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boy... she could really deal rosen and the boys a hand they cant play. what better than shareholder meeting to replace BOD members, and motion for examiner all in one big push to make rosen put up or shut up. he is definitely boxed. and his own arrogance did him in. the truth will prevail and i think alot of people will turn on each other to stay out of jail for their testimony. it was very telling when it was asked why they would take a tenth of what they were owed. maybe the back end deal waiting in the wings? to do in shareholders so they split more of the money? think so and judge knows it too. shareholders are your clients too!!!!!
tell that to my bank account. they are very much alive and will see back divis also! you're like charlie browns teacher....wah, wah, wah. all comment no content!
fits like a glove. thats why rosen put a clause in so no one would prosecute them for wrongdoing. rosen is playing with fire and better settle soon. he's going to end up in the pokie!
walrath is in the drivers seat now!!! the noose is tightening rosen. settle now!!
i absolutely agree!!
i believe he does! anything documented and stamped by the court he sees.
you need to add on lehpq's too when they open up. they said that 21billion was only 3 percent of assets so far. looks like this one will fire up jun29th!
jerle are you adding to your 100,000 shares common? i am so spent right now but if i had another 100,000 dollars i certainly would sink it in too! good morning to you by the way!
he could drop that PhD's numbers from university of chicago too! he worked for the fdic as an advisor. she has his estimates documented. judge walrath i believe has just boxed rosen in. $$$$ soon! i love wamu!!!! and thank you GOD for blessing me twice. once with saving my life and now with this stock and this shareholder family on investorhub!
thats why that fdic attorney was stonewalling today. he said fdic had nothing to do with these proceedings and they would not be giving up attorney priveleged information. he will if judge orders the examiner. i just think once thats announced, a settlement will happen and happen fast. they said that rosen turned whiter than white, when confronted by walrath about appointing the examiner, since he did not hand over docs. this is certainly turning into a pressure cooker. susman, i feel is going to file something brilliant that not even rosen can spin his way out of and force a settlement. susman is a brilliant closer. he doesnt mince words. and he ia a huge defender of constitutional rights against agencies or corporations that try to circumvent them for monetary favor. susman is one step ahead of everyone. dont think just because he wasnt there, he wasnt working on the case. nelson said he was going to file an appeal for the examiner regardless the outcome. i think susman's next move is going to be earth shattering to rosen. and when susman feels his presence is needed he will be there. nelson did an outstanding job today. i think settlement is very near. jmo
i agree with you. susman is doing a great job. and i think the filing for an examiner, is susmans way of hurrying up the inevitable. i feel judge saw the mistake she made and would rectify the ruling if filed for again. just her way of tightening the noose that much more. i saw a saying by gandhi on y board- First they shame you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win!- mahatma gandhi. i think we are at the WIN phase thanks to susman and walrath.
the judge told rosen that shareholders are clients also. he cant selectively pick who gets to divide the pot. it must be seen what the pot consists of first. and since they will not disclose any figures she continued. but she gave more reign to susman's camp for discovery against fdic and jpm. she talked of a smoking gun. and if that one paper susman is looking for, can be found, it should be.
i loved it when the judge said"the shareholders are on your side!" you ARE representing them? lol!!! she is one shrewd judge. this is going to blow up sooner than the 17th. when susman files for the examiner and a shortening of delay. watch rosen crap himself. the judge pretty much said to rosen...either shareholders are included in dividing the pot or i will rule for an examiner. take your pick! and he backed off. she called his bluff. we are in very good hands.
shes going after discovery!
i feel she gave the road map to susman and now hes got to follow it. as long as it "fits" what she was wanting last court date. i feel whatever susman needs will be approved. the fact that susman said he is having trouble getting docs from fdic and jpm will give her the teeth to rule on something. she wants this over thus the objection to the examiner. i feel susman has been one hell of an examiner. you can see that in his submission to the court. everything is there except what jpm and fdic and fed reserve should be releasing. and with the delay comes the wrath of walrath. i think rosen is going to get spanked. nothing he says, no excuse will suffice. judge is going to be pissed for dissing her. susman is going to gain major points in her book with the internal emails showing obstruction and collusion, and secrecy. and now with rosen playing judge for a fool will definitely backfire tomorrow imo. EC's are not appointed at the end of a bk because we were insolvent. there never was an issue with insolvency with the judge. she even said to rosen there is equity and cut him off mid sentence in court. she has given rosen the rope, the hanging i believe will happen tomorrow to put rosen out of his appeal happy misery. she has given him ample time to handle this and he has erroded estate monies and wasnt truly representing shareholders and the estate. i think he should be made to refund the money back to the estate for his crap he's pulled to milk wmi. i read there is another 1.86 billion jpm made off the NSS of wmi stock. funny how thats the amount they paid for wamu. i believe equity is extreme in ths case just like lehman seems to be. lehman post says 3.3% of equity is valued at 21 billion? but they are out of the money too? i think not. and i hope weil is ousted from there and susman slides on over after our case prevails.
yea, but they could subpoena the head of ots as to his conversations with bair. he told her she should not be in the business of pairing up banks to save their own hide. i think he could be a key witness in this.
she certaily had plenty of time to read the "private emails" submitted by susman. i think she gets the jest of the case. thus the ec and the ust. happy memorial day uz!
rosen and his clowns making a mockery of her court? i think she was letting rosen "run about the mouth" and let him hang himself on his own words. what better to hang him with than his own sworn testimony! judge walrath is shrewd and is always one step ahead of rosen. if she werent we wouldnt be here now with an ec and susman. she told rosen in court their was equity there. i heard her. withcatz is right there is no place she showed weakness in her courtroom. the fact that we didnt get an examiner was to our benefit. who better to do the shakedown than hugo black's understudy. hugo black was a staunch defender of the constitution and so is susman. he will hold jpm, fdic, ots,sec, goldman sachs...whoever he uncovers accountable. susman is brilliant! read the 140 page filing.that is brillant. seems he's doing a great job as our examiner!
fish, IB-FIG has something to do with hedging and exit strategy. look at "wallstreetoasis.com" also i think that guy, if he didnt work for santander,was a liason to banco santander. ive seen articles on him and it was correlating with banco santander.
fish, wasnt fernando rivas from banco santander? and wasnt the "ocean project" the ocean heights 1 skyscaper investment in dubai that jpmc was heavily involved with. thinking maybe they needed to fund "project middle east" with "project west" monies. jpmc contribution to "spread the wealth around._jmo.
yahoo board reporting that susman is going after paulson now!
yea castle, rosen is to the point of "fight or flight." i think flight. his appeals have run out and susman has him in a corner. has anyone confiscated his passport? madoff gave up before he was found out. rosen is lying thru his teeth and HAS been found out. susman is in the drivers seat. and walrath will understand by the submission of rosen and the rebuttal of susman, the case "has not been investigated to death" on purpose. and what rosen has stated in court as fact was in fact lies. i hope he goes to jail for these corrupt actions against the estate.
my husband called from washington. lehman is on the front page of the business section of usatoday! multibillion lawsuit against jpmc for takedown. guess that why the ask is 3.25 and not open for trading.
if they can go after rating agencies and accounting firms they certainly can go after attorneys colluding with the enemy to down the estate THEY are representing.
i would like for rosen and his firm to be fined on top of reparations to the estate then disbarred.
diamond, since rosen obviously did nothing but push paper and create delays for jpmc and fdic under the guise of "representing" wmi...cant we ask for a refund. he did not work for the estate only the good of jpm and fdic. isnt that collusion and fraud and can susman file for a return on funds to the estate for misrepresentation?
every billion helps! it cant hurt.
great job! that is absolutely awesome. i am so glad someone is making a mint. keep going this is far from over.
that is exactly what i was thinking! you confirmed it. calling jpm a buy sets up others to take the fall. they pump the stock. suckers buy in and then jpm shorts themselves. they know its going to go down and quickly when this case is announced. what crooks!
smart jerle! cash out on commons for quick cash and live off the pref divis for yearly income. remember bush tax cuts end jan 2011. so cash out of commons fast once they settle to beat the deadline! things are heating up and i dont think we'll see any of these prices in the near future. and dont forget the parlay. lehman just filed wrongful seizure on jpm. 8.6 billion plus damages! also goldman is being investigated too. get those pref under 2 while you can. leh pref is going to heat up also. next court date for them is jun 29th. im glad your not doubting the wmi stock anymore. it has been grueling but we are going to be rewarded big time. and with them rating jpm as a buy...someone is itching to get out of their positions because they know the sunami is coming! guess its time for the one-way to switzerland for ole JD before he ends up in orange! see you in the morning! p.s. check out vstnq also it has doubled about every two days and they are supposed to be out of bk in about two weeks. they are to the multiple submission stage of reorganization by all parties and they are fighting it out. good flipping stock. they are walking it back from 1.80 range and should hit 1 dollar to .80 cents maybe today who knows! i just love the pinks big bucks made for not alot of outlay!
wow, gn's walking on the wild side! those u's are going to bring you more money up front. but the pref shares will sustain thru the years with divi's. glad you are now onboard with commons! welcome.
jump in gold, im in commons 176,000 and preferreds 3500. i think we are set to get the biggest payoff ever for the biggest heist ever! my guess 25-50 range for commons. they have already priced the new commons at 25 but we are set to get damages too.
i also love the part where susman is asking for all the documentation on employees brought over a hired hands from jpm that acted as moles in the company. was it collusion on bod part to implement them to facilitate the plan for takedown? susman will certainly find out! all too coincidental i think. susman will get to the bottom of project west!
jpmc was upgraded to a buy! i guess goldman needs to get out of their positions at jpm and stick it to someone else. after susmans filings everyone should be selling jpm.
your baack!!! poop is the only thing you have to offer. what a joke. how much is jaime paying you?
poor ole jerle is losing it on the wamuq board. we dont need no stinkin examiner! we have susman. i bet you that susman will have the right stuff, meaning numbers to counter rosen's crap wednesday. susman does not take a case unless he can win it. thus the undefeated record! this is a cakewalk for susman. what better examiner to have!the attorney that wins your case and is then paid with a percentage of the winnings! i think thats incentive and a hell of a feather in the cap to protect the shareholders of an american corporation and bank, that was stolen to prop up global banks or fed reserve banks. just cause it says fed doesnt mean its "our" fed! the ties of the fed reserve must be cut! thanks for the vote by the way jhdf51. much appreciated.
SUSMAN has never lost a case! rosen not so much.
hi jt! sure you can and add if you want....even after all the use and abuse the mammoth that is wmi still stands to fight another day. any other company without the unlimited coffers of wmi could not have withstood this. that is why lehman is always told to be the biggest bank failure in american history. never wamu. because we didnt fail! and lehman is going to get another life too june 29th. it was due to liquidity and the stopping of it by jpmc that made lehman fall. and goldman just happened to know this and shorted it too? they are so clairvoyant... or sinister you take a pick. thanks for the vote of confidence. cant post on wamuq board. i got my first ban!!! i am soooo proud. just couldnt let people continue to smear a company that has and is doing the right thing. the board of directors ...not so much. susman will fix that board soon along with rosen. the voters will have a say soon. stockholder voters. we will have a voice susman will see to it! and anyone that says we are out of the money is stupid. EC's are not appointed at the end of bk but the beginning. there was never a question of equity only how much and when the fallout would happen for the ones hiding it. it coming soon real soon. thank you judge walrath for puting that noose around rosen's neck and letting him hang himself. now susman is up and will school junior (rosen)right out of the courtroom. no turning back after the 26th. all susman all the time!
absolutely! wamu and wmi have been "in the money" all along. its jpmc and the fdic that were broke! do you realize that wamu and wmi have propped up essentially 3 fed reserve banks and the fdic for 18 to 20 months plus the social security, veterans and congressional pensions held within jpmc. goldman sachs, citicorp, and jpmc all shorted the stock to make it seem the bank was failing. they made money shorting down and then on the rise of the stock in bk. fdic didnt have to put a penny in to take us down because it was preplanned that they would take holding company assets too to tide them over while fighting bk....illegal! jpmc has been using wamu trademark on the front of the stolen providian credit cards that clearly state on the back they are chase cards. again trademark infringement of the holding company. we are not out of the money. but can jpm stay out of bk after this takedown by susman on the 3rd? cant wait to see the subpeona and deposition papers fly for fdic,sec,ots and jaime dimon soon. this is far from over.
with all the BS rosen is puting out... how can a stock be "out of the money" when the bank and holding company they stole were solvent! we need a full refund for your shoddy work right now rosen. you are a crook! hope to see you in orange soon for lying to a federal judge and committing fraud in a court.