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Well, sometimes you need the train just to load up the massive number of shares in the float.
Good luck with that.
Has anyone been able to do anything with the last "dividend"?
Could be a R/M, but I'd be more inclined to think that the outstanding and authorized shares are going to grow.
You might want to take a look at note 4 starting on page 10 of the last 10-q. I think if you match the items there with other filings it'll give you a good idea of how much stock has been issued and to whom, as well as how much has been put into the float (and by whom).
I've only been watching this and don't hold any, so I haven't really dug into the details.
Of course, one of the reasons that I have taken a bit of an interest here is that you can go through updated filings to find these things out.
If you think that the cart is scary, consider the fact that they're on PSC's watchlist.
Any decision that I've ever made that was influenced by what Cramer said has been wrong. Granted, I haven't taken him seriously in years so maybe he's gotten better. Your milage may vary.
I suppose it'd be bad karma, but you could put your shares up for .005 in the event that some shyster will run it up to that to fake buyout news.I don't know how many shares they'd have to eat up to pull that scam, but nothing would surprise me anymore.
Well they didn't mention that in their PR today:
http://ih.advfn.com/p.php?pid=nmona&article=43080999&symbol=SNRS
What a shocker.
From what I've seen, the Islechem claims are that they can recover 90% or so of the hydrocarbons. A quick google search shows me one claim that about 20lbs of tires will gain 1.2 gallons of oil. Another claims that about 2lbs of plastic will get them .25 gallons.
It was all metric, so my numbers are both approximate and someone elses claims.
I guess my point is that percentages and yeilds are really just semantics. Can you turn a profit from the process?
Odds are the folks involved already have a good idea of what the answer is and either are trying to make it viable or luring investors with false claims.
Maybe the computer tapes are the secret catalyst?
I keed, I keed...
A fairly creative tactic to create bagholders, you must admit.
That would seem like an almost insanely risky way to scam people, but I wouldn't be surprised. The fact that on his form 4 concerning Williams and Associates he had the same ticker listed as Apt sattelite (ASEJF) was odd to say the least. Actually, I have my doubts that Williams and Associates even exists. If you search for them by CIK, there are no filings. If you link from JJC's list of "insider transactions" there is only his form 4.
I realize that it's carpe diem out here, but the SEC could at least meet us half way and get their own website straightened out. Maybe a note under JJC's CIK# that there have been legal proceedings? Call me crazy, but isn't that their JOB?
Never mind, apparently Cee lied. He holds none of these shares.
It's been brought to my attention that JJC is apparently guilty of fraud:
http://www.sec.gov/litigation/admin/2010/34-62173.pdf
Almost all of his filings (CIK# 0001456907) are inaccurate. Yet there they are on Edgar with no note of any action taken by the SEC. It'd be helpful if they'd mention that on Edgar, but lesson learned. I'll have to dig deeper from now on.
It might be worth a look at James Jay Cee. He has several shells and issues that he is a major holder or totally controls.
I'd suppose it's worth noting (but probably not news) that Stocker has had some legal problems with the SEC.
AS a comparison you might want to look at the recent halt of EGMI. It doesn't paint a pretty picture, and perhaps it's apples to oranges aside from the halt, but interesting none the less.
Obviously we're just a shell here. There are some odd things about it though. Odds this is about as unvisited a corner of Ihub as you can find, but hey might as well see if anyone has thoughts on this.
James Jay Cee holds 413,000,000 of APT :
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/0001027229/000145690709000048/0001456907-09-000048-index.htm
He also has 206,625,000 of Williams and Associates, whose only filing (apparently) is the form 4 :
http://www.sec.gov/Archives/edgar/data/107229/000145690709000047/xslF345X03/primary_doc.xml
Look at the ticker next to Williams. Now notice that the CIK numbers are one digit off.
The filings are three days apart.
Weird.
True with one caveat. On the 10KSB from 4/15/2005 they raised the A/S from 25,000,000 to 50,000,000.
There is a fair amount of debt here too, but nothing I see is recent enough to see if any more of that has been dealt with. All in all it's still an interesting shell.
THIS IS A NO BRAINER!!
Pardon me if I'm repeating anyone, but you gotta love the classics.
I'd say it has a better chance than most of these plays. At least they came clean and said "We have a process, but no money. Who wants to fund us?"
I still think it looks good.
No, I didn't miss that. I was surprised though. How often do you see news of the E coming at the end of a ticker result in a run?
I'm not entirely pessimistic on JBII, but the jury is still out for me. I might miss the boat, but then again I have a few rusty boats still sitting at my dock that I should have missed.
Actually yes, I do read the Ibox from time to time.
Do you think they're doing it for positive PR or because in this case even the courts couldn't shaft the stockholders?
Just my opinion, but management getting that kind of "incentive" and the shareholders receiving nothing would be criminal. If anything shareholders should get that piece of the pie.
Incentives for the management should be based solely on performance, and going into bankruptcy shows some fairly poor performance.
I've been watching it...tank.
No bounce yet, but ABWTQ seems to refuse to go below .10.
Filed PRE 14A on 5/21, 10-Q and S-3 on 5/13.
Whatever I get from that phone number is of no consequence here. It would just be another unverifiable phone call. Try again.
With all of the accusations that you've made here you have yet to provide any verifiable information to back up your claims.
Conversations and phone calls don't count. We cannot verify what was or was not said.
Show some sort of reasonable analysis with something to back up your claims. Otherwise, it's all BS.
What I would like to see (and maybe I'm missing something on the filings and other resources) is a fairly specific breakdown of revenue streams.
I'd also be curious to see what effect taking media credits off the table would have.
Specifically:
What is the P2O costing to set up?
What is the income from data recovery?
Let us see the financial statements of Javaco and Pak it as seperate entities.
Again, this information might be available and I'm just not finding it, but I won't be very tempted to jump back in here without it.
It did have a bit of that "too good to be true" ring to it. It all sounds good, but who knows? I'll probably dig in and do some more DD now that I don't have a dog in the fight.
I would suggest that maybe if you think ACLH is a scam you could point to some information to back up the claim. "I'm good at finding scams" doesn't cut it. That's not DD, that's hearsay.
Went through the first 10-15 pages and will read the rest later. I remember a friend of mine making a hasty exit when that first tanked and I rode it from 6 to about 20 last year and held through the bear raid.
I knew things weren't always on the level out here, but DNDN was so obviously and brazenly manipulated...it was ridiculous.
No, he's not. That right wing screed is exactly the kind of calculated polarization that was started by Rove and Co. Unfortunately it's begun to pass as rational debate.
JBII...wow. I was kicking myself for getting out way too early, but talk about a freefall! Anybody have a guess as to where this stops? I'm actually starting to think below 2 or back to 2009 levels if nothing gives. Apparently folks aren't too thrilled about changing accountants, the NT-10q, and the general "that last 10q...maybe not so accurate".
In other news, the sky is not falling.
Picked up more at .028. I'm thinking this will be back near .04 by the end of the day, over .03 at least. But I'm an optimist.
I'd suggest reading all of filings and then come back and tell us who owns who and in what amounts. I've been seeing repeats of this "BCLE owns ACLH" for days now, and thus far no one has been able to definitively show where this is the case. I'm fairly certain that no one can.
I realize that's what it says, but my first thought was that maybe there was a typo. Or the entire float changed hands about 30 or so times today.
So I control over half the float? Cool!