, I may be sending a representative should the itinerary warrant. I would be greatly appreciative to see the agenda for the day. Also, after doing some due diligent on your company, the following is what I would be very pleased to witness. - Make 5 gallons of Biofuel in 8.5 minutes. - Take that same biofuel and place in a generator - Take that same generator and measure kWh Witnessing the above would satisfy validity for me and truly be great accomplishment toward improving the world! Yours truly, D Giff Stockholder in USSE
Please Mr. Rivera.....
- Make 5 gallons in 8.5 minutes
- Take that same 5 gallons and place in a generator.
- Measure the kWh in that same generator.
Proof...
See any holes in that PP?
That would knock me out! Maybe even double my stake..
Nice chart pro...
I think we should book mark that chart to see if it comes true!