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Perceived risk is much lower for the debt holders now that the debt to equity ratio is under 1. This lowers the risk that the company will fail due to the debt load. Therefore there is no longer a rush to convert.
Forecast quarterly revenue 4-5 years out using a mix of company and industry growth estimates. Assume a net profit margin of 15% or so. Take that profit amount and value it as a perpetuity. If they are successful that's what a buyout would look like, and therefore mkt cap as well. Of course all cards are off the table if profit isn't reached soon.
Total assets as of 12/31 were $3.2m. Market cap is $3.5M. There is nearly no market value priced in at all.
This is a multi bagger for sure. The waiting game is a pain though.
Market cap should be over 50 million for sure. Divide that by outstanding shares.
Keep them coming. They'll end soon enough.
Update on The Vapor Group ($VPOR)
The company recently provided a guidance letter, indicating their first quarter revenues will beat last year’s, and underscoring the fact that 2014 sales beat 2013 by a staggering 125%. The audited financial report is due by May 15, 2015. Regarding outlook, revenue projections based on historical performance and industry estimates suggest that this company could bring in at least $8M USD for 2015. Reaching a cash flow positive state is possible this year as well, based on their significant 80%+ gross margin on sales. Looking to the future, industry experts expect the e-cig/vaping segment to mature around 2020, at which time they could easily be generating $50M+ in revenue. One could assume that big tobacco will try to aggressively enter/consolidate the space a few years from now, and mergers/acquisitions are to be expected. If they stay on this track, $VPOR shares could easily approach $0.04-$0.06 by the end of the year as market cap adjusts back to fair value.
The recent letter also acknowledged the balance sheet, and indicated that they have reduced their debt by 68% in the past three months, and that they had $1,441,314 left as of March 31, 2015. The stated goal is to have zero convertible debt by June 30, 2015, as they are approaching a cash flow positive (profitable) state and do not need to rely on such predatory financing for growth. Conventional doors will soon open up! This balance sheet cleanup will apparently be done through payments and debt-to-equity conversions, and if it is on track there is approximately $1.1M in debt left on the books. The industry and time The Vapor Group inhabits has placed them in a precarious position financially, but they have been able to grow and increase their market share, regardless of the headwinds.
At this point, the stock has been beaten into submission near par value by conversions, but it will rise again. Additional debt payments are expected in the coming weeks and strong earnings are due May 15. Anything under one penny will soon appear cheap, as the masses realize this company will soon be profitable and lean. I personally hold a core of this stock, and base my opinion on facts that have been given about the company and the industry. My one year price target is $0.05 per share.
Follow me and I'll send you the update privately every week.
At these levels average volume must stay above 40M to keep the convertible debt free train on track. Right now the 10 day average is in the 60s. Starting to see this ticker show up in more pump-ish articles that I could write better. Good. The converters want out. Let them out. $vpor will be one of the few companies to get out of the spiral.
Lol big tobacco caring about people's health? What a concept.
I like that we are starting to see additional applications for the product.
http://www.wsj.com/articles/take-a-deep-breath-if-you-want-to-try-competitive-vaping-1429646394
Mine is a Long term valuation of allll future revenue and assumption of profit. Will probably go lower as you said because they need some debt financing to grow and survive.
Good call, past me.
*raises hand*
See my previous posts...
I'd like to see a debt to equity ratio of less than 1:2 and a lockup of majority of preferred shares before any RS could be beneficial.
Funny how many ppl on here are from Florida ... Just saying
300k and 800k. Sorry.
4.5B AS and 2.7B OS ... $1.1M left to pay off. Expecting about $300m in payments and $800m in converts. Probably will end up with 3.2B OS if it stays down here... Less if it moves towards the .002 range.
Let's see how they're fast they're growing before making that conclusion.
Update on The Vapor Group ($VPOR)
The company recently provided a guidance letter, indicating their first quarter revenues will beat last year’s, and underscoring the fact that 2014 sales beat 2013 by a staggering 125%. The audited financial report is due by May 15, 2015. Regarding outlook, revenue projections based on historical performance and industry estimates suggest that this company could bring in at least $8M USD for 2015. Reaching a cash flow positive state is possible this year as well, based on their significant 80%+ gross margin on sales. Looking to the future, industry experts expect the e-cig/vaping segment to mature around 2020, at which time they could easily be generating $50M+ in revenue. One could assume that big tobacco will try to aggressively enter/consolidate the space a few years from now, and mergers/acquisitions are to be expected. If they stay on this track, $VPOR shares could easily approach $0.04-$0.06 by the end of the year as market cap adjusts back to fair value.
The recent letter also acknowledged the balance sheet, and indicated that they have reduced their debt by 68% in the past three months, and that they had $1,441,314 left as of March 31, 2015. The stated goal is to have zero convertible debt by June 30, 2015, as they are approaching a cash flow positive (profitable) state and do not need to rely on such predatory financing for growth. Conventional doors will soon open up! This balance sheet cleanup will apparently be done through payments and debt-to-equity conversions, and if it is on track there is approximately $1.1M in debt left on the books. The industry and time The Vapor Group inhabits has placed them in a precarious position financially, but they have been able to grow and increase their market share, regardless of the headwinds.
At this point, the stock has been beaten into submission near par value by conversions, but it will rise again. Additional debt payments are expected in the coming weeks and strong earnings are due May 15. Anything under one penny will soon appear cheap, as the masses realize this company will soon be profitable and lean. I personally hold a core of this stock, and base my opinion on facts that have been given about the company and the industry. My one year price target is $0.05 per share.
Update on The Vapor Group ($VPOR)
The company recently provided a guidance letter, indicating their first quarter revenues will beat last year’s, and underscoring the fact that 2014 sales beat 2013 by a staggering 125%. The audited financial report is due by May 15, 2015. Regarding outlook, revenue projections based on historical performance and industry estimates suggest that this company could bring in at least $8M USD for 2015. Reaching a cash flow positive state is possible this year as well, based on their significant 80%+ gross margin on sales. Looking to the future, industry experts expect the e-cig/vaping segment to mature around 2020, at which time they could easily be generating $50M+ in revenue. One could assume that big tobacco will try to aggressively enter/consolidate the space a few years from now, and mergers/acquisitions are to be expected. If they stay on this track, $VPOR shares could easily approach $0.04-$0.06 by the end of the year as market cap adjusts back to fair value.
The recent letter also acknowledged the balance sheet, and indicated that they have reduced their debt by 68% in the past three months, and that they had $1,441,314 left as of March 31, 2015. The stated goal is to have zero convertible debt by June 30, 2015, as they are approaching a cash flow positive (profitable) state and do not need to rely on such predatory financing for growth. Conventional doors will soon open up! This balance sheet cleanup will apparently be done through payments and debt-to-equity conversions, and if it is on track there is approximately $1.1M in debt left on the books. The industry and time The Vapor Group inhabits has placed them in a precarious position financially, but they have been able to grow and increase their market share, regardless of the headwinds.
At this point, the stock has been beaten into submission near par value by conversions, but it will rise again. Additional debt payments are expected in the coming weeks and strong earnings are due May 15. Anything under one penny will soon appear cheap, as the masses realize this company will soon be profitable and lean. I personally hold a core of this stock, and base my opinion on facts that have been given about the company and the industry. My one year price target is $0.05 per share.
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I, too, have new information. This is no longer an airplane parts company. It's an alternative nicotine delivery company with a hand in the MMJ industry. Two industries looking to explode.
$vpor market cap is a million bucks short of their last years revenue, yet their industry is supposed to grow 20%+ quarterly for the next 5-10 years.
The light at the end of the tunnel is near. Don't kid yourself.
$mcig is a buy at .06 - I've been saying this for how long now....
Re read the side agreement. It's good for vpor. It's the beginning of the disposal of Magna. Please enlighten yourself.
And guess what Magna matures in about a week. They'll probably be more open to a cash payment for their last note.
Lol. Conversion will happen every week from now thru June. That's not news. It's still going to trade in a channel. The ONLY chance it has of going into trips is if you scare enough people into panic selling. Dilutors will not take it that low. Better chances of taking a pmt from the company.
What new info???
Based on the last two rounds. History will repeat itself when conditions are unchanged.
Not happening. Back to .003 now.
$vpor will revisit .003 shortly.
Absolutely. This is the ground floor. Congratulations.
Locked and loaded. It can go up now.
Could be anyone. They switch it up.
I agree. Hanover had roughly 900k left on 12/31. Original Notes were 21k, 350k, 400k and 550k roughly. 65-70% of total payables has converted since then. They represent about 1/3 of the remaining debt by my count but are all anyone is taking about.
Thanks. Understanding that they've been converting as BMAK, id reckon they're just about done with the 3rd of 4 notes. BMAK hasn't been as destructive as VFIN but it would be good to see one of them gone.
Regardless a PR would be nice to see when they finish with that note.
We will find out May 15.
Using March 31 as the start date and June 30 as debt free date there is roughly 1.1m of debt left of the reported 1.4m.
Expect a large payment announcement around 4/29 when Hanover actually matures. Could see the last 1/4 paid off. This would mean BMAK goes away in early May.
Likelihood of large payment goes up if so.
What is the actual maturity date from Hanover? Isn't that next week?