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The money is correct. They are looking to run LQMT into the ground is incorrect. They’re not. LQMT has a very good history of doing that all by themselves. They do not need Li’s help. The patents and progress of LQMT, bought them a $64 million gift to turn it around. The resources brought in by mr. Li is to help LQMT, not hurt. Otherwise we would be trading around .001 to .05.
Thus the scenario is incorrect 1000%. Any company spending money without sales will eventually fold. China has nothing to do with that. If anything can be said, they have bought LQMT more time and an opportunity all rarely get in any stock market outside of China.
Good luck to you
About that money. It belongs to a government bank. You cannot transfer $64 million out of China without the consent of the government of China. Mr. Li was granted consent. In effect the government of China through the sale of a portion of Eontec, through Li, purchased LQMT shares to access the patents for Eontec and to control LQMT. LQMT becoming profitable is important too. Li’s dissapointment to that end was reflected by a departure of an executive.
Its still up to his orphaned (excecutives) children at LQMT to turn it around. As Mr Li runs his enterprise in China. To that end LQMT is trying very hard to achieve that end too.
Good luck to all
Maybe he wanted a bigger pay raise. Maybe he was fired. Maybe he resigned. Maybe this. Maybe that. Maybe it doesn’t matter anymore. And there’s no maybe about that. Now maybe all should move on and get over it.
Not speaking for anyone else. As far as I can recall, I put my bet on ticker symbols LQMT, not PH or TS or BB or LL.
Good luck to all
.30 + late July
Do more napkin math. So with the power upgrade of 4000 amps in place. I figure, maybe they can start making money, while waiting on a contract by supercharging 8 Tesla cars simultaneously every 1/2 hour. Or any other electric car for that matter. And while the customer is waiting they can offer a coffee and share a portfolio of their products. Heck, maybe even sell them a knife, a tennis racquet, some golf clubs, a baseball bat, a few fishhooks...oh oh, I must be dreaming. My alarm clock is beeping.....beep beep beep beep.
Good luck to all
To sum it up. Is anyone here saying Mr. Li made a mistake?
Replace Hauck ! Hold on now. Just one second. Why would anyone want to replace someone they never had?
Now look here. You can put a cabbage patch doll there. The doll may not get much accomplished, but maybe over a million parents and children will be happy.
Was it political, poor performance, a warning to others, who knows.
But where is the need to replace someone that you never had. It’s not like LQMT had increased sales YOY, and they are off this year. I do not see this as having a negative impact on the stock or LQMT. Who they get to replace Paul, will have more of an impact as some have posted. PH may not have been able to seal the deal quick enough, or paid enough attention to shareholders concerns, but he did have knowledge of MIM and
amorphous metal process.
His knowledge in Amorphous Metal ran it’s course with LQMT. The world of new materials is always evolving. Take a look at super graphene, it is now considered the strongest material in the world and it is where LM was 50 years ago.
No matter who LQMT hires. I get the feeling that the success of LQMT, rests with those outside the company seeing a need for LM’s qualities, (like Apple, Swatch etc.,) rather than the present executives inside the company, trying to sell their technology.
IMHO, LQMT always lacked a solid marketing expert who could better introduce the product to new clients. You can’t replace what you never had. But, you can hire someone new who just might be able to seal the deal this year.
Good luck to all.
LQMT.30+ late July.
The negative debt that LQMT achieves each quarter far exceeds the income from sales. Even Mr. Li knows this and absorbing LQMT at this time is not a viable idea.
Thank you Joshuaeyu, for your post. It is very helpful.
With the current sales and costs to obtain those sales, it will be a long long time before Li, will decide to absorb LQMT into Eontec, unless 2 things happen:
1. LQMT sales exceed their (COGS) costs.
2. If Li, changes his mind and adds debt to Eontec.
The second event looks more probable at this moment.
Good luck
Wow! At last. I just reviewed today’s posts and boy did I find myself in an avalanche of BS stuck in a barrel of it up to my neck. A few more posts of BS filled a bucket coming my way. I did not know whether to duck or let the bucket hit me. But just at that moment I read the last three posts about long terms and their strategy to hold and sell. I realized at that point reality and sanity returned to the board. Whew! That was close.
Back to some light DD. The April, 2018 upgrades of Apple products did not include LM as promised by Asian gurus with a 85% accurate track record on Apple. I based some of my expectations of this happening in earlier posts this year.
LQMT very close to working it’s way into ConMed. Maybe by August or September or maybe sooner.
Still expect LQMT to hit .30+ very late in July.
Will sell as previous posted a percentage of LQMT, this year.
Lack of transparency of week to week progress in the form of PR, not contracts are the reason. It does take time to help a client and formulate a contract. It takes only a few minutes update shareholders. I can’t see holding or investing in a company which has shown to have very little interest in attracting new shareholders.
Investing in LQMT today would be like vacationing in a ghost town. The streets are there the hotels, the shops etc. You try to talk to the people but they ignore you, can’t here you and fade away. The only reason left to stay is curiosity. Certainty is diminishing and doubt is creeping in. The ghosts of LQMT are also talking to us, but we too, cannot hear them. 3 to 6 months sounds like a plan. after ten years in this ghost town, 3 to 6 months is a very good plan.
Good luck to all.
It’s incorrect 1000%. Back to the drawing board.
Paraclete, just this one time let’s presume the worst. Let’s say (heaven forbid you and) the idea for reels and bushings and gears and knobs and bearings and other small parts were ignored too. For two years is quite a sufficient amount of time to meet and greet and make a prototype or two.
If you have the time contact the company you had in mind and forward the LQMT contact information. Once in awhile you have to dump the water on the horse.
Good luck
The need for a marketing fIrm is not so much the advertising, as it is to develop a strategy for reaching out to clients they think they have and clients they do not have. They really are not selling a product. Although one would have thought by now that they would have learned how to spit and chew gum. Meaning its great you have clients and your making prototypes for their products. It would have been greater if LQMT made a consumer product that most consumers would want or need at an affordable price.
It seems the road they have been traveling on is a circle. Or they are riding a horse on a carousel trying to catch another ring.
I think by now LQMT should be able to have established two strategies or three to license their material. Who knows, maybe pigs can really fly. At least they use to fly at a Pink Floyd Concert.
Good luck
Watts Watt, the hook is still there, that is not what I was looking for and if you read Paraclete’s post I do not believe the fish hook was the focus. Out of respect for Paraclete’s post, the thought of posting the link with the hook also would have diverted from the importance of the post, which focused on more sophisticated engineering.
Recently in a post depicting liquid metal products from a website in China on this board also shows the fish hook you point out.
Thank you for highlighting the fish hook, another failure of LQMT.
Good luck.
The hook can be found on these two links there are more links with the fish hook as well.
https://www.liquidmetal.com/page/6/?search
https://www.liquidmetal.com/category/part-design/page/2/
The type of search performed was for any prototype old and new that Paraclete may have been referring to. It is an in-depth search for any imbedded pics or documents. I would not post a link from that type of search, only confirm the information.
I hate to guess, but I will presume PH did not get back to you. I could be wrong. So, I did a very in-depth search of the LQMT’s website looking for the product or a pick going back to 2012 regarding fishing gear of any kind and found absolutely zip, zilch nada.
So I conclude two scenarios should be followed. When anyone has an idea about the use of LQMT for products sold by other companies, such as the one you found (which makes a lot of sense), they should contact the outside company first and give them LQMT ‘s contact info.
The second scenario, (not to be argumentative), as stated earlier, would be to hire a professional marketing team and investor relations firm that could also reach out and better represent LQMT, when doing business.
This may lead to the end of LQMT ignoring and or insulting people with superb suggestions, whether they’re shareholders or not.
It is very sad for all to see, a company claiming to have a superior material, and failing to capture more than 4 or 5 clients. There are many companies that sell fishing equipment, reels etc. and there are thousands of other industrial companies that may be able to incorporate LQMT ‘s LM. All they need to do is capture 1% and year over year growth would be the future.
IMHO, marketing is holding them back, arrogance is holding them back. Not saying they’re are not trying. Just saying they need a new plan to attract the right clients.
Good luck
The burn rate tells you there is no aggressive marketing. Also, LQMT has no future events scheduled. Their own marketing strategy has been a historical failure to date. They have not hired a well known marketing and investor relations company. These are facts.
This does not mean that they themselves are not working hard to spread the word. But so far word of mouth strategy, webinars and trade shows have caused them to sell their CE LICENSE TO APPLE and their PATENTS TO MR. Li. In both events the wales they caught, captured the company and not the other way around.
Whether it be 2018, 2019, 2020 or 2025 is probably a time frame based on one’s age, patience and personal circumstances, not so much on risk tolerance or DD. If one finds themselves in the middle of this race in tenth position, coming into the final stretch, there is nothing stopping anyone from betting on three horses instead of one, for unlike a horse race or a sporting event, this bet has no definitive time frame and may never end.
2018, 2019, 2020 or later is probably based on DD and our practical curiosities of why anyone would fork over $64 million to a company with practically no income and the expectations that this horse can enter the world of Communications Equipment, especially with all of the new Apple patents. Auto, Medical, Military, Sports etc., is for now window dressing the icing without the cake. Other than those oddities above, hype from others keep many in this race.
One thing that this horse cannot be blamed for, is releasing PR of any kind.
It would be nice for all if they could catch a wale. Until then, realistically we’re guessing and expecting gold fish. After all does anyone here see LQMT promising a rose garden? They are very honest about that. No PR. No lies.
Like LL said: patience. Like reality sees for now: .255. Like the hype sees: CE and a spike.
Good luck
So, as noted in recent posts of how many may have been attracted to LQMT. May it be safely said that all believed that they were on the ground floor of something big! We thought with all of the PR at the time that government contracts would propel this B.B. stock to the moon. When that did not happen we believed the Facts and rumors surrounding the Apple story, would be the ticket. All grasped for PR. Any PR, to justify the initial decision to invest to prove the choice made to invest was the right one and anyone who disagreed was wrong.
Well, one or all might say a simple truth was overlooked. LQMT was in it’s infancy, it’s infantile stage of life. Everyone thought it was going to grow up quickly. Well it has grown, but instead of reaching the stage in life as a young adult or even a adolescent, it’s only has moved on to become a toddler today.
This is very frustrating for the (parents) shareholders of this baby. Instead of driving a real car or using a cellphone, the company is still playing with building blocks like a knife, a guitar bridge pin, a watch and other toys.
All believed and it still may happen that the new CEO, Mr. Li can and will teach LQMT, how to grow up and sit in a Tesla, while sporting an IWatch being charged by the Apple/LQMT smartphone. It is hoped that this will be the case to prove us right and everyone else wrong.
Well until then, a good thing to remember, so that no one gets too frustrated. LQMT is still a toddler and not a young adult, and the material is still in a very young delicate stage of it’s life. This reality is for a young investor or for an investor who has plenty of patience.
Other than that a buy, hold and sell strategy of a percentage might be the way to play this one smartly.
Good luck to all
Sounds like LQMT should mail a LM knife to shareholders of record July 1st, of each year beginning this year as a dividend. Or transfer a couple of million dollars from their surplus cash fund into an infomercial on tv and radio, and sell millions of the knives to raise their quarterly revenues and industry awareness at the same time.
This is just the least they can do, while waiting for the tooth fairy to bring them a respectable contract worthy of any shareholder’s time.
Good luck to all
Not even a trade war can stop LQMT from hitting.30+ late July.
You are correct on all accounts. Of all, restoring LQMT ‘s name is the most difficult. Staying away from the shareholders adds to the tarnish. Not signing companies like ConMed also hinders investors trust. Zyris is an extremely small company and it’s impact for shareholders is like a puff of smoke.
LQMT needs the bigger companies to raise their image(a no brainer). IMHO, they should focus on mid caps, large caps and mega cap companies to accomplish that goal. Otherwise the resume for jobs will be for gardeners and custodial engineers. Nothing wrong with working at a fast food establishment, but a bit depressing if it is our only choice. Hence people go to college so that they then can try to decide on their level of income.
We assumed the executives graduated college. What we took for granted was their decisions to earn for the company and us a fast food income.
I hope years of failing can help them(LQMT) try for a better paying job, so all of us (shareholders)may be proud of our decision to help them (LQMT) get an education
Good luck to all.
So I’ve been looking back at my dice roll in LQMT, the only penny stock I have. I thought it was worth a shot after seeing it on National Geographic many years ago. It was very disappointing, strike 1. I was getting ready to sell.
Then the Apple rumors spread, I add more shares and Apple hands over $20 million, and I say to myself BINGO JACKPOT BING BING BING TRIPLE 777’s. That too proved to be very disappointing. The pps drops to .06+ and I add more shares. It climbs to .12 and I add more shares and prepare to exit LQMT. Strike 2.
A few years later. All of a sudden rumors spread of a new investor willing to spend about $64 million, and once again I think this is it and I add more shares up to .38. Once again I’m thinking BINGO JACKPOT BING BING BING TRIPLE 777’s again.
Two years later, no jackpot, plenty of rumors, great DD, and a company becoming introverted still showing a lot of promise. So far I’m thinking I’m still at bat, but the count is full 3-2. Looking to hit a grand slam.
What makes this next pitch more important is that I am not as young when I first bought into LQMT and it is no longer the first inning or the third or the seventh. For me it is the bottom of the ninth, the last game of the season.
This scenario might apply to others here as well.
I’m hoping based on DD 2018 we hit that grand slam.
Good luck to all
Never stop praying. Happy for you. Watch out for those pythons now.
All of what you say is true. But when you want to enter the business world by way of selling and pitching that (supposedly) highly detailed product, you want to make sure the resume has no mistakes.
But as I stated in so many words...I don’t think anyone would care if they hit a home run and the pps were $1.00 and climbing.
Seems like LQMT just cannot get past the resume stage with many of its clients. I wonder why? Is it the spelling or the product?
Your assessment is 1000% correct. All are aware that with the advances in communications via video and the internet. A ceo can be in many places at the same time. But nothing replaces a hands on approach. Can anyone imagine the impressions they would have had if mr. Li Skyped in for his California open house? Or just sent over a pre-taped video?
Seems like mr. Li is running LQMT as if it is a successful fast food franchise company. That style of corporate management works well when you have a proven successful business formula that grows year over year. Not even with Eontec had he achieved that yet.
Rather than think he has the money, to me he is looking a bit over extended and both the lack of revenue and transparency from him is very revealing. He is not sitting on the next BIG thing. The revenues from either LQMT or Eontec are very clear to that fact.
All believed the purchase of LQMT were for the patents and the OH and equipment were to raise revenues through mr Li ‘s guidance. So far the first part of our belief has proven to be correct. The 2nd reason remains to be seen. Right now it’s not looking so good. Right now mr. Li exists in past statements and signed 10Q’s and more issued stock option statements. Everything else about mr. Li is a forward looking statement.
Good luck.
I would like to have a nickel for every typo error found on Fortune 500 company news releases posted to their websites and mailed out reports to their shareholders. We would all be millionaires annually.
I would like to have a penny for every product those Fortune 500 companies make. We would all be billionaires.
On the other hand if we apply the same logic to LQMT, we would not care how many typo errors they make, except for the fact that we would only be worth a few pennies based on the products they make. Less than the pps LQMT trades. Now that’s the real beef with the grammar. I think?
No. that math is called fear and speculation. A math used by people not basing the pps on reality. The reality is what can look fuzzy at times. LQMT has had a fuzzy look for a few years now, and can infect many shareholders to believe, that no products and no PR and no new agreements = more revenue and a higher share price. Now that’s fuzzy math and fuzzy thinking.
The only clear facts remaining is that there is still cash left over from an absentee owner and that his orphaned executives are doing the best they can with the little that they have.
Anything else seems to be a burden on the above team of execs. Like updates on prototypes and relationships with new clients or potential new clients or possibly a question from a shareholder.
In essence (LQMT ‘s Dad) mr. Li, has abandoned his U.S. children, but he is not a dead beat dad. He has left them money ($37million) for the rent, bills, shelter and food. He is going through a business midlife crisis. Is he leaving (Eontec) the wife, for his new young fling (LQMT), or will he go back home or will he become a business bigamist and stay married to both?
Good luck to all
.30+ towards the end of July.
ConMed, arms ordinance contracts + two new prototypes soon, that may lead to a contract soon. Now I know if I don’t paste a link for the last line above it leads to fuzzy math.
Lm105 has a few negatives when it comes to pace makers stents etc. read LQMT ‘s test results for more info to get a better pic for where lm105 may be a better medical product fit.
Now if they can release details on the progress with ConMed, now that would be a game changer.
New blog from LQMT. http://www.liquidmetal.com/isolite-3/
472,000 to 1.5 million shares does not a shake out make.
Ok. .41 + Apple hype and expectation hype and disappointing 10q’s= .75
The fear rage effect of U.S. tariffs on China = the current market price of Eontec divided by the current market price LQMT. 7.32 ÷ .0272= LQMT @.69 to $2.69 and Eontec @ $4.63 to $6.63 Give or take $2.00. Or reality sets in and all equities take a short term breather and head south until trade strategies conclude shortly.
The U.S. is in the driver seat on this one as Americans import $350 billion more than we export. Meaning we import about $500 billion a year from China and they import $150 billion. They have no unions, lower wages, poor working conditions and their government banks subsidized most of their global companies to compete. Only recently have they started to upgrade specific worksites.
China has the advantage to produce a lower priced product. The U.S. has the advantage in wealth. The impact of tariffs would crush China ‘s economy, increase inflation and manufacturing in the U.S. as we then would be making the same products for about the same price. Unions, wages and the impact of strikes will grow too.
The 80’s all over again.
Good luck to all
You think his plan is long term? All business plans are long term. That has nothing to do with the lack of transparency and lack of communications, lack of respect and common decency towards shareholders of the company regardless of shares owned or outstanding. Companies do not put a sign on their door shouting in bold print OUT TO LUNCH will be back in three years!
The only plan I can see from the way LQMT projects itself, is to discourage new investors, except for new insiders.
Long terms are here to either make a profit on spikes or await the day, week, month or year for 7 digit revenues.
During that wait, we theorize and hypothesize on DD and the available cash LQMT has and can borrow to remain OUT TO LUNCH.
It is not a terrible way to make money. But until LQMT can better explain it’s business strategy week to week in the form of communications and transparency, it is the only way long term shareholders should be planning their own strategy for the longer term, however long that may be.
The feelings of frustration may be from the fact that LQMT has not succeeded in landing the big contract after being here 5, 10 or 15 years. But now add to that the frustration of a company that no longer feels they have to communicate and is failing to live up to there words of blog speak and you have very hopeful but low opinion for this company. That is not a very good sign or signal for new investors. Nor is it welcomed by anyone with self respect.
The cash burn rate coupled with revenues will determine the long term goals. Although, I personally do not follow people like JB or his inside rhetoric, his short term strategy is 1000% correct, and his long term strategy is too. Buy on dips sell on spikes, take your gains and wait for the day a company hits oil on your long term investment. It is a strategy I use with ssys and kyn and a few others. It is a strategy I have not applied to LQMT, but will do this year based on LQMT’s lack of communications and lack in transparency in progress. NDA’s have nothing to do with it. Investing should be about making money now and tomorrow. Not hoping for it.
Good luck to all
Li’s silence is not about wisdom. Li’s continued silence is a very poor way of doing business and is very insulting to all shareholders. Ditto for the rest of LQMT. Regardless of any progress, all shareholders have a right to transparency. Whether its good or bad.
You cannot suggest that someone invest in LQMT, when there is zero PR. It is one thing to invest in a high risk dice roller, when you have PR. It is another thing to invest any in a company with zero PR and a pitiful 10q after pitiful 10q. They would have to be truly insane to buy now.
Now maybe that is the goal. Because it sure does not look like anything else. Unless one likes to speculate.
So no new PR, no new progress, no new clients, no new agreements, and no new revenues. That is what LQMT and mr. Li are saying by keeping silent. This is not rocket science!
Good luck to all
It’s quite obvious from reviewing the following link, these people need to hire a new marketing team or resign!
https://www.liquidmetal.com/size-limitations/
If you can’t sell lemonade in a hot desert. Either there are no clients hanging out there or you need to advertise somewhere else.
Does anyone know if LQMT is open? Haven’t heard a word from them. Hmmm?
What do you mean “Li is busy” and he has until 2020?
Who’s Li? pps trades .23 to 28 with no show Li. Pps struggles to reach .30 with progress suggested by the executive blogs. Silence from LQMT for 2 years+ running may be a Guinness Book of Record, regarding new business. Expectations are not supporting the pps, neither is Li or PR. Only hype from B.B. gurus and the Apple effect are in play and are a good reason for the above .06 pps, not to mention the $37+ million in cash.
The potential spike beginning in late July through September IMHO, keeps most here. The never ending potential supported by executive blog hype and did here keeps long term shareholders here a bit longer.
Li who?
For what it’s worth. 2017, LQMT earns $879.45 a day. The cost to LQMT to achieve that revenue was $1906.85 a day. A small contract can wipeout the deficit. The problem is not raising revenues. It’s decreasing the cost to make the money. Cost for sales went up over 200% in 2017.
Time for LQMT to trim the fat or pay for that extra bacon. Perhaps the executives should buy back shares to increase shareholders value.
8 months after the OH and rumors of Liquidmetal in Apple phones have quieted down around the web. But actual DD shows an increased interest in it’s use by Apple in the form of patents. What remains as speculation is who will be the suppliers?
LQMT in the past on at least 2 occasions posted the Apple logo on it’s web, only to remove it quickly. As far as CE goes for LQMT, they reveal that they are not in the game. But their extreme silence may mean they might be in the CE game.
A very deep search into LQMT’s website reveals a IWatch and IPhone. The images are slightly blurred, there are no images of Apple or TM’s., but they clearly appear to be Apple products. Whether the images are intentional or unintentional or to or not to provoke speculation, I cannot say. I will not post the link.
Anyone interested can contact LQMT for an explanation. I don’t like to speculate. I do find it odd, that with all of the historical and current controversy and interest in Liquidmetal/metal glass surrounding LQMT and Apple, that the pics are there in the first place.
For what it’s worth.
Good luck to all.
I posted earlier about another company using “Liquidmetal” as a trademark to sell their products. There are other companies doing the same, using “Liquidmetal” . Then I found this...
https://ia601605.us.archive.org/28/items/gov.uscourts.cacd.505221/gov.uscourts.cacd.505221.21.0.pdf
Not sure if LQMT is entitled to any compensation. But I’m sure they read this board.
LQMT should break .30+ in July.