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I implied no such thing. "Spanish Colonial Period" refers to a historical period of time in the Western Hemisphere. Not a specific shipwreck.
By what comparison to other Spanish Colonial period shipwrecks?
I seriously doubt that this company would be granted a contract in the Dominican Republic. That country has currently shut down their contracting process. As to Haiti, they have already signed the UNESCO Underwater Cultural Heritage Treaty. NO COMMERCIAL TREASURE HUNTING.
Everyone in the treasure hunting industry wants a site 4, 5, 6, but in this business this isn't like picking ripe apples in an orchard. It may come a slight bit easier when a company has established a proven track record. Might I be sensing some of you are beginning to loose faith in site #3. This appears to be a reality but is the trail being "professionally" identified and followed????
What is meant by "mother load of mag. hits"? All shipwrecks have mag. hits, not necessarily meaning treasure. Mag. hits are simply mag. hits until identified.
Precisely. I had posted previously before I read yours. One factor that must be considered when mentioning break away stern castles. What's in them doesn't stay contained necessarily. Breaking away and floating away, they dribble out their content. As they do, they get lighter and go further. This effects the value expectations.
Removing overburden is usually the name of the game. As you seem to know, enlighten us all - what important wreck material is being found?
Reasonable point.
I know nothing about this and have no comment one way or the other.
When Mel Fisher said "todays the day" he was a very well established treasure hunter - from the gold coast 1715 wrecks on down to many of the 1733 fleet shipwrecks in the Florida Keys. As far as vision and actual performance, in my opinion, there is no comparison between Fisher and SFRX. Allot of talk (on this board) but no results in over five years. Nothing wrong with dreaming and wanting but there comes a time that the people investing want results "The Treasure". Al this hype and cheerleading for the company on this board is what it is. There is a very real wreck out there "somewhere" and the trail is a flat out reality. So now allow SFRX to prove themselves and find the actual wreck and the rewards will certainly follow.
Not exactly. These were established and proven companies (or individuals) well before they hit the main stage of success. Thats not the case with SFRX. In over five years they have yet to prove themselves. The validity of the site #3 trail allows that opportunity. Thats my opinion.
I believe your statements regarding the Juno wreck are rather misleading. Of course there's ballast there. There always was. Broken pottery shards. There always was. The silver coins found I question. My understanding is that they were found on the beach not on the wreck. Same story was told by Robert Marx and David Foster when they worked the wreck years ago. Furthermore, ferro-magnetic anomalies on a wreck and in its outer perimeters (and further) are commonplace. Just part of the game. This wreck has always been a looser and, in my opinion, always will be. The site #3 trail I believe is a different story.
Wood alone is not good. Wood small and large floats and sometimes very far. Ballast stones are another story.
As for me, I don't care how "decent" a headline is, if there's a Goldberg association, its tainted. Unless this character has successfully completed some creditable liars rehabilitation program, its the same old game.
Just what you have said. That's what I meant by establishing the corridor by connecting the dots. Ballast means lower hull association and not just a floating piece of break-away decking or side. If in fact this information is factual, I would think that SFRX would take advantage of this and make the utmost effort to start there. That's my opinion anyway.
Exactly what you're saying and I've been saying. Follow the trail applying altimeter "off-bottom" Cesium magnetometer sensor control and also on bottom/boat towed sled mounted large coil ferrous/non-ferrous metal detection system. Connect the dots and with precision survey control, grid out the corridor and survey section by section. But then, I recall both of us covering this similarly in previous posts.
CEO or not. If Goldberg has anything at all to do with this, its a scam. Furthermore, any entity that would even associate with him in a business venture has either not done their due diligence or thus fall suspect to being part of the probable scam. I am one of the few persons posting here that has met Goldberg and know for a fact he's a crook and a liar. Very provable.
Please read my post again. I didn't say "write a book to be an expert". In this field many books are written about "the expert". I asked the question as to what books have been written about them or included them with notable credits? Not what they write about themselves; curriculum vitae's, websites, etc. Anyway, the experts haven't seem to have much influence in bringing this company to the finding of any treasure in over five years. They are not survey experts which is very much needed at present in my opinion. Follow the trail. I know Sinclair and respect him.
#84. Scaglione is "prison free" unless he's back in for some reason and I hadn't heard about it.
Regarding these credible experts, can you please make reference to actual books written about THEM rather than resumes and elaborate websites designed or written by themselves. Not particularly referring to Sinclair. Thank you.
I would say "fast and furious" is a poor choice of words. The real "fast and furious" wound up a real fiasco.
As I've stated before, IN MY OWN OPINION, Site #3 is a large piece of flotsam and not an actual wreck site YET. Follow the trail, follow the trail.
This board is beginning to remind me of the B.B. King song "The Thrill Is Gone". My question remains, as many stated here, this is not a trail. We're on the wreck. If that's so where is the good stuff one finds on a wreck; like treasure, artifacts and those kind of common things? There is nothing wrong with the validity of a trail either. One just has to follow it professionally to get to the source, and I believe that's what SFRX is in the process of doing right now.
Not exactly true. I had input (intelligence) yesterday that SFRX is currently digging on magnetometer anomalies in the area of site #3 - large pieces of wood with iron fittings here and there attached No ballast (yet). So is this in fact actually true. How would I know?
A cockcoach has no conscience. He just eats and contaminates.
Nothing here has any real substance with no impressiveness anymore. I'm off of this. My personal opinion of course.
My understanding is last week was good sea conditions too. So what happened? Any treasure or anything?
Is that a comfortable assumption with the State of Florida when it relates to a company that has been in the business for over five years and has yet to find anything? As Mel Fisher use to say "todays the day", hopefully next weeks the week for SFRX. Something positive should be happening.
I want to tak all of you for being diligent and honest in continuously - day by day - exposing this on going scam. Why in all these years the SEC hasn't moved in and shut down this scam is extremely disappointing. So, in my opinion, it reflects the state of ethics our country is in. Apparently the new CEO you refer to as "Rose" has sufficient influence with this government -= the judicial system - where as nothing has ever happened in the D.R. court in Puerta Plata. As a matter of fact the attorney representing , my case - the divers case has proved no better. The vessel Hispaniola is a dead issue. Serious condition below the water line (surprised not on the bottom of the marina a long time ago, No legal papers, no inspections, which now can never happen, The Ocean Marina dockage bill now in the area of $250,000. US. This is a bad, now dead situation and all of us have lost, thanks to this upstanding "insect" M. Goldberg. Parasites that try to flees the naive investment community for the sake of a buck are no better than these scum bags are. Me. my opinion.
So what's the big deal. Magnetometer anomalies are just that - anomalies until such time the divers identify what they are. They're ferro-magnetic so you know they're not treasure but have a probable association to the shipwreck. So SFRX goes back, surveys the area in question and identifies the anomalies. As I have stated before, other competent entities did mag. surveys and thoroughly dove the entire Juno Beach wreck area over the last two decades. The magnetometer technology is better now and that could make the difference. Why all of a sudden this repeat infatuation with Juno I don't quite understand. I was of the opinion that based on numerous continued postings here, site #3 was a slam-dunk treasure on deck any day now. Anyway, isn't that the priority focus?
They need a multi-million gallon tank farm to recycle Goldberg's years of on going fraudulent bullshit.
jrf30: You make the statement "ARE on the wreck already - NOT on a trail. To say that makes it appear you know something others don't know. Otherwise, its rather misleading. So if SFRX is ON the wreck already, where's the ballast, where's the evidence of broken or intact olive jars, many, many artifacts, coins and bullion all over the place, many more cannons, etc, etc?? We all are entitled to render our comments and opinions. Mine based on a we bit of experience says, based on disclosed evidence of what has been found before, this is a piece of flotsam which eventually settled to the bottom having carried a cannon and some trapped artifacts. THAT'S JUST MY OPINION. Hope I'm proven wrong and they solve this mystery. For me, I bet on the trail theory at present.
capted. Visit the Seafarer website and you will see three listings. The Cape Canaveral site (Site #3), the Juno Site, and the Lantana Site. Its my understanding that it was the Lantana Site that produced the nuts and bolts cargo. There are others posting here that I'm sure can clarify this.
I don't believe capted made that statement. Please provide that particular post number if convenient. Juno Beach is one wreck site as I have always understood it. Numerous groups have surveyed and worked on this site in the past and it always proved a looser.
Its spelled Concepcion. Not Conception. Value of about a billion dollars. Really? By verifiable marketing, and audited book keeping, there is no treasure wreck that has ever been found including the 1622 "N.S. Atocha" or the "S.S. Central America" (richest gold find ever made to date) that has resulted in anything near a billion. Good number for story telling though. Of course that's just my own opinion, isn't it.
"There is no more following a trail" Really? So are you saying all the most very common things on a main wreck site like hundreds/thousands of ballast rocks, intact (and mostly broken Spanish olive jars), other ceramics, coins and artifacts all over the place, these things are already being encountered under and around this eighteen foot piece of wood. Is that what you're implying? Hope you are right but doesn't sound like it to me. Actually none of these comments matter when the hard work being devoted to this current location will prove it out one way or the other.
What - no treasure? Just blow a hole down through the 18ft. length timber and into the treasure vault and WOW here it is. Most of the posts I read here are like "chickens in the hen house" Get real. Now (and before) you have to work backwards. Follow the trail. This is not the actual wreck site. FOLLOW THE TRAIL. Who am I? Its my own my own personal opinion. Good luck - how many times have I wished that?
Besides financial donation would you please allow me and others to understand what SFRX has contributed to the marine sciences over the past five years?
Credit where credit is due which goes to SFRX for its ability to get Florida State permits but after over five years of treasure hunting, isn't it time to see some treasure brought up on deck? Of course, that's my opinion but believe shared by others.
capted: I don't believe Juno is the "nut and bolt" site. I believe that was a site #2, wasn't it? Regardless, I agree with what I think you're saying. In my own opinion, the Juno wreck is a waste of time. I know of (as I posted before a number of times) a number of creditable people who spent aloof time not only electronically surveying (mags., detectors, etc.) but also worked over and around the ballast without results.To me site #3 is the real deal. Again, just my own opinion, they just aren't on the wreck yet. No ballast, no olive jars, or shards, etc., etc., etc.
Good forecast. Let me say that with those conditions, Mel Fisher wouldn't have missed a day putting the blowers down and diving. So good luck SFRX.