is figuring out how he's going to end up losing all his money... too many consecutive green days is going to bring forth some AWFUL karma...
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I'm not trying to label myself as a basher... I mean... if they started giving verifiable evidence of their existance and everything I could definitely start believing in this company.
That being said... I am noticing much more volume today and on previous PR days while the pps remains, or goes down. I'm not accusing anything, just observing.
In their defense though... they didn't JUST start announcing Mine reclamation stuff...
I'm not sure if they started announcing mine reclamation in their December 18, 2008 pr, but it was in there... so this isn't necessarily new.
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=35905334
Click on the "Company Info" tab
It's the 5th section down on the right side.
Again, I'm not saying they don't exist... just that I couldn't find any information on them in the 5 minutes I spent using Google, BBB, Yellow Pages, etc. Perhaps they moved?
I also didn't look back to see if anyone mentioned looking this accounting firm up after it showed up in that 2nd quarter filing... sorry if this was already discussed...
I have never checked up on Bauer & Associates, but I just looked it up and found this:
http://www.pinksheets.com/pink/quote/quote.jsp?symbol=anvh
Auditor/Accountant
Bauer & Associates
2500 Elliott Avenue
Seattle, WA 98121
Then I looked it up on yellowpages.com... but nothing turned up:
http://www.yellowpages.com/name/Seattle-WA/bauer
I'm not saying they don't exist... but maybe IF they were at that location before, they moved. I work at a private firm with 9 employees in my office and we show up on yellowpages, so I can't think of any other reason for them to not be on there other than a change of location.
...So ultimately I didn't answer your "What's their phone number" question...
It was both... has to be a buyer and a seller. It looks like it may have been a bidwack, but I'm not positive
I know this website is not necessarily correct, but it is kind of interesting that both companies have the same information listed. I'm not sure how the information gets posted to this website... BUT... it is kinda funny...
Comparison:
http://dnb.powerprofiles.com/search?keyword=anviron&location=&sls=&yrs=&emps=&sort=
Hey, I was able to Google "Anviron" and "Texas" and came up with another company with the same name about 350 miles from Marfa, Texas.
http://dnb.powerprofiles.com/profile/048494012/ANVIRON-ABILENE-TX
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=d&source=s_d&saddr=Marfa,+TX&daddr=2111+Beechwood+Ln,+Abilene,+TX+79603&hl=en&geocode=&mra=ls&sll=32.473238,-99.765365&sspn=0.011441,0.016501&g=2111+Beechwood+Ln,+Abilene,+TX+79603&ie=UTF8&t=h&z=7
Kinda funny, but I'm sure it is just a coincidence...
oh my and look at the volume traded today... 16 MILLION+... yet the price still remains at .0043.
I really am curious to hear the reports from the TA after this week.
I believe he's referencing the rail car you mentioned they use to ship their product:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/replies.aspx?msg=32652051
[sarcasm]Obviously none of the bashers have been following through with their questions and concerns.[/sarcasm]
I believe Greedy has already mentioned talking with the SEC and even invited the mod of this board into the conference call.
In addition... myself and others have TRIED to look for evidence to support claims of an actual production facility. Just because it is impossible to find physical proof via telephone and internet... doesn't mean that we (people that think this is a sham)don't follow through with our questions.
Of course there's constant complaining going on here. Nothing ever gets answered here... maybe if our questions and suspicions were met with concrete evidence of production facilities and audited financials we wouldn't complain as much. I don't really post much on this board because I'm not a stockholder. If I were a stockholder then I'd be definitely complaining and sweating until I found out whether or not the company I invested my hard earned money in actually exists.
In pinky land always be suspicious of whether or not the company you are investing in is a sham...
Is that it? Or could it be that after a period of "bashing" Anviron decides to come out with a vague pr to try to stimulate interest and bring people back in?
I don't necessarily see a pattern in the negative posting... it seems pretty constant. All Anviron seems to be doing is answering with "if you don't like it, don't play it" and "we can't let you find out for yourself whether we have actual physical production facilities" and... "trust us, we are telling the truth."
I don't see anyone ever answering these questions, just making up excuses to why they "can't" answer them. Or they will answer with "we've already gone over this"... when it may have been brought up, but it was shrugged off with one of these vague answers that get us nowhere.
As a former shareholder and a lurker on this board... it seems to me that the bashing doesn't start just before a PR comes out... it seems like Anviron decides to PR after the "bashers" gain more ground than the promoters.
Just my opinion.
As for Anviron offices, it brakes out like this.
Accounting-Israel;
Sales:
(1)North Europe-Bremen, Germany;
(2)South Europe-Assisi, Italy;
(3)Middle East-Netanya, Israel;
(4)Africa-Addis Ababa, Ethiopia;
(5)SE Asia-Bangkok, Thailand;
(6) Asia-Hong Kong, China
Operations-Texas & (coming soon) Thailand
Admin-Netanya, Israel
So... their only operations facility currently is in Texas... where there is *supposedly* no public record of a facility?
8.2M shares traded today and the price dropped... may have to check with the T/A again in the morning to find out if the O/S went higher than 225M
woops... okay... all that reading of Polly's name... got the name stuck in my head. Have you heard an update yet from the T/A, Marlene?
Righty did you receive an email back from Polly yet?
Hey Righty, can you update the O/S in the Ibox?
I just emailed her yesterday and got this response:
Please note the issued and outstanding at current date is - 225,577,032
Regards,
Marlene.
Could we get an update on the O/S in the Ibox, moderators?
In September it got pumped up to over 3x value... that's when I started playing it
That is amazing shorts... and when the pps drops below .004, they would be looking at more than 100% gain from just the divy. lol... no brainer...
I thought the ex-dividend date was already passed... therefore you definitely would not get this dividend if you bought now:
http://www.otcbb.com/asp/dividend.asp?sym_id=ANVH&dDate=12/31/2008&sDateType=record_date
Obviously they are going to have the money from that email they got from the Nigerian Prince
I'm in at .365... wish I'd have gotten in earlier... GREAT volume today!
aka they want to make sure they have ways around people proving they are frauds... what better way to mask their supposed operations with a claim that they can't tell us where it is or anything else because it's all trade secret.
We have a picture that is claimed to be their facility... what would it hurt giving us an address to clarify that this building does exist. Until then, it's just a poorly taken photograph of an imaginary place where they "manufacture" their products.
Doesn't that mean nil until we see audited financials?
I believe what greedy malone wanted was an address to the facility so that he could rest assured that a facility does in fact exist.
These places that you've referred to... do they hide the address to their manufacturing facilities? My father-in-law works for Baxter who most definitely has trade secrets, but the location of their facility is no mystery.
I think we understand the concept of a trade secret... I just don't know how trade secrets can be forfeitted by giving someone an address to your manufacturing facility.
No sir. But technically she didn't tell me anything about the facility... she would not tell me an address or anything... I responded back:
"Polly Anderson,
I have read rumors of what you said. Could you give me an address to assure myself and other investors that this plant exists?
Thanks in advance,"
Then Polly replied,
"I regret that I do not have the authority to release that information at this time. I would suggest you contact Dr. Fischer or Mr. Steve Young and discuss this point of inquiry with them.
I am just an employee, and this subject is a hot button with the management.
Good luck with your inquiry."
It looks to me gm that this building will be harder to find than Area 51.
I apologize for not explaining what I asked... I asked Polly:
"To whom this may concern:
Hello, I have been an active investor in this company in the past. I do not, however, hold any shares at this time. It appears that someone from your company has been in direct contact with members of a message board on a site known as "Ihub." Moderators of this board have provided photographs claiming to be of your "Marfa Property." However, in the past, two of the photographs posted have been proven fakes. Thus, the validity of the rest of the photographs naturally comes into question.
I understand your company very well may have no ties to these pictures. I'm not suggesting that your company does not have a facility in this region. Can you provide any information that would validate that these pictures are infact your facility? The link to the message board containing said photographs is provided below:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/board.aspx?board_id=8607
Thanks in advance,"
My email response from "Polly":
"A Mr. Moshe Goldberg was granted permission to visit our Texas facilities and take pictures, these pictures have been provided to the modorator of Ihub.
These postings were done without company authorization and in violation of a Nondisclosure agreement Mr. Goldberg signed with our Firm."
One other thing I noticed about the pictures is that they really do not appear to be taken with the same camera. Why are they all different sizes and resolutions? It is my opinion that these pictures were taken from other websites (like the 2 proven false). The first two pictures (facing east and west) could have been taken by Moshe. They are the same size/resolution. If the rest were taken by Moshe, wouldn't they be of similar size/resolution? If I were to open up 5 pictures in Microsoft Paint and add text to them, the dimensions and the resolution would remain the same...
wow any idea on why the pop today?
I just don't see how we are going by what these guys keep "saying". Can you ask them for verifiable proof? I would ask, but have been unable to receive a response in the past... as I understand greedy malone has as well. Since it's so easy to have a conversation with them, can you get an address or something so we can prove what they say is true?
It is my opinion that the rest of those pictures were copied from other sites, edited in paint to include text (very elementary job btw), and posted here for all to see. Of course, it is merely my "opine" and has not been proven otherwise. I don't know how two of the hijacked pictures were found on a google image search or w/e... God knows I've tried google image searching to find some more of these pictures to no avail:
http://investorshub.advfn.com/boards/read_msg.aspx?message_id=32468571
I have no faith that this is a real company. I'm not a stuckholder, just one who comes back now and again to see if they have provided information that a company that cares about it's shareholders would.
I'm with you gm, give us an address for the facility so that we can look it up on Google Earth. Then we could atleast tell if at least one of the facility pictures are valid... or someone could pay them a visit.
This dip isn't helping my december 5 calls...
is anyone else seeing the formation of an ascending triangle on the 30 min and 60 min?
Yessir it is... the very xHughx on Panetta's chat that you informed of this great investment... I wish I'd have bought the .05-.10s you got, but I'm happy with the .20s that I've been holding since monday!
Didn't close at HOD, but still a great close nonetheless. I'm holding dec 5 calls that are ITM. Can't wait to see what happens the rest of the week!
I picked up some RIMM Jan 60s... I hope this new blackberry does wonders for the stock
sweet... I asked when it was 1.40 now it's 1.57
I got CHRS on my pinch scan Friday or so... what do you guys/gals think of it?
They keep holding this one back... a couple times it almost started a rally then came right back down really fast. I don't know what's up with this... but I have 32 more days on my Dec 2.50 calls, so lets see what happens