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It's certainly possible there was a 1 year clause seeing as there were several bits in the original Agreement blacked out even beyond the price "paid" and the timing is about right.
Technically, the cancellation on the 11th was several days short of the execution anniversary from the 15th but maybe that is just splitting hairs.
Or has been posited, maybe Adam thought some unhappy shareholders might actually show up at the family restaurant and said "eff this, let me out Frank, I'm obviously not getting anything done."
As far as money, someone has been selling shares ever since Adam took over. It wouldn't be far-fetched to think both Frank and Adam may have been participating in that.
And do keep in mind what chemist72 has already been thinking, as have I...
Frank has had way too many mergers fall apart just to recycle the shell again to think it is just a coincidence. At some point the pattern almost seems to suggest that perhaps that is in fact the business model. Just keep recycling them over and over. After all, the biggest money is always when there is a fresh merger introduced. And then it's always downhill from there. So maybe the move is simply introduce a fresh merger, let it die then fresh merger again. None of that boring-ass pretend that the company is actually slowly developing. Why bother when you can just start from scratch with a big pop again?
I don't think you are quite qualified to comment on DD.
Even after being corrected several times, for some reason you still think BLVS would be the new ticker if the changes go through.
It's not even one of the three proposed.
I always wondered how paint chips actually are to eat. Can you tell me, are they crunchy? Tangy? Melt in your mouth-y? Are they fine plain or do you put salt on them, boywonder1?
"They do it cause they’re paid to do it. "
Cha-CHING!
Congratulations, every basher on the board just earned a $5,000 cash bonus just by your mentioning that we get paid.
The bosses love it when they know we are being effective enough to be commented on.
Keep it up!
"Only lair I see is you"
Congratulations on misspelling a simple four letter word, that takes some kind of talent.
Interestingly, every time I am accused of being a liar there is never any accompanying evidence. Whenever I challenge the accuser to come up with some they suddenly ghost.
So I guess it's your turn now, huh, big boi?
Find some posts where I have lied and show everybody the quotes and the links to them. Let's see them.
Here, I'll make it easy, this is where you go for my "Latest Posts": https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profile.aspx?user=537756 and this is where you go for my "Boards Posted On": https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/profileb.aspx?user=537756
Take your time, see what you can find. Take 10 minutes, take an hour, take all morning, take all day, enjoy yourself. Heck, it's a Friday, take the whole weekend if you like.
Let's see what you can come up with.
Adam never paid a single penny for VNTH, I did find that revelation interesting.
1. You insisted the February tweet is proof there has been a merger candidate in the works this whole time.
2. The filing clearly states there is no merger in the works at all and searching hasn't even begun.
Both of those things cannot be true. Therefore George is lying in one of them.
I maintain that the February tweet was actually vague enough to give him an out if say, in a court of law, My interpretation gives him an out and doesn't make him a liar.
Your interpretation makes him a liar one way or the other.
Toodles!
According to your logic George was either lying in the tweet or lying in the filing.
Go ahead, try to explain how that is incorrect.
I'm guessing you won't because you can't.
Toodles!
You could not come up with any specific examples which is what I asked for.
Instead you had to fall back and claim vague generalities as a result. That's not a "win". That's a lameass cop-out.
Go ahead, come up with some specific examples.
Unless of course you actually cannot.
Congratulations for devolving into bashing other stocks on the GVSI board. At one time I thought maybe you were kinda sorta respectable, I guess I was wrong.
The several times you have asked me for a serious response I have responded. It's not my fault you underestimated my understanding and logical skills and went away dejected by the answers.
"I can't find anywhere where he lied so I'll just proclaim he's a con artist that twists and turns!"
That's a bitchass move.
Try getting better at choosing what to argue.
"I'm laughing so hard at the arrogance"
LMAO, from the guy that insisted he knew which was slander and which was libel when he did not and has been posting "GVSI/BLVS" for weeks and weeks when BLVS isn't even one of the choices George submitted to FINRA.
Yeah, we got a real rocket surgeon here on the GVSI board pretending he knows what the future holds for GVSI.
Laugh while you can.
It certainly has not happened within the time frame that had been pumped.
Unfortunately FINRA does not announce publicly if corporate action requests are denied. Or if they "have comments", to placate those types.
It would be up to George to announce it.
So you cannot come up with a specific example of "twist and turn", that's what I thought.
"had waited about 38 business days. I am guessing GVSI could show up on the FINRA daily list as early as this week or next week. " - HokieHead, Sunday, August 27, 2023 https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172696426
"38 business days means this week or next." - HokieHead, Wednesday, August 30, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172720568
"in 38 business days. It could come at any time at this point. " - HokieHead, Thursday, August 31, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172730289
"Also I just showed an example of a name and ticker change in 38 business days" - HokieHead, Thursday, August 31, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172731863
"a ticker had a FINRA name/ticker change in 38 business days" - HokieHead, Thursday, August 31, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172734459
"a tickers have gotten approval in 35-38 business days" - HokieHead, Monday, September 04, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172750139
"a ticker that completed a name/ticker change in about 35-38 business days" - HokieHead, Monday, September 04, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172750154
Yesterday was 38 business days and it has come and gone without a name/ticker change for GVSI.
What did I "twist and turn"? Be specific, let's hear it.
You seem hell-bent on the February tweet being proof that a specific merger target has been in the works this whole time.
I maintain that the tweet is actually ambiguous enough if you examine it very carefully to absolve him of liability if things don't turn out the way perhaps implied.
And now months later the filing states that there is no merger anticipated and a search has not even started. Mind you, the filing does not seem to demand full details of any anticipated merger, perhaps only the existence of one, at the least.
If I am right then George has been perhaps a little fast and loose with wordplay but hasn't actually done anything wrong to the point of legal liability. Mind you, I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.
If you are right then he has straight-up lied, either in the tweet or in the filing, because they are not in agreement with each other.
We're all adults here, well most of us; if you want to call George a liar then that certainly is your prerogative.
It is someone with limited funds doing small paint jobs to make the price look like it's doing better than it is for a moment at a time.
The notable amounts are meant to dupe the naive into thinking that someone in the know must be broadcasting "codes" as if something is about to happen.
But nothing is.
In other words, it's just a brokeass bagholder with a zero-commission Fidelity account acting out of desperation.
Have you read the most recent filing? Make sure to check it out for yourself so you know that I am not lying nor exaggerating in any way: https://www.otcmarkets.com/otcapi/company/financial-report/378041/content
Page 2:
List any stock split, stock dividend, recapitalization, merger, acquisition, spin-off, or reorganization either currently anticipated or that occurred within the past 12 months:
NONE
Page 17:
We have incurred nominal operations since custodianship and will actively search for suitable merger candidates to assist in the sustaining of operations.
These two bits in the filing indicate that there is no currently anticipated merger and that George has not even started looking - he "will", future tense. These statements cover through August 7 as indicated in the Subsequent Events statement on page 19.
As far as the tweet, when you critically examine it, notice that he said back then "Now that $GVSI is current, we can move forward with discussions". To a casual reader this certainly seems to imply that discussions are forthcoming but it does not literally say that they are forthcoming. The word "can" simply means to have the ability to.
He did not say "we will move forward with discussions". He only said "we can".
There goes your "liability" argument out the window. He never actually said that discussions were incoming. He only implied it, if that was the interpretation some might walk away with. Which is obviously the interpretation a starry-eyed OTC wannabe millionaire would take away with them.
So George was lying in the filing? Okay, your opinion is noted.
The TA for the company is available on the OTCM Security Details page. You can click on it to check out all the other companies they also TA for.
In this case the TA is still Verifying for other companies, so one conclusion could be that the company instructed the TA to shut it off for them. If the TA also refuses to disclose the share structure when you contact them them directly then one might consider that being gagged, IMO.
Yes, the inevitable will happen. Pretty much by definition.
But pretending to know what that future holds when it has not happened yet is the mark of the insane or of the liar.
No one knows if FINRA will process the name/ticker change. However there has been no evidence presented so far that would indicate George has been able to take care of the Notice of Deficiency that torpedoed the last attempt.
If this attempt fails as well then it would not be outlandish to think that the ticker would then be toast. Who in their right mind would try in the future to do anything with it if even George "OMG Savior of the OTC" Sharp couldn't get anything done with it?
LMAO then why is there so much consternation about the negative posts on the GVSI board? Some posts practically cry "leave my stock alone!" like they're invoking their mommy to come help.
So what was George's "job description" when he was a consultant for OTCM? Or do you even know? I think you're just making up fantasies here. No surprise.
If things were so going so swimmingly for GVSI it's chart wouldn't look as horrendous as it does.
Why didn't they sue OTCM back in November 2022?
Why have they not sued them any time since?
Wouldn't that fall within the officer's fiduciary duty instead of sitting around watching the share price plummet since?
Or do they not have a case this whole time and they know it.........
I guess the commentary in these GVSI SEC documents is wrong and a lying ihubber is right, is that what I am supposed to believe?
https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/apdocuments/3-19407-2023-05-17-app-not-withdr-applic.pdf
"This matter involves an appeal from a determination by the Financial Industry Regulatory Authority
("FINRA") under FINRA Rule 6490 to deny the application of Good Vibration Shoes, Inc. ("GVSI") to
FINRA for certain corporate actions."
https://www.sec.gov/files/litigation/apdocuments/3-19407-2020-09-16-reply-finra-opposition-application-good-vibration-shoes.pdf
"granting for this particular counsel at least four such applications before denying this one"
How about some quotes from a securities lawyer that uses the phrase "deny" - is she also wrong and a lying ihubber is right?
https://www.securitieslawyer101.com/2018/finra-enforcement-of-non-members-in-penny-stock-issuers/
"So in the end, the SEC remanded the proceeding to FINRA to determine the status of the individuals in question, and to determine whether denying the name change was necessary for the “protection of investors and the public interest."
"The Commission believes that the proposed factors are reasonably designed to allow FINRA to deny a request to process a Company Related Action based on the above-noted objective criteria"
"It can scrutinize corporate action requests, and deny them in some circumstances."
But FINRA can and does in fact refuse to process Corporate Action requests when they deem appropriate. That's why the Cutler SEC appeal that George withdrew existed in the first place. FINRA did not process their request. They put a stop to it. They put the kibosh on it. They halted it. They ended it. They ixnayed it.
If Cutler had been able to come up with the missing filings then perhaps FINRA would process the actions. But nope...
I guess some of us just use the word "deny" because it's more efficient than saying "refuse to process". But in the end it's the same result, no matter how much one may deny it. Oh sorry, "refuse to acknowledge" it.
Name a lie.
"If FINRA has a comment about it, Sharp's team will rectify it."
If FINRA still wants to see those missing 6 years of filings then, no, Sharp's team will not simply "rectify it". He has already communicated that it is impossible to come up with them.
Still waiting on your answer as to how the new rules apply in this situation. It sounds more like you were just throwing that out there hoping that the dumb and the naive fall for the claim with no backing to it whatsoever. Again, here's a link to them for your convenience: https://www.otcmarkets.com/learn/15c2-11-resource-center
"We gave several examples of recent Ticker/Name Changes recently, all had a deficiency"
You have never provided an example of a name/ticker change when there was an unresolved FINRA Notice of Deficiency. You keep trying to throw out the word deficient and pretend it's the same as an official Notice of Deficiency but it is most assuredly not. That is an attempt to mislead the dumb and the naive and is extremely dishonest. It's a lie.
"You guys are ignoring the fact that the OTC rules changed in 2021 "
Where in the new rules does it say that an unresolved FINRA Notice of Deficiency magically no longer applies? Please, point it out for everybody. Here's the link for your convenience: https://www.otcmarkets.com/learn/15c2-11-resource-center
It wasn't the lack of current financials that blocked the name/ticker change at the time. It was specifically the lack of those 6 past years. And that has never been fixed.
Just being pink current now doesn't make those missing filings magically *POOF* into existence. They are still missing, and George has not released anything indicating that he has somehow overcome that.
He would be required to announce that if he had as that would be quite a material event.
"since GVSI is so bad and I shouldn’t buy more"
Those are your words, not mine. Buy more if you like. Don't if you like. Or just pretend to again if you like.
"tell us all then what ticker to buy"
How many times do I have to again explain to you that I do not tell people what to buy? I'm not a lying pumper. Stop begging, it's unbecoming.
"since you “won’t post what your broker knows” here"
What does that even mean? Are you day drinking, my man?
"Your broker, I hear Dean Witter calling you, better answer. "
Are your marbles where they are supposed to be? It kinda seems like you might have lost them.
Take a look at the chart, you should be begging for better pumpers instead.
Have I ever claimed otherwise?
Go ahead, try to find a quote that I have. Search long and and hard in my history. Spend all morning. Heck, spend all day. Spend all week if you like. Nothing is stopping you. Go nuts.
Oh, the delicious irony of calling me stupid when you yourself don't seem capable of comprehending what I have or have not said.
"impotent opinions"
Yet there is so such concern that I air them. Obviously they do in fact bother the hell out of the lying pumpers.
"hatred for Sharp"
Why would I hate Sharp? I've never even met him. Look at you revving up the lie counter this morning.
"I'm buying more GVSI!"
Knock yourself out. It makes absolutely no difference to my existence if you do. Or even if you don't and are actually lying about it. My day stays exactly the same.
"The guy has never shown he can pick or make a winning trade"
I have also never shown I can pick or make a losing trade. This is because I do not "make picks" at all. This has been explained to you many times over, maybe someday you will actually understand that not everyone is a lying pumper like you.
"just goes around and tells people what not to buy."
I have never instructed people not to buy something. Go ahead, try to find a single quote where I did. Knock yourself out. Hint: you won't find one because I never have. This is just another lie coming from you.
"So folks spreading spew like you where it will take 6 months minimum is complete garbage."
I have never said it will take 6 months minimum. Once again, go ahead and try to find a quote where I said that. Enjoy yourself. And again, you won't find one. Because I have never said it. Goodness, the lies this morning.
"GVSI wouldn’t get current because it didn’t show 2 years of filings"
I wonder how many times now I have had to explain to you that your beef is with OTC Markets and the fact that they do not seem to follow their own published guidelines. Let me know how they respond when you lodge your complaint with them.
"there were issues with FINRA/SEC that would never be resolved"
I have never said "never". While you're searching for the other quotes that I have also never said, add this one to the list. But guess what? You won't find it. Because I have never said it. Man, these lies keep piling up.
"I’ve never made a winning trade"
Unless you work at all of my brokers you cannot possibly know anything about the entirety of my trading history. And since I have had plenty of winning trades I know that you do not. Once again, hoo boy, with all the lies this morning.
And it's still early.
"FINRA name/ ticker changes are averaging about 30-35 business days for it to happen." - HokieHead, Friday, August 11, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172570721
"This ticker got its name and ticker change with FINRA in about 35 business days. I’ve seen many others with the same time frame." - HokieHead, Monday, August 28, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172699478
"Could be as early as this week. This ticker changed in 35 business days." - HokieHead, Monday, August 28, 2023
https://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=172705548
Yesterday was 35 business days and it has come and gone without a name/ticker change for GVSI.
The same Sharp Legal Team with most of the share cancellations dismissed already and not a single one granted?
Wow, very impressive bunch there.