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You'll onky know at some time in the future if you bought at the low or hight. We'll all find out in time.
Good news prompted selling? Please explain.
I thought the shorts were supposed to be scared into BUYING on good news.
You ask "Dividends coming?"
Since they are yet to post a profitable quarter ever, dividends are highly unlikely.
So you do not dispute the facts I posted.
Interesting company - keeping their financials secret.
They must be super successful to want to do that.
What do you recommend for those who are not shareholders, but just want to buy a stock in order to sell and make some moeney? Stay away from TEVE as once you become a TEVE shareholdes you will not want to or be able to sell?
A couple of facts about TEVE
1. There is no evidence of any shorted shares.
2. There is evdence that there are NO shorted shraes:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/OTCE_Short_Interest.asp and enter TEVE
3. There is no evidence of profits as there have been no financials provided by the company this year.
4. Without profits there can be no dividends.
5. There are 616,435 shares in total, not 55,000
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/Info_Center.asp
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I have many hobbies. And investments.. This just happens not to be one. Just curious to see how it turns out.
Yes, having no hope would be bad, but your false hope is dangerous. Dividends! From a company that practically admitted last year that is was nearly bankrupt. And nothing new since.
This is about as futile a hope as looking to shorts being forced to buy in and raise the sp to thousands.
Have fun at the meeting.
I have no hopes here one way or the other. You keep claiming that the company is doing well without any information. That is hoping. Next week might tell.
This is what ;you're hanging your hopes on? How does this provide TEVE with any additional advantage? Anyway, next week may tell, but I doubt it.
And how would you know that when the last company statement came more than six months ago?
It's from the Telvue site but it's no indication of a profit or loss for the company.
By the way, are you serious about going to the AGM? What for?
There can be no manipulation without trading.
I meant wishful thinkking by posters claiming a Creamer recommendation. The company remains a mystery.
I don't believe he would mentin a stock that hasn't raded in months. No link provided as it doesn't exist. More wishful thinking.
Link?
Look for TEVE as one of CloudShares competitors in this Wiki article.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CloudShare
Some people here believe that TEVE has some proprietary advantage with "the cloud", That's like believing that some company has a proprietary advantage with the internet.
I would say that if you've been holding for ten years then you really don't know what's going on or you would have got out earlier and maybe gotten in now.
Please, no more advice. Not interested.
As I said, give me facts or forget it.
OK then do whatever you want. Clearly you are not able to consider anyone else's point of view.
Keep it up.
End of conversation.
Deal with what I consider facts in the last post and add or correct and not go on about other matters of belefs or opninons I may posted before which were simply the consequences of the facts. I dind't go on about the various claims and forecasts you made in your various posts.
Let's agree on facts first. You didn't do that. If you don't intend to do that then we can just continue with our various feelings and beleifs and never reach agreement on anything.
You want facts? We've had this discussion before. But here again is a list:
1. The company has gone dark.
2. The company has lost money every quarter since this message board has existed - several years
3. At the end of 2012 they had a few million dollars but said they needed more and said they were unable to raise any moneys.
4. Their sole supporter over the years Mr. L. converted his loans to the company to shares taking 93% of all shares.
5. Mr. L said that he would no longer support the company financially.
6. The company continues to signe new clients, but we have no idea if this helps with earnings
That's about it as far as I'm concerned.
Please correct any of the above which you feel are incorrect and add any that I may have missed. I'm looking forward to your response. It would be great to agree on a list of facts to help the discussion.
And let's not talk about how we feel about what's to happen next or how we feel about the company. That can perhaps follow once we agree on the facts.
Joe, what you're really saying is that you've had no impact on how the company conducted its business, which is understandable as you are just a shareholder and companies rarely listen to even large shareholders and you only hold around 1%.
I would suggest that you still have no impact on them and that as a shareholder you do not know what they are doing or how well they are doing until they make this info public (as you have said yourself.)
You talk about the cloud as if it was something that Telvue had some special advantage with.or perhaps even invented. Everyone is using the cloud It's just a central repository of information and a central computing capability that makes some operations more effective.
As you know, in order to survive in today's technology environment especially in areas of software or hardware you must have tremendous resources to compete against the big boys. TEVE does not have those resources as they admitted themselves in December. Agains as you know, hardware and softare must constantly be improved by companies to keep from falling behind. Those investments are measured in tens of millions if not more.
Seems to me TEVE is trying to survive by cutting costs and hoping revenues will be sufficient to keep them going. We shall see (maybe) how they're doing if they announce earnings figures at the meeting. Based on past pefromance their chances are slim. Not none, but slim.
Until there is evidence, and you've said you have no evidence of that, one must be extremely cautious with any new investment in TEVE. As for current shareholders there isn't much choice but to hang on and hope for the best as any significant selling will drive the sp back under a dollar.
I know you're happy whatever happens, most shareholders won't be happy if the company once again shows a loss and doesn't demonstrate clearly that they can continue for the longer term.
I don't feel sorry for you. I admire your attitude. Happy no matter what happens.
I haven't bought any. I thought you didn't want buyers. In any case my financial advisor storngly adivsed a wait and see attitude until financials come out.
I think it's best to wait for now. What's another few weeks. If they announce another losing quarter or make no finacial announcement, cheaper shares should be available soon. As you suggest, buy low and sell high.
Buying even lower is the way to go.
He's just a happy guy who doesn't need or care about money. What's wrong with that? Very Zen-like. I admire that.
He'll be just as happy after the annual meeting after another losing quarter is announced.
Oh ok. They seem to say the same the same things as you.
I meant you agree with longs on this board such as Alan and alen.
Thanks I'll try to remember that. Buy low, sell high. Buy low... sell hiigh. Got it.
There is no point investing a couple of thou that's going up 2000%.
I thought you agreed on all things TEVE.
Joe is right. TEVE is going to at least $500 which is why I'm putting $50K into it tomorrow.!
No they couldn't hurt the company. I was responding to Alan who said: "those that have tried to bankrupt the company"
Even if "they " did that that wouldn't hurt the company as it's not affected by its share price. It could hurt shareholders, but not the company.
True the second paragraph is a bit confusing, but that's what I meant.
What I'm saying is that if there were shorts and they depressed the share rpice they didn't hurt TEVE as the commpany never raised funds or sold shares to the public. All their money came from Mr. L. Those moneys owed to him were converted to shares at the price set by Mr. L and were largely unaffected by the shares price. Hence the shorts (if any) didn't hurt the company.
Hope that's clearer.
Shorts can hurt a company if they manage to depress the share price and the company has to issue more shares at lower prices to raise needed capital.
Since TEVE has been funded by Mr. Lenfest they've never had to go to the public to raise funds. If the shorts ( if any) if they hurt the company, helped Mr. L to the same degree. That would mean the Mr. L. hurt the company. I don't think he'd want to do that to the company he fully controls and owns 93% of.
What are you proposing to do at the meeting with your 1.2% voting share to protect shareholders?
Who are you protecting shareholders from and what are your protecting against?
Thanks Joe as I won't be able to attend.
Could you explain in a couple of sentences what this all means?
Comedy routine? I'm being entirely serious. Just like you are, I assume.
I think you shoulod use a smaller number than 55,000. Probably closer to 20,000 with the storng holders never sellng their shares. Maybe only 10,000. We'll see Tuesday.
Yaah, the shorts will be jumping out of skyscraper windows next week, no doubt.Keep your wits about you to make sure one doesn't land on you.