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Well said and clearly stated.
LQMT has yet to hire from a Fortune 500 company a well polished sales marketing team with metallurgy experience to attract, market and sell the superior LQMT brand.
No. They are looking for another more or less PH type. Meaning; knowledge of metallurgy and hyped up window dressing sales history.
It does not take a brain surgeon to figure out why the pps dropped over 20%. It is not so much from the loss of the knowledge in PH. It is the manner in which IMHO, LQMT is viewing themselves and telegraphing to the world that LQMT is not ready to make the leap into contracts and sales.
Not due to a lack of confidence. They apparently are still trying to sort it all out. What is not sorted out is why anyone with Li ‘s capability and proven history is not more psssd off than the posters here. Not at his employees. But at not making decisions to employ a few more people to help out LQMT.
He could even temporarily transfer some of Eontec’s personnel to make it work.
Good luck to all
.30+ by late July, just might not happen.
I hope Bruce B., can announce the ConMed
Contract soon. That would add value.
If? They can do it there, then they can do it here. http://www.e-ande.com/business.php?id=15
Poor planning at the top has led to delays in auto and med contracts. All of the long terms are well aware of this many times over.
Hence we have speculation and the fact that many still fail to realize the reason for LQMT still being a penny stock. Thus there will always be a clash of opinions.
But in every opinion expressed on this board, I believe all want to see LQMT succeed.
As a long term shareholder the 5, 6, or 10 year or more wait wears itself out and the understandable welcome is or has or will become over extended.
Look at the web page posted above. What reason is holding us back? Why move from one location to another?
Why was power not considered? Who screwed up? The buck stops with Li! And that buck did not come out of his pockets. The buck has and is coming out of the pockets of yours and mine PERIOD!
The lovely blog words intelligently written offers excuses not solutions. They offer delays. They offer reality. Are they working to make a sale? Yes. Have they? Not yet and it goes on and on. They can color the finished product. Great! But who are they coloring for or do they have someone specific? Now if they were a bit more transparent with the shareholders, perhaps the long terms would not be thinking of EXITING STAGE DOOR LEFT this year.
All of these are my opinions. There always worth less than the pps.
Good luck to all
.30+ late July.
From reviewing the rumor mill websites, I have noticed less iPhone BMG rumors than in the past. Have you?
It’s been in the works for several months and was posted a couple of months ago. Its not new. Just now acknowledged on their website.
Gamesc, seems like the uploads page will no longer be available to interested people like ourselves. What a shame. Check it out. Or maybe it’s just me.
It seems like every year the shareholders are invited to a seasonal party. From the open house to the Christmas, New Years blog introduction to the spring time, blog updates to now the once again summer time, we have interested clients.
It seems LQMT invites the shareholders to the BBQ, but can never light the coals or gas jets. Heck they can’t even find the power either, to fire up the electric grill.
This has been going on for sometime. You can’t blame Bruce or Bryce. What kind of company moves from one house to another without checking to see if they have enough electricity to turn on the lights?
Better yet who will invest in that company or trust ?
All of these things fall on Mr. Li. This is his BBQ. Not anyone before him is responsible for his failure to fire up the grills.
I think some people believe that he took our food and is having a BBQ in China with it. It seems.
So far the daily volume tells us there is no BBQ yet.
https://www.liquidmetal.com/formed-mirrors/
This might have been resolved before Li.
No one speculates better than LQMT. Billion$
https://www.liquidmetal.com/my-product/pressure-sensor/#comments
Oct. 2017
Just so that all know. LQMT already has the coloring capabilities.
Page 6 NDA
http://www.conmed.com/-/media/CONMED/Documents/Other/Supplier-Guidebook.ashx
Cannot tell if LQMT is any closer. But from their paraphrases they have not indicated that ConMed has lost interest. The last time ConMed made a public disclosure on IP involving a license on extending the life of some of their products was back in 2014.
We should know this year if LQMT sealed a deal. They may very well have already, but that would be a guess not a fact.
If Apple granted a limited waiver, which also would be speculative, then LQMT can do CE with Apple. They may also have agreed to a NDA, also speculative.
Other than the above, LQMT sold their CE license.
LQMT has a history of spiking on CE speculation.
Happy 4th
I would love to see LQMT, Liquidmetal parts in electric or manual can openers since the materials are less prone to corrosion. Today’s materials (blades) pose a health risk. Either secure a client who sells these products or have one manufacturer make them with your own name brand. While you’re at it throw in a blender and food processor and a juicer. Millions of consumers are waiting and waiting and waiting and....
And so are the shareholders.
Every share sold in the world of B.B. STOCKS & MM’s does not get bought by a willing buyer. Many times it gets bought by an obligated MM, holding the shares. Not taking sides as to which (casinos) markets are run more fairly. Its just that the B.B. casino is less regulated and avoided due to other regulations.
The MM’s must buy shares when no willing buyer will. It is believed by many that they manipulate and control the pps of B.B. stocks.
I have very little opinion on this either way. Just one more reason I avoided B.B. stocks.
The last word “REVENUES”, is the key. Not profitability. Regardless of profit at this early stage of trying to make sales. Revenue will initially drive the pps up. Profitability will hold it there for possible growth. Revenues are not based on speculation or hype or chatter. But on sales and anticipated payments.
Right now LQMT is not there yet.
But I do understand your message and your timeframe.
Brilliant!!!
My brain is hurting from all of this CE talk. It’s simple. There will be no money, no CE for LQMT. Zero, zip, zilch, nada, nothing, goose eggs without a waiver from Apple, Period! Or better yet let an amorphous metal manufacturer get a contract first and then debate it.
All this talk here is reminding me of the people running LQMT.
The bottom line, if LQMT can get a contract worthy of a few million by selling pet amorphous metal rocks, and a few million with medical parts the stock would pop and all would be happy.
And if Apple announced their next phone is made with LM, the stock would pop too, even though LQMT is not the manufacturer.
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August 2018!
The money is correct. They are looking to run LQMT into the ground is incorrect. They’re not. LQMT has a very good history of doing that all by themselves. They do not need Li’s help. The patents and progress of LQMT, bought them a $64 million gift to turn it around. The resources brought in by mr. Li is to help LQMT, not hurt. Otherwise we would be trading around .001 to .05.
Thus the scenario is incorrect 1000%. Any company spending money without sales will eventually fold. China has nothing to do with that. If anything can be said, they have bought LQMT more time and an opportunity all rarely get in any stock market outside of China.
Good luck to you
About that money. It belongs to a government bank. You cannot transfer $64 million out of China without the consent of the government of China. Mr. Li was granted consent. In effect the government of China through the sale of a portion of Eontec, through Li, purchased LQMT shares to access the patents for Eontec and to control LQMT. LQMT becoming profitable is important too. Li’s dissapointment to that end was reflected by a departure of an executive.
Its still up to his orphaned (excecutives) children at LQMT to turn it around. As Mr Li runs his enterprise in China. To that end LQMT is trying very hard to achieve that end too.
Good luck to all
Maybe he wanted a bigger pay raise. Maybe he was fired. Maybe he resigned. Maybe this. Maybe that. Maybe it doesn’t matter anymore. And there’s no maybe about that. Now maybe all should move on and get over it.
Not speaking for anyone else. As far as I can recall, I put my bet on ticker symbols LQMT, not PH or TS or BB or LL.
Good luck to all
.30 + late July
Do more napkin math. So with the power upgrade of 4000 amps in place. I figure, maybe they can start making money, while waiting on a contract by supercharging 8 Tesla cars simultaneously every 1/2 hour. Or any other electric car for that matter. And while the customer is waiting they can offer a coffee and share a portfolio of their products. Heck, maybe even sell them a knife, a tennis racquet, some golf clubs, a baseball bat, a few fishhooks...oh oh, I must be dreaming. My alarm clock is beeping.....beep beep beep beep.
Good luck to all
To sum it up. Is anyone here saying Mr. Li made a mistake?
Replace Hauck ! Hold on now. Just one second. Why would anyone want to replace someone they never had?
Now look here. You can put a cabbage patch doll there. The doll may not get much accomplished, but maybe over a million parents and children will be happy.
Was it political, poor performance, a warning to others, who knows.
But where is the need to replace someone that you never had. It’s not like LQMT had increased sales YOY, and they are off this year. I do not see this as having a negative impact on the stock or LQMT. Who they get to replace Paul, will have more of an impact as some have posted. PH may not have been able to seal the deal quick enough, or paid enough attention to shareholders concerns, but he did have knowledge of MIM and
amorphous metal process.
His knowledge in Amorphous Metal ran it’s course with LQMT. The world of new materials is always evolving. Take a look at super graphene, it is now considered the strongest material in the world and it is where LM was 50 years ago.
No matter who LQMT hires. I get the feeling that the success of LQMT, rests with those outside the company seeing a need for LM’s qualities, (like Apple, Swatch etc.,) rather than the present executives inside the company, trying to sell their technology.
IMHO, LQMT always lacked a solid marketing expert who could better introduce the product to new clients. You can’t replace what you never had. But, you can hire someone new who just might be able to seal the deal this year.
Good luck to all.
LQMT.30+ late July.
The negative debt that LQMT achieves each quarter far exceeds the income from sales. Even Mr. Li knows this and absorbing LQMT at this time is not a viable idea.
Thank you Joshuaeyu, for your post. It is very helpful.
With the current sales and costs to obtain those sales, it will be a long long time before Li, will decide to absorb LQMT into Eontec, unless 2 things happen:
1. LQMT sales exceed their (COGS) costs.
2. If Li, changes his mind and adds debt to Eontec.
The second event looks more probable at this moment.
Good luck
Wow! At last. I just reviewed today’s posts and boy did I find myself in an avalanche of BS stuck in a barrel of it up to my neck. A few more posts of BS filled a bucket coming my way. I did not know whether to duck or let the bucket hit me. But just at that moment I read the last three posts about long terms and their strategy to hold and sell. I realized at that point reality and sanity returned to the board. Whew! That was close.
Back to some light DD. The April, 2018 upgrades of Apple products did not include LM as promised by Asian gurus with a 85% accurate track record on Apple. I based some of my expectations of this happening in earlier posts this year.
LQMT very close to working it’s way into ConMed. Maybe by August or September or maybe sooner.
Still expect LQMT to hit .30+ very late in July.
Will sell as previous posted a percentage of LQMT, this year.
Lack of transparency of week to week progress in the form of PR, not contracts are the reason. It does take time to help a client and formulate a contract. It takes only a few minutes update shareholders. I can’t see holding or investing in a company which has shown to have very little interest in attracting new shareholders.
Investing in LQMT today would be like vacationing in a ghost town. The streets are there the hotels, the shops etc. You try to talk to the people but they ignore you, can’t here you and fade away. The only reason left to stay is curiosity. Certainty is diminishing and doubt is creeping in. The ghosts of LQMT are also talking to us, but we too, cannot hear them. 3 to 6 months sounds like a plan. after ten years in this ghost town, 3 to 6 months is a very good plan.
Good luck to all.
It’s incorrect 1000%. Back to the drawing board.
Paraclete, just this one time let’s presume the worst. Let’s say (heaven forbid you and) the idea for reels and bushings and gears and knobs and bearings and other small parts were ignored too. For two years is quite a sufficient amount of time to meet and greet and make a prototype or two.
If you have the time contact the company you had in mind and forward the LQMT contact information. Once in awhile you have to dump the water on the horse.
Good luck
The need for a marketing fIrm is not so much the advertising, as it is to develop a strategy for reaching out to clients they think they have and clients they do not have. They really are not selling a product. Although one would have thought by now that they would have learned how to spit and chew gum. Meaning its great you have clients and your making prototypes for their products. It would have been greater if LQMT made a consumer product that most consumers would want or need at an affordable price.
It seems the road they have been traveling on is a circle. Or they are riding a horse on a carousel trying to catch another ring.
I think by now LQMT should be able to have established two strategies or three to license their material. Who knows, maybe pigs can really fly. At least they use to fly at a Pink Floyd Concert.
Good luck
Watts Watt, the hook is still there, that is not what I was looking for and if you read Paraclete’s post I do not believe the fish hook was the focus. Out of respect for Paraclete’s post, the thought of posting the link with the hook also would have diverted from the importance of the post, which focused on more sophisticated engineering.
Recently in a post depicting liquid metal products from a website in China on this board also shows the fish hook you point out.
Thank you for highlighting the fish hook, another failure of LQMT.
Good luck.
The hook can be found on these two links there are more links with the fish hook as well.
https://www.liquidmetal.com/page/6/?search
https://www.liquidmetal.com/category/part-design/page/2/
The type of search performed was for any prototype old and new that Paraclete may have been referring to. It is an in-depth search for any imbedded pics or documents. I would not post a link from that type of search, only confirm the information.
I hate to guess, but I will presume PH did not get back to you. I could be wrong. So, I did a very in-depth search of the LQMT’s website looking for the product or a pick going back to 2012 regarding fishing gear of any kind and found absolutely zip, zilch nada.
So I conclude two scenarios should be followed. When anyone has an idea about the use of LQMT for products sold by other companies, such as the one you found (which makes a lot of sense), they should contact the outside company first and give them LQMT ‘s contact info.
The second scenario, (not to be argumentative), as stated earlier, would be to hire a professional marketing team and investor relations firm that could also reach out and better represent LQMT, when doing business.
This may lead to the end of LQMT ignoring and or insulting people with superb suggestions, whether they’re shareholders or not.
It is very sad for all to see, a company claiming to have a superior material, and failing to capture more than 4 or 5 clients. There are many companies that sell fishing equipment, reels etc. and there are thousands of other industrial companies that may be able to incorporate LQMT ‘s LM. All they need to do is capture 1% and year over year growth would be the future.
IMHO, marketing is holding them back, arrogance is holding them back. Not saying they’re are not trying. Just saying they need a new plan to attract the right clients.
Good luck
The burn rate tells you there is no aggressive marketing. Also, LQMT has no future events scheduled. Their own marketing strategy has been a historical failure to date. They have not hired a well known marketing and investor relations company. These are facts.
This does not mean that they themselves are not working hard to spread the word. But so far word of mouth strategy, webinars and trade shows have caused them to sell their CE LICENSE TO APPLE and their PATENTS TO MR. Li. In both events the wales they caught, captured the company and not the other way around.
Whether it be 2018, 2019, 2020 or 2025 is probably a time frame based on one’s age, patience and personal circumstances, not so much on risk tolerance or DD. If one finds themselves in the middle of this race in tenth position, coming into the final stretch, there is nothing stopping anyone from betting on three horses instead of one, for unlike a horse race or a sporting event, this bet has no definitive time frame and may never end.
2018, 2019, 2020 or later is probably based on DD and our practical curiosities of why anyone would fork over $64 million to a company with practically no income and the expectations that this horse can enter the world of Communications Equipment, especially with all of the new Apple patents. Auto, Medical, Military, Sports etc., is for now window dressing the icing without the cake. Other than those oddities above, hype from others keep many in this race.
One thing that this horse cannot be blamed for, is releasing PR of any kind.
It would be nice for all if they could catch a wale. Until then, realistically we’re guessing and expecting gold fish. After all does anyone here see LQMT promising a rose garden? They are very honest about that. No PR. No lies.
Like LL said: patience. Like reality sees for now: .255. Like the hype sees: CE and a spike.
Good luck
So, as noted in recent posts of how many may have been attracted to LQMT. May it be safely said that all believed that they were on the ground floor of something big! We thought with all of the PR at the time that government contracts would propel this B.B. stock to the moon. When that did not happen we believed the Facts and rumors surrounding the Apple story, would be the ticket. All grasped for PR. Any PR, to justify the initial decision to invest to prove the choice made to invest was the right one and anyone who disagreed was wrong.
Well, one or all might say a simple truth was overlooked. LQMT was in it’s infancy, it’s infantile stage of life. Everyone thought it was going to grow up quickly. Well it has grown, but instead of reaching the stage in life as a young adult or even a adolescent, it’s only has moved on to become a toddler today.
This is very frustrating for the (parents) shareholders of this baby. Instead of driving a real car or using a cellphone, the company is still playing with building blocks like a knife, a guitar bridge pin, a watch and other toys.
All believed and it still may happen that the new CEO, Mr. Li can and will teach LQMT, how to grow up and sit in a Tesla, while sporting an IWatch being charged by the Apple/LQMT smartphone. It is hoped that this will be the case to prove us right and everyone else wrong.
Well until then, a good thing to remember, so that no one gets too frustrated. LQMT is still a toddler and not a young adult, and the material is still in a very young delicate stage of it’s life. This reality is for a young investor or for an investor who has plenty of patience.
Other than that a buy, hold and sell strategy of a percentage might be the way to play this one smartly.
Good luck to all
Sounds like LQMT should mail a LM knife to shareholders of record July 1st, of each year beginning this year as a dividend. Or transfer a couple of million dollars from their surplus cash fund into an infomercial on tv and radio, and sell millions of the knives to raise their quarterly revenues and industry awareness at the same time.
This is just the least they can do, while waiting for the tooth fairy to bring them a respectable contract worthy of any shareholder’s time.
Good luck to all
Not even a trade war can stop LQMT from hitting.30+ late July.
You are correct on all accounts. Of all, restoring LQMT ‘s name is the most difficult. Staying away from the shareholders adds to the tarnish. Not signing companies like ConMed also hinders investors trust. Zyris is an extremely small company and it’s impact for shareholders is like a puff of smoke.
LQMT needs the bigger companies to raise their image(a no brainer). IMHO, they should focus on mid caps, large caps and mega cap companies to accomplish that goal. Otherwise the resume for jobs will be for gardeners and custodial engineers. Nothing wrong with working at a fast food establishment, but a bit depressing if it is our only choice. Hence people go to college so that they then can try to decide on their level of income.
We assumed the executives graduated college. What we took for granted was their decisions to earn for the company and us a fast food income.
I hope years of failing can help them(LQMT) try for a better paying job, so all of us (shareholders)may be proud of our decision to help them (LQMT) get an education
Good luck to all.
So I’ve been looking back at my dice roll in LQMT, the only penny stock I have. I thought it was worth a shot after seeing it on National Geographic many years ago. It was very disappointing, strike 1. I was getting ready to sell.
Then the Apple rumors spread, I add more shares and Apple hands over $20 million, and I say to myself BINGO JACKPOT BING BING BING TRIPLE 777’s. That too proved to be very disappointing. The pps drops to .06+ and I add more shares. It climbs to .12 and I add more shares and prepare to exit LQMT. Strike 2.
A few years later. All of a sudden rumors spread of a new investor willing to spend about $64 million, and once again I think this is it and I add more shares up to .38. Once again I’m thinking BINGO JACKPOT BING BING BING TRIPLE 777’s again.
Two years later, no jackpot, plenty of rumors, great DD, and a company becoming introverted still showing a lot of promise. So far I’m thinking I’m still at bat, but the count is full 3-2. Looking to hit a grand slam.
What makes this next pitch more important is that I am not as young when I first bought into LQMT and it is no longer the first inning or the third or the seventh. For me it is the bottom of the ninth, the last game of the season.
This scenario might apply to others here as well.
I’m hoping based on DD 2018 we hit that grand slam.
Good luck to all
Never stop praying. Happy for you. Watch out for those pythons now.